First off let me start off by thanking Dan and Mike at god speed for all there hard work. I would also like to thank Quirt at Crawford performance for all of his help. Thic car has way more power with this set up but we ran out of fuel due to the over sized pump. I will be fixing this problem and she will be going back on the dyno. With the current set up and the fuel fixed I feel this car has every bit off 580 in it. Next time it goes on the dyno we will be putting a larger turbo on and we will really let it rip. I will post dyno sheets tonight. Dyno used =dyno pack 5000 Here is the current set up
Crawford performance 2.8
Stock sti heads
Magnus in take this is a must for flow.
pe 850 injectors
hydra ems
godspeed 650r kit soon to be 750
turbo 35r with 65 pound wheel soon to have 75 pound wheel
gt spec header
rsr exhaust
tgv deletes
If you have any questions i will try to answer them but if I can not answer them I am sure god will tell you. :)

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Also made 492 foot pounds of torque

Here are some pictures of the car. It still needs to have the paint finished. It will be TopSecret Gold, just like the engine bay and rear seat/trunk.

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Here are some pictures of the kit on my engine.


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Spool, spool, spool ?
I want to do this or a 40R or some big honker turbo. I like it!!!
1 Walbro or 2?

Pump, or race gas? Nice numbers... Bring on the graph :p

sweet job steiny gotta love dans work.. quick question about moving from the 650r to the 750r, is he just switching the wheel to 75lb/min wheel?? ohh and btw and all the questions the others have asked... great job..

What octane ?

i would say 104 octane.. dan posted about 2 or 3weeks ago about the same kit on a stock blocked sti making 509whp at 26psi on 104.. heres the link http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=749255

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This was on c16, on pump gas at 20 psi it made 420hp and 411foot pounds of torque. Could have run 23ps...and made over 450 hp but we ran out of the gas...so I went to race fuel instead.

ummm.........ur in heaven aren't ya?

So sweeeeet!!!!

So how does it feel when driving around "Like the Hand of God pushing you?"

Car is doing well. There's a LOT of power left on the table. I barely got started on the race fuel but we are having fuel pressure drop off. I suspect either the power wire (easy fix) or perhaps Eric check the pump assembly and make sure it is sealed up and not leaking back into the tank. On pump fuel I actually ran out of gas so 20 PSI is not as high as we are going to run. I expect to run 22-23 PSI on pump fuel easily. Eric has full boost by 3800 RPM despite the Magnus intake manifold which increases lag a tad.

pictures and dynographs please.

Congratulations!

Keep up the good work.

Phil
www.elementtuning.com

thats 2 500+whp cars for dan in the last 2 weeks. Steiny how soon do you plan to fix your problems and go to the 750r and get back to the dyno?? i would expect around 550whp with your current set up running properly. Dan what would you say with the 750r close to 600whp and how much more lag with the 75lb/min wheel?? Steiny do you plan on taking it to the track to get some times???

Please take that beast to the track... we need more fast subies backing up their great dyno numbers!

dont want to get off topic but ive been seeing alot of great numbers from numerous kits on sti's. but what i wanted to know about these huge turbo cars is besides the guys in PR running a 10.2 what have any of these other sti's done here in the states. Are they the only sti in the 10's?? i would hope not with all these gt35red and built blocked sti's...

dont want to get off topic but ive been seeing alot of great numbers from numerous kits on sti's. but what i wanted to know about these huge turbo cars is besides the guys in PR running a 10.2 what have any of these other sti's done here in the states. Are they the only sti in the 10's?? i would hope not with all these gt35red and built blocked sti's...

the tuner gladiel is good, but they are running a small shot of n20, and it doesnt seem like anyone else is running nitrous.

they have run 10s without it though. high 10s vs low 10s with the spray

Nice numbers, I cant wait to see it when you get the fuel issues sorted out.

I will be putting the turbo on this week. Then the car goes to paint. So the car will be on the dyno in three weeks. I will run the car at the track in 3 weeks. Just driving the car with pump gas is nuts. This car pulls so hard from 3600 to 6800 it makes you sick. I hope the car makes 600 with no nos. Only time will tell. Dan can you post the dyno sheets

I will be putting the turbo on this week. Then the car goes to paint. So the car will be on the dyno in three weeks. I will run the car at the track in 3 weeks. Just driving the car with pump gas is nuts. This car pulls so hard from 3600 to 6800 it makes you sick. I hope the car makes 600 with no nos. Only time will tell. Dan can you post the dyno sheets

Congrats, that will probably make you that fastest STi in the country!

Yowza.....those are some crazy numbers! Good luck!

What kind of RPM limit have you guys setup in this stroked beast?

How do you guys like the additional breathing of the Magnus intake? How much difference as opposed to the stocker?

i want pictures of the kit installed with the intake manifold. very exited to see that. im 100 percent sure of that, so dont lie, and just post the pics of your car+engine bay.

I will post the pics if some one will put them up for me. Some one send me an email address that will post them. Also I feel the intake has made a huge difference. A base lined sti with a 2.5 and the same turbo kit base line at 265. my car based lined at 350. The peake power is being made around 5700 rpm. from what I understand the increased displacement should lower the peake power but it has not. Ifeel it is do from the increased air flow but I really do not know. As far as rev limit, I can rev to about 7000 rpm and it is still pulling hard

jaredbnelson at hotmail dot com ill post em up

the tuner gladiel is good, but they are running a large shot of n20, and it doesnt seem like anyone else is running that much nitrous.

For the information we run 10 sec without and with nitrous. The fastest pass we have run are with a single fogger system and as you know a single fogger is for small dosis of Nos.
We are running less that 60hp of Nos .
I think that you need to define what you think as a large dose of NOS.


For other part Congratulation to the owner of the car for that HP.
As alway Crawford doing an excellent job on this motors.

Next step back up the Whp with times.

Gadiel

i was going to put a disclaimer on my statement gadiel sorry, 60 shot is not alot at all, ill edit my previous post.

jared

I will run the car as soon as I am finished with the paint. I have a sponsership that I must represent before I go any further with the car. I may run the car on the street map on friday which means I will only have 428 at the wheels. If it does not rain I will let you guys know the times. I will not be able to flat foot the car do to the fact that I am running the hydra and I do not have it hooked up yet.

Jared I will send the pics of the graphs and the motor tonight.

CONGRATS!!!

Whats the cubic inches on that motor?

Oh and actually I did 3 500 WHP setups in the last week. I have another coming in next week. Can't wait to hit 600 WHP on Eric's car. I know the 750 turbo can do it.

Its good to hear that your project has come to fruition :)

Good work Dan!

Eric, Iwill need a few pictures for my website :)

Quirt Crawford
www.crawfordperformance.com

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Pictures added.

Where are they added?

To the first post.

Thanks

Damn.... That looks just like my sbr dyno, just with a lot less hp and torque...

Got pics of the whole car?

that is a sick car. cant wait to see what it runs. yea i wanna see pics of the whole car.

Yea, I just need to upload them. Look for them later tonight.

Here's the sheet.
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wow, i can't even imagine how hard that thing must pull

CONGRATS!!!

Whats the cubic inches on that motor?

2.8 L = 170 cubic inches

conversion (http://www.4lo.com/calc/literstocid.htm)

sSuperflysteiny, how does the car drive? Do you have traction problems in 3-4K rpm range alot, even in 4th?

Help us out here, please :)

Hey Guys, what could cause the torque graph to fall of so rapidly? Lack of fuel or turbocharged air to hot or there is not enough air produce by the turbo to feed the engine?

It is very hard to get a flat torque curve with a Subaru motor.

Quirt Crawford
www.crawfordperformance.com

That intake manifold is sick.

hey eric, this is andy the guy that got on the dyno right after you. i should have taken you up on that ride you offerd me. mine made alot of hp but tq was down a little bit. but dan got me 10hp over what i was shooting for on pump and race fuel. i just can't say enough about the guys at godspeed they were great and i would recomend anyone to go there. erics car is going to be the sickest sti in the us in the next few weeks trust me i seen it and he told me what was going to be done to it. i can't wait to see it when its all done, you will have to email me some pics when its all back together.good luck hope to here from you soon.

p.s. dan has tuned three 500whp setups in the last week, he did two yesterday. :D

Uhm... 400 ft-lbs at 4000?!! I'm in heaven.....

This is actually the first engine bay shot I've seen of one of Dan's kits. Looking very nice... works perfectly with the 725 (good for me). Too bad they require standalone :(

Think you could possibly make it to the east coast for the evo vs wrx/sti shootout??

Jay

I know, but something is wrong there.It is almost like the engine ran out of air. Could be cams, or it could be the turbo not producing the volume of air needed.

absolutly crazy

Wow !! that's just silly amounts of power. You guys are getting up in the power to weight ratios that make it difficult to get enough tire under the car.

Good job to all involved!

It will be nice to see some strip times when you guys get the chance.

Larry

Pictures of the turbo kit and of my car have been added to the first page.

Pretty nice.

What size are those tires, they look too skinny for the wheel.

235. A 245 would have fit a lot better though.

Whats up andy thanks for the comments on the car. I am glad that your car made more power than you wanted. Keep me posted when you decide to build the motor. As far as everyone asking how it pulls its nuts. I think Nick aka rizzo posted pics of the entire car. I did not check the first post I will look. If not he will post them just be patient. It is raining here today so I will not be able to run the car tonight :(

The one that just happened 7 days ago? :confused:

Think you could possibly make it to the east coast for the evo vs wrx/sti shootout??

Jay

I believe he's talking about the one at Englishtown coming up.

We need some fast scoobs to represent and even up this smackdown.

Think you could possibly make it to the east coast for the evo vs wrx/sti shootout??

Jay

Why don't we wait and see how fast it is first ;)

KILLER!!! Those pics are so nice. I will have to come by and check that out. enjoy.

Didn't know about that one. I=newb.

I believe he's talking about the one at Englishtown coming up.

We need some fast scoobs to represent and even up this smackdown.

Nice! Congrats!

Jackie @ Wilkins Subaru

I'm speechless...I cant imagine how that must feel on the road

i just keep going back and staring atpics of this car, i love it! a question about the turbo kit, why is the WG mount ran up over the downpipe onto that side and then routed back into the downpipe? i sit because you ran out of room next to the firewall? id say that kit would be THE best thought out kit out there if that WG mounted right on the turbine housing. absolutely beautifull though! ive allways liked the turbo to sit way up higher, but that way you can use your own IC and pipes rather than having to get new ones like the other kits out there. beautifull fab work, beautifull design, beautifull paint, and awesome tuning. i cant wait for someone to come out with a 3 liter motor. might be impossible though. anyways, good job on the sti, this car seems to be a 600 whp car.

Uhm... 400 ft-lbs at 4000?!! I'm in heaven.....

This is actually the first engine bay shot I've seen of one of Dan's kits. Looking very nice... works perfectly with the 725 (good for me). Too bad they require standalone :(

You dont HAVE to run a standalone, unless you want to run the 4" inlet. Dan offers a 3.5" intake with a MAF housing with the kit. Which is what I have with my 520R Kit from Dan.

Dan's kit is the only kit out right now that uses a turbo with the wategate dump fitting on the exhaust housing itself. The turbo is said to spool very quickly and flow alot more air than the standard housings from Garrett. The housing used with Dan's kit is made of Stainless so it is much thiner material wise, while looking to be a small housing it actually flows quite a bit. No A/R specs are availible on the exhaust housing.

I am dying to get my kit installed, especially with everyone now posting their results with the kits. So far I havent seen any 520R kit post though.

That is definitely one sick looking car there!!!

-Matt

You are correct, you do not have to run the stand alone but you will have major problems with the idle on the car do to the maf being to close to the turbo. I know because I ran the utec for a few days and hated it. I put the hydra and she ran perfect. Of course that would be because dan spent hours setting up the stand alone. I will post new pics of the car when she is done being painted. Also as far as running a good time I have no problem saying this car will be in the 10's once the new set up is done. But I will post the stips as soon as I run it

the MAF only has to be about a foot away from the turbo if you have a bend that big in the pipe. i had so many problems for the longest time, and have tried MANY many intake configurations, dont you think they also have tried different combos in the course or their R and D? in looking at that intake tube, i say that the car rarely dies with the UTEC. that would be my guess. that bend is a huge contributor.

but thats just a calculation. maybe your car didnt idle because that MAF was way too huge idunno.

Hmmmm, have been looking at the Hydra and this thread is posting some interesting topics. So I might as well subscribe to it.

Nice power and super nice car. I love that Top secret gold....

Clark

Don't you need a harness bar for those harnesses???
I heard that if the harnesses are anchored low like that, the impact will telescope your spine. I read that in SCC.

Damn, I remember contemplating on buying that STi trunk/wing from you awhile back. Did you paint your car black and now deciding to paint it gold? Sweet numbers by the way!

Yes great numbers that power must feel unreal... I love the hole Gold and Black thing!! Major + in style points. I was wonderin did you install a new clutch with this kit? or is the OEM holdin up?

Too bad IRP was closed tonight.:(

Don't you need a harness bar for those harnesses???
I heard that if the harnesses are anchored low like that, the impact will telescope your spine. I read that in SCC.
i too have been told from a lot of racers and baja truck drivers never to mount harnesses to the floor. unless you put backing plates on which still isnt safe. correct me if im wrong though.

That car looks pretty hot. I'm sure we'll be seein a lot more of it in the mags soon. Just like the one Clark did a few months back. It's obvious this dude spent lots of time and money to get it to look so good. 512 is damn good, but didn't the car that Clark did put down something like 550 on the stock block with the same C16? Dan did say that there is more on the table, though. Can't wait to see what he can squeeze out of that 2.8. My DR65 is puttin down 424 on pump, can't wait to install my Magnus Manifold to see the difference it makes. I just may have to upgrade to that Crawford 2.8 after I see what Dan gets out of it.

I heard a rumor that Phil is headin down to PR, to do some tuning with the Hydra. Wonder what Gadiel will be able to squeeze out of his cars with the Hydra after a few weeks of playing with it. I'm sure we'll see the slips.

Dang its great so see all theres Wrx/STi with so much WHP... I belive clark got 513 and 527 with a safe tune on kingpins kit. Which was on a DynoJet, I thought the Dynopaks read way high but dont quote me on that. Yea i see mags in this dude future!! I cant wait to see the finial numbers on his 2.8 block keep us posted and great numbers

His computer is being fixed, so I will try to answer as many of these as I can.

Yes great numbers that power must feel unreal... I love the hole Gold and Black thing!! Major + in style points. I was wonderin did you install a new clutch with this kit? or is the OEM holdin up?
Yes, he is running an Exedy twin plate.


i too have been told from a lot of racers and baja truck drivers never to mount harnesses to the floor. unless you put backing plates on which still isnt safe. correct me if im wrong though.
It's not that you don't want to mount them to the floor, you just don't want to mount them at less than a 45* angle, and no more than a 90* angle in relation to the back of th seat. Where they are mounted is completely acceptable.

That car looks pretty hot. I'm sure we'll be seein a lot more of it in the mags soon. Just like the one Clark did a few months back. It's obvious this dude spent lots of time and money to get it to look so good. 512 is damn good, but didn't the car that Clark did put down something like 550 on the stock block with the same C16? Dan did say that there is more on the table, though. Can't wait to see what he can squeeze out of that 2.8. My DR65 is puttin down 424 on pump, can't wait to install my Magnus Manifold to see the difference it makes. I just may have to upgrade to that Crawford 2.8 after I see what Dan gets out of it.
The reason they had to stop where they did is because of the size of the fuel pump. If he had went with a Walbro pump, they could have continued tuning. The pump draws so much current that they need to upgrade the power line to an 8 gauge line because fuel pressure drops off.

Dang its great so see all theres Wrx/STi with so much WHP... I belive clark got 513 and 527 with a safe tune on kingpins kit. Which was on a DynoJet, I thought the Dynopaks read way high but dont quote me on that. Yea i see mags in this dude future!! I cant wait to see the finial numbers on his 2.8 block keep us posted and great numbers
From what I have been told, DynoJets generally read 20% higher than DynaPacks. I could be wrong, but then again that is what I was told.

We will need to get a stock STi baseline from each Tuner's dyno to see how they compare.

I heard a rumor that Phil is headin down to PR, to do some tuning with the Hydra. Wonder what Gadiel will be able to squeeze out of his cars with the Hydra after a few weeks of playing with it. I'm sure we'll see the slips.

12.1@118.4 on 93 octane. Street map. 1.9 60ft. with badly slippping clutch.

12.1@118.4 on 93 octane. Street map. 1.9 60ft. with badly slippping clutch.
Yes, Gadiel did that time with 420whp on pump and Hydra but it was two month ago! :o

Now I bealive he can do 11secs :devil:

Can anyone please verify the boost that Clark and Gadiel got their numbers with. I am almost sure it was higher than 25psi! And if I am not mistaken, full boost seems to be a little earlier with the Hydra tuned cars.

I heard a rumor that Phil is headin down to PR, to do some tuning with the Hydra. Wonder what Gadiel will be able to squeeze out of his cars with the Hydra after a few weeks of playing with it. I'm sure we'll see the slips.

At this moment I have 444whp at pump gas 93 oct. on my own STI.
I stop the search for more horsepower because I have problem with the stock clutch.
As soon I replace the clutch on my car you are going to see at least 450whp at pump gas 520+whp a VP. All this on stock motor.

Also soon I expext to reach near 700whp on the ther STI.

Gadiel

Can we keep this thread on topic?? :rolleyes:

-Matt

I agree...Aren't we supposed to be talking about how good Crawford's motor is. The man spends his life trying to advance racing... If there is ever a drag race that is restricted to the stock motor I guess there will be a lot of participants...
They should have a sub-heading under Power Bragging called "Power Bragging but Restricted to the Factory Motor"
If you want to play with the big boys you have to pay :lol: :lol:

Aside from the mechanical aspects being friggin awesome, I would keep the car black. Unless theres damage to the paint somewhere keep it black, I'm not a fan of the all gold exterior, the sections of gold you have now looks great.

Aside from the mechanical aspects being friggin awesome, I would keep the car black. Unless theres damage to the paint somewhere keep it black, I'm not a fan of the all gold exterior, the sections of gold you have now looks great.

He has already bought the paint and has the Varis body kit for it. He was considering leaving it black, until a bandsaw fell on it and messed up the fender and the front bumper.

Please tell me you don't drive that thing on the street with your "cage" :confused:

Wouldn't like to see the results of a side impact of you or your passengers...

Please tell me you don't drive that thing on the street with your "cage" :confused:

Wouldn't like to see the results of a side impact of you or your passengers...

Yes he does. And not that it makes it any different, but that "cage" is a Cusco cage. So it's not like it's some hack job.

What difference does it make whether or not there is a cage in there. If you get hit from the side with enough force to worry about the cage causing harm, then chances are pretty good you'll get fukced up without it.


I thought this was "Proven Power Bragging," not "Why'd You Do That You Dumbass?"

cool it guys!

that car wasnt built of passengers if i had to guess lol

Yes he does. And not that it makes it any different, but that "cage" is a Cusco cage. So it's not like it's some hack job.

I'm glad I got to see his Cusco cage installed. I was going to get one but I was just a lil nervous about how they looked. Now I am ok with it :D

All he is saying is that it's usually not that safe to have a roll cage in a street driven car. When driving on the street you don't wear a helmet like you would on a track and if your head hits the bar it's going to hurt pretty bad....

All he is saying is that it's usually not that safe to have a roll cage in a street driven car. When driving on the street you don't wear a helmet like you would on a track and if your head hits the bar it's going to hurt pretty bad....

That is an understatement. If you get in an accident and hit your head on the bar you will die, period.

Jon

That is an understatement. If you get in an accident and hit your head on the bar you will die, period.

Jon
quite messily

What Hood Is That????

At this moment I have 444whp at pump gas 93 oct. on my own STI.
I stop the search for more horsepower because I have problem with the stock clutch.
As soon I replace the clutch on my car you are going to see at least 450whp at pump gas 520+whp a VP. All this on stock motor.

Also soon I expext to reach near 700whp on the ther STI.

Gadiel
:eek: :huh: 450whp with pump gas in your car with stock internals
and a 700whp Big Valley STi!? :huh: :eek: Too much for me in one day, I'm not going to said a word.. ..

:eek: :huh: 450whp with pump gas in your car with stock internals
and a 700whp Big Valley STi!? :huh: :eek: Too much for me in one day, I'm not going to said a word.. ..

Not sure if you are posting in the wrong thread or just dont get it........


-Matt

damn....that is sweet. i love gold! haha. i'd say keep the car as is with the color scheme....black/gold. but everything looks sweet, and can't wait to see those times and the finished product!

All he is saying is that it's usually not that safe to have a roll cage in a street driven car. When driving on the street you don't wear a helmet like you would on a track and if your head hits the bar it's going to hurt pretty bad....

I would hope that the harnesses would keep you fairly secured in the seats...

How about some foam padding on that sucker?

At this moment I have 444whp at pump gas 93 oct. on my own STI.
I stop the search for more horsepower because I have problem with the stock clutch.
As soon I replace the clutch on my car you are going to see at least 450whp at pump gas 520+whp a VP. All this on stock motor.

Also soon I expext to reach near 700whp on the ther STI.

Gadielmaybe god be with you. Im hoping this can be achive . Good luck with everyting . :cool:

Most people I've seen drive with a cage do exactly that.

How about some foam padding on that sucker?

http://ken.eeic.org/bmw328is/harnessbar2.jpg

Sparco Harness Bar

Safer than the floor, thats for sure.

As for the roll cage danger. Over here we had a really great guy who was waiting to turn into the entrance of the track in his old track day Porsche (with roll cage) when an old lady behind him hit him (not too hard, she just didnt brake in time). It was a stupid fender bender. However, the impact made his head hit the roll cage, killing him on impact. A truly tragic death for a great guy who didnt deserve it. Just food for thought.

crap, did she get manslaughter?

Honestly dont know. We were too busy grieving for the guy to worry about that. He was an ex president of the local PCA chapter and a well respected road racer.

Nobody really faulted the lady. I saw the Porsche and the rear bumper had only a small dent. It was a simple ridiculous fender bender that should have easily been survived. She wasnt drunk, talking on her cell, senile, or anything like that. It should have been nothing but the combo of roll cage + harness on the street resulted in it being tragic. Made me rethink driving my caged Time Trial CRX to the track.

Just be careful with how you set up the roll cage if the car will be driven on the street guys. Wouldnt want that to happen to anybody else.

I wasn't being flippant when I made the comment about the rollbar causing fatalities in minor accidents when the occupant is not wearing a helmet and the bar isn't padded. As a Pre-Med student I volunteer at the local hospital and last summer we had a young man who was killed in his caged Civic when he was hit in the right rear corner by a car that the crash investigator estimated was travelling between 10 and 15mph........I can run that fast. It was an incredibly gruesome head wound too, I am still troubled by it when I see caged cars on the street.

Jon

I would hope that the harnesses would keep you fairly secured in the seats...

The problem is not your body, which the harness secures, but rather your head, which the harness does not. On the cage in this particular car, in any accident that involves lateral shock, your head could be snapped to the side where it may impact the bar. Regardless of how hard that plastic on the side of your B pillar feels, it gives a ton more than steel tubing.

Jon

PS: I am not trying to be a dick at all, I don't wish to see anyone hurt or worse.

Jon-

That is exactly what happened. He was just starting to turn into the track when he was hit from behind at precisely that moment in a diagonal angle. 10-15mph impact too. :(

very nice car, turbo, and numbers

That's a great setup, and great power from that 35R. Like Clark said, that gold paint is sweet. Those stainless steel exhaust housings (from FP?) are beautiful as well. Nice looking pluming in that wastegate as well. I'm very curious to see how you do in the 1/4 mile, as you should have a very wide poweband with that extra dispacement.

Cheers,

Jeff Sponaugle
PDXTuning.com

How much do you think you have invested?

That gold is beautiful, can't wait to see the car finished.

As far as the roll cage goes you can get killed if you hit your head on the bar. But this can be prevented if you drop the seat to the floor, as it is in my car. also the center loop must be behind the seats. I thank you guys for thinking of my safty but I have already thought of this. This car will not be driven everyday in a few months just raced and driven on the weekends so lets get back to the topic. As far as paint goes the car has to be gold for top secret.
Later Eric

You've gotta clear those headlights!

To be honest with the cost of the car I will have 55,000 in the car 17000 of that is in the motor and clutch. I have done the paint work and most of the install my self minus the motor because of the mis hap I had with my first motor. So i have saved alot of money. I figure if you had some one build the car it would cost close to 70000. That would include labor and parts plus the car. I will post pics of the car with the full carbon interior and paint in a week and a half. Hope you guys like it.
Later Eric

Head lights will be yellow, covered with rock blocker

Quirt's new billet crank?

Nice. I love the big motors. Put some boost in it, and let's make fun of Clark and his 9500 rpm wonders. :lol: J/K Clark.

sick numbers


crazy power

did sponsorship pay most of the build cost?

How much does a hydra ECU cost? And once you're at this level, why not go whole-hog with somthing like an Autronic?

Since when is Autronic "whole-hog"? It's good but I don't think they have one for the STI, yet. I think you mean MoTec. Here's some info for you on the Hydra:

http://www.elementtuning.com/main.htm

Noob here, is this on stock tranny too?

Noob here, is this on stock tranny too?

Yes. Stock 6-speed and diffs.

Since when is Autronic "whole-hog"? It's good but I don't think they have one for the STI, yet. I think you mean MoTec. Here's some info for you on the Hydra:

http://www.elementtuning.com/main.htm


Autronic is "whole hog" since obviously you didnt know that. The difference between them and Motec is price and reputation.
Do you really think that Hydra can do the same thing as Motec and Autronic?
If so guess people would rather pay 10K for Motecs and 7k for Autronic rather than pay 1K for the Hydra. And yes they do have one for STI :lol: :lol:
Trust people that have actually bought the stuff and not people who read websites..

Autronic is "whole hog" since obviously you didnt know that. The difference between them and Motec is price and reputation.
Do you really think that Hydra can do the same thing as Motec and Autronic?
If so guess people would rather pay 10K for Motecs and 7k for Autronic rather than pay 1K for the Hydra. And yes they do have one for STI
Trust people that have actually bought the stuff and not people who read websites..
Why the hell would you go pay that kind of money for the motec when the hydra will do the same job for less. Hay if you are made of money and can afford that more power to you. Please stop wasting peoples time with useless posts
Thanks Eric

Trust people that have actually bought the stuff and not people who read websites..
Have you tried a Hydra?

I didn't think so.

That power looks like it will be awesome. Are you planning on dragging the car or autoxing? There will be some good races in the east to bring that car to...maybe EVO-WRX challenge :banana:

i just ordered a motec system exhaust.

Car will be drag raced

Could the stock 6 speed stand 500+ wheel? :eek:

Car will be drag raced
Hope you will have some drag race videos from the track when you run...
always nice to see actual racing but since you live in Indianapolis I guess you wont be coming east with the car..... :(
Good luck with it anyway.... :p

what i dont understand is why only 25 psi???

read the thread youll see that they ran out of fuel.

gerber,

I got my Hydra on my STI back in December, as a matter of fact Phil tuned it for me. Oh and if you don't know who Phil is, he owns Element Tuning, the sole distributor for the Hydra. So, yes I am quite familiar with it. And as far as the Autronic, since SEMA they had been saying, it will be out in a week, it will be out next week. That was right from one of their largest dealers in New England. I actually contacted a retailer in AUS, and got the same message for a month, so I finally gave up. I haven't seen any posts on here from anyone that got one. And both of those dealers told me that the price will be about the same as the Hydra, but it doesn't come with a knock sensor. Hmmm, so which one do you own?

SFsteiny,

Did you get launch mode for your Hydra??? It's nice.

I need the launch mode still but I don't have time to put it on right now because the car is at paint.

gerber,

I got my Hydra on my STI back in December, as a matter of fact Phil tuned it for me. Oh and if you don't know who Phil is, he owns Element Tuning, the sole distributor for the Hydra. So, yes I am quite familiar with it. And as far as the Autronic, since SEMA they had been saying, it will be out in a week, it will be out next week. That was right from one of their largest dealers in New England. I actually contacted a retailer in AUS, and got the same message for a month, so I finally gave up. I haven't seen any posts on here from anyone that got one. And both of those dealers told me that the price will be about the same as the Hydra, but it doesn't come with a knock sensor. Hmmm, so which one do you own?

SFsteiny,

Did you get launch mode for your Hydra??? It's nice.

I tested a plug n play version of the Autronic on my car about a month or two ago. First one in the US, IIRC. Pretty nice interface. Do the ECU connectors differ from the STi to the WRX? If so, it was just the plain jane WRX board.

Not sure about the connectors, but I just spoke to Danny @ XX Tuning today. They are a huge Autronics dealer. And he just told me, no units for the US Sti's are out yet. So I don't know.

SFsteiny,

Something you may be interested in. I just got off the phone with ACPT in Cali. They make carbon fiber driveshafts. His employee has an 05 STI, that they just finished making one for. They're putting it on this week to test it. If all goes well, they'll be ready for sale mid-may. I'm trying to do a group buy of 10 or more. He says they'll be approx. $1500 and if we get at least that many guys, we may get 10-20 off. So if you're interested, PM me.

Later

Please don't paint the outside gold. For the love of all that is sacred and holy.

I actually think the gold on the inside looks really cool.

thats amazing!!!

congratulations, be safe!

So what are the advantages would the 2.8L have over the 2.65L I was wondering if the larger 2.8 would spool bigger turbos faster and produce more whp. I belive the PR guys are useing a 2.65!! So I am confused on which would be better

^^^yeah please explain cuz i just saw a 2.3 evo pull like a mad man from a roll^^^
oh and i'm guessing boost is going to increase dramatically after you get that fuel worked out right?

yes spooling bigger turbos is part of it, but it moslty comes down to a few things. first i guess its nice having a bigger motor around town, but secondly, the increased ability of the motor to make power. there is no replacement for displacement. if the 2.8 liter has 95 percent volumetric efficiency, and so does the 2.65, then the 2.8 is flowing more air, thus making more power. if i could have a 3 liter, id choose that over the 2.4 i have now, or the 2.65 or the 2.8.

I notice on the engine stand pics you had the sti intake manifold fitted and then at some stage changed over to the magnus manifold.
Was the change done due to a problem with flow or the possible expected gains from the magnus. What I'm saying is, is there dyno proof of a significant increase in power as claimed by the magnus guys. The price of the magnus manifold is pretty high. I'd like to see more numbers in comparison to the sti manifold.

First off yes I am interested in the drive shaft

Second I do not have any proof that the magnus intake made more power other than the fact that a 2.5 sti with the same kit made a base power of 265 at one bar. My car made 350 at one bar. Yes, I do have a 2.8 but from what I understand that should not increase hp just torque and spool. I could be wrong. Also the peak hp was moved to around 5700rpm which a stock sti with the stock manifold makes peak power at 5300. Now I could be wrong but this is what Dan told me. So the only explanation for this is the manifold. Also because the car is geting more air there is a little more lag but the increase displacement evens it out.

First off yes I am interested in the drive shaft

Second I do not have any proof that the magnus intake made more power other than the fact that a 2.5 sti with the same kit made a base power of 265 at one bar. My car made 350 at one bar. Yes, I do have a 2.8 but from what I understand that should not increase hp just torque and spool. I could be wrong. Also the peak hp was moved to around 5700rpm which a stock sti with the stock manifold makes peak power at 5300. Now I could be wrong but this is what Dan told me. So the only explanation for this is the manifold. Also because the car is geting more air there is a little more lag but the increase displacement evens it out.

Adding displacement will change both hp and torque. Remember that HP = Torque*RPM/5252. Thus, if you increase torque, you increase hp.

More displacement at the same pressure ratio is more air, more fuel, and more power. At low to medium RPMS, I would expect the torque and hp to be a near linear power gain relative to engine size. (2.8L is 12% more displacement, so you might expect 10% more torque). At higher RPM, the flow limits of the heads and cams might roll that down quite a bit.

None the less, you can really only compare across the same car, not two drasticlly different ones.

As for the location of power peak, that depends more on the cams, boost profile, and tune. A stock STI on our dyno hits peak HP at about 5700 rpm and holds that same hp until about 6300 rpm. A FP Green mapped STI gets peak HP at 7000rpm.

It may be more instructive to look at the location of peak torque, or more accuratly at the actual curves themselves.

Jeff

Thanks for clearing that up Jeff

Congratulations Eric, you've done a great job with your car. Have you had any head work done?? I would believe a set of aggressive cams combined with larger valve/ports, and a good port job would help flatten out the torque curve some. Look forward to seeing your track times!!


Autronic is "whole hog" since obviously you didnt know that. The difference between them and Motec is price and reputation.
Do you really think that Hydra can do the same thing as Motec and Autronic?
If so guess people would rather pay 10K for Motecs and 7k for Autronic rather than pay 1K for the Hydra. And yes they do have one for STI :lol: :lol:
Trust people that have actually bought the stuff and not people who read websites..


Since when does an Autronic cost 7K??? When I purchased my AEM the Autronic retailed for $1700, and the Motec M8 plug and play $2500. The Hydra does as much as the Autronic and possibly more. Neither one of them come close to the capabilities of the M8 Motec, when you talk top dog of ecu's you may want to refer to EFI technologies ;)

the tuner gladiel is good, but they are running a small shot of n20, and it doesnt seem like anyone else is running nitrous.

they have run 10s without it though. high 10s vs low 10s with the spray

Put Curt Brown behind the wheel of a 450-500hp sti, and i'll bet he drives it mid 10's :lol:

Put Curt Brown behind the wheel of a 450-500hp sti, and i'll bet he drives it mid 10's :lol:


Betcha he wouldn't! :)

I know Curt. He'd probably rip up the interior of the car in a fury at having to shift into fifth gear to finish the race. :lol:

Betcha he wouldn't! :)

I know Curt. He'd probably rip up the interior of the car in a fury at having to shift into fifth gear to finish the race. :lol:
I used to not have to make the shift into 5th cause we upped the red to 8500. BigValley's car is shifting into 6th even from what I read :eek:

I used to not have to make the shift into 5th cause we upped the red to 8500. BigValley's car is shifting into 6th even from what I read :eek:
They trap what high 130's---low 140's :confused: ....and with a bigger motor like they have its a must.
I think many of us wish we had that problem. :disco:

I got to say this about the magnus manifold. I saw one up and personal recently and that thing is about the ugliest thing I have ever seen. The welds are horrible looking. This isn't a diss on you at all :) I am just saying for $1000 I at least expected it to be better quality.

how do you like those recaro tomcats?

I'm still amazed by all that power on stock tranny, i thought it would have been long gone by now. (is it ur just lucky, or can stock tranny take that abuse no problem.)

Beleive me when i tell you that the tranny will hold, the only problem of the factory tranny is the gears, they are too shorts, and the driver need to bee fast to deal with that problem. B.T.W. your car looks amazing !!! Good luck and hope to see greate track numbers.

victor

For God Sakes Please Take It To The Track!! I Am Begging You!

Betcha he wouldn't! :)

I know Curt. He'd probably rip up the interior of the car in a fury at having to shift into fifth gear to finish the race. :lol:


LOL!!!!

Any updates?

I had it tunned on pump at 25psi on tuesday. I made 511. So we are taking it to have it tunned on c16 in a couple of weeks. It was again tunned by Dan at god speed

is 600 your goal? take that baby to 35 psi

I had it tunned on pump at 25psi on tuesday. I made 511. So we are taking it to have it tunned on c16 in a couple of weeks. It was again tunned by Dan at god speed

511 on pump gas is wild. Is that with methanol or alcohol injection or just straight pump no add ins?

Robert

thats supra power isnt it? what are good pump gas numbers for poopras?

thats supra power isnt it? what are good pump gas numbers for poopras?

That is supra pump gas power, but that 2.8 liter is nearly a supra size motor too though, lol. That's just incredible.

The 511 is with the alcohol

Is this alcohol or alcohol and water ?

If straight alcohol what system are you using ?

Man I can't wait to seee an update. :eek:

Thats alot of displacement for a 4 banger

it totally seems like it is, but when you think about it, the chevy 350 (5.7liters) would end up at 2.85 liters if it were a 4 cyl... then you have motors like the 454 and such, that would end up being over 3 liters with just 4 cylenders. Im thinking its a great way to make power with the subaru motor.

big numbers

great work, that engine bay is so sexy you should ride without a hood!! :banana: :banana:

I will be putting the turbo on this week. Then the car goes to paint. So the car will be on the dyno in three weeks. I will run the car at the track in 3 weeks. Just driving the car with pump gas is nuts. This car pulls so hard from 3600 to 6800 it makes you sick. I hope the car makes 600 with no nos. Only time will tell. Dan can you post the dyno sheets


Updates?

I'm interested in hearing about the GT3575 kit.

Any chance you could email pics to n2xlr8n@comcast.net ?

Thats alot of displacement for a 4 banger


944 had a 3.0ltr 4 cylinder :banana:

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ill start taking bets that this motor is blown up.

werd!

yeah, double or nothing, just about every time a car stops getting tons of coverage on the forums, its because it blew up.

ill start taking bets that this motor is blown up.
:eek: :lol:
Doesn't it always seem like it?..
I guess you never know.

Whats up guys. I am here to tell you that the motor did not blow up just don't feel like using the forum that much any more. I am tired of the flamers take care. The car mad 520hp 500 ft/lbs on 93 with alcohol. Getting ready to sell the car

Kinda sad to see people like this go.

Whats up guys. I am here to tell you that the motor did not blow up just don't feel like using the forum that much any more. I am tired of the flamers take care. The car mad 520hp 500 ft/lbs on 93 with alcohol. Getting ready to sell the car

Such a waste of money, IMO. Why do all of that work in the first place? Insecurity plays a huge role with most of the horsepower whores in here.

superfly did you ever change to the larger turbo? sounds like you didnt? that car is 100 percent capable of well over 600 at the wheels, dont you see that you could be a huge ground breaking history maker in this all? maybe its just that you dont care, or maybe the car broke your bank, liek mine did me.

Such a waste of money, IMO. Why do all of that work in the first place? Insecurity plays a huge role with most of the horsepower whores in here.

Waste of money? I call it a hobby. When I'm through building my car, I'lll drive it for a while, then sell it. The challenge is over.

Insecurity? :confused:

Waste of money? I call it a hobby. When I'm through building my car, I'lll drive it for a while, then sell it. The challenge is over.

Insecurity? :confused:
I have not driven mine for a few months now cause I was waiting to have enough jing for a new Tilton clutch. I look at it as it's never done you always have more to do ;)

gold car for gold teeth! What an unbelievable joke. Next he will make somebody's teeth gold and try to part it out.

Whats up guys. I am here to tell you that the motor did not blow up just don't feel like using the forum that much any more. I am tired of the flamers take care. The car mad 520hp 500 ft/lbs on 93 with alcohol. Getting ready to sell the car

hey eric, i can't believe you are going to sell that thing allready. you just got it done, why are you going to sell it?

selling it to get an STi you can actually drive? ;)

~v6

I thought you were going to take this thing to the track?

It has nothing to do with wanting to sell the car but I have too. It was not a waste of money and I have driven the **** out of the car. It is reliable but my dental practice is more important. When my practice is up and running I will move on to bigger and better things. I got the throttle fixed and fuel problem fixed just need to have it tunned again. This is exactly why I don't like this forum. For every down to earth person on here there is 10 azz holes that flame and talk crap. Yet they are the ones that put the bolt ons on there cars and think they are ballers. I have built a **** load of cars and if you think building a car is a waste of money then you are in it for the wrong reasons. I hate to tell you this but it is hard to make money on cars like these unless you get lucky. As far as the gold tooth reply. Bring your punk azz down to my practice and I will cap your teeth for you.

I dont understand why youre letting people on the internet bother you. Its like youre trying to blame flamers for making you want to get rid of the car.

It has nothing to do with wanting to sell the car but I have too. It was not a waste of money and I have driven the **** out of the car. It is reliable but my dental practice is more important. When my practice is up and running I will move on to bigger and better things. I got the throttle fixed and fuel problem fixed just need to have it tunned again. This is exactly why I don't like this forum. For every down to earth person on here there is 10 azz holes that flame and talk crap. Yet they are the ones that put the bolt ons on there cars and think they are ballers. I have built a **** load of cars and if you think building a car is a waste of money then you are in it for the wrong reasons. I hate to tell you this but it is hard to make money on cars like these unless you get lucky. As far as the gold tooth reply. Bring your punk azz down to my practice and I will cap your teeth for you.
haha you're a baller because 24k dipped your sti and stuck a bunch of money in it and now you're selling it to start a dental practice. What, did you just grow up overnight? The reason I laugh is you just spent all that money, will not recoup much of your investment (unless you have some special sponsorship) and selling it within a short period of time of announcing it. The bling that blings twice as bright lasts half as long. I agree that your practice is more important than your car and I'm glad you finally removed your medulla oblongata from your gluteus maximus. Maybe you could have size your project appropriately and have both the sti and the practice.

Oh and by the way I prefer composite fillings.

U can't let people off the net get to you.
I have gotten to know some of the nicest people,...and some some of the biggest jerk-offs....from some of the forums.

Too bad your sellin the car.

Best of luck with your practice.

Oh and by the way I prefer composite fillings.

Composite fillings? I had a tooth cracked by a poorly installed composite filling. It resulted in a root-canal. Don't know if it's the composite's fault, or the dentist's, but I think I'm gonna stay away from those.

Maybe I can sell my old composite filling in the for sale forums. If you're interested, just PM me. :lol: :banana:

hate to hear its up for sale man, but this **** does get old after awhile. always having your car down, fix one thing and something else breaks, ect.... its never ending. i know mine has been down more this year than its been on the road. good luck man, hope all is well w/ you.

Whats up Brandon take care hope all is well. This is my last post. As far as building the car and trying to recoupe my investment. If you read the post above I clearly stated I did not build the car to make money. I built it for the enjoyment of it. If you build a new car you can not expect to make money. And as far as my practice is concerned I am selling the car as means to help with the practice. And as far as composites are concerned they suck for the posterior portion of the mouth or in terms most will understand back of the mouth. They should only be used in the anterior portion for esthetic reasons. And they shoud always be place under ruber dam.
Peace out

As far as building the car and trying to recoupe my investment.

Obviously, the haters have never built anything....unless you count paying someone to do it for you.


If you read the post above I clearly stated I did not build the car to make money. I built it for the enjoyment of it. If you build a new car you can not expect to make money.

Exactly. Not only new cars. Unless you've built one, you don't understand.
You whiners go take a FI class or something. Christ.

S.

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HOw many 2.8L are actually up and running reliably? From the looks of the pics i've seen, those block walls look waaaaaaaaaaay too thin to be pushing big power 'reliably'?

Curious....

The problem I think is the money you have to shell out for the 2.8L.

wow how much r u selling the car for? im just curious

HOw many 2.8L are actually up and running reliably? From the looks of the pics i've seen, those block walls look waaaaaaaaaaay too thin to be pushing big power 'reliably'?

Curious....

It's a sleeved block. From the pics on Crawford's site they look plenty thick.

cars are not an "investment" thats the most ignorant way ive ever heard that word used.

HOw many 2.8L are actually up and running reliably? From the looks of the pics i've seen, those block walls look waaaaaaaaaaay too thin to be pushing big power 'reliably'?

Curious....

The R3 and the R4 run the same bore size using replaceable wet sleeves. I have yet to replace a sleeve in either motor. :)

Have you heard of Big Valley, 719whp ?

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?threadid=147303

http://forums.evolutionm.net/showthread.php?threadid=147303

didn't i just straighten you out here? :lol:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10316089&postcount=4

didn't i just straighten you out here? :lol:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=10316089&postcount=4


did you have a 4eat before? what are your impressions about the swap?

did you have a 4eat before? what are your impressions about the swap?

PM me. i don't want to derail this thread as it already has.