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fungo phil 08-02-2001, 04:10 AM Last week, in an unrelated posting, I suggested that Sport Wagon owners should have their own forum. I was politely told that there probably wasn’t enough interest in Sport Wagons to justify it. Well there certainly isn’t any interest from WRX or RS owners, but I’ll bet non-WRX Sport Wagon owners could find plenty to talk about. I note that Forester owners, all 49 of them, and SVX owners all 49 of them, have their own forums. There wasn’t a single SVX post today. Now I checked the members listings and I found that there are 454 Sport Wagon owners listed: 230 = WRX, 80 = L and TS, and 144 = Outback. This is even more than the Legacy forum at 324. Even if the WRX Sport Wagon owners spent most of their time in the WRX forums that still leaves 224 of us to participate in a Sport Wagon forum. Well Sport Wagon owners, what do you think about this? Others should feel free to add their comments as well. :p
APEXistud 08-02-2001, 08:29 AM Crap....that is an awesome idea!! Not enough interest, I feel like the Wagon owners are a very tight knit group, especially since we are so rare compared to our sedan counterparts. I just usually am only in the classifieds, midwest, bay area, turbo powertrain, wrx nontechnical forums. However, I would love to see a wagon forum. It would help sort out the small differences between all the coupes, sedans, and everything when it comes to certain things and give us an archive to search in so future wagon owners aren't asking the same types of questions.
By the way, this is subywan-kenobi, but my username is out of commission for some reason.
Mike S.
Kalins1 08-02-2001, 08:48 AM Well, if we were in Europe, we wagon owners would be ruling the board. Ha ha! :)
Americans don't take wagons seriously. Rice boys won't even race or look at mine because all they see is a station wagon and think I am a middle aged guy with two kids and a back end full of groceries.
Wagon owners unite and take over the world! Stuff all the dissenters in our rear compartment! Ha ha! Just joking.
Sean
narcotix 08-02-2001, 08:50 AM Agree! My vote is in! My chad is punched! Hear, hear!
Sport Wagon forum! Long roofers, unite!
Stubaru 08-02-2001, 08:53 AM I currently own an RS and am trying to get myself into a Sportswagon. I would definatly support this idea!
Stu
Subie Gal 08-02-2001, 09:18 AM and i wanna wagon to rally...
but i dunno if there's enough interest yet to have it's own forum????
good idea for the future tho!! definately!
j.
www.subiegal.com
omahasubaru 08-02-2001, 09:26 AM Just a joke but...
Well I feel that the coupes and sedan's get all meshed together as well. we should have a wagon forum, coupe forum, and sedan forum... Why not.
I think that everyone should be able to just filter in. It is an "Impreza" afterall.
I personally love wagons and if I get a WRX it will be a wagon (black).
However the differences are minute between the two so a seperate forum seems to be more work than it is worth. We're actually well split up now.
Legacy, SVX, Foresters have their own forums as they aren't Impreza's (I-club?).
:D I might change my tune if I owned one :D (nah.)
Jon
subywan-kenobi 08-02-2001, 09:36 AM Thank you for your continued support Jon!!:D
Mike S.
BigElm 08-02-2001, 09:46 AM I would vote for it....
Future wagon owner here...it would be nice to have a wagon forum to avoid confusion of sway bars (though it's been covered), handling, suspension and other stuff to add that can't be done to a sedan....
Just a thought...but definitely should be taken in consideration. Not to separate the i-club family but to help understand our cars better without the confusion of..."Is your car the sedan or wagon?" :p;)
In your count of 454 sport wagon owners you are forgetting the GT wagon owners! There are lots of them, even if some of them (myself included) moved to the WRX wagon. And I'd love to have a wagon forum, it might be more relevant than even the WRX forum in some ways as there are too many kids there into power and looks over practicality and fun.:p
subywan-kenobi 08-02-2001, 11:25 AM Hey, I resent that Alan, I am into power, looks, practicality, and fun all at the same time.:) However, my car is faster and better looking (sarcastic);) ;)
Mike S.
rktwgn 08-02-2001, 11:46 AM YES! Nothing more classic looking than the wagon, not to mention the practicality. It is a lovely little rocket. And it appeals to a more mature individual who appreciates good engineering but doesn't want to be so obvious.
WagonMonster 08-02-2001, 12:17 PM WagonWagonWagon!
Wagons Rule! We need our own Forum!!!
zoomzoom 08-02-2001, 12:19 PM Great idea! Let's see if the moderators will feel the same way... (please?) :)
STORER 08-02-2001, 12:24 PM I use to have an OBS. And I miss it. With a wagon there is no reason to get a DUI. If you get drunk at a bar or party you just have to fold down the seats and unroll your sleeping bag.
Steve
RidinLow 08-02-2001, 12:39 PM I have a wagon & I think we shouldn't get our own forum. There's already tons of different forums and the sedan's not all that different from a wagon!
fungo phil 08-02-2001, 01:15 PM ________________________________________________
I have a wagon & I think we shouldn't get our own forum. There's already tons of different forums and the sedan's not all that different from a wagon!
________________________________________________
Again, over the past couple of weeks , several people including myself have asked, "What is the difference between the RS and the TS?". I've asked because being new to the Subaru world I didn't know. A few of you were kind enough to list the differences for us, and I believe that there are enough differences to justify a separate forum. Bodies, wheels, suspension and several other things are unique to the wagon and the WRXers and RSers, are indifferent to these needs because what works for them doesn't work for the wagons. So far the responses are 7 to 1 in favor of a separate forum.
Technic 08-02-2001, 01:22 PM I have a wagon as well, I'm not sure what information would be posted in a wagon forum that couldn't be posted elsewhere. Maybe something about the little windows in the back. Or the rear wiper, yes the wiper, sedans and coupes are so jealous of that! Do the sedans have the neat storage tray thing under their trunk carpet? I'm just trying to think of possible posts for the wagon forum.
Technic
(Loves his little odd shaped windows and rear wiper)
Travis R 08-02-2001, 01:47 PM Originally posted by narcotix
Agree! My vote is in! My chad is punched! Hear, hear!
I'm sorry, it appears that you voted for a forum dedicated to jokes about Ross Perot's ears. Better luck next time. ;)
Seriously though, I'm not against the idea of a wagon forum. I can't tell you how many times I've waded through suspension threads looking for options for the wagon. If the Moderators say no then it's not a huge deal, but it would be nice.
Oh yeah and while we're at it I want a WRX wagon icon. The Forester (?!) and the OBS get one. But I don't want it head on, you can't tell what it is that way. I want it turned to the side, with the front wheels turned out, like it's in a power slide... and make it red with black tinted windows. Yeah, that should just about do it. Thanks :D
WRX4Lex 08-02-2001, 03:31 PM I'm still waiting a while before I get my wagon, but I think a wagon forum would be great. There are differences between the sedans and wagons, and this would make it much easier to find specific information. Go Wagons :cool:
bluesubie 08-02-2001, 03:46 PM This is getting crazy. I barley have time to check the board as it is. They create it and what's next?
Outback Sport Forum; TS Forum; Impreza L Wagon Forum; Legacy GT Wagon Forum; New Age Impreza Wagon Forum; Legacy GT-B Forum ... ?? :confused:
Dennis
One week or less till I get my wagon (it's on it's way), and I think it would be a great idea.
I vote for a Wagon forum or "The Other Impreza forum". All the OBS and 2.2L info gets lost or unnoticed in all the RS traffic.
The Yahoo and e-groups OBS forums seem to have decent traffic.
Ken
geo_rn_nj 08-02-2001, 09:31 PM how 02' outback sport folks are here?......hope to post pics of mine soon with my new wrx hood....:)
andyC 08-02-2001, 09:41 PM Oh yeah well there is pretty much no one to answer all of my 1.8 questions!! :p
just suffer. okay?
Kimbie 08-02-2001, 11:18 PM RandyF drives a MY00 Legacy GT Wagon and he is an intricate part of this group. He is also Co-Dir. of PNWSEC. He tends to only read the Legacy forum and on occasion the PNW forums. Talk to him about joining/creating a Wagon Forum, he'd love that.
K
22 Lou 08-03-2001, 02:33 AM no doubt about it. we have the best looking cars!...of course i am a teeny bit biased ;)
diff forum...i'm with garrick,i dunno if we need one, but if there was one i'd deff put it on my short list of forums to check at least once every few days :)
i actually have some pics my friend took with his digital camera yesterday. so i'll try to post em here, but i'm very computer-non-savy so if it doesn't work ignore this...heehee
PS: they were taken in the dark, and i have yet to wash the hood as i'm painting it next week, so excuse the appearance. :)
-Lou
edit: oh well the file was too big :(
Seamus 08-03-2001, 07:24 AM As a future Outback Sport owner, I'd also vote "yes" to a wagon forum.
While I enjoy reading posts on almost any subject related to Subaru, most of the info in the general forum does seem predominately about the WRX or the older (pre 2002) RS. And that's understandable, since that is where a lot of enthusiast interest lives.
But there are other folks out here too. Both Edmunds and Yahoo Clubs have OBS forums and, while I don't think those sites are quite the same as i-Club, there are quite a mumber of folks who participate in them. So I'd enjoy a forum related to the OBS and other wagons out there. In addition to providing a service to the wagon folks already here, you may pick new members as well.
Neil Wallerstein 08-03-2001, 08:52 AM Wagons HOOOO!!
awdwagon 08-03-2001, 10:15 AM yes we need a wagon forum,not that i post alot but when i do have question it would be easier to ask other wagonists
jaybird 08-03-2001, 10:25 AM Wagons Rule, but I'm not sure that we need a seperate forum. I wouldn't be totally against it either.
RRinDC 08-03-2001, 11:19 AM I'd like to see a wagon forum, and I'd take part in it. :D
I'd also like to see a forum devoted to the EJ22 engine, since there are significant differences between it and the EJ25. ;)
gugarci 08-03-2001, 01:29 PM I would defenitely visit a wagon forum. :)
fungo phil 08-03-2001, 02:06 PM Legacy GTs would certainly be welcome. I didn't include them because the Legacy has a forum of its own and most of the Legacys on the road seem to be wagons anyway, and this IS primarily an Impreza forum.:) :) :) :)
I too Would Love a Wagon forum it is a lil hard to find info for wagons like the OBS.
g6 Racing Team (http://members.home.net/g6racer/)
DigitalRonin 08-03-2001, 07:28 PM Id LOVE to see a forum for us Wagon drivers!
Count my vote in here. It'd be nice to see what everyone else has done with their wagons and the mods we can get away with!
Working on some myself now, I'll post them later...
iemonslice 08-03-2001, 08:26 PM a wagon forum would be nice..... so alla us with 2002 rex wags can bitch and moan about the unavailable aero kit!!
i dont hav a rex yet... but if all goes well, i will have a nice blue one by monday! yipp yipp
Zombie 08-03-2001, 09:25 PM Don't know about a new forum, but Technic how about how to install a boot light.:lol:
Zombie
stuckat1 08-04-2001, 03:32 AM I think its a great idea. Especially since I plan to trade in my RS for WRX wagon.
fungo phil 08-04-2001, 01:31 PM Well Mr President, and Moderators, how about a wagon forum? The response has been overwhelmingly positive. Only 2 negatives, a couple of neutrals, and all the rest VERY positive. I can even visualize a wagon making "Scooby of the Week." I know there will be more activity than either the Forester or SVX forums get.
Thanks for your consideration,
fungo phil :D
Ain't it a thing of beauty?
http://www.altekruge.com/subaru/sube2.jpg
Martin Ritchie 08-04-2001, 01:48 PM Wagons! I be in it!
AZ-GT 08-04-2001, 02:15 PM 98 GT Wagon here. Let's do it :p
subysouth 08-05-2001, 01:36 AM Maybe in a wagon forum someone can finally answer some of those annoying wagon specifec questions(such as how much those whiteline springs drop a legacy wagon-anyone????)
Sounds like a great idea to me!!:p
Longitude 08-05-2001, 01:47 PM I don't own a Wagon, but I'll support this! If only they made 2.5 wagon in 2000...
Man, I love that BRP wagon look. Was drooling at one at the Irvine Subaru dealership lot.
**Off-topic Q: Any 2.5TS owners de-badge yet? I want the badges for future 2.5RS-T project hehe. Please PM me thanks!**
--Long
nomadtw 08-05-2001, 03:54 PM i'm all for a wagon forum!!!! or at least a forum for the non 2.5l engine
Waffer 08-05-2001, 07:20 PM I've been following these boards for a week now, and I think it would be a great idea to have a wagon forum.
Frank_M 08-05-2001, 08:39 PM I like to see a Wagon forum as well
no such thing as Too Many forums
and it would help some of us, with sorting out the suspension differences, between the sedans and our cars
jwainwri 08-06-2001, 12:41 PM I think if it was limited to suspension, body and other wagon related issues it would be great. The engine stuff could stay in the tech section so threads wouldn't be repeated. repeated.
zoieee 08-06-2001, 01:39 PM Count this as another "yes" vote from a TS owner.
VT
SRI Performance 08-06-2001, 03:37 PM we need it too!
Just look under the members gallary forum and look at my rally car.
The post is "My rally Car"
It would be cool, hope it works
Chris
SRI Performance
Who says wagons can't rally...?
MGXsport 08-06-2001, 08:32 PM I love to wag my wagon!
http://members8.clubphoto.com/_cgi-bin/getImage.pl?imgID=5056481&trans=
Chris
Imprezard 08-06-2001, 08:44 PM I got a wagon too. But I don't see the need for its own forum.
After all it's still an Impreza, why isolates groups of people and make barriers to the communication between members?
For example, I may post a question in the wagon forum, while a coupe owner may have the answer but couldn't see the post.
I can't think of many topics that are "wagon-only"...."Help, my rear wiper doesn't work!"?
MGXsport 08-06-2001, 10:16 PM I think it's just cause there aren't many wagon owners that use the full potetial of their car.
It's cool to talk to people that have even further common issues between you and your favorite car.
Chris
DuneHopper 08-07-2001, 11:02 AM Yes to a wagon forum. It can be tough sifting out things like suspension set-ups for wagons, and info for EJ22 engines.
Also, I think wagon owners tend to use their Scoobies differently and have different priorities (hence why they got a wagon), and it would be kewl to swap ideas. We wagon owners used to unite and share in particular threads when there were only a few forums. Plus, I've got a couple nifty roof-rack mods that'll bore the trunk off of RS and WRX owners! :D
PhlypSide 08-07-2001, 11:58 AM :) it would be awesome to have a wagon forum.
wagon wagon wagon.
I think I'll post a thread with an actual poll in it so it's easier to count the affirm/reject votes.
lateRZ
PhlypSide 08-07-2001, 05:37 PM http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79601
Well...
I posted a poll about this out of sheer curiousity and was promptly crucified :) doh.
I guess some people don't understand that it's cool to hang out with people of similar interests, like say car ownership...
Who's to say that wagoneers don't wanna hang out? LOL
Oh wells...
lateRZ
Imprezard 08-07-2001, 11:02 PM Hum... you guys got a point. It would be nice to have one. I just hope different Subaru owners are not grouped and isolated...
subymamma 08-07-2001, 11:26 PM Wow! I'm seeing lots of names here I don't remember seeing before, coming right out of the woodwork.
Yes, in GENERAL, women, wagons, and auto transmissions kind of get shunned (however I did drive a manual until 3 months ago, for almost 30 years). However, several decent, concerned, and mature individuals exist here that keep me coming in and it's still always fun to read the posts and respond.
YES, some questions pertain ONLY to wagons. For instance on the OBS club there were posts about doing away with the rear hatch rattle some were experiencing, or about the wheel covers coming off all the time, about rigging a light for the back end of the wagon in pre-2002 models, about loud exhausts being very loud with the cavernous back ends that wagons usually provide to advantage, AND how to get the stupid crossbars off the roofrack with the screws rusted in.
I'm very sorry but there are several issues that pertain only to wagons and its obvious that people such as the ones speaking here have been lurking around and just not saying much because they don't feel what they say will be valid.
I want to take the opportunity to thank all those wonderful members here that take the time to graciously respond and answer questions that may not be "cool" from someone who may not seem very much like a peer. This is indeed the glue that keeps this club alive, not just a bunch of mods, speed, and vanity.
I frequent Edmunds and OBS club for their wagon forums as much as I come here....
22 Lou 08-08-2001, 01:20 AM how do you get the roof rack off with those screws rusted shut?!?!
-Lou (now changing his vote from a "no, but maybe" to a "yeah maybe") :)
nomadtw 08-08-2001, 02:02 AM i still wanna know how to get those friggin crossbars off w/o takin off the side rail bars as well, i wanna remove JUST the crossbars....
MGXsport 08-08-2001, 02:56 AM I want to remove those crossbars also! Wow we do need a seperate forum!
Chris
subymamma 08-09-2001, 09:39 AM OK, just saw what you guys said about the crossbars! Go to Yahoo clubs and type in Outback Sport. There's an Outback Sport club there and the search isn't easy to figure out, but you can try that or ask.
I have a 2002 OBS now and the crossbars came off easy. However, with my 2000 they just wouldn't and I read how to do it but my husband and I just looked at each other like, "Is it worth it"?... Then soon after I traded up to the 2002.
Those crossbars make it hell to wash, dry and wax the roof, don't they!
subywan-kenobi 08-09-2001, 09:48 AM I just wanted to say it was a valiant effort my fellow wagon owners, but it looks like this one is a lost cause:(
Mike S.
Beanboy 08-09-2001, 10:02 AM Just saw my first WRX wagon after about seeing 10 sedans... I want a wagon, and with three Impreza wagon models, it would be worth it to have their own forum. I'd like to know what the OBS suspension is like in comparision to the TS and WRX wagon for example.
-Beanboy
DuneHopper 08-09-2001, 11:31 AM Beanboy, I've yet to see someone post the stock spring rates for the OBS.
RRinDC 08-09-2001, 03:37 PM I posted info on how I removed the crossbars (with rusty screws) on my car on the Yahoo OBS Club over a year and a half ago. Lot's of good info over there, for Impreza wagon owners of all sorts. Check it out here (http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/subaruimprezaoutbacksport).
I removed the roof rack crossbars and ran into the same problem as you with one of the screws [it was rusted, and just spun in place]. You might try this: pry up the thick black plastic patch at each of the 4 corners of the longitudinal rails. Underneath are the screws that hold the whole rack to the roof. Remove these screws and lift the whole rack (crossbars and rails) off the roof as a unit. Remove the plastic end-caps from the rails. I jammed a long, rattail file down inside the rail to hold the loose threaded insert [the screw rusted to the insert and both turned freely in the crossbar] still while removing the crossbar mounting screw. It wasn't easy, but it worked.
Subymamma and other wagon fans: Well put. Unfortunately, I don't think women (if they aren't Subiegal ;) ) and drivers of wagons, 4EATs, 1.8 & 2.2 liter motors are ever gonna get much attention/interest/respect around here. :mad: That's just the way it is, this is a forum dominated by 2.5RS, and now WRX, elitists. :p I'm really grateful that i-club is here, I just think it (like anything) could be made better with a wagon forum, an EJ22 motor forum, a 4EAT forum... But that's a lot of work for the webmaster to set up, so I'll just continue to wade thru the useless (to me) stuff to find the nuggets. I suggest we wagon owners make sure to put "wagon" in the post title and/or body, if it's really wagon-specific, to facilitate searching. :D
DuneHopper 08-09-2001, 05:22 PM Hey RR, long time. You've been lurking at Yahoo, huh?
Good idea about putting "wagon" in the post title. It certainly got my attention in the two current posts.
As always, us putt-putt OBS'ers get no respect.;)
RRinDC 08-09-2001, 05:29 PM Lurkin, lurkin, lurkin,
Keep those dogies lurkin...RAWHIDE!
subymamma 08-09-2001, 05:37 PM Another idea: Let's just keep this thread going, every three or four days at the most, somebody just come on and say something, keep it at the top, in view, and even new folks with wagons will see it and drop in.
We'll make THIS our forum! Wagon owners, get it waggin' :lol:
On a more serious note, it would be interesting to see how the suspensions differ, etc. I've had a feeling that just with better tires MY car would do much better, but also wondered about lowering just a little.....
By the way, the easiest way I found to remove the crossbars was to trade it in for a 2002!!
Scoobyslack1 08-09-2001, 05:48 PM I hope to be joining the wagon set here in a year or two. It would be nice if they have an STi wagon when I get ready to but myself a new car. :D
black wagon w/black wheels
andrewk 08-09-2001, 06:12 PM good idea subymamma! this thread is easier to follow than the yahoo obs club.
does anyone have a spare wheel cover? :lol:
btw: the obs club has just surpassed 1000 members! thanks to mike m. of the sipp for creating that club. maybe he can convince the i-club to create a forum for us? mike?
lurkin in my wagon...;)
fungo phil 08-09-2001, 07:27 PM :D :p :D :p
subymamma 08-09-2001, 08:39 PM Scoobyslack: I know of a black wagon with silver wheels!! :D
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/paa65ae9df96e7b6f3f9862adb9a25e72/fe52f0bf.jpg
PhlypSide 08-09-2001, 10:18 PM Hey now, just because some of us drive WRX wagons doesn't mean we're any less as wagon fans...
lateRZ
"No WRX elitism need apply here, wagons... who needs SUVs???"
Ken Levin 08-09-2001, 11:03 PM Dont want another forum, thanks. This confirmed wagon owner (I sold a 96 Impreza Outback) votes NO.
The board has a terrific "search" feature. I think not enough people use it. ;)
subymamma 08-09-2001, 11:25 PM I agree about the search function. I use it quite a bit, and it's a wealth of information. But not much gets said here about wagons in specific because as we've proven here, alot of people just lurk around and to to Edmunds or OBS club instead of documenting much here.....
Most of the specific wagon info I've needed, I have picked up at those two club sites and not here.
fungo phil 08-09-2001, 11:33 PM Well Ken,
You can be glad this is a free country and nobody is going to force you to use any of the forums, and we will probably be glad that you've decided not to join us.
fungo phil :D
grumbly 08-10-2001, 04:28 PM I am one of those WRX elitists. The only difference is that I drive a WRX wagon. I would very much like to have a wagon forum. There problem is not a division of the boards but rather its about trying to direct your question or dialog to others who care about what you type. Right now I have to go hit up 3-4 different boards and scan through if I want to find questions and answers about wagons. By making another board we are not alienating anyone just grouping together all related questions into one place.
subymamma 08-10-2001, 05:12 PM I just saw a post under the Suspension, Tires, etc., section where someone was asking if WRX wheels would fit his older OBS. Here we have another wagon question, and I don't know if the guy was getting the help he needed, so I directed him here and hope he makes it........
Willman67 08-10-2001, 05:33 PM Its simply a matter of evolution. All of the protruding brown sedan/coupe owners simply have missed out in the genetic lottery this go around. Its shamefully obvious that wagon ownership is irrefutably the sign of existing at a higher state of being. But I ask my wagon brethren to be gentle with our "challenged" cousins because they may one day evolve...if not this lifetime....perhaps the next.
Give us....Us Free! Give us....Us Free! {Armistad}
Willman
95 Imprezza outback, 2.2L Auto
95 Impreza outback, 1.8 L 5spd
99 Outback sport, 2.2L 5spd
02 WRX sport wagon, WRB auto w/ 17" TD wheels
1970 Olds Vista Cruiser, Hurst option w/ 445 C.I. motor, ram air hood
Kevin Thomas 08-10-2001, 07:45 PM You all know wagons rule! I can't comment about having a different forum for it or not but if one existed, I'd definitely be checking it out in my forum travels. Good luck!
Ken Levin 08-10-2001, 08:08 PM Well fungo,
Since it's a free country, I can "join" a wagon forum or not, as I choose, whether you're glad or not. :rolleyes:
My earlier point being that there is plenty of wagon info on this board, readily available via the "search" function. Another forum might make finding information more difficult since relevant posts and information could be situated in a non-wagon forum. One would have to check an additional forum source or use "search" more often.
In any case, best of luck with the "wagon only" lobby. And Happy Motoring.
subymamma 08-10-2001, 11:41 PM Liberty, egality, fraternity
a la French Revolution..........
fungo phil 08-11-2001, 12:44 PM Hello All,
This thread begins with an outdated statement and I think we need to start the thread over with a more positive position. I will call the thread "Wagon Owners Info Sharing" where we can post pictures of our rides, ask questions, and hopefully receive useful answers. There are problems that are unique to the wagon as the last thread demonstrated, perhaps with this thread we can share what has worked for us and what hasn't. Peace to all, and as subymamma said: "Liberty, egality, fraternity."
fungo phil :p
Fogboy 08-11-2001, 01:28 PM Count me in!!!
:D :cool: :D
Ryan_OBS 08-21-2001, 01:07 AM I agree, great idea. We can use the search funcion, but especially for <2001 wagons, there are a lot of differences from the RS, and it's sometimes tough to dig through RS info to get OBS info....
narcotix 08-21-2001, 03:39 AM Just a little wagon story of our cross country drive...
We took of from Columbus, Ohio on August 10th, spent a few nights in Chicago, and headed west on the 90 with two coolers, two stuffed duffel bags, a full hiking size backpack, a camera bag, two pillows, two grocery bags full of snacks, a stack of blankets, a 12 pack of water, a six pack of ice tea, a laptop, her purse, a small gym bag full of AAA road guides and a RandMcnally atlas, forty CD's, two framed pictures we picked up at the art fair in Chicago, a bike pump, and an etrex GPS.
Still had a nice clear view to the rear window, security cover deployed all the while, and got great mileage (~24 to 26 mpg) along the whole way. Hit 125mph on many open stretches in South Dakota and Wyoming. Wife got a speeding ticket for 84 (she was actually going 98 !!!) in Nevada as we were headed out of Salt Lake. Saw Rushmore, Devil's Tower, Yellowstone (paint pots and old faithful), and headed west on I80 thru Reno.
Took a NON-paved, dirt and big rock strewn (maytag sized) two lane (i think) road for 5 miles on rout 189 south out of Grand Teton Nat'l forest and had to dodge house sized earth movers and dumptrucks.
Bugs were three layers deep on the front of the car and on the sideview mirrors, aforementioned dirt road left wagon looking like it had just passed thru a water splash and then into a stage of the safari rally.
Used more than two gallons of windshield wiper spray stuff.
Air conditioning worked great.
Intercooler stuffed full of bugs.....old toothbrush helps here.
Placing coolers on folded rear seat directlyu behind driver allows for easy access by passenger to drinks and food.
And that little sunvisor thingy above the rear view mirror DOES actually come in handy!!!!!
We arrived into San Francisco a few nights ago and are staying with parents for a while. Funny thing: another Silver WRX wagon is parked on our street!!!
Overall...what a great trip!!! It's a great car for two travelling across the country and the speed makes things immensely enjoyable on open stretches of highway. No problem with mountain passes or dirt roads at all!!!!
And a guy in Yellowstone actually came and tapped on our window remarking about how his WRB wagon at home as auch a blast to drive as well!!!
Off to sunny southern California (home for us at long last) in a few days via hiway 1!!! Big Sur here we come!!!!
Any other vacation, road trip stories?
Irvine Subaru 08-21-2001, 05:25 AM I have an OBS. Mine is a little on the high profile side as it's loud, has rally suspension and is normally covered in dirt.
I don't know about a totally seperate wagon forum...but it would be kind of cool.
Ryan
subymamma 08-21-2001, 08:51 AM Narcotix: All those rocks and stuff and not a single windshield ding? Wow!!
Down623 08-21-2001, 12:11 PM Well, I love the OBS, and hope to get one someday, but hey, why not get a hatchback forum too?
fungo phil 08-21-2001, 02:32 PM Ah! A three door hatchback just like mine. Different color though.
Down623 08-21-2001, 04:09 PM or a newer one...sorry about the sizes of the pics...had to shrink them, didnt know how small to go
RRinDC 08-21-2001, 04:53 PM Here's a wagon-specific question:
Where's the best place to attach the shoulder strap(s) of an aftermarket harness in an Impreza wagon? I won't use the rear seatbelt attachment points (underneath the rear seat cushion) because of the chance of spinal compression in a crash. I'm guessing I'd have to add an eyebolt somewhere on the "C" pillar, but has anybody actually done this and have any pointers? :confused:
Love those 3-door Impreza hatchbacks, BTW; think Subaru will ever make one? :rolleyes:
subymamma 08-21-2001, 04:58 PM Wow! Where was that picture taken of that silver 3-door? Is that a Japanese model we can't get?
Down623 08-21-2001, 05:25 PM No photoshop i asked for a while ago...guy named Shawn did them...not bad eh?
subymamma 08-23-2001, 08:27 AM yeah, that's a really good job... couldn't tell at all.
Hi wagoniers! Count me too.Good idea. Mike.
mr_disco 08-23-2001, 08:32 PM I think it's fair to say that a wagon forum would be more popular than the new review forum, or the Transmission forum.
dave1rr 08-23-2001, 10:28 PM I have a 1996 Impreza Outback Wagon, same suspension as L Wagon but with 4 wheel disc brakes. How do the wagon owners feel this would ride and handle with the struts, rear sway bar and front strut brace from a 98 2.5 RS?
Would I then have a 1996 2.2 RS Wagon? :D I'll just peel the Outback sticker off the back.
This thread really should be moved to the Wagon Forum. It's getting too long for the general forum. :)
Dave
wild4wheels 08-23-2001, 11:16 PM I'm all for it..Let's face it, WAGONS ARE HOT. That is why nearly all manufacturer's are putting them out. (Thanks to Subaru!) People are tired of the Sport Ute Craze, Like the Utility part of it, But where is the Sport? Even the Collector Car Market has seen massive jumps in value on classic wagons. We need a place to unite, then maybe the aftermarket will start catering to us too!
Wild
Oldcrow 11-09-2001, 07:00 PM better late than never....wagon...wagon...wagon
even though I don't have one yet....:D
I love my wagon. She deserves her own forum.
Secret Squirrel 11-10-2001, 01:51 AM a wagon forum would rock!! in the mean time is there any good sites w/ wagons that aren't rex's???
REHeck 11-10-2001, 09:29 AM Count me in for a wagon forum. I am new to the board, I have been reading alot, but this is my first post. It would be really great to be able to get information related to just my wagon.
WagonMaster 11-10-2001, 09:53 AM No, no, no! Much as I love my Wagon, for it's unique character and I don't want us to be estranged from the rest of the Impreza community.
Sure, we have narrow arches, tailgates and folding rear seats, but does that really make us different? No, we can certainly overcome these differences and live together peacefully with those less practical scoobies.
Wagon owners, I appeal to your sense of good judgement. The same good judgement which drew you to buying a Wagon in the first place. Let us not be lead astray by those with their own political agenda. Those same scoundrels would separate us by color (WRB, MBP, AW, SRP, BY and PS) if they could - like some type of Scooby apartheid. Let us continue on in peace and harmony with our sedan owning brothers and live happy in the knowledge that deep down, beneath the surface, where it really counts, we are all EJ20's.
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If the above sounds like BS, it is. I just don't want to have to click on another dang forum everyday. I spend at least an hour a day on I-club as it is...
Zombie 11-10-2001, 11:10 AM What about those of us with EJ 25, and are you saying i'am a half breed with my EJ22
zombie
PS
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ARTEFAKTO13 11-10-2001, 12:01 PM definently i love my wagon and its to much info to sort out the 2.5's and the wrx's we should have it for the wagon's
Levvy 11-10-2001, 05:18 PM So is the idea for a new forum dead??? I still think we should add one.
Anyway, I just got back from the dealer with my new '97 L Wagon!!!! I even got to race a civic on the way home :)
subymamma 11-10-2001, 09:03 PM Scooby apartheid... good one... :lol:
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