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White 2.5rs
04-21-2005, 01:13 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31868&item=4544163398&rd=1

is that possible w/ that many whp?

alex

Phatron
04-21-2005, 01:36 AM
depends on dyno, elevation, temp, etc, etc, etc

But if it did 290 whp on pump, I would say it could do an 11.9 on race gas. But it seems to me that the guy was told he could do an 11.9. If he had there would be a pic of the slip as it would help the car sell fastar.
Also he has teh speci3l UNIT CHIP engine management.

AntiochCali
04-21-2005, 02:26 AM
?? I don't think so....NOx maybe? I have over 320 ft-lbs at the wheels on the Gruppe-s uncorrected Mustang dyno - that would be around 350 ft-lbs on most other dynos and my best is 12.77 at 107.7 no Nitrous on CA 91. There is another guy who ran 12.5 @ 108, so I should be able to do 12.5 but 11.9???? I think that's only possible with Nitrous or a short track :)

Or maybe he has a race gas map? His engine managment is the Unichip and that isn't the greatest - maybe he has someone local who can do a race gas map for his Unichip?

robvas
04-21-2005, 09:02 AM
Sounds like a lie, or maybe they were on race gas or used nitrous or... Ask them for a timeslip/video. Buddy of mine had an SR40 that dyno'd over 300 on a Dynpac and couldn't break out of the 13's to save his life

mbiker97
04-21-2005, 10:56 AM
No way. 290whp is good for mid 12s if you're a reasonable driver.

unit chip engine management

At least he knows his car! :lol:

Phatron
04-21-2005, 10:57 AM
I have over 320 ft-lbs at the wheels on the Gruppe-s uncorrected Mustang dyno - that would be around 350 ft-lbs on most other dynos and my best is 12.77 at 107.7 no Nitrous on CA 91. There is another guy who ran 12.5 @ 108, so I should be able to do 12.5 but 11.9????


Peak numbers dont tell any of the story. Its more about the area under the torque curve and we have no idea what his looks like. But I thought that most of the time the peak torque should be less than the peak hp n the 2.0. Hell I have a 2.2 and did 350 hp and 320 ft*lbs, but I dont hit peak torque until 4400 rpm.
So someone with a vf34, vf39 wrx that hits peak torque of 280 around 3000 rpm is going to be as fast or faster than me because they will have more area under the curve and more usable power.

eastcoastbumps
04-22-2005, 12:24 AM
Dear eastcoastbumps,

You asked:
"Was your 11.9 pass done with 16psi and 292whp? http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=756291"

yes, and on pump gas You could run race gas and turn the boost up to 22psi. After 18psi you get about 13hp per pound of boost(10hp) to the ground Thank you and good luck

InfamousDX
04-22-2005, 12:38 AM
Must be his "unit chip" engine management.

jmj1112
04-22-2005, 01:09 AM
No tranny mods?????????

very few people can do those kind of times w the stock tranny

AntiochCali
04-22-2005, 03:04 AM
No tranny mods?????????

very few people can do those kind of times w the stock tranny

I've done a number of high 12's on the stock WRX '03 5 speed (but I am on my 3rd clutch). I also do track days...I am not sure why some people are blowing trannys, but I'm not and I have more torque than anyone else I know running 91

jared nelson
04-22-2005, 12:42 PM
yay for the Gtec, making slow people fast since 2000.

White 2.5rs
04-22-2005, 01:46 PM
haha thats probably what it is

2002WRXSTi
04-22-2005, 04:31 PM
yay for the Gtec, making slow people fast since 2000.
Gotta be what it is :rolleyes: When I was dynoed at the 290 range I went 13/12.9 zone.

Scoobie Steve
04-22-2005, 04:52 PM
I put down less power and went faster. That time is possible but for sure the car has been abused if it really ran that time.

powerleak
04-22-2005, 04:56 PM
i agree the 11.99 is questionable probably a gtech as everyone is saying but he does have a good list of mods. maybe someone should email to ask where he got the uni-chip tuned. don't they have 93 octane at the pump too?

bunot
04-22-2005, 05:22 PM
the 11.99 is not questionable. it's impossible. you need at least over 350whp to break into the 11s on a wrx.

dug-e-fresh
04-22-2005, 06:00 PM
With 310-320 whp and only 270 ft/lbs of torque on the high reading (rolleyes) Turbo XS Dynapack I ran 12.0s @ 114-115.

Not easy, but depending on what dyno... not completely 100% impossible. More like 99% impossible...lol!

def

Fitz12444
04-22-2005, 06:23 PM
guys come on... its got mirror tint! thats good for at least 40whp

dug-e-fresh
04-22-2005, 06:25 PM
and its teflon coated (reduces drag).

def

bunot
04-22-2005, 06:29 PM
With 310-320 whp and only 270 ft/lbs of torque on the high reading (rolleyes) Turbo XS Dynapack I ran 12.0s @ 114-115.

Not easy, but depending on what dyno... not completely 100% impossible. More like 99% impossible...lol!

def

did u have any lightweight mods?

the only way for a wrx with close to stock weight to reach 11.9sec on the 1/4mile is to have 350+whp or a completely flat power curve (yes i know that's an oxymoron).

bear in mind, i am using 350whp as "true" whp and not as a minimum limit based on the variations in dynos.

dug-e-fresh
04-22-2005, 07:26 PM
did u have any lightweight mods?

the only way for a wrx with close to stock weight to reach 11.9sec on the 1/4mile is to have 350+whp or a completely flat power curve (yes i know that's an oxymoron).

bear in mind, i am using 350whp as "true" whp and not as a minimum limit based on the variations in dynos.

I went 12.0 with weight reductions and 12.1 without (still no spare, worse sixty foot)... I considered it a wash.

I was running the twinscroll VF36 which really helped my area under the curve. I remember when I put up those numbers people said I had to be making 360+, but I wasn't nowhere near that... heck according to alot of people, that 310-320 on the Turbo XS's dyno would have been 270-280 everywhere else... ;) Go figure :D

def

vtecTHIS
04-22-2005, 09:28 PM
not really a smart idea to post a 1/4 time and say you baby the car :lol:

2002WRXSTi
04-22-2005, 09:30 PM
not really a smart idea to post a 1/4 time and say you baby the car :lol:
Maybe he washed and waxed it a lot ;)

kettsupp
04-22-2005, 10:01 PM
not really a smart idea to post a 1/4 time and say you baby the car :lol:
he didn't say he babied the car, he said the car has been his baby. there's a difference. like my car, my car is my baby but i run it hard at times

2002WRXSTi
04-22-2005, 10:18 PM
Well I used to baby my car, that is till I found flat shifting got me into the 12's. It's been all downhill since then :rolleyes:

MY99 2.5GT
04-30-2005, 01:36 PM
No way did he run 11.9 in a stock internal WRX 2.0 on only 18psi and no nitrous. Sorry can't be done.

My friends EVO posted an 11.96 fairly close to sea level running race gas and 24psi. He dynoed with premium pump gas at 309 WHP on a mustang dyno at 21psi. He has a huge front mount HKS264 cams huge injectors and very programable engine management. Keep in mind the Evo has much higher compression then the WRX (9.5:1) if I recall correctly with a cast iron bottom end. He figures on C16 at the boost levels he running were good for slightly over 400whp to allow him the 11.96 he ran.

Brad

jared nelson
04-30-2005, 01:49 PM
its allready been discussed, Gtec is our speculation

REX8
04-30-2005, 06:45 PM
I've never really seen that g-techs are off by THAT much. Maybe a little, but in testing against real equipment, they actually read pretty close, sometimes even high. But .6 in the quarter is a lot. Instead of guessing g-tech, why wouldn't you just guess that he made up a number? That would make more sense

2002WRXSTi
04-30-2005, 08:13 PM
I've never really seen that g-techs are off by THAT much. Maybe a little, but in testing against real equipment, they actually read pretty close, sometimes even high. But .6 in the quarter is a lot. Instead of guessing g-tech, why wouldn't you just guess that he made up a number? That would make more sense
If you really screw with inputing the wieght you can make the G-Tech do almost anything :p

robvas
04-30-2005, 10:43 PM
No way did he run 11.9 in a stock internal WRX 2.0 on only 18psi and no nitrous. Sorry can't be done.

My friends EVO posted an 11.96 fairly close to sea level running race gas and 24psi. He dynoed with premium pump gas at 309 WHP on a mustang dyno at 21psi.

What's wrong with your buddies Mitsu?

Buschur Racing claims:

11.79@116 MPH
STOCK TURBO &
PUMP GAS!

2phless
04-30-2005, 11:09 PM
That guy never ran those times (I'd bet). He's the second owner so he probably purchased it with every mod already installed and was TOLD it'd do that. If he'd done any of that stuff, he'd know how to spell "Unit Chip" (Ruffles have ridges.)

I mean he payed Ebay extra $$ for a second photo of his dash just to illustrate that his CD player changes color, plus a useless close up of that same low to medium end unit. He's obviously a complete dolt. I'd guess the "expansion" in his family is not a child like one would believe, but his own butt.

With my weights and coefficients of drag etc... entered as accurately as I could (not very), my G-timer (escort's unit) shows me running 2/10ths quicker and 2 mph fast in the 1/4.

2phless
04-30-2005, 11:14 PM
Continuing Rant:

And look at the shots under his hood. Do ANY of you have motors that ever get that dirty?

WashmyScooby
05-03-2005, 08:49 PM
Maybe he stripped the entire interior out or something... or the 1/4 mile was straight off a 1/4 mile high cliff...

Jimbo
05-04-2005, 02:02 PM
I've done a number of high 12's on the stock WRX '03 5 speed (but I am on my 3rd clutch). I also do track days...I am not sure why some people are blowing trannys, but I'm not and I have more torque than anyone else I know running 91

Ummm, maybe the fact that you're on your third clutch has something to do with it? :)