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speedemon9
07-07-2005, 08:44 PM
I cant get it to work, i am wiring it to the dome light and it just wont go.



I have 4 wires that come from my radar. I took those and put them into the yellow wire and nutted it but when i turn on my car nothin happenes.



I dont know what to do but if anyone has pics of how theres looks that would be great

dream
07-07-2005, 08:45 PM
Your a n00b.

MikeWRX-NJ
07-07-2005, 08:58 PM
You're

DrD
07-07-2005, 09:11 PM
you connected all 4 wires to the same place and wonder why it doesn't work?

cudaeh
07-07-2005, 09:11 PM
well you have to identify what each of thouse four wires does..
Usualy trying to wire some thing comming off of any thing other than the battery direct or the fuse box is a bad idea. Your battery is putting out 12v on avrage, most lights in a car are 1.5v. your lighter in your car is 12v witch is what your detector is made to plug into ... so you are pritty much trying to wire an item that needs 12v to something that only puts out 1.5v.
find out what wires are ment for the positive turmanal.. take those wires and strip a length off of them... about an inch should do.
pull out the fuse for the intirror lights, or ignition and wrap the stripped wire around one of the 'legs' of the fuse and put it back in the fuse box with the wires attached. then find a spot under the dash board that has a nut going into something metal ... that could be a ground . take out the nut or bolt , strip a length of the negitive wire and wrap it around the bolt, then put the bolt (or nut) back on with the wire sanwiched between the metal and the fastner.
thats the simpleist way i can explain how to wire any thing.

offset
07-07-2005, 09:31 PM
Search.

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Diode663
07-08-2005, 11:26 AM
Can this be for real? all 4 wires connected to one?

Mulder
07-08-2005, 11:31 AM
Sorry cudeh, but what you said makes no sense and your wiring "techniques" leave something to be desired. The "twist and stuff" method is not safe and isn't recommended.
All wiring should be done using proper crimps or soldered connections, insulated with heat shrink and/or electrical tape. There should be no bare wires, ground connections to bolts are made with lug terminations.
My advice to anyone doing electrical installs on your car- if you do not have the proper knowledge and experience to do it yourself, don't mess around or experiment as you can do some serious damage. Get help from someone in your area who knows what they are doing, all you have to do is ask in your local forum.

Murf_68
07-08-2005, 01:24 PM
I cant get it to work, i am wiring it to the dome light and it just wont go.

I have 4 wires that come from my radar. I took those and put them into the yellow wire and nutted it but when i turn on my car nothin happenes.

I dont know what to do but if anyone has pics of how theres looks that would be great
I hooked up my Valentine V1 by tapping in to the electrochromic mirror wiring harness that was taped behind the map lights. One wire is switched power, one ground and the other goes to a switch on reverse gear (to undim the mirror when in reverse gear). There are wiring diagrams online (Ravensblade?) that might help. As for the wires on your detector, I don't know why there are 4 of them unless some are for accessories.

Prob best to contact the manufacturer for info/kit on how to hard wire it.

Good luck

Mark

subieworx
07-08-2005, 09:51 PM
I hardwired my 8500 into the stereo power and ground. Search, I did a write up. The color wires might even be the same as your Valentine.

ScoobyNubieToo!
07-08-2005, 11:04 PM
Pay the hacks at Circuit City $60 to do it before you mess your car up.....

cudaeh
07-09-2005, 09:21 PM
Sorry cudeh, but what you said makes no sense and your wiring "techniques" leave something to be desired. The "twist and stuff" method is not safe and isn't recommended.
All wiring should be done using proper crimps or soldered connections, insulated with heat shrink and/or electrical tape. There should be no bare wires, ground connections to bolts are made with lug terminations.
My advice to anyone doing electrical installs on your car- if you do not have the proper knowledge and experience to do it yourself, don't mess around or experiment as you can do some serious damage. Get help from someone in your area who knows what they are doing, all you have to do is ask in your local forum.
yes when you have a wire to wire contact solder and heat wrap is a must. but when you are trying to pull a power sorce from some where and do not feel confident enough to splice off of the cars wire harness and dont want to run a direct tap from the battery, twisting the positive off of a leg of a fuse is ideal. as long as you wrap it tight enough so it doesent bridge the legs of the fuse and use just enough wire to wrap around once or twice , when you push in the fuse the exposed wire will be shrowded on all sides by the plastic recesses of the fuse box. As far as the ground wire is consirned i guess you could be neat about it and buy an eyelet crimp connector and solder the wire to the connector to create a ground but i assume this is a temp install seeing how as most people upgrade detctors the first time they get pulled over :)
I was mearly trying to discribe a simple way to wire it for some one that does not have the experence to do it the optimal way.

WRXRgr
07-10-2005, 12:10 AM
Don't be doing that "fuse leg wrap" stuff...if you're doing an install, *know* what you need to connect to before you start, find and confirm it does what you need with your voltmeter (you can get one for ten bucks these days!), and do a legit installation, as Mulder described. Always strive to do the safest, most durable work that you can, on any circuit. The short cuts will inevitably bite you---it may be sometime later, but electricity's like rust, it never sleeps.

If this doesn't make *any* sense, then take the time to learn more about electricity and electronics, before you do any actual work with them. OJT'ing in this field can result in much regret.

stilyn_scooby
07-10-2005, 12:22 AM
ouch i can feel the flames from here.... :banana:

cudaeh
07-10-2005, 02:55 AM
ouch i can feel the flames from here.... :banana:
witch is kinda funny seeing how as i was the only one to give hime an answer to his question with out belittling him or giving him a shopping list...
flat out the fuse tap idea has worked for me in the past and for many years... I have wired stuff like that on a car and run it for the life of that car (over 5 years) and have had no problems. I find it is way safer than just tapping it off of the batter because you are going through a fuse.. if your wireing shorts it dosent start a fire. Also it doesnt put any more amprage through the wires for other systems (Ex.. taking a tap off of the cigarette wires, mirrors, radio ect...) these systems are designed for a certen amp draw and the wires are guaged accordingly.
My way is safe and easy and the only reason some dont like it is because its not there way. :banana:

WRXRgr
07-10-2005, 09:50 AM
flat out the fuse tap idea has worked for me in the past and for many years... I have wired stuff like that on a car and run it for the life of that car (over 5 years) and have had no problems. I find it is way safer than just tapping it off of the batter because you are going through a fuse.. if your wireing shorts it dosent start a fire.

My way is safe and easy and the only reason some dont like it is because its not there way. :banana:

The only reason I don't like doing things "fast and lazy" is they are unreliable, and tend to get people killed or hurt, and destroy things, in situations where none of that is desired.

"Safe" and "easy" are frequently mutually exclusive conditions in life, almost in the "fast, cheap or reliable, pick two" category.

So what could be unsafe about it? For one, your twist-n-stuck wire can come loose, and where will it be---right in a field of naked connections, the fuse block! Also, when you picked one leg of the fuse to ghetto rig your new load to, which leg of the fuse did you wrap it to---the leg in the slot going to battery, or the leg in the slot going towards the circuits? If you wrapped it on the "battery side", your new load line is UNFUSED. If your device shorts, or the insulation is damaged, that line will pull as many amps as the system can provide, heating the wire till it melts (assuming your system is in average health, and the wire gauge is thin enough to wrap on a fuse leg), most likely starting a fire in the process.

Assuming you did ensure your "twist rig" was done on the "downstream" leg of the fuse, what happens when you pull the fuse for trouble shooting, or blow it, since you've added an additional load to a circuit, that was designed and fused for a certain ampacity---the amount needed for the OEM components on that line, not for whatever you've added---and you put your rigged fuse in "backwards" by accident? See paragraph above, for answer!

You provided another example of "unsafe and easy", also---you said "I find it is way safer than just tapping it off of the batter because you are going through a fuse" ...well, that's Just Plain Wrong (tm)! When you add a line to the "batter", you fuse the line, with it's own new fuseholder, holding a fuse rated for the load of that new line. :huh:

Glad you have five years experience...I've been working (and still learning about), professionally or as a hobbyist, in electronics and things electrical for over thirty years.

...and what lights in the vehicle are 1.5 volts circuits? :)

Mulder
07-10-2005, 10:11 AM
WRRXgr, I agree with you 110%. I could have made the exact same post you just did, but now I don't have to. ;)
I stand by what I said earlier.

cudaeh
07-10-2005, 01:55 PM
and i stand by what I say .. I dissagree that this is a "ghetto rig". Flat out I offered a safe (and yes it is safe) way for him to wire his item. Thats what he asked for, thats what i gave him. All that has come from it so far has been people comming out of the wood work to proclame that there way is better... and to tell some one with a lagit question that they are a noob... this is the exact reason I hate this forum.. spend less time pleasuring your self while you look for something to tare some one appart over and more time trying to help people and maby this place would be less of a joke.
you dont like my method, fine tell the person with the question how to do it 'right'.
when all is said and done you guys are not going to change how i think about this topic. I personally solder and tape/shrink tube when ever possible, the reason i suggested it be done the other way in this situation is because it is the easiest and safeist to do when you first learn how to wire, it sure beats a cold solder joint.

Ryokosman
07-10-2005, 03:11 PM
Flat out I offered a safe (and yes it is safe) way for him to wire his item.

I'm no engineer - but I know enough that if the poor fellow follows your advise he's putting himself and his vehicle in danger.

Ryokosman = CETa

WRXRgr
07-10-2005, 03:28 PM
All that has come from it so far has been people comming out of the wood work to proclame that there way is better... and to tell some one with a lagit question that they are a noob... this is the exact reason I hate this forum.. spend less time pleasuring your self while you look for something to tare some one appart over and more time trying to help people and maby this place would be less of a joke.

:rolleyes:

If your feelings got hurt, sorry...I simply don't like seeing information dispensed that's going cause problems for a third party. I'd guess the same for Mulder (Edit: who's one of the guys that *I* learn from, in the electronics realm), who's got the additional mantle of Moderator status.

Be glad that Uncle Scotty didn't happen by! :lol:

WRXnEFFECT
07-12-2005, 12:57 AM
The 2005 SML radar detector test results are in!!

Radar Detection:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/5342/karesults6pq.jpg

Over the hill radar detection:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/6246/25hill8rt.jpg

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/8003/50hill2nm.jpg

Laser detection:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/3017/laser4hk.jpg

How well a Radar Detector Detector (RDD) can detect you:

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/7662/vg20jq.jpg

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/948/vg44qx.jpg

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/746/spectreiii7hr.jpg

z71amigo
07-12-2005, 01:34 PM
^^^ thats why i love my Valentine 1

offset
07-12-2005, 03:34 PM
The 2005 SML radar detector test results are in!!
Nevermind, thanks.

offset

offset
07-12-2005, 03:42 PM
Looks like the V1 certainly did better this year. Looks like Mike is back to working a little harder to stay ahead. Still looks like a virtual tie between the RX65 and X50 overall. And all three detectors work well enough to protect any intelligent person paying attention.

offset

offset
07-12-2005, 03:44 PM
Also after looking through the full review it appears that the Blinder M-20 is the laser jammer to get. And the Bel/Escort shifter did very well when retested on the midsize car (see the footnote on the page).

offset

ride5000
07-13-2005, 12:49 PM
i really hate to be the one who picks on spelling, but for god's sake cudaeh buy a dictionary and learn how to use it. you make my head hurt with this ****: thouse Usualy comming avrage witch pritty ment turmanal intirror negitive sanwiched fastner thats simpleist sorce dont doesent shrowded consirned detctors mearly discribe experence witch kinda hime wireing dosent doesnt amprage ect certen guaged dont dissagree Thats thats proclame lagit appart safeist
if you don't want to look up stuff in a dictionary, type your posts in word and cut and paste. :huh: