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At Daddy's we specialize in exhaust solutions for your Scoobie. Every exhaust we sell has at one point been installed on yours truley's WRX specifically so that we can provide the best suggestions possible based on real world comparitive driving. We pride ourselves on mating people up to an exhaust solution that fits the need, not what just happens to be in stock on a particular day of the week.

No cat, single hi-flow, dual hi-flow, 3", 2.5", Hybrid 3"/2.5", ceramic coated, ect. The best part about shopping for an exhaust setup at Daddy's is the unique configs we can put together for you with the carefully selected brand selection we carry augmented by our own very popular MadDad(TM) series. This allows us to selectively piece together an exhaust that is exactly what you are looking for rather than a close approximation. OK, enough rambling.

For a full category break down of all the exhaust components we carry along with full photos's please check out our online catalog at www.daddysscp.com (http://www.daddysscp.com/dcart4/home.php)
Don't forget to use your Coupon Code when shopping.

MadDad(TM): All MadDad(TM) Exhaust Products carry a 2 year warranty and a 14 Day Money Back Guarantee(less freight) even after you've installed them on your car.

We've just introducted our new V2 series MadDad(TM) Metal Downpipe. This is a very slick update to our extremely well received Metal Series downpipe. We've re-engineered the wastegate so that it merges back in after the hi-flow metal substrate cat, allowing even better throttle response and faster boost control response. Previous versoins of this downpipe were tested in CA. and it was capable of passing a smog test as the only cat in the system. This is also a NO CEL downpipe solution. No fixes, electrical or mechanical are required. Flexible two-piece setup allows easy swapping of the factory 3rd cat pipe when/if needed. This is the only downpipe that has the catless 2ndary section housed in an oem type heatshield. Nuff said.

http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/metalv2a_400.jpg
Note:this was a photo of a pre-production V2. Production units have the cat sitting lower with a longer wastegate tube to support the lower positioning.

MadDad(TM) Metal V2 Downpipe $579.95 (price reflects the full two-piece setup)

MadDad Metal 3CE $209 - Our 3rd cat eliminator(seen as part of the Metal DP above) is a 3" 3CE compatible with the factory downpipe, or a great mate to a Stromung or other shorty downpipes. The only 3CE available with an OEM type heatshield. Available with factory style donut gasket mating flange, or in a stardard 3" crush gasket flange.

MadDad(TM) Halfback Intermediate Pipe - This is quite frankly the best and most unique intermediate available. It's a product I designed for my own need, seeking a 3" exhaust system that could utilize any of the 2.5" bolt-on exhausts, like Prodrive, ScoobySport, Stromung and others, including the factory axleback. This pipe is 3" at the downpipe end but does a smooth taper just before the end where we put a 2.5" flange for universal axleback support. It's the perfect mate to a 3" downpipe(non donut gasket variety). The pipe also sports the smoothest flowing 3" flex joint you'll ever see. It doesn't look like anything special on the outside, but the inner wall uses a special liner that keeps it smooth. Most 3" flex joints are very turbulent. Not this one. Gaskets and bolt set included. $249.
http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/Halfback_320.jpg

MadDad(TM) Velocity Headers / Uppipe combo - Our new MadDad(TM) Velocity Headers are produced from the same manufacture that makes Japan's TOMEI headers. Full T304SS incorporating lost Wax formed stainless steel flanges, performance tuned 4 into 1 design with one piece collector that eliminates undue extra welds, an engineered matching uppipe that supports higher flow along with an integrated Velocity stack to maintain low-end torque, amazing TIG welds, optional dual layer ceramic coatings(specific coatings for the inside and outside) and slip jointed TIG welded runners to relieve stress.....this is one sick header. Includes full gasket set.
Nothing like a ceramic coated header:
http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/coated_400.jpg
Those flanges are a thing of beauty
http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/newmaddad.jpg
Amazing TIG welds
http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/header_tigs.jpg

MadDad(TM) Velocity Headers / Uppipe $599 / $829 with dual layer ceramic coating
NOTE: We still have these listed on our website for the pre-order $449 price with free freight(US excluding Alaska and Hawaii). You still have until Monday the 7th to order at this price before we switch it to the standard price listed here. The fivep Coupon Code is not valid with this $449 offer. If entered, it will work, but we will remove it before you are charged.

MadDad(TM) Power Combo - Get our MadDad(TM) Velocity Header / Uppipe and MadDad(TM) Metal V2 downpipe for just $1049.

MadDad(TM) Turbo Heatshield with venting stack - Our full stainless steel turbo heat shields fit all 02-05 WRX models fitted with the factory intercooler. Allows heat to be pushed down and away from the engine when cruising and allows venting of heat from the passenger side of the hood scoop when in traffic. $124.95

MadDad(TM) 3" Borla Adapters - Replaces the mating flange adapter included with Borla Hush and STi exhauts allowing them to be non tapered 3" systems for mating to downpipes like the Helix and others that need to mate to a 3" crush gasket type flange. Kit includes adapter, 3" gasket, and bolt set. $49.95 - only $29.95 when purchased with your Hush or STi exhaust from Dadddy's.

T304SS Flex Uppipe - This is the highest quality flex upppe you will find. Very clean cut 1/2" ss flanges. Quality TIG welds and a great price. $159. Gaskets and studs required.
http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/flexup_400.jpg

Stromung:

We are a Stromung distributor carrying their full WRX/STi line and many of their RS offerings as well.
Dual Tip Catbacks:

Stromung 3" (full 3" no taper, great for mating to a Helix or similiar downpipe) $639
Stromung 2.5"$569
Dual Tip Axleback $439
Take $20 off for single tip on catback or axleback setups.

Stromung hi-flow metal substrate 2ndary cat pipe(3rd cat WRX/2nd cat STi) $339
Stromung Divorsed Wastegate downpipe $194.95 / $264.95 with Ceramic Coating
http://www.daddysscp.com/plugins/MivaMerchants/graphics/00000001/stromung_dp_ceramic_lg.jpg


Bosal:we are one of the largest Subaru specific Bosal distributors on the east coast

NEW - Bosal STi replica Uppipe $199 - this is nuts. This full T304SS catless uppipe has a full factory style molded heatshield making it look totally stock. Combine that with a full metal gasket set and pre-installed studs and this has to be one of the best deals going.
http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/bosal_uppip_400.jpg

NEW - Bosal 3rd cat eliminator[b]. This is a standard 2.5" catless replacedment for the factory 3rd cat(2nd STi). No frills, just a great deal at $139
http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/bosal_3ce_400.jpg

[b]Bosal Dual Tip Catback Exhauts $399(free deliverey in US excluding Alaska and Hawaii). Price valid on current inventory only. Bosal prices are going up on the next shipments.
http://www.daddysscp.com/plugins/MivaMerchants/graphics/00000001/bosal_dt_med.jpg
Bosal Single Tip Catback: on b/o and has been for a while. Will update with an ETA as it gets closer. New price will be announced when they are back in stock

Bosal Divorced Wastegate Downpipe - tried and true for the past 2 years, $229


Borla: We are a Borla Distributor

New MadDad(TM) 3" Borla Adapters - Replaces the mating flange adapter included with Borla Hush and STi exhauts allowing them to be non tapered 3" systems for mating to downpipes like the Helix and others that need to mate to a 3" crush gasket type flange. Kit includes adapter, 3" gasket, and bolt set. $49.95 - only $29.95 when purchased with your Hush or STi exhaust from Dadddy's.

As a Borla distributor we abide by their minimum advertised price policy. See our website for Borla product and don't forget to use your coupon codes. We carry the Hush, STi, and Borla headers.

Crucial Racing:

Crucial T321 Ceramic Coated Uppipe - with gaskets/studs, and Cel fix: $249
Crucial CoolSafe Thermostats $64.95

ScoobySport NA: We receive ScoobySport NA orders approx once every 45-60 days. We have an order arriving any day with a couple of single tip exhauts and downpipes still available. Should be a dual tip available as well. It has been 3+ months since our last SS inventory due to SS NA delays so get your order in now if you don't want to wait another 45.

Note: fivep Coupon Code is not valid on ScoobySport NA product. If entered for these items the discount will be removed before you are charged.

SS Uppipe $249
SS Downpipe $389
SS Single Tip Axleback $561
SS Dual Tip Axleback $619

Interested in bosal sti uppipe. How much to ship to Honolulu, HI 96822? Can you guys use USPS for lower rates? Thanks.

I really wanted the Scoobysport uppipe/downpipe combo, but if it will take 3 months to get it, forget it. Is this combo really worth it for $640 and the wait?

If not, which uppipe/downpipe would you recommend from your inventory?

Thanks,
griff

I really wanted the Scoobysport uppipe/downpipe combo, but if it will take 3 months to get it, forget it. Is this combo really worth it for $640 and the wait?

If not, which uppipe/downpipe would you recommend from your inventory?

Thanks,
griff

Giff,

We'll definately have some downpipes available. I'll check our b/o's on the uppipe and let you know. Crucial uppipe is the nicest one in the $249 range of uppipes no questions. The Bosal doesn't have the same overall finish quality of the Crucial but you get OEM looks no one else can offer and it's a very good pipe. We also have a fantastic T304 flex uppipe available for Nasioc'ers for $149. 1/2" flanges all T304. I haven't seen a nicer flex uppipe for less. I'll post a pic later this evening.

- Rich

Is 3/14 still a go for finalizing the V2? Are you still going to offer the factory flange (donut gasket) as well as the flat flange?

Very nice work, Rich. It has been interesting watching your progress toward unique solutions. Makes me wish I hadn't bought a TXS stealthback long ago. Oh well.

Is 3/14 still a go for finalizing the V2? Are you still going to offer the factory flange (donut gasket) as well as the flat flange?

We are still go. My guys have everything ready to build, just waiting for turbo to DP flanges which are arriving this Monday/Tuesday. We will have them 3 day the units we need for our current backorders so that we can deliver on the 14th commitement we've made.

jblaine - Thanks for the comment, it reinforces that we're on the right track.

- Rich

Love the downpipe with the factory heat shield. Excellent idea...as with the uppipe.

bump for some awesome products and a wide variety of ways to tailor your set-up.
some larger companies could learn a thing or 2 from daddy ;)

do you have an intermediate pipe that goes from 3" to 2.5" and has a high flow cat in it?

I read somewhere on your site or on a message board that your MadDad's downpipe with the high-flow metal substrate cat in the downpipe and the O2 senser heatshield in the center pipe passed the CA emissions test. How credible is that data? I would love to spend a little extra to get a high quality product that would reduce my emissions to law-friendly levels and get NO CELs. Not to mention it looks like a lot of work went into it.

I wanted to bolt that onto the Borla Hush Twin-tip, and your site makes this sound like a good option. :cool:

Capt Crunch - We'll have a lower-cost version of our Halfback pipe(3"/2.5") without the flex joint by end of the month for $199(less the 5%). You'd have to have it cut and have a cat welded in as we don't offer in any version of this pipe. I hear where your coming from, it's just the call for it is a little too light to have even a short run done. If 6 people wanated one, we'd just do it for you guys, otherwise you'll be able to get the $199 deal and cut out a section for the cat. We're also sourcing a 3" hi-flow metal substrate cat for such products. It will run approx. $149. We'll the forum posted. If we had it done the pipe would run about $349(using a metal substrate cat).

griff831 - Here is the scan of the readings from the sniff test. You'll note it's not "official" because it wasn't time for his test. He simply went in for a voluntary sniffer test to see if the results would pass. By his statements he mentioned these readings would be an easy pass. This was done on an STi running our origonal MadDad(TM) Metal and Halfback pipe.
http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/emis_test.gif

BUMP, i wish i could get that dp....

does the bosal sti replica uppipe have the flex joint like the stock uppipe or is it solid?

Do you have a definite ship date for intermediate pipe without the flex in it? I was going to order one with the flex before I knew you were making one without it.

WRXSleeper - I peered into the first one I removed a couple of weeks ago and didn't recall a flex joint. I'll sneak a closer look tomorrow and let you know for sure.

Bird61780 - Nothing definate, but should be by the end of the month at the latest.

- R.

i am waiting for that intermediate pipe price at $199. :D

Cool definitely keep one for me. :)

OK. MadDad(TM) Velocity Headers are in. As a reminder we are including a full gasket set. These are quality 5 layer metal gaskets, not some low rent throw in just to make the package sound complete. The MadDad(TM) logo should easily add another 10hp.....:D

http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/headers_maddad_400.jpg http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/headers_400.jpg
Last chance to get this for the stupid sick price of $449 delivered, excluding alaska and hawaii (coupon codes are not valid and will be removed if used)

A reality check recap:

* Uppipe and header for this price
* All T304 Stainless steel included the lost Wax formed flanges. These flanges are incredible. The uppipe is a decked design not seen in regular laser cut flanges.
* Velocity stack retains low-end torque even though this is a larger bore uppipe supporting much more flow. Great for STi's, VF34's, or any Stage 2 and up tuned car.
* Quality 5 layer metal gasket set included (worth $50 alone)

This deal expires tomorrow night at Midnight. Happy shopping.

- Rich

PM sent...

Do you sell Brosal Brospeed cat-back exhaust gaskets?

Do you sell Brosal Brospeed cat-back exhaust gaskets?

We only have the gaskets one for one with each catback. They are supplied with the catback so we don't purchase any extra.

R.

the bosal up-pipe fits all years? i have a 05 wrx.

the bosal up-pipe fits all years? i have a 05 wrx.

Yes it does, fits 05 Legacy GT as well.

Rich

did the version 2 downpipes come in?

i know you said that they were coming in on the 14th

just checking

jesse

did the version 2 downpipes come in?

i know you said that they were coming in on the 14th

just checking

jesse

Some shipped on the 14th and the rest on the 15th(but a few 3 day select) so we should be shipping b/o's by Monday, and will have good stock by mid-week. It's been almost a 2 month MIA while we cut over the new V2 version but everything is in good order now.

R.

how about the ScoobySport axle backs? receive shipment on those?
if so, how much to ship to 98101
single tip, for a 2004 STi

ya know, I "KNOW" this product... the quality and the sound, but i just looked around for more info, what size is the plumbing? 2.5"? these mate up to an 04STi ok? last time I shopped these it was for a 2000 RS

how about the ScoobySport axle backs? receive shipment on those?
if so, how much to ship to 98101
single tip, for a 2004 STi

ya know, I "KNOW" this product... the quality and the sound, but i just looked around for more info, what size is the plumbing? 2.5"? these mate up to an 04STi ok? last time I shopped these it was for a 2000 RS

We should have our last order in the next week or so. Inventory that we get is all 2.5". If there was enough interest we could have some 3" setups ordered. For a delivered cost use the website and it will calculate the cost to your zip. You don't have to enter any CC info to be able to compute freight.

R.

Hi, I've been looking into something like the Stromung hi-flow metal substrate 2ndary cat pipe(3rd cat WRX/2nd cat STi) $339.
Is this 2.5", and is this the piece that would mount up to the Stromung 2.5" Shorty downpipe, and then connect with a 2.5" STi Catback? I have been looking for a high flow 2.5" pipe/cat to replace the stock 2.25".

Also, this is a lot of money, is there any other companies that make a similar product (with the hi-flow cat), for less cost?

Thanks,
Craig

Hi, I've been looking into something like the Stromung hi-flow metal substrate 2ndary cat pipe(3rd cat WRX/2nd cat STi) $339.
Is this 2.5", and is this the piece that would mount up to the Stromung 2.5" Shorty downpipe, and then connect with a 2.5" STi Catback? I have been looking for a high flow 2.5" pipe/cat to replace the stock 2.25".

Also, this is a lot of money, is there any other companies that make a similar product (with the hi-flow cat), for less cost?

Thanks,
Craig

Craig,

The Stromung hi-flow secondary cat pipe is a 3" pipe, but it is compatible with the factory downpipe or the Stromung 2.5" that you have. The pipe comes in two styles, one that is tapred for fitment of the factory donut gasket(which is what you need) and a on tapered 3" flange for a standard crush gasket. It is an expensive part, this is primarily due to the fact that is uses a metal substrate catalytic converter. If you were to purchase the cat alone it would run in the neighborhood of $149. If your looking for other options perhaps you could purchase a Bosal 3CE for $139 and have a local shop put in a low cost ceramic based cat, although you might just consider keeping the factory one which is ceramic based.

Rich

Hi Rich

I've got the Scoobysport downpipe, axleback and the Stromung 2.5" intermediate pipe on order from you. I was originally just wanting to keep the factory 3rd cat... but I'm thinking about changing my mind. I'm definitely wanting to keep the Scoobysport downpipe and axleback, but what do you recommend to go between the two, to remove the cat? I'm assuming that the downpipe exit and axleback entrance are both 2.5"? Or is the downpipe exit 3".

Thanks,
Frank

We should have our last order in the next week or so

I'm interested (scoobysport single tip axle back). could you PM me when they are available/in-stock? (or post here, either way)

thanks

when are u going to have the 199 deal for the midpipe? the one that tapers down to 2.5in. it's almost the end of the month.

Daddy's SCP, wondering if you have any headers for a Subaru 2001 2.5 RS

Also do you have the bosal single tip?

If so, whats the best price you can give me for everything? Shipping too New Milford CT 06776

thank you
Good luck, :)

PolePosition08 - The new Bosal 3CE(or center/front by ScoobySport talk) is the ideal piece, and just happens to be the lowest cost 3CE by far of any out there. In stock. Look in the Exhaust -> Center/Front category on the website

DougM - We're having some issues right now with ScoobySport NA. ETA is unknown at the moment.

sebtarta - I have Borla heades in stock the RS. I'll PM you a price. The Bosal for the RS is only available via Subaru SPT dealers. Subaru has the rights to it.

- Rich

when are u going to have the 199 deal for the midpipe? the one that tapers down to 2.5in. it's almost the end of the month.
i think u forgot something? :lol:

Any deals coming up on the daddy's dp with 3rd cat elim?

joe r

b4437 - We will have one in next week. This is for test fitting. If it fits good we should have good supply about 10 days later. Of course, this one pipe could be made available for someone else to fit to their car. I'm pretty confident it will fit good on the first. Our fabricator has an excellent track record.

joe r - Actually with the changes we just made our cost to build the downpipe is slightly higher. If anything the price might go up $10. I've been holding back because it's pricey as is. We've considered doing it as a one piece rather than a two piece which would definately lower the price, but then the product isn't as flexible and there are a few people out there that just by the front section(it will bolt up to the factory 3rd cat).

We have finally filled our previous back orders and have the new V2's in stock. Here's a snip of what a full MadDad(TM) Stealth setup looks like:
http://www.daddysscp.com/forumpics/maddad_stealth1.jpg

- Rich

PolePosition08 - The new Bosal 3CE(or center/front by ScoobySport talk) is the ideal piece, and just happens to be the lowest cost 3CE by far of any out there. In stock. Look in the Exhaust -> Center/Front category on the website

- Rich

Thanks Rich.. can you add this to my order? I'm order# 64 I think, under the name Frank Yu.

Thanks Rich.. can you add this to my order? I'm order# 64 I think, under the name Frank Yu.

Done..updated invoice sent. Keep in mind ScoobySport NA is having difficutly in fullfilling our two month old order. I'm pretty sure I already send you an email with the details. I'm trying to get an honest ETA but it's been difficult thus far.

R.

Keep in mind ScoobySport NA is having difficutly in fullfilling our two month old order.

I hear that, I just had a similar experience with an oversea's product. took almost two months to show up. Please keep me on your "list" for a scoobysport single tip axle back, let me know when you know more.

thanks
Doug

recieved my mad dad stealthback yesterday and it looks awesome rich

can't wait to put it on--damn easter dinners with the family(joking)--oh well maybe next weekend

jmanrex - Glad you like it. As they say, "good things come to those who wait". Thanks for hanging in there.

...and speaking of good things to come..."hear" is the new MadDad(TM) Whisper catback.

http://www.daddysscp.com/forumpics/whisper_side_400.jpghttp://www.daddysscp.com/forumpics/whisper_top.jpg
http://www.daddysscp.com/forumpics/whisper_threw_400.jpghttp://www.daddysscp.com/forumpics/whisper_sideclose_400.jpg

MadDad(TM) Whisper Catback Audo/Video Clip with DB levels (http://www.daddysscp.com/forumpics/whisper.wmv)

Final pricing will be announced next week.

- Rich

Whisper sounds noice!! :devil:

Do your headers only come with the up-pipe combo? I have a helix up-pipe and dont want to ever replace a up-pipe again.

BVM - The header is designed specifically for the uppipe that comes with it. The whole thing is slightly larger diameter than the factory header and the uppipe has a velocity stack that helps maintain the low-end while the larger diameter overall gives a nice mid-range punch. EGT's are also MUCH lower even if you already had a catless uppipe.

Trip McNealy - Thanks. We're real happy with how it came out. Spot on the first time around. I've got a few hundred miles on it now and it's settling in and sounding even sweeter. We'll have a pre-order buy announced within the week. It's not going to be the cheapest catback out there. We've spec'd it to be full T304, that includes flanges, pipe work and the canister itself. Double walled resonated tip, and a flex joint in the intermediate pipe since it will be a full 3" gig with no taper for the donut gasket Unlike any other catback it will be offered with a Money Back Gaurantee so folks will be able to buy and judge for themselves if it was worth it.

- Rich

Rich

Rich-

Can you help me? I have a Helix catless downpipe (got it from a fellow NASIOC'R) which should bolt directly to the stock resonator. However, I noticed that the flange is not flat like the one on the downpipe. I believe you offer some sort of flange which can correct this issue right? Or am I best off ordering a new resonator pipe?
I am running a prodrive oval tip axleback.
Thanks in advance

Rich-

Can you help me? I have a Helix catless downpipe (got it from a fellow NASIOC'R) which should bolt directly to the stock resonator. However, I noticed that the flange is not flat like the one on the downpipe. I believe you offer some sort of flange which can correct this issue right? Or am I best off ordering a new resonator pipe?
I am running a prodrive oval tip axleback.
Thanks in advance

If you have the stock catback then you need our Halfback pipe. 3" flat flange on one end(mating to the Helix) and tapered to 2.5" on the other. The adapter we have is specifically for the Borla Hush. We just came out with a new lower cost version of the Halfback pipe(without the flex joint). It will run $189 for nasioc members. I'll PM you details. I acutally have the first one-off of this no flex version sitting in my garage. I was going to test fit it to my car but your realatively local so I'd be fine sending it to you.

Rich

Hey there I am interested in doing a little more than just the Borla hush what would you recommend to do at the same time HUSH install? Other than a complete system? That V2 series MadDad(TM) Metal Downpipe looks really nice especially catted for a nice stealthy upgrade?

Philip

If you have the stock catback then you need our Halfback pipe. 3" flat flange on one end(mating to the Helix) and tapered to 2.5" on the other. The adapter we have is specifically for the Borla Hush. We just came out with a new lower cost version of the Halfback pipe(without the flex joint). It will run $189 for nasioc members. I'll PM you details. I acutally have the first one-off of this no flex version sitting in my garage. I was going to test fit it to my car but your realatively local so I'd be fine sending it to you.

Rich
i'll take one,now :D pm.

I was able Whisper cat back on Rich's car today. It sounds great in person. The quality looks great and fits the bumper cut-out very nicely. The sound of the exhaust is definatly aggressive, but also toned to be quite pleasing to the ear at idle. It seems to work perfectly with the WRX's flat four.

Definatley should be put into consideration if your looking to upgrade your cat-back.

Rich- Thanks for your guidance and help today and in the threads, your knowledge is invaluable, and thanks for the part.

I'll let you know how it works out.
Matt

I was able Whisper cat back on Rich's car today. It sounds great in person. The quality looks great and fits the bumper cut-out very nicely. The sound of the exhaust is definatly aggressive, but also toned to be quite pleasing to the ear at idle. It seems to work perfectly with the WRX's flat four.

Definatley should be put into consideration if your looking to upgrade your cat-back.

Rich- Thanks for your guidance and help today and in the threads, your knowledge is invaluable, and thanks for the part.

I'll let you know how it works out.
Matt

Matt,

Your timing was quite good. It was nice to be able to compare the seat of the pants(or should that be ear) volume difference between your Prodrive axleback(known for it's realative low volume) on your stock WRX(all 3 cats for now) vs. my car with just one high flow cat. It's been so long since I've heard just an axleback on a stock WRX that I forgot what the volume level was like. I am now totally convinced that we hit a home run with the Whisper. I know to your ear and mine, the volume of the two cars sounded the same. Character was different with the Whisper but it seemed to be just as mild as the Prodrive on the rest of your stock exhaust setup. I should have pulled out the DB meter. Report back on the no flex Halback pipe when you can. We're waiting to pull the production trigger and there are a number of guys out there waiting to to hear the good word. Thanks !

- Rich

I want one of the new mid pipes too. How much longer until they are out?

Hey Rich --

Keep up the great work developing niche products for all of us with different performance needs.

I'm looking to keep my system as stock-looking and clean as possible (for now), and I was wondering what kind of price you have going for just the V2 Downpipe. I'll probably get the 3CE in the near future, but a less restrictive, catted shorty downpipe is a must for now...likely in conjuction with that hot Bosal catless uppipe!

Also, what made you decide to go with the single tip on the Whisper? I appreciate that it is quiet, but why not keep it as stock looking as possible with a dual tip?

Look forward to doing business with you soon.

ShiroChanWRX

Silver '02 REX - As soon as 1wrxsw(Matt) fits the one-off to his car and reports back we'll be good to go. Matt thinks that will be next weekend. So we should all plan on a month before we have production to our door. We'll have a few of the more expensive units with the low turbulence flex joint in end of next week. We should have a few left after filling b/o's. The flex unit runs Nasioc members $237.

ShiroChanWRX - $399. We'll be updating the part on the website to add the option of just getting the front section(the real factory DP section w/o the 3CE). Thanks for the comments, we're trying and we've got a slew of other new product coming for later in 05. Some stuff still hasn't even been announced yet.

Rich

Any idea on when the Scoobysport stuff will arrive?

Also, since its been taking so long, I've been researching alternatives to what I originally ordered (order #64)... I'm thinking a 3" catless stealthback with the Scoobysport axleback is what I'm really looking for. I like your MadDad V2 stealth setup but I don't like that cat in the DP being there... do you sell a catless version? If so, I'd like to get that, as well as any gaskets that it might not include, to replace the items I ordered, with the exception of the SS axleback because I still want to keep that. (this is the last time I'll change my order, I promise :)

We've just introducted our new V2 series MadDad(TM) Metal Downpipe. This is a very slick update to our extremely well received Metal Series downpipe. We've re-engineered the wastegate so that it merges back in after the hi-flow metal substrate cat, allowing even better throttle response and faster boost control response. Previous versoins of this downpipe were tested in CA. and it was capable of passing a smog test as the only cat in the system. This is also a NO CEL downpipe solution. No fixes, electrical or mechanical are required. Flexible two-piece setup allows easy swapping of the factory 3rd cat pipe when/if needed. This is the only downpipe that has the catless 2ndary section housed in an oem type heatshield. Nuff said.

http://www.daddysscp.com/nasioc/metalv2a_400.jpg
Note:this was a photo of a pre-production V2. Production units have the cat sitting lower with a longer wastegate tube to support the lower positioning.

MadDad(TM) Metal V2 Downpipe $579.95 (price reflects the full two-piece setup)

Hi Daddy,

I am sorry your post is not very clear, I have a few questions about your 2 pieces downpipe:

Piping diameter?
So the 1st item is a high flow cat and the 2nd item down lower with the heat shield on is a resonator? Or is it just a heat shield?

Thanks!

what's the best deal you can do me for on a Hush with flange and a catless dp shipped to 40324? wanna do the full 3" here within prolly a month ro so and checkin some prices. also, as a second option: what else do you have that's twin-tip (preferred) and has a low volume to it? the twin-tip i might be able to bend a bit on, but i wanna keep it quiet and powerful, so far only the hush has come close to what i'm lookin for. lemme know! :)

DADDYSSCP, Looking at the mad cat downpipe w/ the 3CE in 3" flange or the ceramic coated stromung downpipe with the stromung 3" center with high flow cat. any differences between the 2 besides name? does your 3CE have a mechanical fix already - the extra long bung? does the stromung? flow the same or more? does the ceramic coated stromung mate up to mad 3CE? flanges on yours versus stromung the same thickness and metal grade? my phone is (239)269-5566. Joey

PolePosition08 - Loooong story on the SS. I will know on Friday whether we will be receiving any part of our previous order from months ago. We need to get a few things resolved with ScoobySport NA, and if needed we will be placing an order direct with H&S to get the product but this will take at least a month if we don't get anything by Friday. In regards to other stuff:

A Stromung catless DP connected to a Stromung hi-flow 2ndary section is similiar. The overal pipe diameter and flange styles are the same. That also means a Stromung catless DP will mate perfectly with our 3CE pipe to make a nice catless setup. We use stainless steel flanges on our DP, Stromungs use mild steel. The hi-flow cat in our dp is the same as the one used in Stromungs 2ndary cat pipe. Our V2 does let the wastegate gases go completely catless. Some might think this is a gimmick but it works 100% as advertised. We had a call from one of the local tuners last week literally freaking out over how awsome the new design handles boost control(in particular on STi's). With boost control being very quick they don't get any overboost and are able to tune the car more easily. Also, don't be fooled by the cat being were it is. The torque curve with our V2 downpipe is absolutley sick. It's better than most catless setups and it's in cars that havea been tuned to close to close to 300whp on a dyno dynamics so it's not choking anything being where it is on cars with all the bolt-ons, and it really does make a difference on the low end. This was true even with our V1. Check out ktrperformance.com . They have serveral tuned dyno graphs on cars running our DP. If you compare the parts and compare the graphs you'll find the results are quite good. If you want to go catless we can do a Stromung DP connected to our 3CE is a very nice combo. Let me know after you read this.

JDM addict - It's 3" and yes that is hi-flow metal substrate cat in the primary DP section. On the DP to 3CE connection the 3" isn't a perfect round diameter. It's an ovalized 3" flange on DP exit so it can also mate with the factory 3rd cat if needed. The 3CE exist in a perfect round 3" flange. The 3CE is just a headshield on there. No resonator.

krayge - I think I emailed or PM'd earlier. I've lost track so ping me again if you haven't got anything. Hushes have been on b/o(and still are).

joflewbyu2 - The flange styles are the same on the Stromung and our MadDad(TM). The cat used is the same as well. There are some difference. Our DP uses stainless steel flanges. Our design won't throw a cel. Stromung had plans to move the 02 sensor on their hi-flow 2ndary cat pipe to avoid throwing a cell but have not seen that yet on my recent orders(and I have a recent build in stock). If your running engine management this is moot of course. I don't have any dyno numbers on the stromung combo but I know for a fact that the low end torque we make with the cat where it is, is quite good. KTR Performance in Ayer MA. has many tuned cars running our DP can you can compare the torque cover to similiar tuned catless setups and the torque we get is the equal or better just about everytime. So don't let the position of the cat fool you. Unless your plan on running 400+ whp to the ground I don't think your going to find it's position detrimental. On the contray, we put it there because we have fantastic results with it. Stromung setup will run you a few $$ less as well. Either way, good setups. You get a two year warranty on the MadDad(TM) a one year on the Stromung.

- Rich

Rich

I'm going to go with the catless solution and get the Stromung 3" catless DP with MadDad 3CE and MadDad 3" to 2.5" Intermediate pipe with flex joint (I guess this would be the same as the Stromung / MadDad(TM) Stealthback Combo found on your website). I'd like to add the turbo to downpipe gasket as well.

Go ahead and send this out as soon as my order is changed (order #64). The Scoobysport muffler can be sent separately since who knows when it will arrive. I'll just use the stock muffler with the Stromung/MadDad setup in the meantime.

Thanks,
Frank

Looking at the V2 DP(have 3CE already) and wondering if you thought about ceramic coating it? If so how much more would it be?

Thanks,
Scott

Do you have any cat back setups for the 2002 2.5rs?

When are you expecting more shipments of the Bosal single-tip CBE? What is the expected new price???

JDM addict - It's 3" and yes that is hi-flow metal substrate cat in the primary DP section. On the DP to 3CE connection the 3" isn't a perfect round diameter. It's an ovalized 3" flange on DP exit so it can also mate with the factory 3rd cat if needed. The 3CE exist in a perfect round 3" flange. The 3CE is just a headshield on there. No resonator.

- Rich

Thank you Rich, you have answered all of my questions ;)

Rich

Are they in yet?!!!

Rich,

You mentioned that the V2 series MadDad(TM) Metal Downpipe front section can be had for $399. Can the coupon code be used on it? Will this fit the factory 3rd cat section?

Rich,
I already have the Stromung DP and I am loooking at your 3CE and intermediate pipe w/flex.
1st how much to 92886?, and second I am interested in a Borla Hush like sound volume. Ideally I'd like to tone down the Stromung axback just a bit as it sounds great. I heard the sound clip of your whisper but on my PC it sounds a bit "raspy"-not as smooth as the rest although quiet.
Can a resonator be put into the intermediate pipe? Or mating it with a Prodrive (catless) be just what I am looking for?

Thanks!

Drew

Didn't see it in the thread, so..

Have you gotten Bosal single tips in stock, and how much was the price increase?

Hey folks,

I've anyone is waiting on an email responce, PM or call back please be patient. I've been away for the past 3 days and just got back today so I'm playing a bit of catch up and might not be able to get back to everyone until tomorrow night. Just thought I'd put that shout out here as a general fyi.

- Rich

Any discounts if we drop by your location for pickup?

Any discounts if we drop by your location for pickup?

Same Nasioc 5%(on exhaust bits), but then you tag back on 5% taxachusetts tax :(

R.

u got PM'd

For those waiting of Halfback Intermediate pipes. It's going to be another week and a half. Not sure what happened with the order that should have hit last Friday, but it was a no show and my fabricator is away till end of the week. Transit time to my door is 5 business days when they ship, and it does not appear that have even left though I was told they did 2 weeks ago. We'll keep you all posted.

Rich

Is the 5% off still available? How do you use the code online? I don't see a space for it

Is the 5% off still available? How do you use the code online? I don't see a space for it

After you click the "Add to Cart", the window will refresh and you should see the "Coupon Code" field at the bottom for that product. The "fivep" code is a continuous running discout code for forum members.

Rich

hey,

I have been looking into getting a full TBE for the cheapest yet effective I can. I live in MN so cat issues are not really going to be a problem so I have decided on a fully catless system. What I have come up with is the Bosal Twin Tip CBE, Bosal 3rd cat delete pipe, and the Stromung DP. My main question is will all of this mate up evenly. I keep reading over your pages and keep getting confused when I think I got it. I keep reading bits and pieces stating able to meet up to the 2.5" cat perfectly and other 2.5" parts. This makes me question the flanges on the pipes so I figured I would just ask. What is your opinion of this set up? Roughly how loud do you think it will be? Will it all match up evenly to make a full 3" TBE?

The phrase full 3" is a tough one and the mix of parts will not make for a 3" turboback. The Stromung is a 3" DP but the Bosal 3CE is a 2.5" pipe. However everything you mention will bolt up OK to make a complete turboback. The Stromung DP will mate with the Bosal 3CE even though the exit flange on the Stromung and inlet flange on the Bosal are slightly different. In my mind the Bosal DP is the better match for the Bosal 3CE even though the Stromung will mate up. If you go with the Stromung DP the better match is really our MadDad(TM) 3CE but obviously this is serveral $$ more. If you figure in that the Bosal DP comes with a turbo to DP gasket the price of the Stromung DP and Bosal are within $15. In regards to the catback it actually necks down just a bit where it mates with the factory 3rd cat(or the Bosal 3CE in this case). The bottom line is the parts you mentioned would all work just fine. My opinion is the Bosal DP is the overall better match to the Bosal 3CE. The Bosal 3CE is a 2.5 piece so there is no whay this would have been a complete 3" setup.

Oh yah, it's going to be very loud. The Bosal dual tip is a loud exhaust to begin with, it's way up on the loud scale when catless. It's also been MIA for over two months with no ETA at the moment.

Rich
hey,

I have been looking into getting a full TBE for the cheapest yet effective I can. I live in MN so cat issues are not really going to be a problem so I have decided on a fully catless system. What I have come up with is the Bosal Twin Tip CBE, Bosal 3rd cat delete pipe, and the Stromung DP. My main question is will all of this mate up evenly. I keep reading over your pages and keep getting confused when I think I got it. I keep reading bits and pieces stating able to meet up to the 2.5" cat perfectly and other 2.5" parts. This makes me question the flanges on the pipes so I figured I would just ask. What is your opinion of this set up? Roughly how loud do you think it will be? Will it all match up evenly to make a full 3" TBE?

Oh well if you dont even have a the Cat Back then I will pass on that set up. What is the cheapeast you could set me up for a TBE? I would like it to be a full 3". What are some options you can do that are absurdly expensive.

Oh well if you dont even have a the Cat Back then I will pass on that set up. What is the cheapeast you could set me up for a TBE? I would like it to be a full 3". What are some options you can do that are absurdly expensive.

Do a Stromung downpipe connected to our MadDad(TM) 3CE, then any 3" catback that uses a real 3" flange without any tapers. Stromung has one that would do the job. That whole gig would be $950. On other thought would be the same downpipe/3CE combo with our soon to be released no-flex version of our Halfback pipe. This wold be a 3" exhaust up to the axleback. You could keep the factory or bolt-on any 2.5" bolt-on. $549 (assuming your using the factory axleback). Or just wait it out for the Bosal, but it would be a while(one to two months).

Rich

Any better idea on when you will have V2DP back in stock and could I get a total on my order(#131)
Thanks,
Scott

Does a Bosal Dual tip have a flange compatible with a Helix catted DP? everything i have read is just confusing me more...is the bosal flat flanged or donut style? does it taper or is it true 3"

thanks.

silver rexx - I'll know better tomorrow after speaking with my fabricator. Your origonal emailed invoiced has the correct amount with coupon discount applied.

Crawdads - If I sold the Helix I could tell you for certain but I don't so I can only speculate a little bit. The reason your most likely having difficuty is that it's not so cut and dry with the Bosal. There are some catbacks where issues would be obvious, like the Hush, Stromung based 2.5" catbacks, some of their 3", ScoobySport 2.5" catbacks, and some other select 3" catbacks that have an intermediate pipe that flares out at the end much like the end of a trumptet. These 3" systems are explicitly designed for the donut(though some people have had some luck mating to the Helix, but not the norm) which is why they have the trumpting end. The Bosal is slightly different. It does neck down as it was designed to mate with the factory donut, but in the case of the bosal the intermediate pipe does a small neckdown in diameter but then has a standard flange. The intermediate pipe never does the "trumpet" like many others. This could make it a better match to the Helix. You've got plenty of time to find someone with the setup to verify this because the Bosal dual has been MIA for almost two months now and there is no current ETA(unless you count at least a month an eta). Hope this helps a little.

Rich

Since you make so many innovative exhaust pieces have you though about an up pipe with an external wastegate flange on it? Its going to get more and more popular.

Since you make so many innovative exhaust pieces have you though about an up pipe with an external wastegate flange on it? Its going to get more and more popular.

Actually, yes. It's been asked a few times and it's one of the things we are looking into. We've got a few other products in the queue though so I don't expect anything out the door too soon. But it's on the plate.

Rich

Rich, PM'd you.

Thanks.

Rich, PM'd you.

Thanks.

Back at you. I'm looking up freight from a few different sources. UPS it killer.

Rich

After being on b/o for almost 2 months, we finally received some Borla Hush's back in stock today. We still have a fe 3" flange adapters available as well. Get'um while we got'em.

Rich

Rich - Any update on the intermediate pipes that have been backordered for the last month?

-Chad (order placed 3/14)

In the first post, it was mentioned that "dual high flows" were avaliable. Yet I cannot seem to find any sort Downpipe/TBE with two cats incorporated.

I've looked all over, and am convinced that they do not exist. So where can I find a catted midpipe or something?

Edit: Sorry, wrong forum.

fliz - I hope to find out tomorrow(OK today at this point). My fabricator is back in town and we'll be discussing all the b/o's. I believe they just didn't ship them before going on vacation, but to my knowledge they were built. We'll see. I've got a bunch of guys waiting on them.

In the first post, it was mentioned that "dual high flows" were avaliable. Yet I cannot seem to find any sort Downpipe/TBE with two cats incorporated.

I've looked all over, and am convinced that they do not exist. So where can I find a catted midpipe or something?

Edit: Sorry, wrong forum.

Take the primary section of our MadDad(TM) Metal downpipe, plus a Stromung 2ndary section using a similiar(if not the same) metal substrate cat and there you have it. The Stromung 2ndary is also available in either a 3" flat flange or tapered for the donut gasket. We made the exit flange style on our downpipe the same as the inlet flange on the Stromung 2ndary so that you could mate the two as if they were suppose to be with each other. The combo would run $699.

Rich

Are they in yet? What do you think about that double catted system mentioned above? Or will the single cat in the V2 be sufficient? I have my borla hush and sti catless up waiting for the install. Is there a neater fix for the CEL other than stuffing a resistor and taping the plug? Or am I being to fussy?

Philip

Rich

Are they in yet? What do you think about that double catted system mentioned above? Or will the single cat in the V2 be sufficient? I have my borla hush and sti catless up waiting for the install. Is there a neater fix for the CEL other than stuffing a resistor and taping the plug? Or am I being to fussy?

Philip

Spoke with our fabricator today. We will be receiving V2 downpipes to fill all or back orders(and then some) next week, but we won't be shipping Tuesday thru Friday. We'll be out of the state on business. There is an outside chance we may get a few in to get out the door this coming Monday but I'm not betting on it. The accurate ETA is May 2nd for us to ship all back orders that have a V2 Metal DP. Same for Stromung downpipes. We expect them back in stock next week. As far as how many cats. We know that we have one STi customer that was able to pass a CA. sniffer with just the single cat on our origonal V1 Metal downpipe. We haven't changed the cat the V2 so I would expect the same.

Rich