My local track is on to me... they cut me short the other day, won't let me run anymore. This means I may get 1 or 2 runs each time I go,... MAXIMUM before they kick me off.

I need a cage... sigh.

Best the other day:

11.40 @ 125.33

Anybody know where I could get a cheap cage? Installed? Or better yet... a partial sponsorship??? Puhlease!

This on the SZ49 still... I'd really be pissing the track off with a bigger turbo! :devil:

def

nice times man, that on race or pump?

Congrats on needing a cage. I wish I had that problem. I am not sure what to tell you about getting a cage put in around here. Maybe andrew can help you.

good times.
cant wait to see times w/ the bigger turbo.........

nice times man, that on race or pump?

C16. Pump gas is good for high 11s @ 118 or so. Best on this set-up is 11.35 @ 124.9.

def

SLOW DOWN!

;)


...too cool.

ps- I ran the 11.4 @ 125 just after a pass where I shifted 1-2-1. More than likely the motor saw somewhere around 10-11,000 rpms!!

Good to know that I pulled an 11.4 @ 125 AFTER that happened... lol!

These Ver. 7 RA-C motors are the shanizzle fo' sho'!!

def

dont you just need a 4 point?

Rear Loop to the floor and then back to the Rear Strut tops?

or does it need to be more intricate?

congrats on the times!!

pss- I just did the math, it would have hit about 11,300 rpms at the speed I was going!! wow. Poor motor...

def

boo hoo, Doug needs a cage.. What a problem to have.. Congrats bro.. Talked to Mikaust the other day, is his car fixed?

Dave-

boo hoo, Doug needs a cage.. What a problem to have.. Congrats bro.. Talked to Mikaust the other day, is his car fixed?

Dave-

Not yet, but we have figured some things out... we think ;)

def

Try a Mazworx Cage... really good qauality and realistly priced. the std. drag cages are not NHRA approved cause they are bolt in but you can buy it in a weld in configuration and meet spec. chances are, no track will check either way though.

A 6 point cage will certify you to run as low as a 10.00. Anything under that, they will ask for a NHRA certified cage.

dont you just need a 4 point?

Rear Loop to the floor and then back to the Rear Strut tops?

or does it need to be more intricate?

congrats on the times!!
Thats what i thought too. Just a bar, not a full cage. Who knows, seems they keep changing the rules though as street cars get faster and safer. Hopefully by the time (if i ever get there) i run a low 11 i wont need a cage.
Hell, stock STi's will be running 10's before i run a low 11. :lol:

They are starting to tighten down about nos though. Last time i went to LACR they made me remove my bottle because i didnt have a dump tube.

pss- I just did the math, it would have hit about 11,300 rpms at the speed I was going!! wow. Poor motor...
def
How'd you even do that? I have problems getting into first unless i'm doing 5mph or less.

what kinda tranny you running man???
yeah those motors are the ****, makes me wish id held on to mine sometimes.

what boost?
what does your whole time slip look like.
nice times very nice

theres info on DEF's car in this thread and a dyno.
I believe he's got a PPG dogbox from TXS.
http://www.turboxs.com/turboxs_dog_box.htm

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=784601

Thats what i thought too. Just a bar, not a full cage. Who knows, seems they keep changing the rules though as street cars get faster and safer. Hopefully by the time (if i ever get there) i run a low 11 i wont need a cage.
Hell, stock STi's will be running 10's before i run a low 11. :lol:

They are starting to tighten down about nos though. Last time i went to LACR they made me remove my bottle because i didnt have a dump tube.


How'd you even do that? I have problems getting into first unless i'm doing 5mph or less.

I am running a dogbox w/interlockers. This makes shifting from 2nd into 3rd abit tricky... which can lead to the wrong gear change apparantly! :eek:

I had to be around 8000-8200 in 2nd when I went completely into 1st and released the clutch! The engine stalled... and I about crapped my pants.

But, all was well! This time anyway... can't let that EVER happen again.

BTW- I've ran enough WRX trannies to know, that everyone is different in regard to when you can go into 1st. I've had them grind @ 5 mph and some fine up to 25-30 mph.

def

damn, w/ huh lol. i remember phil going to the drag strip and missing a gear (w/out interlockers) and saying he had to drive home on the side of the road in 1st!

what are the rules for role cages? I thought it was moved from 11.99 to 11.49, anyone know? Either way, you're faster than both so you need a cage anyway. I'm hoping for 11's this weekend at Nopi.

lol

I was wondering why your times were high relative to your trap speed. What ET should a 125 mph trap get?

I am running a dogbox w/interlockers. This makes shifting from 2nd into 3rd abit tricky... which can lead to the wrong gear change apparantly! :eek:
I had to be around 8000-8200 in 2nd when I went completely into 1st and released the clutch! The engine stalled... and I about crapped my pants.
But, all was well! This time anyway... can't let that EVER happen again.
BTW- I've ran enough WRX trannies to know, that everyone is different in regard to when you can go into 1st. I've had them grind @ 5 mph and some fine up to 25-30 mph.

def
You should look into getting a shift lock out kit. I have one but cant really tell the difference as i never tried to shift into the wrong gear. ;) But its supposed to "lock out" the lower gears when u are upshifting. 2-3 locks out first, 4-5 locks out 1 and 2, etc.
I think easystreet got it from MRT.

Yo DEF you check out CUSCO yet :confused: The have a nice cage for fairly cheap and it's a bolt in deal too.

lol

I was wondering why your times were high relative to your trap speed. What ET should a 125 mph trap get?

According to the little 1350 estimator, 125 traps are good for 10.7-10.8 or so. (1350/trap speed = approximate ideal et)

def

what are the rules for role cages? I thought it was moved from 11.99 to 11.49, anyone know? Either way, you're faster than both so you need a cage anyway. I'm hoping for 11's this weekend at Nopi.

good luck!

def

You should look into getting a shift lock out kit. I have one but cant really tell the difference as i never tried to shift into the wrong gear. ;) But its supposed to "lock out" the lower gears when u are upshifting. 2-3 locks out first, 4-5 locks out 1 and 2, etc.
I think easystreet got it from MRT.

hmmm... interesting. Prolly expensive... and more than likely goes where my PPG interlockers are :mad: :furious:

def

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subint.htm

get a cusco cage

http://www.gruppe-s.com/Subaru/subint.htm

get a cusco cage
Yeah what I said ;)
http://www.xcceleration.com/images/viva/rollcages/Cuscocage3sti.jpghttp://www.xcceleration.com/images/viva/rollcages/cuscocage4sti.jpghttp://www.xcceleration.com/images/viva/rollcages/cuscorollcage.gif

According to the little 1350 estimator, 125 traps are good for 10.7-10.8 or so. (1350/trap speed = approximate ideal et)

def
Yeah but the estimators also say we should not need as much HP to go that fast. It's all geared towards the RWD types :rolleyes:

Pics look good... you might not know that car even had a cage!

The lack of a visor kinda sucks though.

def

Yeah but the estimators also say we should not need as much HP to go that fast. It's all geared towards the RWD types :rolleyes:

As long as you can sixty foot your ass off... it can be done ;)

def

hmmm... interesting. Prolly expensive... and more than likely goes where my PPG interlockers are :mad: :furious:

def
I got mine free because i told them not to install it and they put it in anyway. I believe it was $750.

The lack of a visor kinda sucks though.

def
Just roll WT style and shove a piece of cardboard between the cage and the ceiling, instant visor. :lol:

You could roll with these people.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/phatron/sidemirror.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/phatron/Cardboard20front.jpg

Driver of the minivan. :lol:
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/phatron/handsfree_cellphone.jpg

My local track is on to me... they cut me short the other day, won't let me run anymore. This means I may get 1 or 2 runs each time I go,... MAXIMUM before they kick me off.

I need a cage... sigh.

Best the other day:

11.40 @ 125.33

Anybody know where I could get a cheap cage? Installed? Or better yet... a partial sponsorship??? Puhlease!

This on the SZ49 still... I'd really be pissing the track off with a bigger turbo! :devil:

def


Hey Doug,
When did you get ruled off. I was at Cecil Friday nite and didnt see you.
I know a few cage builders in the area as I got a full CM cage in my car. Since you just need the rollbar you can save some money. Dont let these guys tell you that those bolt-ins are a great bargain. The install is not easy trust me.

Doug as the poster above said I believe you could get by with just a roll bar and not a whole cage. Get that damn bar in and represent at english town ;).

Hey Doug,
When did you get ruled off. I was at Cecil Friday nite and didnt see you.
I know a few cage builders in the area as I got a full CM cage in my car. Since you just need the rollbar you can save some money. Dont let these guys tell you that those bolt-ins are a great bargain. The install is not easy trust me.

Sometime before the fights and the wreck.

I ran 16.xxx (1-2-1 shift), 11.40 @ 125.33, 11.70 @ 124.XX, 11.45 @ 124.9X... then they stopped me.

They actually stopped me 1st time up, saying they new I was under, but to keep it over. The guy laughed at my 1st run when I came back around... he said, "I told you to keep it over 11.49 but it I didn't mean to run a 16!"

They were all over me... every official between the top and the bottom said something to me on one run or another until the last time I got in line and was told to pull out :(

def

Doug as the other poster above stated I believe you could get by with just a roll bar and not a whole cage. Get that damn bar in and represent at english town ;).

Yea, I guess I'll do just what I need to do. Just gotta make sure I don't end up regrettingh whatever descision I make.

def

lucky for me I drive a slow POS and don't have to worry about such things :rolleyes: ........did I just say luck for me? :confused:

I'd love to be in your postion

Sometime before the fights and the wreck.
def


What happen?

boo hoo, Doug needs a cage.. What a problem to have..
Agreed...Thats one hell of a problem to have :(
Cry me a river,... :lol:
Nice times...go get that RED or SZ55. :disco:

I think the IHRA & NHRA requirements: are just roll bar ?

Elapsed Time (ET) of 10.00 - 11.49

Aftermarket axles and axle retention devices (10.99 or quicker)
Roll Bar

And these NHRA - bar only 10.0 - 11.49

http://www.nhra.com/tech_specs/ETQuickRef.html

Yeah what I said ;)
http://www.xcceleration.com/images/viva/rollcages/Cuscocage3sti.jpghttp://www.xcceleration.com/images/viva/rollcages/cuscocage4sti.jpghttp://www.xcceleration.com/images/viva/rollcages/cuscorollcage.gif
I don't know if that cage is good enough for the NHRA :confused:

its not i have allready checked cause i'm in Dugs situation too i've allready been 11.7xx on my 93 map in the dead of the heat and it was real humid i was off 2mph and my c16 map makes 80whp and 100wtq more so 11.49 should be no problems and my local track knows about my car. they are on me real bad about a cage.

Perhaps we could use this:

http://www.f1freaks.com/estore/html/page-view.asp?menuid=221

Its only $265 :D

def

Perhaps we could use this:

http://www.f1freaks.com/estore/html/page-view.asp?menuid=221

Its only $265 :D

def
Damn I'll go for that one :D

Perhaps we could use this:

http://www.f1freaks.com/estore/html/page-view.asp?menuid=221

Its only $265 :D

def
:banana: :disco:

Perhaps we could use this:

http://www.f1freaks.com/estore/html/page-view.asp?menuid=221

Its only $265 :D

def


That one is crap for drag racing. You need a minimum of a 6 point full cage to run faster than a 11.49. 10.0-11.49 is a 6 point. 9.99 and faster is a full 12 point cage certified and a competition license on top of that. I know all this as my wife has gone thru all of it with her 750whp mustang. She is now certified to run up to a 7.50 1/4mile. These bolt in cages may fool the tech inspectors to a 10.0 but beyond that, they are on you. A real legal cage is attached to the chasis not just bolt in to the floor board. Plus they do a thickness check of the bars themselves.

That one is crap for drag racing. You need a minimum of a 6 point full cage to run faster than a 11.49. 10.0-11.49 is a 6 point. 9.99 and faster is a full 12 point cage certified and a competition license on top of that. I know all this as my wife has gone thru all of it with her 750whp mustang. She is now certified to run up to a 7.50 1/4mile. These bolt in cages may fool the tech inspectors to a 10.0 but beyond that, they are on you. A real legal cage is attached to the chasis not just bolt in to the floor board. Plus they do a thickness check of the bars themselves.

I checked on gettin a True NHRA legal cage...around here it would cost between $1,800-$2500 plus about 2-3 weeks of downtime :(

All of a sudden $300 bucks ain't lookin to bad :lol:

Whats funny is if you are just barely running a 11.40 or so, and then install a serious cage, odds are you won't be running under 11.5 due to the added weight!

hmmm... interesting. Prolly expensive... and more than likely goes where my PPG interlockers are :mad: :furious:

def

Interlock is the same thing. It only makes gear changes easier, has nothing to do with not being able go 1-2-1. I have a MRT box with all the bells and whistles, and the shifter gizmo. Still super easy to go 1-2-1. I want to make a shift gate that has a one-way gate for first gear. You can only get into 1st if you press a lever. I have seen 11,000 RPM twice now. It makes your heart stop.

Did Andrew tell you guys about a track rental last month at MIR. I rented both lanes for Subys and Buick GNs. Phil came out from element, and a few more shops. We'll be doing it again in the fall. Come on out. Check the local area forums in a month for date.

If you want a cage just to be "legal" and not for safety, you can run the ghetto rig I saw somewhere a few years ago (Norwalk, E-town, Atco, can't remember?). The guy had PVC painted black, padding and all, and had them zip tied in. Looked like a rollcage if it wasn't inspected closely.

Autofab racecars right past the intersection of rt 100 and rt 1 does chromoly custom cages. Not sure of the price though. I'm sure it's expensive.

Frank

Frank

what are the rules for role cages? I thought it was moved from 11.99 to 11.49, anyone know? Either way, you're faster than both so you need a cage anyway. I'm hoping for 11's this weekend at Nopi.

All depends on what state you live in. In NJ anything under 11.9 you need at least a 6pt cage.

what are the rules for role cages? I thought it was moved from 11.99 to 11.49, anyone know? Either way, you're faster than both so you need a cage anyway. I'm hoping for 11's this weekend at Nopi.
All depends on what state you live in. In NJ anything under 11.9 you need at least a 6pt cage.It has nothing to do with the state you live in.

NHRA track: rollbar needed at 11.99 or faster
(http://www.nhra.com/contacts/tech_faq.html)

IHRA track: rollbar needed at 11.49 or faster

sorry to go off topic, but what about the new C6? doesn't it run sub 12's from the factory? is it required to have a bar?

2005 NHRA rules have changed to 11.49 and faster period. $1800 is about what you should expect to pay for a nice, legal, and safe roll cage that will pass inspection. Anything less, and you have to question that tracks integrity for letting you run with a piece of crap. If all you are running is a 11.40, I'd personally dial back boost to just hit 11.5's and 11.6's consistantly and be happy with that. Or get used to running hard the first 1/8 mile then braking hard the last 330'.

that's no way to get into the tens...:lol: but it makes sense

2005 NHRA rules have changed to 11.49 and faster period.Ahh... yes, they did change for 2005:
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2005/rules/GeneralRegulations.pdf

I am not gonna rag on the car just to brake early ;)

I plan on upgrading the turbo real soon... so dialling back is not an option. I need a cage. So, I guess I'll have to get one soon. :(

The 11.49 rule was changed to that BECAUSE of the new cars that can run sub 11.99 with hardly anything done... and they can do it safely, ie- Z06, Vipers, etc, etc.

Noone who pays $50k+ is gonna wanna throw a cage in right after they make their purchase just to be legal at a track... thus the rule was dropped to 11.49.

def

def

Interlock is the same thing. It only makes gear changes easier, has nothing to do with not being able go 1-2-1. I have a MRT box with all the bells and whistles, and the shifter gizmo. Still super easy to go 1-2-1. I want to make a shift gate that has a one-way gate for first gear. You can only get into 1st if you press a lever. I have seen 11,000 RPM twice now. It makes your heart stop.

Did Andrew tell you guys about a track rental last month at MIR. I rented both lanes for Subys and Buick GNs. Phil came out from element, and a few more shops. We'll be doing it again in the fall. Come on out. Check the local area forums in a month for date.

As for making gear changes easier... HA! If it were easier, I wouldn't have went 1-2-1, lol! Its because the interlocker makes the 2-3 shift HARDER that I even made it into 1st... :(

Yea, I'd like to have a gate like that too. Be VERY nice.

Andrew never mentioned anything about the track rental. I would have loved to go. I have a coupel friends who run GN's, too. Could have been fun. I'll stay tuned for the next one ;) Thanks.

def

Hey Doug,
In this area you can check out Rhodes Body Shop just outside Middletown. If you are going down RT1 you will see it on the right at about the 83 mile mark on RT1. I got my cage put in by Montana Bros. in NY and its certified for 7.50. Dont think that you want any thing other than a roll bar right now so you shouldnt have to spend near what these guys are telling you. You can probably get a CM rollbar for no more than a 1000 custom and you would be able to add on to that later if you continue to go faster.
The bolt ins are crap for what you want. They are heavier metal and they are not legal. You might be able to BS some inspector at a junky track but any real inspector is not going to pass it.
If you want any other info just PM me. :)
Gregg

My wife spent $1800 on her 12 point cage that is certified to go as low as a 7.50. A 6 point cage is needed to make the car legitimate at any track to run faster than a 11.49, but no faster than a 10.0 @ 135. Once you pass that ET and MPH you MUST be teched as a Super Gas car. You probably will not spend the full $1800, but you will spend $1000+ to get legal. If you do plan on going faster in the future like this guy said, you will have a good base that can be added on to. That Cusco cage and all other cages pictured in this thread are only good for auto-x or road racing. They are absolutely crap when it comes to a NHRA legal track.

My wife spent $1800 on her 12 point cage that is certified to go as low as a 7.50. A 6 point cage is needed to make the car legitimate at any track to run faster than a 11.49, but no faster than a 10.0 @ 135. Once you pass that ET and MPH you MUST be teched as a Super Gas car. You probably will not spend the full $1800, but you will spend $1000+ to get legal. If you do plan on going faster in the future like this guy said, you will have a good base that can be added on to. That Cusco cage and all other cages pictured in this thread are only good for auto-x or road racing. They are absolutely crap when it comes to a NHRA legal track.

Thanks for the info.

Sooo... I need a 6-point cage, not a bar.

def

what are you gonna up grade your turbo to?

http://www.chassisengineering.com/products.html

prices here:
http://www.chassisengineering.com/pdf/page13-14.pdf

very reasonable and approved. chromemoly or mild steel. a 6 point roll bar in chromemoly goes for $320. modular, so you can add on to the 6 point to go out to 8, 10 and 12 points as required. options include swing-out side bars gates and the ability to keep your rear seat with a rear strut option. they will fax you a form to document your measurements.

if i don't have it done locally i'm going with these guys. i'm hoping to be ready for the august shootout.

http://www.chassisengineering.com/products.html

prices here:
http://www.chassisengineering.com/pdf/page13-14.pdf

very reasonable and approved. chromemoly or mild steel. a 6 point roll bar in chromemoly goes for $320. modular, so you can add on to the 6 point to go out to 8, 10 and 12 points as required. options include swing-out side bars gates and the ability to keep your rear seat with a rear strut option. they will fax you a form to document your measurements.

if i don't have it done locally i'm going with these guys. i'm hoping to be ready for the august shootout.


Wait a minute...let me get this straight...
You think that you are just going to go out and buy some cheap modular roll bar and its just going to pop right into the car..and then you are going to just get more bars and add on to make it stronger....
Chrome-moly too? Are you skilled at TIG welding or were you thinking of just drilling holes and bolting it in?
Here's some advice you can take it or leave it....I have a 8.50 cage in my car that is certified by NHRA. The only reason its not rated for 7.50 is because I have swing out bars because I drive it on the street.
You buy all that modular stuff and who is going to installl it for you?
Do yourself a favor and call a real chassis shop before you end up with a lot of modular part for a cage and a welder tells you he wants a 1000 to install it.
Or you might get a cheap guy and he hacks up your car's interior because he is not skilled at building cages...
I am not trying to bash your info...just telling you there are a lot of hidden charges that you have yet to pay if you buy that stuff.
Thats what these forums are for to help people so they dont the wrong thing and end up spend more money later....

Thanks for the info.

Sooo... I need a 6-point cage, not a bar.

def

Doug,
Just click on this link.... http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2005/rules/GeneralRegulations.pdf
and check pages 87-89 and then choose for yourself how fast your trying for and then you know what you need. :)
And just so you know. You can run a roll bar all the way down to 10.0 as long as you dont alter the firewall or floor....

Doug,
Just click on this link.... http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2005/rules/GeneralRegulations.pdf
and check pages 87-89 and then choose for yourself how fast your trying for and then you know what you need. :)
And just so you know. You can run a roll bar all the way down to 10.0 as long as you dont alter the firewall or floor....


Exactly!!! So much misinfo on this thread. This guy and myself(representing my wife) have certified cages and know what a hassle it is to get them certified to NHRA standards. NHRA is VERY maticulous about any roll cage they are gonna certify. You must have wall thicknesses verified, and no bolt ons whatsoever when it comes to reinforcing to a higher point cage. After you get the cage in, you then have to put padding that is NHRA approved on every bar your head(helmet) can come in contact with.

Wait a minute...let me get this straight...
You think that you are just going to go out and buy some cheap modular roll bar and its just going to pop right into the car...

you know, i've never seen someone with their foot in their mouth AND their head up their a** simultaneously before...but that's what happens when you shoot your mouth off before knowing all the facts.

if i go that route i'm ordering the materials from chassis engineering and i have an experienced mechanic who's done approved roll cages before working in my own shop to weld it into the interior.

you could have saved some time and a whole lot attitude by not being so eager to be critical. to show you what a sport i am, i have an extra length of bar to pry that foot out of your mouth... but your head looks good right where it is.

Doug,

Just ask your track what they want to see. I'm assuming you are only running for fun so they might say you don't need the 6-point cage and maybe let you get away with a roll bar.

Hell, they were letting you get away with nothing before ;)

From that PDF:
"Mandatory in all cars running quicker than 10.99 seconds or faster
than 135 mph, or per Class Requirements. Cars with unaltered
firewall, floor, and body (from firewall rearward, wheeltubs
permitted) running between 10.00 and 10.99, roll bar permitted in
place of roll cage, or per Class Requirements."

Well Doug, it looks like you can get away with a roll bar. I doubt you've cut in to your car in any way, correct? After looking at the roll bar on page 87 I have to say if this is your daily driver it might not be after installing one of those. Looks like a bitch to get in and out of the drivers seat and it looks like the back seat wouldn't be very passenger friendly.

you know, i've never seen someone with their foot in their mouth AND their head up their a** simultaneously before...but that's what happens when you shoot your mouth off before knowing all the facts.

if i go that route i'm ordering the materials from chassis engineering and i have an experienced mechanic who's done approved roll cages before working in my own shop to weld it into the interior.

you could have saved some time and a whole lot attitude by not being so eager to be critical. to show you what a sport i am, i have an extra length of bar to pry that foot out of your mouth... but your head looks good right where it is.

You see Doug:
This is the reason why you dont ask some questions on forums..

What you have here is someone that is giving you advice on something that they have never done.
Guess what we can all look at ads on the internet too.
He was looking for answers from people that actually know something.
not from someone who is buying CM pipe on the internet. Hope that your wallet is as big as your mouth. :lol: :lol:

Do us all a favor and take a picture or your interior before and after you do the install..that way we can use it to show people what you get when you get an experienced mechanic who has built cages before.
Also be sure and save us the receipts so we can add up the total cost of how much you spend and how long it takes for you to get it done.
Get a clue....you get what you pay for...and I am sure that you will have plenty of extra lengths of pipe leftover since you have no clue what you need to order :lol: :lol:

Oh hold me back sharp wit..never had to defend myself against someone that knows so much about cage builders as someone who is buying CM pipe on the internet. Hope that your wallet is as big as your mouth

it's much bigger. don't confuse me with a cheap b*st*rd like yourself.

Do us all a favor and take a picture or your interior before and after you do the install..that way we can use it to show people what you get when you get an experienced mechanic who has built cages before.

you can follow the project right here. http://www.imprezawrxsti.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23326
i'll even have a video of me smacking it on the ass when it starts.

here's a tip for you. the next time you make an attempt to be helpful to someone, start by being civil
(or at least be as funny).

Uh oh..looks like we have another challenge that should be settled at EVO-WRX challenge in August..
Seems like lately there have been a lot of challenges and just in time for Englishtown :banana: :banana:

This years challenge will be awesome if all these people show up.

Good Luck building your cage Doug :)

You see Doug:
This is the reason why you dont ask some questions on forums..

What you have here is someone that is giving you advice on something that they have never done.
Guess what we can all look at ads on the internet too.
He was looking for answers from people that actually know something.
not from someone who is buying CM pipe on the internet. Hope that your wallet is as big as your mouth

i can keep editing posts, too.

I'm gettin a EVOM typa vibe :lol:
Lets settle this on the racetrack

Sometime before the fights and the wreck.

I ran 16.xxx (1-2-1 shift), 11.40 @ 125.33, 11.70 @ 124.XX, 11.45 @ 124.9X... then they stopped me.

They actually stopped me 1st time up, saying they new I was under, but to keep it over. The guy laughed at my 1st run when I came back around... he said, "I told you to keep it over 11.49 but it I didn't mean to run a 16!"

They were all over me... every official between the top and the bottom said something to me on one run or another until the last time I got in line and was told to pull out :(

def

That's the trick... once you can run these speeds the new trick is to keep from going under. The pro's are great at that, they could dial a 11.51 four times in a row :) Keep going and you'll be old hat at it too. Nice numbers.

Doug,

go to the NHRA website and order a rulebook, visit your local chassis shop, ask racers in your area who built their cars. I would suggest giving their car a look to see if thats the quality you are looking for. A great idea would be to look in a NHRA Stock or Super Stock class car, these cars have full interior and full spec roll bars and cages.

Steve (NHRA member since 1987)

damn , nice#'s doug, my boy jaime with the white integra was talking to you last week for me, still waiting for inj. before i slap this sr55 turbo on. so whats next? some of my buddies out in woodbridge build roll cages, the new nu image called revtech motorsports 7034974650ask for tyler tell em k.c. referred you. prob under 1k for a 6 point.

If you want a cage just to be "legal" and not for safety, you can run the ghetto rig I saw somewhere a few years ago (Norwalk, E-town, Atco, can't remember?). The guy had PVC painted black, padding and all, and had them zip tied in. Looked like a rollcage if it wasn't inspected closely.


haha thats awesome

You would think so....:lol: j/k

You should use old paper towel cylinders!!

anyone know anyhting about insurance issues. My company wont insure my car with a cage. I see the reasons for this, but what does everyone else do?

dug-e-fresh.......how big is the motor on your car? 2.0L, 2.2L, 2.5L, 2.8L?

dug-e-fresh.......how big is the motor on your car? 2.0L, 2.2L, 2.5L, 2.8L?
He is running a 2.0 and it's a V8 I think :confused:

2.0L v7 block

yep, 100% stock 2.0L Version 7 STi.

def

yep, 100% stock 2.0L Version 7 STi.

def

low 11s, high 12x mph from a 2.0L.....wow, impressive :eek:

He is running a 2.0 and it's a V8 I think :confused:

2.0L v7 block

Thanks guys ;)