ValY2J
04-24-2005, 03:52 PM
What is the best oil filter out there? What kind do you use? I used to use fram but now use napa...
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View Full Version : Best Oil Filter ValY2J 04-24-2005, 03:52 PM What is the best oil filter out there? What kind do you use? I used to use fram but now use napa... wall of tvs 04-24-2005, 03:58 PM I use AMSOIL's SDF-20 filter with AMSOIL 5w-30 synthetic oil. greg donovan 04-24-2005, 04:00 PM OEM. its made by purolator. rumor has it the OEM filter is the same as the Pure one oil filter which is easily the best filter on the market. silver04rs 04-24-2005, 04:15 PM stock filter with Mobil-1 TygerStile 04-24-2005, 04:24 PM I've always used the OEM filters. I bought a case over a year ago, so I'm set for a while. Rhys 04-24-2005, 08:53 PM Wix or NAPA Gold. That's all I have used on all my cars for years. A friend is in the Cobra/Shelby club & one of the members (an engineer)did a complete test and they came out the best. Oh STP's came in 2nd. Rhys AndyH 04-24-2005, 09:19 PM Based on the STi oil filter comparison done over on IWS forum, I'm sticking with OEM. I think Purolator Pure One would be my second choice. fat angel 04-24-2005, 09:23 PM from things i've read the filter isnt as important as the oil. so pretty much any filter will be fine. one wont really be better than the other. DrD 04-24-2005, 10:45 PM OEM interesting pics from a guy who dissected pretty much all of the available aftermarket filters here: http://www.bescaredracing.com/sti/oil/filters/ jdm_sti 04-24-2005, 11:58 PM I've always used the OEM filters. I bought a case over a year ago, so I'm set for a while. Where did you buy your case of filters from? subaru? Charge 04-25-2005, 12:08 AM OEM. its made by purolator. rumor has it the OEM filter is the same as the Pure one oil filter which is easily the best filter on the market. I know that's true of the AA060 part, but I thought the AA080 and updated number AA100 part(found on the STI and Forrester XT, originally, then later became the replacement part for all turbo models and is found on all new models, even the NA...but not the listed replacement part) appeared to be from a different manufacturer? At least...that's what was said when the AA080 part first appeared...but I never heard who the suspected manufacturer was. Uncle Scotty 04-25-2005, 09:39 AM ....there is no reason to use the 'new' filter if you don't want to. ronf 04-25-2005, 11:11 AM I use AMSOIL's SDF-20 filter with AMSOIL 5w-30 synthetic oil. I thought it should be SDF-13. AndyH 04-25-2005, 11:52 AM from things i've read the filter isnt as important as the oil. so pretty much any filter will be fine. one wont really be better than the other. I disagree, I've seen enough oil filter "autopsy" photos of new, unused filters and also used filters to say that there is quite a difference in the construction quality of different oil filters. vvk 04-25-2005, 03:14 PM OEM filters are outstanding and inexpensive. If you have a problem with your filter, Subaru will cover your expenses. If you have a problem with aftermarket filter, you are out of luck. Happened to me :mad: gravel 04-25-2005, 04:02 PM There are even better filters available. Those made by Canton Racing can match or exceed the OEM filters down to about 20 micron particles, but the Canton filters maintain that efficiency down under 10 microns. The Canton filters also don't have a built in bypass, which in the oem filter is allowing cold oil to bypass the filter element - not a good idea if you ask me. The Canton elements are ~$10 each, but used in conjunction with a good synth oil can be changed at 7500 mile intervals or longer. The Canton spin on filter housing fits in the stock location. To change it, you simply remove it from the block, remove 1 end, pull the old element, put in new element, re-assemble filter housing, the put back on the car. Sure it takes longer - but you also have the opportunity to inspect the filter element. Hawk296 04-25-2005, 04:22 PM On my Subarus I have been using OEM, WIX and occasionally PureOne. They worked fine for me. MikeBuzzsaw 04-25-2005, 06:51 PM There was a test that showed that there really isn't really any difference between oil filters. But if you are paranoid, only use OEM. Unabomber 04-25-2005, 07:56 PM There's a sticky at the top of this forum that lists the best oil filter. The stickys are there for a reason... kettsupp 04-25-2005, 08:28 PM stock filter with Mobil-1 :banana: AndyH 04-26-2005, 08:39 AM There was a test that showed that there really isn't really any difference between oil filters. But if you are paranoid, only use OEM. Link? AWDfury 04-26-2005, 03:35 PM OIL FAQ http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=499177 this has testings of filters. http://www.oilfilterstudy.com/ its says purolator premium plus has good filtration capability and excellent flow. I been using SuperTech Filters from Walmart. its says its gotta average filtration and flows very well. AMSOIL and Mobil1 Filters also seem to rank high. FRAM sucks. santofontana 04-27-2005, 04:48 AM Baldwin Oversize with correct bypass (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718209&highlight=baldwin+oversize) Bishop 04-27-2005, 05:09 AM Where did you buy your case of filters from? subaru? last week of the sale.... http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=685496 The Deliverator 04-30-2005, 10:51 AM Baldwin Oversize with correct bypass (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=718209&highlight=baldwin+oversize) I picked up one of these baldwins a few weeks ago; it'll go in with my next oil change. Good price, nice specs, bigger filter... If I remember, I'll get an oil analysis done when I dump the current oil (k&n oil filter) and another when it's time to dump the oil that goes in with the baldwin. santofontana 04-30-2005, 08:43 PM If you want to compare oil filters, the best way is probably to do a particle count. These guys will do it: http://www.butler-machinery.com/services/product_support_oil.asp their base UOA is only $12, and I think they charge a little more for a particle count. dumdum 05-01-2005, 09:52 AM Wix or NAPA Gold. That's all I have used on all my cars for years. A friend is in the Cobra/Shelby club & one of the members (an engineer)did a complete test and they came out the best. Oh STP's came in 2nd. RhysAll the NAPA ones are made by Wix.Says right on the box :) santofontana 05-01-2005, 03:51 PM Wix's bypass setting for their subaru filter isnt correct: WIX gives you this if you cross ref 14460: Part Number: 51334 UPC Number: 765809513341 Principal Application: Acura (88-05), Chevrolet Spectrum (85-88), Dodge (91-96), Geo (89-93), Ford (88-96), Honda (72-05), Hyundai (89-05), Isuzu (85-04), Kia (01-05), Mercury (87-91), Mitsubishi (89-98), Subaru (87-05), Kioti, Kobelco, Komatsu, Kubota, Onan, Toro, Yanmar Diesel All Applications Style: Spin-On Lube Filter Service: Lube Type: Full Flow Media: Paper Height: 3.194 Outer Diameter Top: 3.252 Outer Diameter Bottom: Closed Thread Size: 20X1.5 MM By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11 Anti-Drain Back Valve: Yes OneOBS 05-01-2005, 03:58 PM Wix's bypass setting for their subaru filter isnt correct: By-Pass Valve Setting-PSI: 8-11 This is only an issue if: A - the filter is plugged, or B - you have the wrong weight oil in the engine. Remember, its differential oil pressure, not system oil pressure that activates the bypass valve. santofontana 05-01-2005, 04:00 PM I know what it is and it has been debated here many times before. How do you know how much resistance the oil filter is giving at 4000 rpm, cruising on the highway? jutjut 08-20-2005, 04:17 PM I've got an 03 WRX wagon, after all this, what is the best oil filter for the vehicle. Is it the Baldwin, the Wix, the Pure One, or the OEM? If so, what are the part numbers, I've seen so many different options? Thanks so much, Justin JnJassociates 08-21-2005, 08:19 AM Just wanted to mention Amsoil one more time... The SDF20 is what we use on WRX... We use what we sell and have been happy using Amsoil filters for about 10 years now on all our cars and trucks... Bryan HomerJay 08-22-2005, 01:29 AM The OEM is no longer Puralator. There is a link somewhere where a guy took all of them apart and rated them. The new OEM one got very good ratings. So Cal STI 08-22-2005, 02:03 AM Has any one out there use a "pink" STI oil filter from JDM? I saw one on Japan Parts, $23 for one +S&H! DrD 08-22-2005, 08:48 AM The OEM is no longer Puralator. looks like they might have switched back to a purolator filter for USDM http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=828979 hawksoob 08-22-2005, 11:18 AM I started out using Pure One. Went to Proline (Pep Boys branded Premium Plus), then tried a Walmart Supertech in attempts to save a few bucks. I'm back to Pure One. Perhaps I'm missing something as per causality, but I seem to have less lifter ticking with the Pure One. The others aren't worth the $2 savings; for me, anyway. kero 08-23-2005, 05:38 PM PUREONE IS 2nd and MOBILE is first. I read a 30 page article about oil and everything associated with it. After major tests and such the 2 above came out on top in terms of flow, protection, and longevity. Article was written by an oil technician. WolfPlayer 08-23-2005, 07:29 PM PUREONE IS 2nd and MOBILE is first. I read a 30 page article about oil and everything associated with it. After major tests and such the 2 above came out on top in terms of flow, protection, and longevity. Article was written by an oil technician. Those tests don't compare the mobil and pureone to the factory Subaru OEM oil filter. In my tests, the factory 080 and 100 came out far superior to the Mobil and PureOne. You would need to use an oversized Mobil or PureOne to get close to the filter capacity of the factory filter. t kero 08-23-2005, 08:28 PM Wolfplayer, okay, that is great to know, I was unaware that the suby filters are that good? How are the prices on the suby filters for the impreza if you know?? WolfPlayer 08-23-2005, 09:01 PM After looking at the 09A in the pics, it appears that YES - this new filter is made by the same manufacturers who make Purolator, ProLine, TotalGrip, etc. Here are my pics of the premium plus ... http://www.bescaredracing.com/sti/oil/filters/purolator/premplus/ Here are pics of the new filter (09A) that others have taken ... http://www.subiegal.com/images/misc/work/oil-filter-09A2.jpg http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4144 Moral of the story? Go out an buy as many of the 100's that you can find. Looks like the 09A is a downgrade! t HomerJay 08-24-2005, 10:39 AM I'm getting tired of the oil filter "musical chairs". I just bought 3 of the old style. Maybe I should just go buy a case of the old ones. :rolleyes: boost4life 08-24-2005, 02:12 PM I use the stock filter with mobil 1 It works great and I get 20% off at my local dealership:) jdmack05wrx 08-25-2005, 01:20 AM No one has mentioned the K&N filter, do they just suck and I've been wasting my money? I use K&N with Mobil 1 10W30. HomerJay 08-25-2005, 02:29 AM I use OEM filters w/ mobil 1 5w-30. I used to use 10w-30 for the summer, but it rarely gets over 100 degrees here so there really isn't a point. I think 5w-30 is recommended for our cars anyways. Oh yeah, save yourself a few pennies and go w/ OEM. specialev 08-25-2005, 03:36 AM I buy Bosch if I can find it becuase I like the way the box feels in my hand, but usually Fram (becuase it has that nifty wrinkle paint) and change every +/- 3k miles. As far as I can tell, it works fine. I will let you know when my engine dies many thousands and thousands of miles from now and we can all blame it on my poor oil filter choice, with me being the first to point fingers at Fram's bad filters. Nothing wrong with good old Fram. They have filtered a lot of oil. Does it really matter that much with a regular change? Probably not. Probably the only difference will be +/- 10k on total engine life, if that. And could that really be attributed to engine over the regular life span of one of these cars? Again, probably not. I think the important thing to take note of is the regular oil change. But to each his own, right? 2005wrx 08-25-2005, 04:44 AM i didnt know you had to change the filter :confused: specialev 08-25-2005, 04:45 AM i didnt know you had to change the filter :confused: You don't HAVE to. beastSTI 08-25-2005, 05:04 AM I use Fram oil filter from wal-mart and chevron 5w30 from costco in my STi... it runs like a champ with an occasional stutter when I first drive the first mile.. other than that... runs like a champ. WolfPlayer 08-26-2005, 04:03 PM OMGosh ... if you guys cut open a FRAM oil filter like I did then you would never ever use it again. Have some people still not seen my oil filter study!?!? Open my spreadsheet and compare the filter area/filter volume between the OEM 080, 100 filters and the FRAM. Make your own decision. http://www.bescaredracing.com/sti/oil/filters/sti_oil_filters.xls I have plenty of pictures too. Make sure you look at them. http://www.bescaredracing.com/sti/oil/filters/ t specialev 08-26-2005, 04:13 PM Wolfplayer, did you have a look at Bosch's filters yet? Ever? Just curious. singletrack 08-26-2005, 05:03 PM OMGosh ... if you guys cut open a FRAM oil filter like I did then you would never ever use it again. Have some people still not seen my oil filter study!?!? Open my spreadsheet and compare the filter area/filter volume between the OEM 080, 100 filters and the FRAM. Make your own decision. http://www.bescaredracing.com/sti/oil/filters/sti_oil_filters.xls I have plenty of pictures too. Make sure you look at them. http://www.bescaredracing.com/sti/oil/filters/ t Not to mention that one guy on i-club or clubwrx that had the fram break apart, clog his oil lines, and cost him a bearing : ( |