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DinoDoh
06-16-2005, 12:39 AM
new shots of interior and other options at impreza-net, the post url ends in 293

top link, hit "next" to to through the pages for different models

sorry i can't post shots or links yet not enough posts:(

WRSport
06-16-2005, 12:45 AM
?? the japanese impreza-net site or ?

DinoDoh
06-16-2005, 12:48 AM
yeah the japanese site

PHATsuby
06-16-2005, 12:52 AM
whoever finds them please post actual pics or links.

Ben

neuspeed
06-16-2005, 12:53 AM
http://www.impreza-net.com/top.html
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/p3.html
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/p2.html
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/p1.html
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/p4.html

neuspeed
06-16-2005, 12:57 AM
Click red link at bottom then click the 2005 link on next page

hyp36rmax
06-16-2005, 12:57 AM
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_008.jpg

http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_009.jpg

http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_010.jpg

http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_011.jpg

http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_012.jpg

http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_013.jpg

hyp36rmax
06-16-2005, 12:58 AM
Your welcome people..... :) thanks to the OG poster for linkin gus as well...

looks as if the wrx will have the high spoiler now too!

chairmandave
06-16-2005, 12:59 AM
First time posting images. Sorry if I f'it up:

http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_009.jpg
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_012.jpg
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_013.jpg
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_011.jpg
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_005.jpg
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_004.jpg

DinoDoh
06-16-2005, 01:04 AM
Thank you guys for posting the shots. Interesting to note is the beige interior on the low end 1.5 models, i wonder if we'll actually see that here in the 2.5i

Hopefully we'll get that spoiler option for the wrx and possibly the seats, but somehow i know SOA will mess it up.

littlej
06-16-2005, 01:05 AM
I don't know if this helps... just click on the last blue square on the far right hand side, on the top of the page. Then click on the picture (sti). It offers different colors of the car as well as something that looks like a catalog. Nice find dino.

sorry too late

PHATsuby
06-16-2005, 01:13 AM
thats cool i didnt realize they were bringing back the bug eye fender flares.

Ben

PoorGuysSTi
06-16-2005, 01:22 AM
Would be nice if we get those rims. :)

Phil Jr.
06-16-2005, 01:54 AM
why does the regular WRX have the blue interior, STi guages, STi wing, STi side splitters, STi sideskirts, etc etc?

WRXedUSA
06-16-2005, 02:19 AM
Notice the rear diffuser/blade on the STi model. I see the 2 tone interior. Seems they took a note from Saab's book.

I'm not a fan of the new design. Especially with the WRX model having the high rise spoiler.

fuzzycuffs
06-16-2005, 03:08 AM
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/index.html

Lots of new pics on the Japanese site too, including wallpapers like this one :banana:

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s3_m.jpg

fuzzycuffs
06-16-2005, 03:12 AM
And another... this time of just a regular WRX...

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/3_m.jpg

SubaruImpreza_power
06-16-2005, 03:15 AM
from that angle the car does not look bad..

captain_dingaling
06-16-2005, 03:21 AM
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/specc/mechanism/imgs/p3.jpg

im diggin that rear diffuser...

fuzzycuffs
06-16-2005, 03:24 AM
wait a sec...

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s5_s.jpg

No rear diffuser, and no STi badge... is that a regular WRX? Are they coming with the STi wing now?

SubaruImpreza_power
06-16-2005, 03:26 AM
that Subaru badge on the rear looks a little to large.

Wycked
06-16-2005, 03:30 AM
Car looks alot better in these pictures

hystikal
06-16-2005, 04:00 AM
Yeah, you know what, these pictures are much better than the autoshow pictures someone posted a few weeks ago when the official pics of the '06 came out.

Dooley
06-16-2005, 04:03 AM
wow if anyone is watching the new 06 impreza VIDEO .. check out that spec c version of it...

its worse than the 04's with morette head/tail lights... just pure nasty...

DinoDoh
06-16-2005, 04:18 AM
Actually going through Subaru Japan's site, it looks like the large spoiler on the wrx is optional.

MartinPhilip
06-16-2005, 05:07 AM
The 2006 Impreza is by far the best looking Impreza yet.
Including the unwanted offspring 9-2x.

ChrisL2
06-16-2005, 05:31 AM
Why or why, do the autoshow photos look crappy, and these look good. Guess it means I have to take a look at it in person to make a decisions.

I want the rear underbody diffuser though. I guess I could make it fit.

BlackStar
06-16-2005, 05:52 AM
Yes, the Wing on the WRX is optional.
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/lineup/02/index.html

au112
06-16-2005, 06:11 AM
The 2006 Impreza is by far the best looking Impreza yet.
Including the unwanted offspring 9-2x.

I think GC still looks better.

Carbon888
06-16-2005, 06:12 AM
wow, what an upgrade from the previous wrx. wayy nicer interior and exterior except the B9 grill. Looks more and more similar to it's brother now. way better looking rims then previous wrx.

flyinpig
06-16-2005, 06:34 AM
Fuji Heavy Industries Introduces Finely Tuned New Impreza Series

Tokyo, June 16, 2005 – Fuji Heavy Industries, Ltd. (FHI), a global manufacturer of transportation and aerospace-related products and the maker of Subaru automobiles, today announced the nationwide sales launch of its new Subaru Impreza series at Subaru dealerships throughout Japan.

The new Impreza has raised its product appeal by redefining its sporty looks and the drivability inherent to this model. Quality feel has been further enhanced while functionality has also been augmented in the newly designed front bumper, grille, and headlights, as well as in other interior and exterior design changes.

The Impreza WRX STI now boasts a maximum engine torque of 422 Nm (43.0 kg/m), nearly perfecting its already outstanding performance and drivability. The model also features an improved version of the driver’s control center differential (DCCD), an electronically controlled All Wheel Drive (AWD) system that adds a torque-sensitive, mechanical limited-slip differential (LSD). Balancing high levels of maneuverability and stability, it embodies driving pleasure. Impreza’s exterior designs have been made more fully aerodynamic, in recognition of its participation in high-speed rally events and motor sport activities.

Since 2003 FHI has been strengthening its support of the Subaru World Rally Team (SWRT), which takes part in the FIA World Rally Championship (WRC). FHI and SWRT have been closely working to improve on vehicle performance in rallying, to accumulate know-how with the feedback from rallying experience, and to apply that know-how and technology to the production of the Impreza base model.

From: http://www.fhi.co.jp/english/news/press/2005/05_06_16e.pdf

garie
06-16-2005, 06:36 AM
in the wrx wagon interior it has the 02-03 seats. You think they going back to the old seats?

AWDPilot
06-16-2005, 07:07 AM
Looks like all models get the illuminecent gauges as well as in the autos getting te sport shift option

AWDPilot
06-16-2005, 07:07 AM
in the wrx wagon interior it has the 02-03 seats. You think they going back to the old seats?

I think you're looking at the TS/RS, the wagon I see has the 04+ style seats in a different fabric

haven
06-16-2005, 07:09 AM
I wonder if you can get silver wheels on the Wrx instead of the gold that they are showing?

RedTRex
06-16-2005, 07:59 AM
Nice.

Jfrankon
06-16-2005, 08:12 AM
All you nay-sayers can piss off now. The car is hawt. :p Can't wait to see it in person! May have to give up my bug-eyes! :disco:

My two cents (after waiting and not prejudging from inital bad pics) ;)

lhsa
06-16-2005, 08:35 AM
check out this list. its the JDM STI accessory list. if anyone can read japanese, i'm sure we would love to have some translated pricing!

http://www.poweraxel.com/sti/news/news2005/sti050ex6.html

Shikamaru
06-16-2005, 08:41 AM
god damn I hope we get a roof vent, that'd be awesome

BigFatGeek
06-16-2005, 08:45 AM
Very cool pix, thanks for finding.

I, too, really like the new look. IMO, the '04/'05s look too bland (aside from the STI).

Can't wait to see it in person.

roffle
06-16-2005, 08:47 AM
are those the 3.0R JDM Wheels?

Jfrankon
06-16-2005, 08:47 AM
Nice..

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s8_s.jpg

dwx
06-16-2005, 08:49 AM
Those aren't accessories, that's just the current STI price list.

superspd8
06-16-2005, 08:51 AM
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/specc/mechanism/imgs/p3.jpg

im diggin that rear diffuser...

Yeh, but the wing is a real pain when you are backing up in an STi.

It is also perfectly positioned to hide cop car light bars.

Beaverboy
06-16-2005, 08:53 AM
Why or why, do the autoshow photos look crappy, and these look good. Guess it means I have to take a look at it in person to make a decisions.
Those were taken by an amature photographer with a cheap camera (with bad exposure settings) of a car flooded with stage lighting.. you could make a Ferrari look bad doing that. It flattened all the lines & details and made the dark spaces (grille) stand out more.

I still love my '99, but the '06 is the best looking Impreza yet. Now that you have something to compare it to, maybe some of you will come to see why so many of us think the '04s look like Hyundais. :disco:

superspd8
06-16-2005, 08:53 AM
Nice..

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s8_s.jpg

Is that a navigation package i see?

criz
06-16-2005, 08:53 AM
i'm waiting for that rear diffuser to be out for our model years! that is cool

flyinpig
06-16-2005, 09:00 AM
I wonder if you can get silver wheels on the Wrx instead of the gold that they are showing?
It looks like only the WRX Sportwagon gets silver wheels.
WRX Sedan gets gold 17x7.0
STI gets gold 17x8.0, optional gold BBS 17x8.0

Beaverboy
06-16-2005, 09:06 AM
wow if anyone is watching the new 06 impreza VIDEO .. check out that spec c version of it...

its worse than the 04's with morette head/tail lights... just pure nasty...
That's camouflage.. a bunch of white tape over the entire car... :rolleyes:

Nawambo
06-16-2005, 09:07 AM
More and more, I'm thinking this will be in my garage (Do'h, wait, I don't have a garage...err I mean this will be in my parking space :D ) - Gotta work on the better half to agree to it though.

And I believe, behind only the GC "king forever" design, this is the best, IMHO.

-Nawambo

I'm hoping for the blue on silver like my old 99 2.5RS. :banana:

subarurabbit
06-16-2005, 09:13 AM
i'm diggin the rear wiper...

amdmaxx
06-16-2005, 09:19 AM
Wow, I like 06...

Jfrankon
06-16-2005, 09:24 AM
Check out this link to video of Tommi Makinen testing the new impreza (includes snow/tarmac runs against "ghost" old impreza). It's in Japanese, but you get the point! :banana:

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/movies/mv_sedan_special.html


ps- I miss Tommi! :(

haven
06-16-2005, 09:24 AM
It looks like only the WRX Sportwagon gets silver wheels.
WRX Sedan gets gold 17x7.0
STI gets gold 17x8.0, optional gold BBS 17x8.0

I bet the US version silver will be an option like the current STI.

captclueless
06-16-2005, 09:25 AM
I believe I may be selling my jeep for one of these bad boys.

sasquatch95
06-16-2005, 09:25 AM
These pictures make the '06 look a lot better! It's still looks a little pontiac'ish. Now all we have to do is wait to see what SOA will strip off for us (roof vent, rear wiper, etc.)

Andrman
06-16-2005, 09:27 AM
This car is so sex. It kinda looks to me like the Brembo's are optional (they show one with STI under it and then another set of BBS's with Brembo's and nothing about STI). Anyone have any idea?

fireball_jones
06-16-2005, 09:31 AM
The gold/silver rim choice should be standard on the WRX... I really wished it was last year :(

Nawambo
06-16-2005, 09:32 AM
Please delete, made a mistake posting incorrect info.

Layman
06-16-2005, 09:34 AM
Looks like all models get the illuminecent gauges as well as in the autos getting te sport shift option

Really?

*drool*

Stickee
06-16-2005, 09:34 AM
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s1_m.jpg

Sir_Xenon
06-16-2005, 09:38 AM
No, no, no... I'm not convinced... the front end just kills it for me. I'll keep my bugeye till '08 major redesign.

flyinpig
06-16-2005, 09:45 AM
This car is so sex. It kinda looks to me like the Brembo's are optional (they show one with STI under it and then another set of BBS's with Brembo's and nothing about STI). Anyone have any idea?
You can get the STI with 16" or 17" tires.
With 16", you get 16" use 4pot front, and 15" use 2pot rear.
With 17", you get Brembos.

CapeRex
06-16-2005, 09:47 AM
wow, what an upgrade from the previous wrx. wayy nicer interior and exterior except the B9 grill. Looks more and more similar to it's brother now. way better looking rims then previous wrx.

Same interior as the 2005 model.....I can't believe how many people miss this.Also same as the 9-2X.

rsholland
06-16-2005, 09:47 AM
No, no, no... I'm not convinced... the front end just kills it for me. I'll keep my bugeye till '08 major redesign.

The front end, which you hate, will be on the '08 models too. The rest of the car will change (most likely to a hatchback format).

Bob

CapeRex
06-16-2005, 09:50 AM
thats cool i didnt realize they were bringing back the bug eye fender flares.

Ben

Bringing back??? They never left!


http://www.nmnetsys.net/hosted/thu7.jpg

rsholland
06-16-2005, 09:51 AM
I think Subaru did a very good job of grafting this new look onto an old platform. That's difficult to do well, and I think FHI pulled it off.

I can't wait to see the all-new '08 models!

Bob

CapeRex
06-16-2005, 09:52 AM
I like the 06..it is progressive and a little Legacy-like up front,not as butch-looking as previous cars....but that was something I also liked,the blunt aggressiveness.I think they are trying to smooth their way into the full redesign,which will be more streamlined than ever probably.

I DON'T like the taillights.

Scooby-Doode
06-16-2005, 09:56 AM
I just would love to have the following in my 05'

1) REAR WIPER!!!
2) REAR DIFFUSER!!

Nawambo
06-16-2005, 09:59 AM
The rest of the car will change (most likely to a hatchback format).

Bob

That's one more reason for me to get the 06 -
Add to that the possibility of losing the "impreza" name.

Mike Wevrick
06-16-2005, 10:02 AM
not bad ... rear wiper is unlikely; ditto for roof scoop

Sir_Xenon
06-16-2005, 10:09 AM
I doubt people will stand for this front end... like the original Bugeye I bet the front end will go through some "tweeks"

Layman
06-16-2005, 10:13 AM
I doubt people will stand for this front end... like the original Bugeye I bet the front end will go through some "tweeks"

Honestly, I think you're 100% wrong.

The only people bitching about the front end are bugeye owners, which as we all know, was a flop based on world-wide sales.

The new look is far more agressive and modern looking. Posting over and over again about how "people won't like it" won't make it true. Try posting about how you don't like it.




On another note, it looks like the STi gets projector headlights, which is a nice addition.

Stickee
06-16-2005, 10:15 AM
Honestly, I think you're 100% wrong.

The only people bitching about the front end are bugeye owners, which as we all know, was a flop based on world-wide sales.

The new look is far more agressive and modern looking. Posting over and over again about how "people won't like it" won't make it true. Try posting about how you don't like it.




On another note, it looks like the STi gets projector headlights, which is a nice addition.
04/05 owners will also complain...

flyinpig
06-16-2005, 10:15 AM
I like the front end, but to me it doesnt mesh well with the current Impreza style. Did Subaru make the car 2" longer to make the new spread wing grill fit?

But on paper the new JDM Impreza includes many improvements over the old one. Even though USDM specs will be different it should be a better performing car than its predecessors. I think the next-gen Impreza will have slicker styling~ And hopefully trimmer. :D

Layman
06-16-2005, 10:18 AM
04/05 owners will also complain...

They don't seem to be doing so as much.

Sir_Xenon
06-16-2005, 10:21 AM
I think the front overhang, specifically at the bottom edge of the bumper is too long.

I think the center "nose" is too contrived and does not mesh with the rest of the car.

I think the front doesn't look aggressive, especially the lights. I changed out my original bugeye lights to JDM to take the "happy"-ness out of the front end.

Style and beauty is highly subjective, to be sure, and I only state my own opinion, bugeye or not.

NYCshopper
06-16-2005, 10:21 AM
Subaru has issued the following press release:



Fuji Heavy Industries, Ltd. (FHI), a global manufacturer of transportation and aerospace-related products and the maker of Subaru automobiles, today announced the nationwide sales launch of its new Subaru Impreza series at Subaru dealerships throughout Japan.

The new Impreza has raised its product appeal by redefining its sporty looks and the drivability inherent to this model. Quality feel has been further enhanced while functionality has also been augmented in the newly designed front bumper, grille, and headlights, as well as in other interior and exterior design changes.

The Impreza WRX STI now boasts a maximum engine torque of 422 Nm (43.0 kg/m), nearly perfecting its already outstanding performance and drivability. The model also features an improved version of the driver’s control center differential (DCCD), an electronically controlled All Wheel Drive (AWD) system that adds a torque-sensitive, mechanical limited-slip differential (LSD). Balancing high levels of maneuverability and stability, it embodies driving pleasure. Impreza’s exterior designs have been made more fully aerodynamic, in recognition of its participation in high-speed rally events and motor sport activities.

Since 2003 FHI has been strengthening its support of the Subaru World Rally Team (SWRT), which takes part in the FIA World Rally Championship (WRC). FHI and SWRT have been closely working to improve on vehicle performance in rallying, to accumulate know-how with the feedback from rallying experience, and to apply that know-how and technology to the production of the Impreza base model.

Layman
06-16-2005, 10:24 AM
Style and beauty is highly subjective, to be sure, and I only state my own opinion, bugeye or not.

Fair enough.

I just get tired of reading authoritative statements on how people will react that are, in fact, based on nothing other than the author's opinion and pure speculation.

It's obviously not just you. ;)

rsholland
06-16-2005, 10:26 AM
I just get tired of reading authoritative statements on how people will react that are, in fact, based on nothing other than the author's opinion and pure speculation.

Thank you.

Bob

flyinpig
06-16-2005, 10:31 AM
Anyone notice the name change?

From STi -> STI now

Layman
06-16-2005, 10:33 AM
Anyone notice the name change?

From STi -> STI now

:huh:

The logos are the same.

rsholland
06-16-2005, 10:35 AM
http://www.japanesecarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2050616.001

Bob

Subaru-aholic
06-16-2005, 10:35 AM
Anyone notice the name change?

From STi -> STI now

Yup, the people at Subaru Canada were informed of that change some time ago. It was just for the sake of clarity, so there wouldn't be confusion between STI the company and STi the car.

Regardless of the name, I have to say I am loving the new look.

hyp36rmax
06-16-2005, 10:36 AM
WRC anyone!?

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/specc/mechanism/imgs/p7.jpg

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/specc/mechanism/imgs/p8.jpg

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/spirit/03/imgs/w1.jpg

Stickee
06-16-2005, 10:38 AM
http://www.japanesecarfans.com/news/2050616.001/2050616.001.Mini2L.jpg

Silver_04_WRX_SC
06-16-2005, 11:09 AM
Photoshopped some different color rims on the cars, and I think the silver/silver looks HOT!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/jwright77/wrxwithsilverrims.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/jwright77/wrxwithpowdercoatedrims.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/jwright77/stiwithsilverrims.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/jwright77/bluestiwithsilverrims.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/jwright77/redwagon.jpg

mkalbarc
06-16-2005, 11:21 AM
It looks gei. BUT, it's still a beast underneath so it's all good.

dwx
06-16-2005, 11:22 AM
RE: DCCD changes

I don't know if anyone else caught this, but they changed the way the DCCD operates quite a bit. I'm just going by a babelfish translation but it looks like they are now using a torsen mechanical center diff as opposed to the electromechanical lsd in the older DCCD units (EMCD). They also changed the torque split from 65R:35F to 59R:41F. The other thing is it now has a steering wheel sensor that adjusts the DCCD based on the steering input. That could also be contrived as the yaw rate sensor, but it seems like something new given the literature.

The JDM 2L also puts out 310 ft-lbs of torque now.

Borti
06-16-2005, 11:23 AM
much sexier pictures, car looks 100% better. I just can't believe it gained 50+ lbs. :(

Borti
06-16-2005, 11:26 AM
The front end, which you hate, will be on the '08 models too. The rest of the car will change (most likely to a hatchback format).

Bob

It is true, I have seen the hatch concepts.

WRXBob
06-16-2005, 11:32 AM
This new Subaru styling looks gaudy and tacked on. It will more likely a laughing stock for people still on the side line that does not understand the car capability. And a jewel for the ricer people who likes tacked on plastic. Sale will surge at first and Subaru would have to give it away with huge incentive. As a Subaru fan, this is a sad time.

SubeSTIle
06-16-2005, 11:39 AM
im kinda curious to see what the optional fog lights, if any, will look like for the sti

kage
06-16-2005, 11:44 AM
It is true, I have seen the hatch concepts.
Pics or b4rn!!

Bob, you're such a tease. If you can't provide pics, at least provide an opinion. ;)

kage
06-16-2005, 11:44 AM
This new Subaru styling looks gaudy and tacked on. It will more likely a laughing stock for people still on the side line that does not understand the car capability. And a jewel for the ricer people who likes tacked on plastic. Sale will surge at first and Subaru would have to give it away with huge incentive. As a Subaru fan, this is a sad time.
Another oracle speaks! Forsooth, he tells of the future!

Subaru-aholic
06-16-2005, 11:45 AM
This new Subaru styling looks gaudy and tacked on. It will more likely a laughing stock for people still on the side line that does not understand the car capability. And a jewel for the ricer people who likes tacked on plastic. Sale will surge at first and Subaru would have to give it away with huge incentive. As a Subaru fan, this is a sad time.

While styling is certainly subjective and you are more than entitled to your opinion, when you see the vehicle in person, the new front fascia does not look "tacked on". Up close, it is quite attractive and smoothly integrated. Besides, considering this is just a refreshening before the all-new Impreza comes out in 2008, they have made some impressive technological changes and changes to the standard equipment. While the styling may not be your cup of tea, calling this a "sad time" is overly dramatic and FAR from the truth. It's ok to express your displeasure, but let's try to keep some semblance of sanity around here, ok?

GuyLR
06-16-2005, 11:50 AM
I think those photos really make it look better than the '02-'05 GDs. More sophisticated than the Bugeyes and smoother and more integrated than the the Tear Eyes. They are transitioning us to the GE total redesign. They've given us a little shock now for better acceptance later. I like it.

kic
06-16-2005, 11:50 AM
Having seen the new pics, I'm glad I've waited for the 06. I'm still not sold on the rear windshield wing, but who knows what will make it to USDM? That's what's going to suck -- waiting for the USDM specs/changes.

Still, I'm feeling good about the decision now. These pictures are much better at showing off the car. Too bad I won't be able to get one as soon as they're out.

rsholland
06-16-2005, 11:50 AM
Pics or b4rn!!

Bob, you're such a tease. If you can't provide pics, at least provide an opinion. ;)

Not me, Borti.

Bob

quentinberg007
06-16-2005, 11:50 AM
Wow. These pictures paint a whole different picture of the new front end. I like it. I like it quite a lot. I can't wait to see what is offered as the USDM model... especially wheels. I'm not feeling the look of those 17" wheels shown on the WRX model.

~~Quentin

kage
06-16-2005, 11:52 AM
Not me, Borti.

Bob
Whoops, saw your name in the quote and got confused.

Phil Jr.
06-16-2005, 11:58 AM
still looks like crap IMO. And hey, look at that, I own an 05....

1) REAR WIPER!!!

They have always had rear wipers, its just that SOA likes to hate America and not give us the real goods. ;)

n2xlr8n
06-16-2005, 12:03 PM
Love the rear.

Love the front....minus the grill.

Would it be enough to prevent me from buying one? Yep.

CapeRex
06-16-2005, 12:05 PM
Guess we probably won't be getting the UKDM/JDM 17"s that everyone loves...we'll probably get these (on the WRX)...they're ok but nothing special.

WRXPRESS
06-16-2005, 12:30 PM
I like the headlights...not too thrilled about the grill and hate the tail lights.
Overall it is ok but I am happier with my '04

STI Orenji
06-16-2005, 01:01 PM
It looks a lot better than my '04 with the exception of the tail lights...much more integrated and sleek looking. Very aggressive. I think it will appeal more to the general public than the outgoing model. Maybe this redesign will give the RS some steam in the entry level market.

Layman
06-16-2005, 01:02 PM
Another oracle speaks! Forsooth, he tells of the future!

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Layman
06-16-2005, 01:09 PM
Maybe this redesign will give the RS some steam in the entry level market.

That's a really good point - I hadn't thought of that.

It does look something like a P5, which is a good thing, IMO.

Achilles38WRX
06-16-2005, 01:21 PM
these new pictures make the car look a lot better. the black wagon picture is pretty sweet.

JJ26
06-16-2005, 01:38 PM
See I don't care so much about the looks, even though the only thing I like are the new headlights, the new under the skin changes are what interests me. That video showing the current to the new is really interesting. They did that super-imposing of the two cars, kinda like what they do in World Cup skiing which is really neat to watch (well for me at least, former ski racer here). The new DCCD is what I want to know more about.

One thing I don't like is the new hood scope, not agressive looking compared to the current one. I like how it leans forward like its gonna eat the car in front of it. :devil:

_mo_
06-16-2005, 01:41 PM
Bringing back??? They never left!


http://www.nmnetsys.net/hosted/thu7.jpg

Actually, if you look at the front fenders from the '02/03 and the '04/05 you'll see that they are different. In 04 they gave the front fender blisters more of an edge in order to match with the redisigned front end. Unfortunatly they didn't to the same to the rear blisters, which added to the feeling that the front end of the '04 was "tacked on" to the existing look.

In these pictures it looks like they have gone back to the more rounded front fender blisters like the '02/03. I think it will flow much better with the overall car.

Oh, and this is one bugeye owner who is crazy about the new look.

MrDestructo
06-16-2005, 01:43 PM
I wonder what parts of all this stuff will make it on the USDM version...

fuzzycuffs
06-16-2005, 01:51 PM
watching the video, it seems like the DCCD got a revamp and will be the major functional difference between the 05 and 06.

Makkinen seemed to say it was more stable, especially on slippery surfaces, and came out of turns and slalom faster.

dwx
06-16-2005, 02:03 PM
watching the video, it seems like the DCCD got a revamp and will be the major functional difference between the 05 and 06.

Makkinen seemed to say it was more stable, especially on slippery surfaces, and came out of turns and slalom faster.


Heh see post #89.

kennyvb
06-16-2005, 02:09 PM
status quo: gc = peanut > bugeye > pigface (06)

Godfather Inc 03
06-16-2005, 02:13 PM
is the ameican version going to have right side drive to?

Layman
06-16-2005, 02:14 PM
is the ameican version going to have right side drive to?

I'm going to guess "no" on this one.

kpalena
06-16-2005, 02:15 PM
I've said it before and I'll say it again. I freaking love it. :banana:

justbcuz
06-16-2005, 02:16 PM
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_008.jpg

Look at the top of this picture, the description above the silver STi says TWIN SCROLL TURBO!!!!!!!!:devil:

Jarvis
06-16-2005, 02:18 PM
Japan still uses the 2.0 liter, and, yes, they have the twin-scroll on that engine.

Jim

aren040
06-16-2005, 02:19 PM
Not bad at all. I guess I will have to eat my words. I must say it is a good looking car... sort of. But alas its not for me. I kind of like the simple looks of the 04/05. Kind of keeps people away from the car because it looks like a underpowered corolla or something.

And I dont think the interior is all the same. The steering wheel seems to have some sort of control mechanism on it. That may be just because its auto but I dont know.

dwx
06-16-2005, 02:21 PM
http://www.impreza-net.com/masa/subaru/2005/img/2005cata_008.jpg

Look at the top of this picture, the description above the silver STi says TWIN SCROLL TURBO!!!!!!!!:devil:

They have used a twin-scroll turbo with the JDM model for 2 model years already. I would guess cost is the reason they don't use it on other models.

justbcuz
06-16-2005, 02:25 PM
They have used a twin-scroll turbo with the JDM model for 2 model years already. I would guess cost is the reason they don't use it on other models.

Damn... that sucks, I wasn't aware they used a twin scroll in japan.

justbcuz
06-16-2005, 02:29 PM
Here is a link to a 360 degree view of the car with a color choice option.


http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/exterior/01/w.html

justbcuz
06-16-2005, 02:31 PM
STi options.


http://www.poweraxel.com/sti/news/news2005/sti050ex6.jpg

justbcuz
06-16-2005, 02:34 PM
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/01/imgs/p1.gif

Engine specifications

hyp36rmax
06-16-2005, 02:46 PM
STi options.


http://www.poweraxel.com/sti/news/news2005/sti050ex6.jpg
new rendition of the v-lip, nice! wow i'm liking this more when i see it, but i already just got partial with the GDBC look.... heh

SlvrRS
06-16-2005, 02:53 PM
meh, still not a fan. I'll take my 04 thanks. I'll be curious to see what '08 brings, I'll be in the market for a new STi or something by then.

sneezy316
06-16-2005, 03:01 PM
Starting to like it more. According to the impreza-net info, the longer front actually allowed the redesigned hood to have better airflow, which allows for a lower hoodscoop. It seems the STI and WRX now share the same hoodscoop with 5 fins.

Predwolf
06-16-2005, 03:09 PM
It's a bit better, but the hood looks too long for me.

greenguy
06-16-2005, 03:31 PM
I wonder if they are going to have a new black?

greenguy hopes for a jet black w/ no flecks of color.

wrxpunk
06-16-2005, 03:31 PM
i dont know if this has been said or not ( :rolleyes: ), but it looks like the WRX will get the sti style gages and blue seats and optional gold wheels...hehehe. i feel a lot better about this new look now! ugly subaus always grown on me anyway

rsholland
06-16-2005, 03:34 PM
It's a bit better, but the hood looks too long for me.

Remember, many of these shots are taken with a wide-angle lens, so they are distorted to some degree. That can make the hood look longer than it actually is.

Bob

Stickee
06-16-2005, 03:35 PM
i dont know if this has been said or not ( :rolleyes: ), but it looks like the WRX will get the sti style gages and blue seats and optional gold wheels...hehehe. i feel a lot better about this new look now! ugly subaus always grown on me anyway
I almost forgot the fact that it comes in a 2.5 as well... :banana:

Basshead
06-16-2005, 03:35 PM
watched the video and you really get to see some nice changes and angles of the car, it has really grown on me and aside from the taillights i need one of these...

im optomistic about the wrx getting the same gauges cause that means perhaps the entire dash will now be the same color..no more damn christmas tree dash

intence
06-16-2005, 03:38 PM
no more foglights :(

popnfresh
06-16-2005, 03:41 PM
I wonder what parts of all this stuff will make it on the USDM version...

exactly, people seem to be forgetting that these are JDM ones


i bet the USDM loses a lot of the stuff when they bring it over :(

Basshead
06-16-2005, 03:43 PM
don't forget to add big ugly orange reflectors in those nice headlight assemblies!!!

Sir_Xenon
06-16-2005, 03:47 PM
asside from all this exterior changes lets hope the driving experience is improved... not just a faster car but one that is more lively when driven slow and has better feedback.

Layman
06-16-2005, 04:13 PM
asside from all this exterior changes lets hope the driving experience is improved... not just a faster car but one that is more lively when driven slow and has better feedback.

I think that's a given for the WRX with the 2.5L.

MrDestructo
06-16-2005, 04:17 PM
i bet the USDM loses a lot of the stuff when they bring it over :(

ding ding ding!!!

Still glad I just bought my '05 STI. That car is surely going to weigh more than '05-04s, with a nominal power increase at best. It will cost more too...
:banana: :disco:

Fig123
06-16-2005, 05:03 PM
Anyone know if the Japan version got any horsepower increases on the sti? That might mean a possible increase for the US version.

o2sys
06-16-2005, 05:11 PM
rear difuser!!!! soo cool!!!!

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/03/imgs/p2.jpg

hyp36rmax
06-16-2005, 05:14 PM
rear difuser!!!! soo cool!!!!

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/03/imgs/p2.jpg
im waiting for this piece, i wonder how its bolted on though....

Nawambo
06-16-2005, 05:17 PM
Anyone know if the Japan version got any horsepower increases on the sti? That might mean a possible increase for the US version.

I thought I read somewhere that torque went up 10 ft-ibs

RedBean
06-16-2005, 05:21 PM
STi options.


http://www.poweraxel.com/sti/news/news2005/sti050ex6.jpg
The V-Limited looks kind of strange on this because the front bumper already has a bit of a protruding lip already.

Extraze
06-16-2005, 05:35 PM
Love it !!!

Extraze
06-16-2005, 05:36 PM
bleh double post

pio!pio!
06-16-2005, 05:38 PM
rear difuser!!!! soo cool!!!!

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/03/imgs/p2.jpg
Dunno how much Df it can acutally generate
it pretty small..not that wide...the fences are not that tall, the strake angle is pretty shallow, and it's pretty high off the ground...

Extraze
06-16-2005, 05:40 PM
what is this ??? a subaru game ??

http://www.subaru.co.jp/topics/t-2005/impression/common/imgs/jacket.jpg


taken from here : http://www.subaru.co.jp/topics/t-2005/impression/detail.html

bluebaru02
06-16-2005, 05:42 PM
My order for a new STi Bluebaru goes out next Friday. I get my new zoomer in early August...I'll let y'all know how much fun I'm having when I go screaming by that Vette and those Porches in August. Guess I'll have to change my log in name to bluebaru06.

I'm gonna miss my '02 WRX, love the bug eyes but as I get older I find I have an ever increasing need for greater acceleration.

:cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool: :cool:

pio!pio!
06-16-2005, 05:42 PM
Now that the rear diff is covered from the diffuser..does this mean that everytimg you wanan jack the car up from thte back you gotta unbolt that thing?

quentinberg007
06-16-2005, 05:46 PM
http://quentin.totallyawesomedude.com/nasioc/06STi_white_front.JPG

This looks sooooo damn mean. It says mean like the front end of an Evo. Damnit, I keep telling myself that I need a wagon... but the STi keeps saying "buy me".

pio! pio! - I think it is more along the lines of modifying the direction of the airflow under the car.... in other words, reduce turbulence, making the airflow more linear. If you look at the other underbody pics, it looks like they added a decent number of peices that create a smoother underbody, overall.

~~Quentin

LapTak
06-16-2005, 05:56 PM
so the 06 will arrive to north america this august?

superspd8
06-16-2005, 05:57 PM
See I don't care so much about the looks, even though the only thing I like are the new headlights, the new under the skin changes are what interests me. That video showing the current to the new is really interesting. They did that super-imposing of the two cars, kinda like what they do in World Cup skiing which is really neat to watch (well for me at least, former ski racer here). The new DCCD is what I want to know more about.

One thing I don't like is the new hood scope, not agressive looking compared to the current one. I like how it leans forward like its gonna eat the car in front of it. :devil:

One thing I don't like on my '05 STi is the huge hood sccop: I would rather it be lower and wider. The one on my Wife's '05 legacy GT look a whole lot better.

Be 66 makes me out of the marketing target, but I have seen other people my age driving them. Why buy an M3 when we can have an STi? Especially when we don't have an extra $20,000 to blow on prewstige.

lhsa
06-16-2005, 06:02 PM
i'm skeptical the USDM STI will get a power bump. the JDM is clearly a different engine so any claim that the US version will get a bump is mere speculation.

i, too, am glad with my 05 STI (although i wish it were white :furious: ). you know the 06's will be a bit more than prices people have been paying recently for 05 STI's.

ding ding ding!!!

Still glad I just bought my '05 STI. That car is surely going to weigh more than '05-04s, with a nominal power increase at best. It will cost more too...
:banana: :disco:

justbcuz
06-16-2005, 06:03 PM
http://quentin.totallyawesomedude.com/nasioc/06STi_white_front.JPG



Where did this pic come from? anymore in white? Link please.

eclip5e
06-16-2005, 06:15 PM
I'm happy, i think its pretty good lookin

kasio
06-16-2005, 06:23 PM
First mod and a must mod for those buy this "Alfa": De-badge the rear emblem! Even that won't save it's ugly behind. :mad:

Let's boycott Subaru except the Legy! :p

flyinpig
06-16-2005, 06:24 PM
I thought I read somewhere that torque went up 10 ft-ibs

STI:
276 hp, 311 lb-ft (so went up abt 7 lb-ft)

WRX:
247 hp, 246 lb-ft

o2sys
06-16-2005, 06:35 PM
I Want An 06 Now!!!!

ChrisL2
06-16-2005, 06:35 PM
Now that the rear diff is covered from the diffuser..does this mean that everytimg you wanan jack the car up from thte back you gotta unbolt that thing?
The rear diff is not covered by the diffuser. It starts near the rear diff.

haven
06-16-2005, 06:50 PM
so the 06 will arrive to north america this august?
I was told orders will be taken the first week of July for August delivery. My dealer still has no order info yet so I am waiting as well.

mcu81
06-16-2005, 06:52 PM
STi options.


http://www.poweraxel.com/sti/news/news2005/sti050ex6.jpg



it SCREAMS to be made a coupe........whos the photoshop expert here for making it a coupe?

-mikey

justbcuz
06-16-2005, 06:52 PM
Did jdm always get this...

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/05/imgs/p4.jpghttp://www.subaru.co.jp/common/imgs/common/dot_blank.gifhttp://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/05/imgs/n5.gif

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/04/imgs/p2.jpg

Jon [in CT]
06-16-2005, 06:59 PM
STI:
276 hp, 311 lb-ft (so went up abt 7 lb-ft)

WRX:
247 hp, 246 lb-ftLooking at the dyno charts for the JDM STi at http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/specc/mechanism/01/index.html, it is obvious that Subaru is still abiding by the "gentleman's" 280 PS max power claims. Anyone ever seen a car that produces max horsepower (in this case, 207 kw = 280 PS) from 5,000 RPM all the way out to redline at 7,000 RPM? Normally, one would expect to see the torque line to be flat (with ever increasing HP).

P.S. It appears the graphics on that page are bragging about the torque output being above 250 Nm (295 lb-ft) from 3,000 RPM through 5,000 RPM. Did I understand that correctly, flyinpig?

quentinberg007
06-16-2005, 06:59 PM
Where did this pic come from? anymore in white? Link please.
I took a screenshot of the 3-D visualizer. No other white pics though. :(

~~Quentin

justbcuz
06-16-2005, 07:05 PM
Who was wondering about the fog lights? Here is the accessary pages... some hot and not so hot stuff, enjoy!

http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/gallery/wrx_sti.html

http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/gallery/sedan_wrx.html

http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/gallery/15i-S.html

ringe
06-16-2005, 07:09 PM
RE: DCCD changes

I don't know if anyone else caught this, but they changed the way the DCCD operates quite a bit. I'm just going by a babelfish translation but it looks like they are now using a torsen mechanical center diff as opposed to the electromechanical lsd in the older DCCD units (EMCD). They also changed the torque split from 65R:35F to 59R:41F. The other thing is it now has a steering wheel sensor that adjusts the DCCD based on the steering input. That could also be contrived as the yaw rate sensor, but it seems like something new given the literature.

The JDM 2L also puts out 310 ft-lbs of torque now.


In this video: http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/movies/mv_sedan_special_1m.html the Subaru engineers are showing Makinen the technical details on the DCCD and with those pics it looks to me to be the same planetary center diff with an electromagnetic clutch pack. However, that does not mean that you are wrong about the different torque split.

justbcuz
06-16-2005, 07:10 PM
SOme more good stuff for you... tons of options! Diff. fog lights etc.


http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/catalog/book/acc/index.html

http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/catalog/book/audio/index.html

ringe
06-16-2005, 07:12 PM
Who was wondering about the fog lights? Here is the accessary pages... some hot and not so hot stuff, enjoy!

http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/gallery/wrx_sti.html

http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/gallery/sedan_wrx.html

http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/gallery/15i-S.html

I dig those fogs.

Layman
06-16-2005, 07:14 PM
Be 66 makes me out of the marketing target, but I have seen other people my age driving them. Why buy an M3 when we can have an STi?

66 in an STi? That's awesome!

ringe
06-16-2005, 07:14 PM
Wow, it looks from those catalogs that Subaru is making the Impreza more visually customizable. Good call.

superspd8
06-16-2005, 07:32 PM
66 in an STi? That's awesome!

My history of sportws cars is, well,almost historical:

The first car i ever drove was a 1952 jaguar XK-120 on a dirt road when i was 14

The Next was a kaiser-Darrin in our semi-long driveway when I was 15

The I owned:

1954 jaguar MK VII sedan

1958 Porsche speedster

1961 Alfa Guiletta Sprint Coupe

1963 TVR Grantura MK-III

1967 Cougar GT

1969 911E

1974 RX-4 Coupe

1982 Saab 900 turbo

1993 RX-7 Twin turbo

2002 WRX

2005 STi

2005 Legacy GT (Wife's car)

Slow cars are no fun and as long as I have good reactions, I will have fast cars.

The msot fun cars fo the bunch were the Speedster, TVR, 911E, RX-7 TT and the STi. the STi is fastest, by far.

ScoobyNubieToo!
06-16-2005, 07:51 PM
I still can't get over how ugly and cheap the fog light covers look

Jfrankon
06-16-2005, 07:52 PM
1982 Saab 900 turbo

2002 WRX



Thats great. I'm 32 and the 82' Saab 900 Turbo (silver,4 door) was my first, and the 02' WRX is my latest!!! :lol: :lol: (FXT is wifey's)..

Cheers!

John

RedTRex
06-16-2005, 07:59 PM
']Looking at the dyno charts for the JDM STi at http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/specc/mechanism/01/index.html, it is obvious that Subaru is still abiding by the "gentleman's" 280 PS max power claims. Anyone ever seen a car that produces max horsepower (in this case, 207 kw = 280 PS) from 5,000 RPM all the way out to redline at 7,000 RPM? Normally, one would expect to see the torque line to be flat (with ever increasing HP).

P.S. It appears the graphics on that page are bragging about the torque output being above 250 Nm (295 lb-ft) from 3,000 RPM through 5,000 RPM. Did I understand that correctly, flyinpig?

True since HP is a function of torque x rpm.....so theoretically, a flat hp line is impossible. 'cept for maybe my lawnmower

rsholland
06-16-2005, 08:00 PM
My history of sportws cars is, well,almost historical:

The first car i ever drove was a 1952 jaguar XK-120 on a dirt road when i was 14

The Next was a kaiser-Darrin in our semi-long driveway when I was 15

The I owned:

1954 jaguar MK VII sedan

1958 Porsche speedster

1961 Alfa Guiletta Sprint Coupe

1963 TVR Grantura MK-III

1967 Cougar GT

1969 911E

1974 RX-4 Coupe

1982 Saab 900 turbo

1993 RX-7 Twin turbo

2002 WRX

2005 STi

2005 Legacy GT (Wife's car)

Slow cars are no fun and as long as I have good reactions, I will have fast cars.

The msot fun cars fo the bunch were the Speedster, TVR, 911E, RX-7 TT and the STi. the STi is fastest, by far.

Very impressive resumé :)

When I was 17, the girl up the street from me, who was 3 years older than I, was dating a guy who had a '54 Alfa Guilletta Sprint Coupe sans muffler (1300cc, DOHC and revved like there was no tomorrow). I had a chance to drive it once (this was in 1962 IIRC). That was the car that changed my automotive life, in that I discovered and fell in love with imports. I haven't been the same since. BTW, her boyfriend eventually traded the Alfa in for a then-new British Racing Green 289 Cobra.

Ah... good memories. :)

Bob

JJ26
06-16-2005, 08:03 PM
I still can't get over how ugly and cheap the fog light covers look

I agree

flyinpig
06-16-2005, 08:08 PM
']Looking at the dyno charts for the JDM STi at http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/specc/mechanism/01/index.html, it is obvious that Subaru is still abiding by the "gentleman's" 280 PS max power claims. Anyone ever seen a car that produces max horsepower (in this case, 207 kw = 280 PS) from 5,000 RPM all the way out to redline at 7,000 RPM? Normally, one would expect to see the torque line to be flat (with ever increasing HP).

P.S. It appears the graphics on that page are bragging about the torque output being above 250 Nm (295 lb-ft) from 3,000 RPM through 5,000 RPM. Did I understand that correctly, flyinpig?

I agree the HP figure cant be real - probably because of the gentleman's agreement and possibly not wanting to show up the S203 owners. The latest Evo is also rated 207kW in Japan.

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/specc/mechanism/01/imgs/p1.gif

Yep Subaru says that the 3,000-5,000rpm range torque was stengthened with daily driving in mind. The increase comes from fine tuning the boost levels and allows for more controllable speed.

intence
06-16-2005, 08:45 PM
yes! fogs!

RedBean
06-16-2005, 09:38 PM
Did jdm always get this...

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/05/imgs/p4.jpghttp://www.subaru.co.jp/common/imgs/common/dot_blank.gifhttp://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/05/imgs/n5.gif

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/04/imgs/p2.jpg
The 2005s did.

jweiss
06-16-2005, 10:00 PM
One thing I don't like on my '05 STi is the huge hood sccop: I would rather it be lower and wider. The one on my Wife's '05 legacy GT look a whole lot better.

Be 66 makes me out of the marketing target, but I have seen other people my age driving them. Why buy an M3 when we can have an STi? Especially when we don't have an extra $20,000 to blow on prewstige.

I agree regarding the hood scoop (and I'm only 38!).

66 - that's great! So is your list of cars.

Just remember - if you hear a ticking sound it means your turn signal is on :)

ljaviation
06-16-2005, 10:04 PM
Anyone notice this car now looks like it comes in a champagne color?
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/exterior/01/w.html

That's different...

rsholland
06-16-2005, 10:17 PM
Anyone notice this car now looks like it comes in a champagne color?
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/exterior/01/w.html

That's different...

I bet it's the same gold used on the Outback and Saab 9-2X.

Bob

bob655
06-16-2005, 10:17 PM
Anyone notice this car now looks like it comes in a champagne color?
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/exterior/01/w.html

That's different...

That's Crystal Gray Metallic

schism jman
06-16-2005, 10:21 PM
so when will this thing be out in the US?

neuspeed
06-16-2005, 10:32 PM
Late July; early august?

Imprezard
06-16-2005, 10:46 PM
http://www.japanesecarfans.com/news/2050616.001/2050616.001.Mini2L.jpg

I like this shot.
For some reason it reminds me of the Taxi... :lol:

http://charal.chez.tiscali.fr/photos/affi/taxi.jpg

http://www.geocities.jp/peg106s16/DSC00526kkk.jpg

schism jman
06-16-2005, 11:45 PM
Late July; early august?

wow...that soon? i was expecting sometime near nov

Nonz3ro
06-16-2005, 11:48 PM
it SCREAMS to be made a coupe........whos the photoshop expert here for making it a coupe?

-mikey


http://img261.echo.cx/img261/4883/sticoupe1ci.jpg

there.

imprezwrx
06-17-2005, 12:29 AM
I like it a lot with those pictures, but, remember that our front and rear bumpers are gonna be at least 2.5" longer (5" over-all) for the 4 and 6 mph regulations.

Subie Roo
06-17-2005, 12:35 AM
I like it a lot with those pictures, but, remember that our front and rear bumpers are gonna be at least 2.5" longer (5" over-all) for the 4 and 6 mph regulations.

How do you figure that, considering all previous GD-type Imprezas haven't required such a change for the US market?

SUBE555
06-17-2005, 12:54 AM
Direct link to the 300k version of the video...
Impreza Video (http://meta.hitpops.jp/contents/public/10005085/M10031894.asx)

chopchop
06-17-2005, 01:01 AM
Dispite of the look of the new model, we should be thankful that they have finally decided to put in projectors :lol:
Poor 04s don't even have projector headlights to change to, unlike the 02/03...

Coati
06-17-2005, 01:29 AM
Poor 04s don't even have projector headlights to change to, unlike the 02/03...

Couldn't owners of '04s just put in '04 STi HIDs?

flyinpig
06-17-2005, 01:30 AM
Though not a STI or WRX, heres a shot of fogs I came across in the gallery. Theres a lot to click on that site!

http://www.subaru.co.jp/square/gallery/kabegami/impreza/imgs/24_1.jpg

SUBE555
06-17-2005, 01:38 AM
Man I've been looping the video over and over, best video I've seen from SoJ since the new Legacy came out, that was a good one with all the models, the last 30sec of that older vid was great.

I'm really taking a liking to it, especially with more rubber, yet again updates coming to the drivetrain, and an updated exterior including projectors, that was a major notice to me since having a Leggy they're very nice to have, but I'd really love to have them with HIDs for night rain driving.

It will be interesting to see what other major/minor things are made over here as well, but I'm overall really liking the design changes and updates, makes for quite a bit more cohesive package in my book. I like the sharp lines of the EVO 9, but this new Impreza looks pretty slick overall and the package is improving yet again. Better seats would likely be a big hitter with me, those EVO seats hug much better than last time I was in an STi.

Question is colors, last looked great in White/Gold, WRB/Gold, and CGM/Gold. I think my top two choices with this style would be: WRB/Gold and the CGM or whatever grey it is with gold and fit the accessory front and rear skirts. :)

http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/gallery/img/ar_wrx-sti/front_02.gif
http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/gallery/img/ar_wrx-sti/rear_02.gif








Oh man, I'm really starting to dig this car! Think I'm going to have to get to the dealerships and starting to inquire. :) They're gonna look at me funny and wonder why the heck I'm buying another new one already. :lol:

STi-MAN
06-17-2005, 01:39 AM
wow the car actually looks freaking nice

leaknoil
06-17-2005, 01:58 AM
I like it a lot with those pictures, but, remember that our front and rear bumpers are gonna be at least 2.5" longer (5" over-all) for the 4 and 6 mph regulations.

If true that might make the front bumper look a lot more like the current WRC bumper.

Kostamojen
06-17-2005, 02:22 AM
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/03/imgs/p2.jpg

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/specc/mechanism/imgs/p3.jpg

I hope the two diffusers will fit on GC's... That would rock

SUBE555
06-17-2005, 03:42 AM
Okay, I think I've fallen in love with another car besides my GT. :eek:

I gotta start my mod list now! :lol:

Imprezard
06-17-2005, 03:47 AM
I like it a lot with those pictures, but, remember that our front and rear bumpers are gonna be at least 2.5" longer (5" over-all) for the 4 and 6 mph regulations.

The North American version of GD Imprezas and Foresters never received bumper extension, but Legacy does. I am guessing it might have something to do with where the car is manufacturered.

majnthr33
06-17-2005, 04:03 AM
I AM VERY MUCH DIGGING THIS DESIGN ! This is a tight looking car. Just wondering about the WRX getting a 2.5 ( US power specs?). Since the Impreza is coming out here so soon, you would think there are some US numbers somewhere. The whole car grew on me, front and back. Oh yeah, I am a BUGEYE owner. Love this design as much as mine. :cool:

majnthr33
06-17-2005, 04:15 AM
Okay, just saw power specs on another thread. 230hp 235tq. Some hp is better than none. Good tq increase though. Still needs a little more help. Pesky srt-4. :rolleyes:

kg2128
06-17-2005, 04:42 AM
looks better than before its not hideous now, its liveable. Still doesnt look that great IMO. For me its GC8 #1 then my GDB. I dont care for the bugeye or this new design as much.

Carbon888
06-17-2005, 05:11 AM
SOme more good stuff for you... tons of options! Diff. fog lights etc.


http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/catalog/book/acc/index.html

http://accessory.subaru.co.jp/impreza/catalog/book/audio/index.html

those are some ugliest fog lights i've ever seen

Carbon888
06-17-2005, 05:13 AM
i still prefer the 05 front with rest of the changes of 06!

bhamwrxman
06-17-2005, 08:03 AM
Bugeye will nevAr die!!!!!!!!!


LONG LIVE THE BUGEYE!!!!

Pacobeagle
06-17-2005, 08:13 AM
OK, someone has to find the part number for that diffesuer on the back window. Oh, and find it in black or white.

HAHAHAHA.

rsholland
06-17-2005, 08:22 AM
Now that we've seen "official" photos...

and most nasiocers now seem to like it...

is it time for a new poll???

:banana: :banana: :banana:

Bob

2002pete
06-17-2005, 08:30 AM
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/05/imgs/p3.jpg
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/05/imgs/p2.jpg
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/interior/imgs/p1.jpg
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/lineup/01/imgs/top.jpg
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/lineup/02/imgs/top.jpg
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/lineup/02/imgs/top2.jpg
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/lineup/03/imgs/top.jpg

schism jman
06-17-2005, 08:47 AM
heres a quick photoshop i did

http://www.bannersmall.com/chris-temp/stigrilldelete.gif

dwx
06-17-2005, 08:50 AM
In this video: http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/movies/mv_sedan_special_1m.html the Subaru engineers are showing Makinen the technical details on the DCCD and with those pics it looks to me to be the same planetary center diff with an electromagnetic clutch pack. However, that does not mean that you are wrong about the different torque split.

Here is a translated mechanism page (babelfish):

There is the point of the evolution of DCCD. First 1st is to install the mechanical cable type LSD of torque response type in the center diff.. Because of this, because timing of acceleration and deceleration and the LSD conclusion of the car with accelerator operation agrees almost completely, the movement becomes easy, to grasp it is possible to control the car unrestrictedly. 2nd is to add the steering wheel position of a vessel's helm sensor anew in addition to the side G sensor and the yaw rate sensor. You grasp the travelling line which is made goal of the driver from steering wheel operation, act in concert to the behavior of the actual vehicle and electronic control LSD, oversteers by the fact that the conclusion power of sequential LSD is adjusted, holds down understeer, neutral from of according to image actualizes handling. And, as for 3rd torque distribution the front and back 35: From 65 41: It is to modify in 59. Because of this in order the traction which is looking back characteristic and in the midst of revolving balance to do in the higher-order origin, necessity of the correction rudder decreases. From stabilizing, the corner it can escape fast. With the introduction of this new DCCD, as for STI it is and it is the ‚¿, is with while it was mind, and the sense of security the running which overflows was obtained.


Here is a diagram of the auto mode operation, if someone could translate it:

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/imgs/w1.gif


Looks like the WRX also gets a suretrac rear lsd now.

Beaverboy
06-17-2005, 08:53 AM
heres a quick photoshop i didno thanks. It's fine the way it is. ;)

2nd is to add the steering wheel position of a vessel's helm sensor anew in addition to the side G sensor and the yaw rate sensor.
:lol:

schism jman
06-17-2005, 08:58 AM
no thanks. It's fine the way it is. ;)


:lol:
just did it to give people an idea of how itll look without that grill design...i think it looks pretty clean :cool:

Nonz3ro
06-17-2005, 09:00 AM
http://meta.hitpops.jp/contents/public/10005085/M10031894.asx

argh it wont saveonto my computer

clucania
06-17-2005, 09:07 AM
Where did this pic come from? anymore in white? Link please.

Ask and ye shall recieve!

http://statuecreative.com/stuff/new_rex1.jpg
http://statuecreative.com/stuff/new_rex2.jpg

~Chris Lucania

Mike Wevrick
06-17-2005, 09:10 AM
Okay, just saw power specs on another thread. 230hp 235tq. Some hp is better than none. Good tq increase though. Still needs a little more help. Pesky srt-4. :rolleyes:

Have you driven a Forester XT? The extra low-end torque makes a big difference.

Nawambo
06-17-2005, 09:24 AM
I tip my hat to you sir!
That's amazing, and you're a role model for those of us still climbing the sports car enthusiast ladder (I'm 28 :) ).

-Nawambo

My history of sportws cars is, well,almost historical:

The first car i ever drove was a 1952 jaguar XK-120 on a dirt road when i was 14

The Next was a kaiser-Darrin in our semi-long driveway when I was 15

The I owned:

1954 jaguar MK VII sedan

1958 Porsche speedster

1961 Alfa Guiletta Sprint Coupe

1963 TVR Grantura MK-III

1967 Cougar GT

1969 911E

1974 RX-4 Coupe

1982 Saab 900 turbo

1993 RX-7 Twin turbo

2002 WRX

2005 STi

2005 Legacy GT (Wife's car)

Slow cars are no fun and as long as I have good reactions, I will have fast cars.

The msot fun cars fo the bunch were the Speedster, TVR, 911E, RX-7 TT and the STi. the STi is fastest, by far.

clucania
06-17-2005, 09:37 AM
Have you driven a Forester XT? The extra low-end torque makes a big difference.

Mike is dead on!

As I said in another post...

I have both a 2.0 WRX and a 2.5 XT and there is absolutely no comparison.

The cars feel totally different.

Make no mistake, this is a HUGE upgrade.

~Chris Lucania

AndyH
06-17-2005, 10:28 AM
More DCCD info in this message thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=790513

The model (STi) also features an improved version of the driver’s control center differential (DCCD), an electronically controlled All Wheel Drive (AWD) system that adds a torque-sensitive, mechanical limited-slip differential (LSD). Balancing high levels of maneuverability and stability, it embodies driving pleasure. Impreza’s exterior designs have been made more fully aerodynamic, in recognition of its participation in high-speed rally events and motor sport activities.

...

Improvements in the DCCD include the addition of a torque-sensitive, mechanical LSD, and a steering angle sensor in the control unit of the electromagnetic LSD. Quicker, more precise torque distribution control puts excellent cornering and maneuverability at the driver’s disposal.

...

While circumspectly preserving the characteristics of the electromagnetic LSD that enables precise front/rear torque distribution control, FHI engineers have further improved the DCCD (driver’s control center differential) system with the addition of a torque-sensitive, mechanical limited-slip differential (LSD) in order to perfect the torque distribution control in the new Impreza. The new DCCD system ensures outstanding drivability and stability under a wide range of driving conditions, from wet roads and snowy highways to dry circuits. By maximizing vehicle stability, an inherent characteristic of the AWD system, Subaru fulfills its promise of high levels of driving pleasure and active safety.

A torque-sensitive mechanical LSD, which excels in response and linear control, has been integrated into the center differential set in combination with the electromagnetic LSD. This addition heightens the already smooth differential action, even with temporary torque changes during acceleration or changes in road conditions. As a result of the synergy of the new DCCD’s combination of the mechanical and electromagnetic LSD, the torque distribution range has been expanded. Nimble cornering performance, as well as vehicle control during acceleration and deceleration in cornering, have been greatly improved by these changes.

A steering angle sensor has been added to the new DCCD with auto mode to monitor vehicle turn position by steering angle. These sensors work together with already-equipped sensors for cornering force and yaw rate in order to help the AWD controller system optimally control differential action by comparing the target yaw rate (based on steering operation) with actual yaw rate in cornering. (Auto mode is available on the 17-inch-tire versions of the WRX STI and WRX STI spec C.)

Reflecting the changes in the DCCD system, the planetary gear system has been modified to deliver a front and rear torque distribution ratio of 41:59, a ratio closer to the actual front versus rear weight distribution. Overall drivability and vehicle stability have been greatly improved in order to accommodate a wider range of driving conditions, from leisurely cruising on regular roads to rally racing on a circuit.

Nawambo
06-17-2005, 10:40 AM
Anyone know where I can get either of these two pics in a .tsk version so I can download them onto my pocketPC?

Thanks

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/jwright77/bluestiwithsilverrims.jpg

http://www.japanesecarfans.com/news/2050616.001/2050616.001.Mini2L.jpg

GDB
06-17-2005, 10:57 AM
More DCCD info in this message thread:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=790513

Why don't we (those who care more about technical improvements than looks) move any future tech discussion to that thread? Let this and that other 06 pics thread be the battleground between "I love the looks" vs. "That made me puke".

I hate scrolling pages after pages scouring for tech improvements.

STI Orenji
06-17-2005, 11:09 AM
Bah dum bah bah bah...i'm lovin it!

NYCshopper
06-17-2005, 11:13 AM
more pics...

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0617/article71706_1.images/89165.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0617/article71706_1.images/89160.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0617/article71706_1.images/89161.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0617/article71706_1.images/89162.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0617/article71706_1.images/89163.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0617/article71706_1.images/89164.jpg

http://www.carview.co.jp/news/car/images/imgMP2005061701_5_l.jpg

lenyx
06-17-2005, 11:21 AM
^ oooh the cargo area carpet matches the carpet in the rest of the car now. Is that a recent/new change?

intence
06-17-2005, 11:43 AM
http://x2.putfile.com/6/16710430156.jpg

TopSpeed
06-17-2005, 11:43 AM
I dig it!

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/sportswagon/exterior/imgs/w1_01.jpg

TopSpeed
06-17-2005, 11:46 AM
By the way, according to the 360deg widget on the Subaru Japan site, there is a "Sport" version of the i model that comes with the WRX front bumper and side skirts.

I hope we get that option on our 2.5i !

-Porter-

TopSpeed
06-17-2005, 11:49 AM
The leather interior option on the NA models is also SWEET!

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/sportswagon/interior/01/imgs/photo02.jpg

palpullero
06-17-2005, 11:56 AM
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/index.html

Lots of new pics on the Japanese site too, including wallpapers like this one :banana:

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/special/gallery/s3_m.jpg

Notice the bulge in the headlights - yuck. And that front grille stil looks out of place. And is it me or all the hood scoops look the same size?

SubeSTIle
06-17-2005, 12:38 PM
Anyone notice this car now looks like it comes in a champagne color?
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/exterior/01/w.html

That's different...

i believe that is the crystal grey metalic... but not sure as i cant read kanji

Stickee
06-17-2005, 12:41 PM
Wagon tails:

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/sportswagon/exterior/imgs/w2_01.jpg

Borti
06-17-2005, 01:11 PM
In the cabin picture of the wrx wagon, is that an HID leveler switch and a traction control button by the shifter?

fuzzycuffs
06-17-2005, 02:00 PM
http://response.jp/issue/2005/0617/article71706_1.images/89163.jpg

So the WRX gets the red cluster of the STi?

Hotness... maybe I'll save cash and just get a WRX.

chimchimm5
06-17-2005, 02:06 PM
Still no sunroof on the wagon?

When will people figure out that amber is hard on the eyes? (stupid assumption that euro look is the "right" way)

SUBE555
06-17-2005, 02:09 PM
Notice the bulge in the headlights - yuck. And that front grille stil looks out of place. And is it me or all the hood scoops look the same size?

Legacy has same bulge in lights for their projectors and IMO looks just fine.

Grille IMO looks just fine. Sure I loved GC/GM models, but I'd definitely take this with the huge chassis, power, etc improvements.

I believe the scoops are all the same size, it was noted somewhere the profile change allows for better airflow not requiring as big of scoops.

Jfrankon
06-17-2005, 04:57 PM
Is it me, or is the rear spoiler on the wagon a now more "trimmed-down" version? Looks much less bulky...hmm. :)

jnorth85
06-17-2005, 05:29 PM
i want that rear difuser

ringe
06-17-2005, 05:31 PM
Here is a translated mechanism page (babelfish):

There is the point of the evolution of DCCD. First 1st is to install the mechanical cable type LSD of torque response type in the center diff.. Because of this, because timing of acceleration and deceleration and the LSD conclusion of the car with accelerator operation agrees almost completely, the movement becomes easy, to grasp it is possible to control the car unrestrictedly. 2nd is to add the steering wheel position of a vessel's helm sensor anew in addition to the side G sensor and the yaw rate sensor. You grasp the travelling line which is made goal of the driver from steering wheel operation, act in concert to the behavior of the actual vehicle and electronic control LSD, oversteers by the fact that the conclusion power of sequential LSD is adjusted, holds down understeer, neutral from of according to image actualizes handling. And, as for 3rd torque distribution the front and back 35: From 65 41: It is to modify in 59. Because of this in order the traction which is looking back characteristic and in the midst of revolving balance to do in the higher-order origin, necessity of the correction rudder decreases. From stabilizing, the corner it can escape fast. With the introduction of this new DCCD, as for STI it is and it is the ‚¿, is with while it was mind, and the sense of security the running which overflows was obtained.


Here is a diagram of the auto mode operation, if someone could translate it:

http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/wrx/mechanism/imgs/w1.gif


Looks like the WRX also gets a suretrac rear lsd now.


I apologize, after reading that and another thread today with a description of the new DCCD, I believe you are right. Very cool news this is, because it can have the same rear biased torque split under "open" conditions, and the torque sensing center diff *should*, if it works like a Torsen (as assuming I understand it correctly) transfer up to 100% of engine torque to either axle, much like the Audi S series cars. Very nice.

Please correct me if I'm wrong there.

blokespeed
06-17-2005, 06:48 PM
I think i'll wait for the 08 model, the wagon looks better because there is no roof rack on it.The roof spoiler on the sedan looks like a roof rack thats in the wrong place it needs to go,the tail lights are too rice for me, basically your paying for a new front clip.

intence
06-17-2005, 06:54 PM
http://response.jp/issue/2005/0617/article71706_1.images/89163.jpg

So the WRX gets the red cluster of the STi?

Hotness... maybe I'll save cash and just get a WRX.
05 wrx gets the red cluster in japan. we'll probably get a green one again.

AWDPilot
06-17-2005, 06:54 PM
^ oooh the cargo area carpet matches the carpet in the rest of the car now. Is that a recent/new change?
05 Wagons are like this as well (black carpet)

blokespeed
06-17-2005, 07:17 PM
Did anyone notice the 2 silver STI sedans have different style tail lights, hopefully the US won't get the clears.

hyp36rmax
06-17-2005, 09:16 PM
Did anyone notice the 2 silver STI sedans have different style tail lights, hopefully the US won't get the clears.

one's a photoshop job.... the later picture that is downsized.... i'm sure you can replace them with the current rear lights for sure.....

tee_rexx
06-17-2005, 10:12 PM
Geeeeeez......I was just gonna wait for the 07/08 re-design, but I am really digging the freshening here. I like the twin wings and rear wiper. Even the front end looks so much better in these pictures than in previous ones. Damn you Subaru, can't you ever leave me alone?

Ghostrider600
06-18-2005, 01:10 AM
heres a quick photoshop i did

http://www.bannersmall.com/chris-temp/stigrilldelete.gif


SO much better.

Looks like the Legacy's little (meaner) brother, which shows brand resemblance--Subaru should like it.

Pity, it's just a chop...unless the AfterMarket makes that front for us...

iownaspec
06-18-2005, 01:18 AM
the wrx wheels look almost like my 05 obs wheels.

Lexington
06-18-2005, 02:40 AM
That bumper/grille setup would not be hard to make... maybe 500$ some skill and some time =)