atcvader
08-13-2001, 11:27 AM
I just got my turbox bov, would that void my warrenty.
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View Full Version : does a bov void your warrenty atcvader 08-13-2001, 11:27 AM I just got my turbox bov, would that void my warrenty. Julian 08-13-2001, 11:33 AM If the dealer can prove that the increased boost allowed by the BOV was the cause of whatever failure you have, yes, it can. If they can't, or more likely you never have an engine failure, it doesn't matter. IMPREZIV 08-13-2001, 12:01 PM To make a small correction, a BOV does not increase boost. All it does is let the air escape to the atmosphere instead of being routed back through the system. While this is not optimal for the car, because it now can not accurately read the air, it still runs fine (or at least mine does.). If your car starts running like crap, which it will probably not, take off the BOV and return it to stock. As it is not that hard to do, you may want to think about returning the car to stock form whenever it goes in for dealer service and then swapping it back later. There is always the chance of a dealership being insane and refusing to work on your car because of the valve. ( It has happened, Weasel 555 had to return his car back to stock for them to check his CEL) Anyway, put your BOV in and go crazy!! Later, Pete Narcisse91 08-13-2001, 12:48 PM If you need a warranty repair, put the stock BOV back in. Some dealers will let it slip by, but most won't honor the powertrain warranty with an aftermarket BOV in. Considering it takes 15 minutes to swap them, it's probably not worth the risk to leave the aftermarket in, so hang on to your stock BOV. That's what I did, anyway, after asking people at my dealership (Van Bortel). Fmdeadrick 08-13-2001, 02:00 PM I just read an article from Austrailia on simple mods to the exhaust system causing turbo failure and immediate warranty issues. I will try to find a link. Subaru is instructing dealers there to look for tell tale signs of tampering. I imagine these issues will fly north to us in the near future. Beware. Mark www.kartboy.com Fmdeadrick 08-13-2001, 02:09 PM Here is the text (sorry about the formatting): WRX modifications could void warranty, says Subaru Sydney Morning Herald Aug-13-2001 author: Toby Hagon Subaru is calling for enthusiastic WRX owners to stop potentially dangerous vehicle modifications that could void warranties and damage engines. The Japanese importer, which sells the high-performance Impreza WRX, said three recent cases of turbo failure apparently brought about by relatively simple exhaust modifications had sparked the latest warning. According to Subaru national technical services manager Derek Ashby, the modified exhaust system gets too hot, causing ceramic pieces to break off and work their way into the turbo, ultimately causing failure. "These companies are selling a short dream," Ashby said. "We're suggesting people go back to their exhaust supplier and talk to them about the problems some of them are having." After the latest round of problems, Ashby is proposing a mail-out to Subaru clubs possibly followed by a direct mail-out to WRX owners warning of the dangers of modifications. "Basically we'll be recommending that you can't do any modifications," said Ashby. "We're looking to put together a layman's explanation of the dangers and send it to (WRX owners) clubs." Ashby said that while Subaru will give its customers the benefit of the doubt in certain situations, the company would only be warranting manufacturing faults, not damage caused due to aftermarket alterations. "We're getting quite expert at spotting (the false claims)," he said. He said that the problem was growing as more owners modified new vehicles in the hope of more power and greater individualisation. "We get frustrated with so-called experts thinking they know more than the factory engineers. In the end, the person that suffers most is the customer," Ashby said. One of the biggest modifiers of WRXs in Victoria is Air Power Systems, or APS. APS director Peter Luxon sympathises with Subaru Australia and the problems of modifications, although he doesn't totally agree. "There are obviously some operators who are modifying cars who don't really know or understand what they're doing," Luxon said. "The problem for the reputable companies like us - who sell a complete engineered package - is that we all get tarred with the same brush." Subaru WRXs have been a popular choice for modifications as owners look for cheap ways to boost performance relatively easily. The latest model, which is slightly slower than its predecessor, has also seen many owners trying to boost performance. But Ashby said many of the modifications can affect the longevity of other components as well as reliability. "No one really knows what effect the modifications will have," he said. "The more cars become controlled by computers, the more potential there is for something to go wrong." Ashby also queried how some of the aftermarket operators can claim compliance to the Australian Design Rules. But Subaru doesn't want to look like a party-pooper, and recognises the demand for personalisation. "We recognise people's desire to individualise their cars and hopefully down the track we can offer something," Ashby said. "But if we did it, it would have the full backing of (Subaru Japan)." Stallion 08-13-2001, 02:32 PM Ceramic pieces working their way into the turbo?? This would have to come from a pre-turbo exhaust mod like up-pipe or headers, not turbo back exhaust mods. Sounds like poor craftsmanship and research of a ceramic coated header or up pipe that would cause this. Hopefully this wont cause Subaru to believe ALL exhaust mods could cause this. That would just be plain ignorant. I would love to see ceramic pieces that flow upstream through exhaust gas exploding out of an engine.:lol: atcvader 08-13-2001, 02:53 PM Thanks guys, I guess i'll put the stock bov on before i get my oil change over at subaru... Just to be safe. Ed Chris02WRX 08-13-2001, 03:05 PM I would be real curious to hear the reason a dealership could come up with on how a BOV would void ANY kind of warranty. It gives no performance gains, it actually helps the turbo by preventing compressor surge. Chris Narcisse91 08-13-2001, 04:45 PM They probably won't even try, they'll just hand you a bill. Chirik 08-13-2001, 06:01 PM Actually, I think it was discussed in this very forum, someone DID make a modification to their BOV to vent to the atmosphere, and it caused him a fair bit of problems. Here is the thread: <a href="http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79123">Help me!! My car is near death</a> - I don't know the specifics of how a BOV works, to know if the problems he is having are due to it or not, but it sounds like it from the comments there. Jon [in CT] 08-13-2001, 06:14 PM Yeah, it was myko011 and here's some of the codes he's reported: http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79359 |