alex85
04-18-2005, 12:10 AM
Like the title says; what kinds of mods are needed to be done, if there is any??
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View Full Version : FMIC; what kinds of mods need to be done to fit GC8?? alex85 04-18-2005, 12:10 AM Like the title says; what kinds of mods are needed to be done, if there is any?? Scoobie Steve 04-18-2005, 12:27 AM None if you buy one made for a GC. Maybe a little bumper trimming. garface 04-18-2005, 11:13 AM Do you mean using a GD WRX one? I have a APS DR500 for a WRX that I'm going to try to install. If you have an EJ20 it might all line up correctly. I need to take eveerything apart one day to see how it'll fit. And then there is the bumper beam issue I need to figure out. I think I might hack my stock one because I don't think I'll be able to make the APS GD one work. Scoobyslack1 04-18-2005, 12:30 PM None if you buy one made for a GC. Maybe a little bumper trimming. Actually there were a few spots that needed to be cut/trimmed. I got a Greddy FMIC for a GC8 from Japan & had to cut a hole by the intake and one underneath the battery for piping. A light wieght bumper beam will save you alot of cutting, but you may want to lokk at other ways to protect the FMIC. I welded 1" steel pipe around it for protection. It will all depend on what brand you get, they all route a little differently. Jaxx 04-18-2005, 12:39 PM very good question ...depends on how old the car is on a 93 for example there is only 1 set of holes on the passenger side for piping to pass through i have looked at the obx kit as a option but i am enjoying the instant spool of the tiny turbo that i have Scoobyslack1 04-18-2005, 02:10 PM i have looked at the obx kit as a option but i am enjoying the instant spool of the tiny turbo that i have my new ported TD05-16g is spooled up by 2000rpms even w/this huge FMIC :rolleyes: Scoobie Steve 04-18-2005, 07:18 PM Actually there were a few spots that needed to be cut/trimmed. I got a Greddy FMIC for a GC8 from Japan & had to cut a hole by the intake and one underneath the battery for piping. A light wieght bumper beam will save you alot of cutting, but you may want to lokk at other ways to protect the FMIC. I welded 1" steel pipe around it for protection. It will all depend on what brand you get, they all route a little differently. I bought a Hybrid from Australia and didnt have to mod anything, I guess it just depends on quality of the FMIC and the year car its going in. A JDM bumper beam is nice, but a USDM one can be hacked too. And it needs to be said that a FMIC does not add lag, who ever says it does is an idiot. cronic 04-18-2005, 07:23 PM I bought a Hybrid from Australia and didnt have to mod anything, I guess it just depends on quality of the FMIC and the year car its going in. A JDM bumper beam is nice, but a USDM one can be hacked too. And it needs to be said that a FMIC does not add lag, who ever says it does is an idiot. Where can i buy one of those? Any pics of it? Homemade WRX 04-18-2005, 08:56 PM I think I'm just going to make my own kit...I have access to saws, welders, a mill and a lathe...wish I had access to a mandrel bender though Soon2Bgreat 04-18-2005, 09:23 PM Dave, check ebay man. They are cheap and the core looks huge. It looks like it sticks out from under the bumper. How bad was it on your car steve? Looks like a nice kit though. Type like ''Hybrid fmic'' and check their 'other products' they'll have a write up and pics of everything installed. No perrin? Scoobie Steve 04-18-2005, 09:56 PM I was really happy with the Hybrid, its cheap so I wasnt expecting much. I got a free shipping deal so it was on my door step for $800. I had a minor hood clearance issue and its tight between the rad and cam cover but no major mods needed. I sold my JDM bumper beam so I just cut up the stocker. http://home.epix.net/~smf52/DCP01288.JPG http://home.epix.net/~smf52/DCP01199.JPG cronic 04-18-2005, 10:27 PM Holy ****.. I just emailed them and they are running a special for 650 shipped! That is crazy i am ordering tomorrow! The guy also answwered my emails in less the 1 min.. We had a 4-5 email exhange in under 5 min..LOL Steve what bov are you running? Scoobie Steve 04-18-2005, 10:42 PM That deal is crazy :eek: I am running a Greddy Type S. Ds baruuuuu 04-18-2005, 10:47 PM hey cronic who did you email?? that was the full hybrid kit(pipes and all) shipped from australia ???? if so looks like ill be ordering one real soon too :banana: Homemade WRX 04-19-2005, 01:46 AM the guy on email who says he will only ship in australia?...that is the only hybrid kit I have seen on there...will he ship here? -Micah Scoobyslack1 04-19-2005, 12:00 PM http://home.epix.net/~smf52/DCP01199.JPG My bumper beam looked like that when we got done and that's what I was saying about no protection for a rather expensive part. If someone 'bumps' you a little hard while parking it could cause quite a bit of damage. As for the quality of my FMIC and how it fit (after the hacking of the beam), there were no issues, it went in easily. Jaxx 04-19-2005, 12:18 PM 650 shipped from hong kong? cronic 04-19-2005, 12:35 PM Yes he will ship it to the states for 650.. He told me if i buy 3 today it will be 600 shipped each.. PM me if anyone is interested.. Mabey if we get 5-10 we can get em for 550:lol: Oh and that 600 for 3 is for the NEW gt spec version, i think he said 560 for 3 old versions.. garface 04-19-2005, 12:57 PM Does a JDM bumper beam have any problem holding up the weight? Does that one bolt on underneath also, or anywhere besides the beam? garface 04-19-2005, 01:15 PM Cronic, don't forget ScoobieSteve is running a Ver. 6 engine. Do you think that affects the placement of the piping? The GC EJ20 might be positioned a little differently or the throttle body might be in a slightly different spot. Shouldn't be anything major though. Scoobyslack1 04-19-2005, 01:19 PM Does a JDM bumper beam have any problem holding up the weight? Does that one bolt on underneath also, or anywhere besides the beam? mine bolted to the body/frame in front, not the bumper beam...most likely it's the same ImprezaRSfan! 04-19-2005, 02:12 PM My bumper beam looked like that when we got done and that's what I was saying about no protection for a rather expensive part. If someone 'bumps' you a little hard while parking it could cause quite a bit of damage. As for the quality of my FMIC and how it fit (after the hacking of the beam), there were no issues, it went in easily. my bumper beam looks like that too. I remember seeing a thread where a fellow nasioc member hit another scoobie in the parking lot by accident and the guys fmic was severly damaged from a 5mph hit. do u ahve any pics of the steel bar u welded around it ? Is it just a long flat bar like a strut bar welded on the top and bottom to absorb impact? pics pics pics Scoobyslack1 04-19-2005, 02:41 PM not in digital....I was going to do some work on the car this week, maybe I'll pull the front bumper and take a few picks. It's a basically a box around the FMIC, and is welded to the bumper beam in several places. Scoobie Steve 04-19-2005, 04:18 PM mine bolted to the body/frame in front, not the bumper beam...most likely it's the same I bolted mine to the bumper beam and to the rad support on the bottom. The bumper beams (JDM and hacked USDM) are pretty strong and have no trouble supporting the weight. Also the kit comes with 2 pretty heavy brackets that bolt to the lower rad support and to the bottom of intercooler, you can just make out the bolts in my pictures. It would be easy to damage the intercooler but thats what insurance is for. I would say there is very little you can do to protect the intercooler and keep your fogs. garface 04-19-2005, 04:54 PM It would be easy to damage the intercooler but thats what insurance is for. Will insurance cover the intercooler? Or even anything in that area after seeing you barely have a bumper beam? Scoobyslack1 04-19-2005, 05:20 PM Will insurance cover the intercooler? Or even anything in that area after seeing you barely have a bumper beam? no, not that I've ever heard of Scoobie Steve 04-19-2005, 07:12 PM Depends who and what you know about insurance. Will they cover an intercooler....sure they have to because without it you car will not run. Best thing to do is tell your own insurance company you want it covered, then if its damaged your fault or not they have to cover it. Boxologist 04-19-2005, 11:47 PM Yes he will ship it to the states for 650.. He told me if i buy 3 today it will be 600 shipped each.. PM me if anyone is interested.. Mabey if we get 5-10 we can get em for 550:lol: Oh and that 600 for 3 is for the NEW gt spec version, i think he said 560 for 3 old versions.. ackk! i don't have funds ready until may again. hold off and i'll join in! get him to organize one on rs25 if he's scared of here! edit: does it also use the stock BOV flange? Homemade WRX 04-20-2005, 12:04 AM hmmm....the group buy thing is sounding good to me...now I'll just need a bigger turbo and injectors to go along with this Kotir 04-20-2005, 05:18 AM I'd probably be down for a FMIC if this gets rolling... RallySport Direct 04-20-2005, 07:44 PM We carry the APS FMIC for the GC8. http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/intercoolerGCapssmall.jpg Thanks Rick garface 04-20-2005, 08:16 PM We carry the APS FMIC for the GC8. http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/intercoolerGCapssmall.jpg Thanks Rick How will that fit with the new age EJ20's? And how much? Homemade WRX 04-20-2005, 08:45 PM How will that fit with the new age EJ20's? And how much? ditto...what about bumper beam cutting...what is involved there? Boxologist 04-20-2005, 09:28 PM nice. we were talking about a $6-700 FMIC setup and now we are being offered a 1500+shipping setup... garface 04-20-2005, 09:30 PM nice. we were talking about a $6-700 FMIC setup and now we are being offered a 1500+shipping setup... :lol: :lol: We didn't get a price yet. That shouldn't be over $1100. phunkeeHomosapien 04-21-2005, 12:32 PM no i am pretty sure it is like 1500, any want to get that cheap ic group buy goin? cronic 04-21-2005, 12:42 PM no i am pretty sure it is like 1500, any want to get that cheap ic group buy goin? Like i said anyone who wants in let me know asap and i will do all the work.. I have myself and another person ready to go right now, so lets get this thing rolling.. I bet if we got 5-10 it could get cheap.. Dave RallySport Direct 04-21-2005, 02:19 PM nice. we were talking about a $6-700 FMIC setup and now we are being offered a 1500+shipping setup... It is hard to find a decent frount mount for a GC. I know because I looked for a year. Yes this frount mount is expensive, but we do have GC love over here :banana: The frount mount for $600.00 sounds like a screaming deal, But im just trying to give more options for the people with swaps. :p Thanks Rick cronic 04-21-2005, 02:30 PM It is hard to find a decent frount mount for a GC. I know because I looked for a year. Yes this frount mount is expensive, but we do have GC love over here :banana: The frount mount for $600.00 sounds like a screaming deal, But im just trying to give more options for the people with swaps. :p Thanks Rick So why not offer us a group buy on your APS fmic? I would go for one, for the right price.. I understand it isnt going to be 600 but what can you do? akcel 04-21-2005, 04:50 PM so cronic did u ever clarify if the 600 buck price includes piping, or is it just the core. akcel 04-21-2005, 04:52 PM and cobb quoted me 1400 for the aps ic. cronic 04-21-2005, 04:54 PM so cronic did u ever clarify if the 600 buck price includes piping, or is it just the core. It is the entire GT SPEC kit.. Piping, core, everything shipped to your door.. They said shipping would be 3-4 days DHL air.. RallySport Direct 04-21-2005, 04:57 PM So why not offer us a group buy on your APS fmic? I would go for one, for the right price.. I understand it isnt going to be 600 but what can you do? Sorry, I wish we could :mad: But, APS will not allow us to. Thanks Rick cronic 04-21-2005, 04:59 PM Guys if you want a FMIC contact me ASAP.. I am most likely going to order on monday with 2 others for 600, i bet if we can get another 3-4 we can get it down. He also said the price is going up, this is just a sale they are having so dont sleep on this.. PM me OR contact me on AIM. akcel 04-21-2005, 05:49 PM any pics of the gt version? installed and uninstalled Homemade WRX 04-21-2005, 06:13 PM I think that the hybrid is tooo large for me...I've seen pics of it from the front where it hangs slightly beneath the front bumper...and besides, it is too much of a drag fm for me...less lag is better for me..front bumper beams are good too akcel 04-21-2005, 06:28 PM that's what I've seen on most cronic 04-21-2005, 06:29 PM I think that the hybrid is tooo large for me...I've seen pics of it from the front where it hangs slightly beneath the front bumper...and besides, it is too much of a drag fm for me...less lag is better for me..front bumper beams are good too :lol: @ Less lag.. C'mon man, are you really concerned that the fmic is going to add "lag" And it needs to be said that a FMIC does not add lag, who ever says it does is an idiot. Exactly! Homemade WRX 04-21-2005, 10:56 PM :lol: @ Less lag.. C'mon man, are you really concerned that the fmic is going to add "lag" yeah...having taken thermo and high performance piston engines and also tons of research on the web...I am looking at making a front mount with significantly shorter pipes and a smaller core large enough to disipate heat for the cfm and psi I'm looking to run...but yeah...the benefits of having the intercooler up front is why I'm not running a tmic... cronic 04-21-2005, 11:10 PM yeah...having taken thermo and high performance piston engines and also tons of research on the web...I am looking at making a front mount with significantly shorter pipes and a smaller core large enough to disipate heat for the cfm and psi I'm looking to run...but yeah...the benefits of having the intercooler up front is why I'm not running a tmic... I am just giving you my real world experience.. Everyone on the "web" always talked about front mounts adding lag, and especially the aps dr500 since it was too big :rolleyes: When i ran it with a green on my 2.0 i made 24psi at 4k, and it was no laggier then with a tmic.. INFACT when comparing my boost plot to a friends with the same set-up but a tmic our boost blots layed directly over one another.. Most of the people on the internet like to give advice, and make statements about thigs they don't know about. Most of the people bitching about the added "lag" a fmic adds, or how un bearable the lag on upgraded turbos are, are running stock turbos, or relativily mild set-ups... MyFirstDeuce 04-22-2005, 12:18 AM subscribe. Cronic, you mentioned that this is the 'gt spec' version. What other versions does he carry? Like homemade, i think the i/c is a bit big for me. Do they carry something a bit smaller that might require less 'hacking' of the beams? -Al Homemade WRX 04-22-2005, 03:32 AM yes I know most people bitch about the lag from a fmic set up...I'm just saying that according to the science and laws of physics, you will have more lag before you see boost and peak boost...maybe not by much but you will. there is no denying it. the difference between your map and your friends could also be difference in tuning. none the less, I know the lag isn't AS bad as everyone makes it out to be...I would just like even less...plus there is no reason to have more weight and cooling than necessary...especially when that weight it being transferred from behind the front wheels to infront of them ;) cronic 04-22-2005, 11:01 AM yes I know most people bitch about the lag from a fmic set up...I'm just saying that according to the science and laws of physics, you will have more lag before you see boost and peak boost...maybe not by much but you will. there is no denying it. the difference between your map and your friends could also be difference in tuning. none the less, I know the lag isn't AS bad as everyone makes it out to be...I would just like even less...plus there is no reason to have more weight and cooling than necessary...especially when that weight it being transferred from behind the front wheels to infront of them ;) More weight? The less of that beast of a beam you hack the more weight you will have :lol: :lol: Anyway, he has an old version(Like steves) the New Gtspec version is more efficent, lighter, etc.. akcel 04-22-2005, 11:34 AM what are the dimensions of the gt spec version? how tall is it? cronic 04-22-2005, 11:36 AM what are the dimensions of the gt spec version? how tall is it? look on ebay. Boxologist 04-22-2005, 12:07 PM dave or steve, where is the BOV flange, and is it the same as the OEM design? Dave, please PM me with how the payment situation/conatct is. Homemade WRX 04-22-2005, 12:41 PM I'd be willing to bet that the bov mount is like the GC8 intercooler mounts... and since the IC is lighter than the old version, how mufch does it weigh, approx or exact...? cronic 04-22-2005, 01:54 PM I'd be willing to bet that the bov mount is like the GC8 intercooler mounts... and since the IC is lighter than the old version, how mufch does it weigh, approx or exact...? Box i will PM you in a few.. I think the Bov is a piece of pipe off the main IC pipe by the t-body.. You can use any universal BOV i believe it attachs with set screws.. I am not sure the weight.. Eby 04-22-2005, 02:16 PM I am just giving you my real world experience.. Everyone on the "web" always talked about front mounts adding lag, and especially the aps dr500 since it was too big :rolleyes: When i ran it with a green on my 2.0 i made 24psi at 4k, and it was no laggier then with a tmic.. INFACT when comparing my boost plot to a friends with the same set-up but a tmic our boost blots layed directly over one another.. Most of the people on the internet like to give advice, and make statements about thigs they don't know about. Most of the people bitching about the added "lag" a fmic adds, or how un bearable the lag on upgraded turbos are, are running stock turbos, or relativily mild set-ups... I had more lag when running a hyperflow FMIC on my EJ20 swapped GC8. The lag got pretty tiresome to me after a while. If I do another project GC8, I won't be going the FMIC route because of that(or the EJ20 route for that matter). I'd like to do a water to air intercooler next time. Oh, anyone planning to run a GC8 specific FMIC, if it uses the old style BOV, I've got a Forge recirculating BOV for a V4 STI with the accessory kit of springs/spacers for tuning the valve. PM me if interested. cronic 04-22-2005, 02:29 PM I had more lag when running a hyperflow FMIC on my EJ20 swapped GC8. The lag got pretty tiresome to me after a while. If I do another project GC8, I won't be going the FMIC route because of that(or the EJ20 route for that matter). I'd like to do a water to air intercooler next time. Oh, anyone planning to run a GC8 specific FMIC, if it uses the old style BOV, I've got a Forge recirculating BOV for a V4 STI with the accessory kit of springs/spacers for tuning the valve. PM me if interested. You probally had other issues.. There have been plenty of FMIC haters(ebeck for one ;) ) who trash talked fmic's to no end, then finally broke down and got a fmic, and reported back how they will never go without one again, and lag was either decreased, or the same.. I am not sure the specifics on your set-up but tuning could play a part in your problems.. I would say in my own experience that 24psi, on a 2.0 with an fp green and big aps fmic, is hardley laggy.. Eby 04-22-2005, 02:38 PM I don't think I was having any issues. It was definitely running strong, trapping 112 with a VF34. You have your experiences, I have mine. I definitely noticed more lag after the FMIC. cronic 04-22-2005, 04:28 PM I don't think I was having any issues. It was definitely running strong, trapping 112 with a VF34. You have your experiences, I have mine. I definitely noticed more lag after the FMIC. What you are trapping has no relevance to low end and spool.. Most tuners don't tune low end, and spool up, just WOT.. I spent time on my low end.. Oh and on the test of my car and my friends car, we both ran the SAME map and our spoolup was identical.. Everyone is however entitled to their opinion.. Eby just for reference what RPM where u seing full boost, and what psi? Thanks Eby 04-22-2005, 06:21 PM I was boosting about 17-18 psi. Full boost around 4500 rpms or so with the FMIC in 1st gear from a stop. Plus with the FMIC I noticed in higher gears when you punched it it would take a second for boost to come on where as the TMIC it was more instant. All I'm saying is the car ran strong, and there were no problems like hesitation or anything(other than waiting for boost) throughout the RPM's. So I'd consider it tuned pretty well. It definitely didn't have anything special done for low end spool. Are you talking like an anti-lag system? Either way, I'd rather have a 2.5 and top mount so I don't have to worry about special tuning to make the low end better, or an anti lag system that will destroy my turbo a lot quicker. cronic 04-23-2005, 12:16 AM I was boosting about 17-18 psi. Full boost around 4500 rpms or so with the FMIC in 1st gear from a stop. Plus with the FMIC I noticed in higher gears when you punched it it would take a second for boost to come on where as the TMIC it was more instant. All I'm saying is the car ran strong, and there were no problems like hesitation or anything(other than waiting for boost) throughout the RPM's. So I'd consider it tuned pretty well. It definitely didn't have anything special done for low end spool. Are you talking like an anti-lag system? Either way, I'd rather have a 2.5 and top mount so I don't have to worry about special tuning to make the low end better, or an anti lag system that will destroy my turbo a lot quicker. No anti lag, just tuning.. Like i said most tuners wont tune anything but WOT, which is great for power, but what about the 95% of the time when you are just driving around.. When did you see you 17-18psi in say 3rd or fourth? Eby 04-23-2005, 12:19 AM Yea, 1st and 2nd didn't put enough load on the engine to spool that much, especially with the lighter weight of the GC8. I think I was only hitting about 15 in 1st. cronic 04-23-2005, 12:23 AM Yea, 1st and 2nd didn't put enough load on the engine to spool that much, especially with the lighter weight of the GC8. I think I was only hitting about 15 in 1st. So at what RPM in 3-4 gear? 4500? Eby 04-23-2005, 12:26 AM Nah, in the later gears it would come on faster. I can't remember for sure, I'd say 4000 or so. cronic 04-23-2005, 02:15 AM Nah, in the later gears it would come on faster. I can't remember for sure, I'd say 4000 or so. If that is the case you had tuning issues, a leak, etc.. Like i said i was making 24psi bt 4k with a green.. When i would punch it at 4k from a roll my car would hit boost almost instantly, even with my dr500 fmic.. Here is a snipit from a utec log of my boost.. 3584 +14.1 3561 +15.3 3595 +17.4 3749 +19.0 3766 +20.6 3835 +21.8 3889 +22.5 3977 +23.1 4065 +23.5 4040 +23.9 Homemade WRX 04-23-2005, 03:00 AM so when did you start to see positive boost...say 7 or 8 psi?... and for tuning down low, I'm assuming idle about 420-440 C and leaned out to get EGT's to about 700 C for pre-spool rpm's?...peak egt was what?...820 C...? still quite impressed with the numbers...I wonder how much of a role the high end turbo had with the spool numbers. PHATsuby 04-23-2005, 03:31 AM actually i was under the impression you richen up and retard timing to spool a turbo faster. Ben Eby 04-23-2005, 04:41 AM If that is the case you had tuning issues, a leak, etc.. Like i said i was making 24psi bt 4k with a green.. No, it was coming on quicker in later gears for the same reason I was getting more boost in the later gears. There is more load on the engine, so more exhaust flow, quicker spool, more boost. I definitely didn't have any leaks, I would have been seeing some issues then in how it runs since I was running an off the shelf map. Eby 04-23-2005, 04:45 AM Yea, retarding timing and adding fuel is how some people tune for anti lag. The autronic anti lag functions that way. It will put more stress on the turbo. PHATsuby 04-23-2005, 05:34 AM thats funny, i have an autronic, how coincidental, lol. sorry its late. Ben cronic 04-23-2005, 09:12 AM so when did you start to see positive boost...say 7 or 8 psi?... and for tuning down low, I'm assuming idle about 420-440 C and leaned out to get EGT's to about 700 C for pre-spool rpm's?...peak egt was what?...820 C...? still quite impressed with the numbers...I wonder how much of a role the high end turbo had with the spool numbers. Yes, more or less that is what i did.. I will have to dig up the logs, that snipit i found in another thread i posted.. Dave- Boxologist 04-25-2005, 08:09 PM bump. anything happening w/ the Intercoolers Dave? cronic 04-25-2005, 08:18 PM Nope. I am extremly busy right now with my move from NY-Az on wed.. I am going to hold off till i get settled.. I had a few people PM me, so if any one wants to do this just email hybrid and see what they will do for whatever number you have confirmed.. Soon2Bgreat 05-24-2005, 11:46 AM Ok guys i've spent the last 4 hours messing around with a new version TXS FMIC on my 99RS with sti v7. At first i was pleasantly surprised as the piping looked like it fit through the fender and lined up pretty well. That is what the first picture shows. The driver side pipe needed some work to clear the fuel lines. I had to cut in the driver side way down by the bumper where the pipe comes out to give it some extra clearance so it could move up. It also touches a bolt that holds the timing belt cover on, but barely. I also had to trim the bracket on the radiator that holds the coolant overflow. That was also removed as TXS gives you another one. I had to move a bit of wiring and need to resecure that. The pass. side pipe looked fine at first. But it was too long and didn't center the FMIC core. That is picture 2. I had to cut about 2 inches off the pipe to get it to move the core back to the center. I will need to extend the driver side by about 2 inches now also. I may be able to keep my foglights...looks promising so far. I trimmed the bumper in the middle to accomodate the core and looks to be pretty clean. I am not sure how i will mount the bumper. I may just zip tie/bolt it for now and come up with something later. I also don't know how to mount the core. I can drill 2 holes at the bottom on the beam by the radiator, but i'm not sure how to secure it from above. I may have to fab. a bracket. The TXS beam is basically useless for me. Overall it fits pretty badly, lol. But it is doable and depending on how much time i put into it, it could look pretty clean, only time will tell. Basically...buy a gc8 hybrid fmic or get a good shop to custom fab you one. Pics are bad quality sorry...it was my camera phone. #1) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/Soon2Bgreat/fmicpiping.bmp #2) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/Soon2Bgreat/fmic1sttry.bmp P.S. Good thing i got it used as i scratched it up pretty good while 'fitting' it :lol: More than likely when it's all tidy i'll take the pipes back out and polish everything over again. cronic 05-24-2005, 12:08 PM DOes the Txs have rolled edges on the ends of the pipes? Did you have to cut that off? It is definetly majiorly off center :p Looks good though. Did everything else get there? Thanks for calling :lol: Soon2Bgreat 05-24-2005, 12:10 PM Yea it does have the rolled edges...i'm going to take the pipe and have a bead welded on, or i'll cut off the rolled edge section and have them reweld that. Now that i cut the pipe it actually is centered real nice, i'll get more pics when its further along, i'm kind of at a standstill right now. Most of the stuff is here, but not all. Calling you now punk.:) garface 05-25-2005, 01:48 PM What do you have left to get/do? Don't finish before I get there. :lol: Soon2Bgreat 05-25-2005, 02:29 PM The problem now is i have to cut the stock bumper beam, which isn't going to well. I'm going to bring it to a shop that has a plasma cutter and have them go at it. I also have to clean up the cuts on the bumper. akcel 05-26-2005, 08:57 PM so i emailed hybrid to see if they would give me a 'special rate' on 5 gt spec fmics for the gc8. they told me 600 shipped. not sure if anyone is still interested, shoot me a PM or email ( craig@eventvibe.com ) if you are. Soon2Bgreat 07-05-2005, 08:17 PM Just as an update. I ended up using the JDM bumper beam as it's 10x's easier to deal with. Took me 2mins to cut off 2 small pieces with a sawzall on the JDM beam. I'd been cutting for about an hour on the USDM beam. Get a JDM beam if you want to install a FMIC. Not only is it a bigger area for the core, but the material is much thinner so it's much easier to cut and bend. I'll have pics shortly...maybe. I'm terrible with taking pics sorry:( moss 07-05-2005, 09:18 PM You Suck At Teh Internart! J/k... pictaures. Soon2Bgreat 07-05-2005, 09:26 PM J/k... pictaures. ...and you suck at spelling :p Boxologist 07-06-2005, 07:31 PM so i emailed hybrid to see if they would give me a 'special rate' on 5 gt spec fmics for the gc8. they told me 600 shipped. not sure if anyone is still interested, shoot me a PM or email ( craig@eventvibe.com ) if you are. wow i can't beleived i missed this post a few month back. i'll PM u. Nitro Don 07-06-2005, 10:13 PM Ok guys i've spent the last 4 hours messing around with a new version TXS FMIC on my 99RS with sti v7. At first i was pleasantly surprised as the piping looked like it fit through the fender and lined up pretty well. That is what the first picture shows. The driver side pipe needed some work to clear the fuel lines. I had to cut in the driver side way down by the bumper where the pipe comes out to give it some extra clearance so it could move up. It also touches a bolt that holds the timing belt cover on, but barely. I also had to trim the bracket on the radiator that holds the coolant overflow. That was also removed as TXS gives you another one. I had to move a bit of wiring and need to resecure that. The pass. side pipe looked fine at first. But it was too long and didn't center the FMIC core. That is picture 2. I had to cut about 2 inches off the pipe to get it to move the core back to the center. I will need to extend the driver side by about 2 inches now also. I may be able to keep my foglights...looks promising so far. I trimmed the bumper in the middle to accomodate the core and looks to be pretty clean. I am not sure how i will mount the bumper. I may just zip tie/bolt it for now and come up with something later. I also don't know how to mount the core. I can drill 2 holes at the bottom on the beam by the radiator, but i'm not sure how to secure it from above. I may have to fab. a bracket. The TXS beam is basically useless for me. Overall it fits pretty badly, lol. But it is doable and depending on how much time i put into it, it could look pretty clean, only time will tell. Basically...buy a gc8 hybrid fmic or get a good shop to custom fab you one. Pics are bad quality sorry...it was my camera phone. #1) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/Soon2Bgreat/fmicpiping.bmp #2) http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v139/Soon2Bgreat/fmic1sttry.bmp P.S. Good thing i got it used as i scratched it up pretty good while 'fitting' it :lol: More than likely when it's all tidy i'll take the pipes back out and polish everything over again. http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wOTkzMjEwNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg Here is a pic of my 2001 RS with the "new" TXS FMIC. I started by centering the core.There are two threaded holes on the bottom of the rad support which I used to bolt the core to. Then cut up the stock bumper beam to fit the core.Then bolted the core on the top to the bumper beam. Fitment was perfect. I see why your core is off-center,you are using the wrong pipe on the pass side to the core. The pipe you should have used is (in your pic) on the top pass side. Take a look at mine then look at yours and you will see it. I did have to enlarge the pass side inner fender hole to fit the piping and underneath the batt area a little but other than that its perfect. Ive also installed the TXS FMIC in a 2002WRX and 2004STI,so I know the piping layout.Plus its easier when I can stand in the engine bay when fitting it all up. :lol: Don MyFirstDeuce 07-06-2005, 10:21 PM Thanks Don. Keep us updated on your project. And thanks for your ej20. . i'm loving it in my RS. garface 07-07-2005, 01:00 AM see why your core is off-center,you are using the wrong pipe on the pass side to the core d'oh!! I was actually going to say that maybe the pipes were wrong the day I went to look at it, but figured you did it right. Just didn't make sense why it would be off center. GD and GC have the same center in relation to the engine. That sucks that you cut the pipes. garface 07-07-2005, 01:03 AM Don, is that a JDM lightweight bumper beam? Nitro Don 07-07-2005, 09:01 AM Don, is that a JDM lightweight bumper beam? Its not the JDM beam. Its the stock beam that I cut to fit. :D garface 07-07-2005, 09:39 AM Its not the JDM beam. Its the stock beam that I cut to fit. :D What did you use to cut it, came out really good. Thanks. Soon2Bgreat 07-07-2005, 11:25 AM I guess it could've been the wrong pipe...I guess my piping will just be 2inches shorter, less lag :p akcel 07-07-2005, 01:06 PM lol thats pretty funny Nitro Don 07-07-2005, 01:18 PM What did you use to cut it, came out really good. Thanks. I used a grinder,drill,hammer and welder. I drilled the spot welds out to pull off the pieces,hammered some metal around then grinded it up a little to shape it out.When finished I welded up a few seams to close everything up. Why buy a JDM beam when I can fab mine for free :banana: garface 07-07-2005, 01:25 PM So you didn't actually cut anything, correct? Nitro Don 07-07-2005, 01:29 PM So you didn't actually cut anything, correct? No, I had to cut some.I used a sawzaw for that. keirnna 08-10-2005, 03:39 PM So where can I get this hybrid FMIC from? |