http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a...fe/9daf1b8a.bmp <dyno plot>

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a215/boost4life/9daf1b8a.bmp


I just got back from turbo xs saturday. I'm pleased with my results.
I pulled 278whp 233 trq before tuning and when they finished I ended up with 323 whp 278trq , they said they never seen a stg 4 car with the pinks and vf 30 make that kind of power.
I would highly suggest taking your car there for a utec tune.
Nathan and Jermaine really hooked me up , thanks again for the awesome tune.
I also took it out to monrovia 7580 dragway just to see what i could manage with out beating the car , My best time was 12.78@106.18 with a 1.78 60 ft time .That was my last run and it was going lower each run . I had to learn where to shift with the new power band , I know it could probably do 12.6 however i'll probably never run it.

Shell v-power 93 octane
mobil 1 with lucas oil teatment engine and tranny
UTEC
helix top mount
STI pinks
VF-30
wahlbro 255 fp
thermo tech wrapped borla header
ERZ racing up down pipe both wrapped
blitz nur-spec catback
Perrin turbo inlet hose
AEM CAI
AEM alternator pulley
ebay grounding kit
pivot voltage stabilizer
crucial racing 160 thermo stat
one step colder copper plugs

I thinks thats about it

Sounds like a good, cost-effective setup. Congrats on the numbers.

so what do you think about the lucas oil??? im just curious.

i assume ur catless by the good #'s on a VF 30.
good times w/ the 1/4 mile times too.

im sure if u were a little more aggressive with ur driving, u could of got a mid 12 sec run or better.

I think it's pretty good stuff , i first saw it back at a NOPI event and the guy told me it was dyno proven, I figure it cant hurt , I dont burn any oil so it must be good + it's officially a NHRA recognized company .

Yea , when im ready to put a new clutch and take the risk of breaking the tranny i'll try for better times. I get really nervious getting on it to often ,I'm running somewhere around 180-190 hp per liter.

Saving up for the 2.5 shortblock I hope...

well i know lucas is great for bandaids on used car lots. you can take any POS and put that stuff in it and it will quit smoking and sound good.....for a bit. funny this is the first time ive seen it used in a car thats good to go.

Maybe it gives free hp as well :D

This is not the lucas heavy duty treatment it's the new vehicle formula, designed for light weight synthetic oils.

Saving up for the 2.5 shortblock I hope...

That was the plan , or a JDM sti engine

oh yeah forgot to ask
how much boost?

19.5psi in 4TH gear, Nathan told me i got a good VF-30 to hold that amount of boost.
He basically tunes the cars till they aren't making easy power so he said he didn't have to push the car.
But i got a daily driver map at about 16psi that i'm running now.
They also gave 3 variations of the low boost map for progressivly cooler weather

this thread makes me very happy.
very cost effective mods..
pix of your ride?

are you still on stock tranny?

I'm at work now , i'll post a few pics wednesday

So that was flywheel hp/tq or wheel? With those 1/4 mile times seems like flywheel is prob it.

nice setup and great numbers..very similar what i'm planning for my wrx.
whats your whp goal and have you even reached it :devil: )? a short block would make your car a beast.

don't be shy on that tranny for the 1/4 mi

this is stock tranny?

They always say "Flywheel" - note the Torque Correction Factor of 1.0 - it's wheel horsepower. the dynapack always reads slightly higher

this is stock tranny?

It's a stock tranny for now , but i have plans in the future :devil:

nice setup and great numbers..very similar what i'm planning for my wrx.
whats your whp goal and have you even reached it :devil: )? a short block would make your car a beast.

don't be shy on that tranny for the 1/4 mi

I've reached my HP goal for now , but more power is always on my mind

Thats pretty impressive for for you set up, nice job.

With those 1/4 mile times seems like flywheel is prob it.

I made almost 80 hp less and trapped almost 2mph higher in the 1/4.

good numbers, none the less. :cool:

I've reached my HP goal for now , but more power is always on my mind
Nice setup.
Cost effective, quick, trouble free :banana:

Sounds like a good, cost-effective setup. Congrats on the numbers.
this thread makes me very happy.
very cost effective mods.. pix of your ride?

are you still on stock tranny?
Are you guys on crack? I dont see why people are still doing this to WRX's since the STi came out. There are at least 3 STi's in the private for sale classifieds with 15k or less miles going for $24k. Imagine having one of those for $24k and putting the $3-5k in parts and labor that you put into your wrx. Now that would be cost effective and fastAr.
I'm not knocking your setup at all, I had a similar setup with a vf34 back in 2001. But I just dont see the cost effectiveness. My setup is in no way cost effective either. Plus if you started with an STi it would be way more reliable.
Do you have a c16 tune also? That would hall some booty. Sweet 60' time too. I wish i could drive like that.

$1000 UTEC
$1000 helix top mount
$ 500 STI pinks
$ 700 VF-30
$ 100 wahlbro 255 fp
$ 500 thermo tech wrapped borla header
$ 500 ERZ racing up down pipe both wrapped
$ 500 blitz nur-spec catback
$ 125 Perrin turbo inlet hose
$ 200 AEM CAI
$ 100 AEM alternator pulley
$ 10 ebay grounding kit
$ 10 pivot voltage stabilizer
$ 80 crucial racing 160 thermo stat
$ 50 one step colder copper plugs

Total $5300 + labor.

ok but still, you can get a WRX for 12-13 and say 5-6 to take care of all your weak WRX issues, gears included, have a lighter car that is amazingly fast for the money.

Just because the STi comes out doesn't mean that all the WRX guys are wasting their money.

JM2C

Btw, great results on a 30. Save for that 2.5 ;)

Are you guys on crack? I dont see why people are still doing this to WRX's since the STi came out. There are at least 3 STi's in the private for sale classifieds with 15k or less miles going for $24k. Imagine having one of those for $24k and putting the $3-5k in parts and labor that you put into your wrx. Now that would be cost effective and fastAr.
I'm not knocking your setup at all, I had a similar setup with a vf34 back in 2001. But I just dont see the cost effectiveness. My setup is in no way cost effective either. Plus if you started with an STi it would be way more reliable.
Do you have a c16 tune also? That would hall some booty. Sweet 60' time too. I wish i could drive like that.

I never spent that much on it , And did everything myself except for my first mod , the uppipe, in which i had local club members help, so actually i never payed for anything but the parts
One way to look at it , i Got a new car broke it in the way i wanted and still got less money in it then the STI.
But yea sometimes i do kick myself for not getting a STI but my altimate goal was not that much power at the time.

ok but still, you can get a WRX for 12-13 and say 5-6 to take care of all your weak WRX issues, gears included, have a lighter car that is amazingly fast for the money.

Just because the STi comes out doesn't mean that all the WRX guys are wasting their money.

JM2C

Btw, great results on a 30. Save for that 2.5 ;)

Your right about a lighter car , I still beat my buddy's STI with a TBE esp on top end. thats good enough for me :D

Don't forget tax, shipping, hours of dyno time....

If you buy an STI you get the interior, wheels+tires, Brembos, 6 speed, 2.5l....

But guys still modify V6 Camaros/Mustangs, that doesn't make sense to me either.

323 whp and 106mph traps? Right.

i just like the bugeyes, i wouldnt trade my baby for one of those ugly bastards! i dont mind picking up sti parts though, motor, tranny, ect lol

I made almost 80 hp less and trapped almost 2mph higher in the 1/4.

good numbers, none the less. :cool:

SHoulda gone to a fastar dyno dood :lol:

are those the kinda numbers to be expected form a 30? Im in the market for a new turbo and i thought i would need a 22 to get those kinda numbers.

I never spent that much on it , And did everything myself except for my first mod , the uppipe, in which i had local club members help, so actually i never payed for anything but the parts
One way to look at it , i Got a new car broke it in the way i wanted and still got less money in it then the STI.
But yea sometimes i do kick myself for not getting a STI but my altimate goal was not that much power at the time.
I figured you probably did the work yourself as they are all bolt on parts. Yes you got less money in it than a brand new STi but you could have had one of these for the same price or less than what you paid.
MA: 2004 STi, Blue/Silver, 15k miles - $22,000
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=787899

FS/IL: 2004 STI, white/gold $23,500
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=786029
Tein S-Tech Springs (stock alignment)
Kartboy short shifter
Kartboy shifter bushing
OEM Bridgestone tires (3K miles)
Fumoto oil drain valve
Pink JDM "i" badge on front grill (authentic)
STI embroidered floormats
Subaru All weather floormats
15% tint on back 3 windows/brow
35K miles
$23,500


http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=791694
I'm looking to get rid of my STi(unfortunately). She's java black pearl, in excellent condition with 14,600 miles. Only issues are damaged rim and bumper(hit a curb), and she needs front speakers for the radio(have factory 6-disc and rear speakers). Other than those things, never been in an accident or anything like that. Also, the car has never been modified, and synthetic oil is used in the car. looking to get $24,500...email me at jonp@pobox.com or pm me w/questions and/or offers...Thanks, Jonny


If you buy an STI you get the interior, wheels+tires, Brembos, 6 speed, 2.5l....
Exactly my point. Especially the stock 6 speed that is currently handling over 700 ft*lbs in puerto rico.

are those the kinda numbers to be expected form a 30? Im in the market for a new turbo and i thought i would need a 22 to get those kinda numbers.

I pulled 278whp 233 trq before tuning and when they finished I ended up with 323 whp 278trq

He doesnt actually have 325 whp and his traps show this. I dynoed 350 whp and trap 115 mph. And DEF and mikaust dyno 450 whp on the txs dyno and and trap 125+mph.
Its better to look at his delta from his baseline run and his #'s after tuning. Which are crazy in themselves. Picking up 54 whp and 44 ft*lbs from a tune is crazy.
But looking at his dyno numbers are pointless. He ran a 12.78@106 and thats damn good.
Any of the vf series turbos will be within 25 hp of each other. There are people with 22's, 30's, 34's, 39's all in the 12's. People are even in the 12's on the stock wrx turbo. Even 12.0's on the stock wrx turbo + nitrous.
Couple of guys even have vf39's on wrx's and ran 11.8 and 12.0 without nitrous.
A lot is possible with the vf turbos. But a lot depends on the tune and a lot on the driver. But those 2 guys in PR are just insane. 11.8 on a stock block, stock tranny wrx with basic bolt ons and a c16 tune. I havent seen others close to that without nitrous.

Based on the fact that the car only ran 106mph through the 1/4 mile and that the graphs both say flywheel power I am thinking that the power is at the flywheel and not the wheels...

i just like the bugeyes, i wouldnt trade my baby for one of those ugly bastards! i dont mind picking up sti parts though, motor, tranny, ect lol
Bug eyes all the way! I add myself to the list of "wouldn't trade my baby for one of those ugly bastards". Since the STI came out everyone that looks at my car and says "It's just a wrx". I like it that way.

OK, I know i asked orig if this was wheel or flywheel but I think those # are impressive either way. i am on a v8 engine, vf-37 with full atless exhst and hyperfloww v2 tmic, ecutek, and i was at abt 280/300. i haven't run a 1/4 and have no idea realyl what i wud run like this, but for a ej205 to eb over 300 that is pretty sweet, now depending on teh area under the curve, that makes a big diff. my graph has a whole lot under the curve..just inerested in what others have done, sti or wrx. and i have spent WAY TOO much $$$ on this, I wud rather have an STI with no probs than what i have, even though it isnt as quick. I woudl guess abt $20k into this after said and done, adn i have done a lot myself, and a US STI even though not as fast wud jus be easier.

-Matt

:furious:

you should have bought an STi, your just wasting your time on a WRX. it's like modding a V6 Camaro or Mustang...... :rolleyes:

Bob - that dyno is slow. :lol:

you should have bought an STi, your just wasting your time on a WRX. it's like modding a V6 Camaro or Mustang...... :rolleyes:


:lol: Yeah, I agree with you. Whoever wrote that post has a few screws loose.

you should have bought an STi, your just wasting your time on a WRX. it's like modding a V6 Camaro or Mustang...... :rolleyes:

I originally said he should have just gotten a used STi and started there instead of a WRX. I realize there are certain financial situations that would prevent many people from getting a new STi, but if you can get approved for a new $24k wrx you should have no problem getting approved for a used $24k STi.

And its in no way a waste of time for anyone to mod their car. Everyone does what they can or what they want.
But in the long run a used STi will be cheaper (most of the time) and more reliable (most of the time) than buying a NEW WRX and modding it to stage 4 and beyond.

unless you want a wagon, then you are screwed :furious:

unless you want a wagon, then you are screwed :furious:
Then you just buy a Outback or Forester 2.5xt and install a GT35R kit :) .

Then you can get to the mountain to ski or snowboard really fast. :lol:

Nice numbers Jason, and good to see you finally made it to the track.
Ignore the haters.
People mod the cars they have, not the cars they dont.

If it was all about going fast, you can run 11's in a ****box for less than 10K total.

wow...that is actually about the same set up I am looking to have on my car come the end of summer
very nice numbers and unusually high :disco:

Thanks for support from the HR crew, Everyone says I should be running better times for the whp, I only ran 4 times and screwed up 3 runs. All i wanted to see was at least upper 12's.
When i got home I reliezed I was shifting to late past my new power band, Everyone should know this was my first time to the track with this car , So im still saying i got good #'s
My friends STI with BTE that day ran 13.38 @100.5 another guy with a 03 evo with TBE PORTED O2 housing injen intake and a reflash ran a best of 13.23 @103

Everyone talking all this crap about my #'s dont match my dyno . It could be my driving, I know from a roll I easilly pull away from my buddy's sti with the TBE Before the tune !!!! and the SRt-4 stg 2 265 whp 2500lbs car after tune <Track reference
I'm happy with what i got for running the (first time) im still learning the car so hate on someone else :)

Your right about a lighter car , I still beat my buddy's STI with a TBE esp on top end. thats good enough for me :D

:furious: SHUT UP JASON!!!
lets not talk about what happens in a heads up race!!!! :banana:

Based on the fact that the car only ran 106mph through the 1/4 mile and that the graphs both say flywheel power I am thinking that the power is at the flywheel and not the wheels...

Man first of all, i was there with him when nathan from Turbo XS tunned his car, and he Specifically explained and stated that WAS wheel hp, now i can also testify that he was very very worried to push his car at the track becouse of again what they told him that with this kind of power his tranny and engine are just an accident waiting to happen (on a WRX) so once again how many times do you folks have to hear it.

I originally said he should have just gotten a used STi and started there instead of a WRX. I realize there are certain financial situations that would prevent many people from getting a new STi, but if you can get approved for a new $24k wrx you should have no problem getting approved for a used $24k STi.

And its in no way a waste of time for anyone to mod their car. Everyone does what they can or what they want.
But in the long run a used STi will be cheaper (most of the time) and more reliable (most of the time) than buying a NEW WRX and modding it to stage 4 and beyond.


I mean people i have an STI, and listening to what you are saying its crazy, some poeple like you said MAY not have the financial abiliity to buy and sti and to reply to your "whell if you can buy a new wrx for 24k you can buy a used STI for 24K is not necessarely true. first of all you may be able to afford an STI at this prize but not the INSURANCE. which was my deal, and why i FIRST got a wrx and then got an sti. On top of that me personally, i dont want somebody esles headeck specially on a used sti, are you kidding me those cars get abused.. I would much rather start on a virgin knowing that i am the only one who has messed with the car...

I mean people i have an STI, and listening to what you are saying its crazy, some poeple like you said MAY not have the financial abiliity to buy and sti and to reply to your "whell if you can buy a new wrx for 24k you can buy a used STI for 24K is not necessarely true. first of all you may be able to afford an STI at this prize but not the INSURANCE. which was my deal, and why i FIRST got a wrx and then got an sti. On top of that me personally, i dont want somebody esles headache specially on a used sti, are you kidding me those cars get abused.. I would much rather start on a virgin knowing that i am the only one who has messed with the car...


Well said. Bugeyes are better looking. No wagons. Brembos are pretty, but not a deal breaker by any means. Wings suck ass. I'll take the sti engine, trans, and pay a little extra to get a unique car I worked my ass off for. Oh yeah, I like my 16s.

Nice numbers.

Ignore the haters.
People mod the cars they have, not the cars they dont.

If it was all about going fast, you can run 11's in a ****box for less than 10K total.
I'm not hatin. I have a bugeye that runs 12's not an STi. I have just been curious lately about people still heavily modding the WRX. Someone in another thread said the STi was $600 more a year for insurance and that just ble my mind.
Bugeyes 4EVAR.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/phatron/RonWatsonsWRXEngineTrophiesNight.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/phatron/RonWatsonsWRXEngineCloseUpDaytime.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/phatron/RonsCar.jpg

Based on the fact that the car only ran 106mph through the 1/4 mile and that the graphs both say flywheel power I am thinking that the power is at the flywheel and not the wheels...
Like I said before dont even look at the dyno #'s. They dont matter. The dyno is a tuning device.

I dynoed 365-375 whp at XS Engineering and a week or two later I dynoed 205 whp at Easystreet and was trapping 105-106 mph.

Egad, now thats a swing in power, looks like you should take an average of the two :D

Like I was saying before , it was my first time at the track.
My peak hp is 6200 and i was shifting at 7050, I think if i shift at 6700 i might do better.
All I do know of even care is that the car was fast before the tune and allot faster after, thats all that matters , how the car feels driving. case closed

I spent less than $1,800, total, for my 'Cobb Stg 2.5.' This was over a period of 2 years since I was unsure what I wanted to do with the car. This was very affordable. I'll tell you right now, I looked at the Sti, and there is no way I could afford one right now... even your used $23k one. I'm very happy and don't plan on spending any more $ on my car. I feel like I did a hell of a job getting a great, reliable, and fun AWD drive, 4 door car that is very quick. I'm not looking for a race car, bragging rights, or bling. I am very happy with my car. Please tell me where I went wrong!

btw, I think your just upset because you spent way too much money on your wrx over at esx of all places :lol:

I'm not hatin. I have a bugeye that runs 12's not an STi. I have just been curious lately about people still heavily modding the WRX.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/phatron/RonsCar.jpg

if I had that car, I would get an STi in a heartbeat. :lol:

if I had that car, I would get an STi in a heartbeat. :lol:

zing!

if I had that car, I would get an STi in a heartbeat. :lol:
I would too, but I cant afford the insurance. :lol:

Everyone that just jumps on the trade in your WRX and mod an STi band wagon has to realize...you're not going to get good money for your WRX (you're going to have to wind up selling it privately because trading it in would only help if you were buying another Subaru) and to get a cheap STi you have to buy privately, so then you take the 50/50 chance that the car was beaten/mistreated...now you already have to spend more money on insurance/payments and then mod the car..its not "just" as easy as everyone thinks or we would all be driving STi's.

I'm not hatin. I have a bugeye that runs 12's not an STi. I have just been curious lately about people still heavily modding the WRX. Someone in another thread said the STi was $600 more a year for insurance and that just ble my mind.
Bugeyes 4EVAR.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/phatron/RonWatsonsWRXEngineTrophiesNight.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/phatron/RonWatsonsWRXEngineCloseUpDaytime.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/phatron/RonsCar.jpg


DAMN Phatron thats a pimp Ride ...

Nice pimpin ride

DAMN Phatron thats a pimp Ride ...
Thanks. Thread jack. :lol:

I love it, but its not even close to being done in my mind. I still wanna get some brakes, intake manifold (magnus), CF hood, CF trunk (no wing), HID's, i wanna get rid of the fugly plastic tanks in the engine bay (especially the honking wiper fluid tank), headwork, install my jun cams & springs, STi interior, some aftermarket mirrors, etc.
It never ends.

Those pics are a year or more old and the only stuff i've done since then is Tein hood dampers, optima yellowtop, speedmonkee overflow tank, and i removed my intercooler sprayer cause i live in a small town and no one sells nos here. :(
But I did get Best of Show at that car show. :)

Man, I've been swinging around on whether or not I should trade in my 2004 WRX for a STi for a long time now. I bought my car about 4 months before the STi came out and had another car that was my play car. With the price of my car brand new + TurboXS stage 3 + header + full suspension mods + 18" wheels and tires + misc. stuff my car is still less than a brand new STi before tax.

I've done the math so many times because I thought it would be cheaper for me to just buy an STi but it just doesn't work out in my favor. Sucks that you have to pay tax on the full purchase price of a car when you buy it private party.

The numbers I've been hearing "regular" wrxs putting down lately is mad encouraging. Congrats on the great numbers! I might have to take a trip down to turboXS.

Joe Lee

I've had stg 3 before, and Stg 3 to be honest is disappointing It has great power low and mid range but top end suffers, It's your choice though,

Good luck with what ever you do

I've had stg 3 before, and Stg 3 to be honest is disappointing It has great power low and mid range but top end suffers, It's your choice though,

Good luck with what ever you do


that was a little back handed for his compliment...hah

Hey Jason, carlos, i have nothing informative to add to this post at all but i popped my cherry on the NASIOC site. By the way dont let this guy fool you he got beat by a Scion and a supercharged Pinto. LOL

For some people it makes perfect sence to mod a wrx and not a sti. I got a 02 a 1 and a half ago only because I liked the bug eyes better. I had the money to buy an sti and mod it. But what is the use of buying an sti I f you are going to rip it a part and put a new motor in it any way that is why I bought a 02 in the long run it will save me money.

Bug eye > current Impreza

Hey Jason, carlos, i have nothing informative to add to this post at all but i popped my cherry on the NASIOC site. By the way dont let this guy fool you he got beat by a Scion and a supercharged Pinto. LOL


who got beat..? i'm lost.!! :confused:

He's joking carlos

who's joking lol damn man i'm lost...

Nice numbers! First time I have sceen a vf30 pull over 300 whp. Man I need a tune but I have 141k on the clock. ok ops old post but still nice numbers for a vf30 and pinks :)

Congrats, you dug up a 2-year-old thread. If you wanna see VF30s over 300 WHP, hang out around a Dynapack. :lol:

Congrats, you dug up a 2-year-old thread. If you wanna see VF30s over 300 WHP, hang out around a Dynapack. :lol:

Or my car on a mustange dyno 302
:devil: