I am thinking about starting up a rally project and I was wondering what the responsibility of the co-driver is? I am not made of money and have no delusions of making any at this. Its purely for fun. So with that said, Its obvious that the co-driver would pay for his own suit and hat but where is the line typically drawn? Is he usually responsible for his seat? Harness? Communication equipment? Dose the computer come with him or the car? The list goes on about the items in gray area but hopefully you get the idea.

-Dustin

You have to look at it as what you have to offer the codriver. In the beginning its not going to be much, and unless you have a friend or know who's going to codrive you'll end up bouncing around a bit.

Save some money and start with a used car, there's a lot for sale right now.

*cough* http://www.rallyclassified.com/detail.php?cat=18&de=2228 *cough*

Jay
#583 G5

If you're looking to team up with a friend, you can decide whatever makes sense for the two of you.

But if you're looking to post an advert on Specialstage seeking a co-driver, you can expect that they'll show up with a suit and helmet. Pretty much everything else is the responsibility of the driver/car owner. Certainly, any part that bolts to the car (seat, rally computer, harnesses) is the responsibility of the car owner.

If you're lucky, he won't ask to be paid. :)

- Christian

I actually have a car in the works right now. I should hear by the end of the day.

I also have a friend in mind for the second seat. Like I said this is just a good fun type thing so pay is out of the question. I was just wodering how much of a "free ride" codrivers usually get.

-Dustin

If the car crashes, it is the co-driver's responsibility. :-)

I was just wodering how much of a "free ride" codrivers usually get.

It's usually just that. Free. (At least if you want a good one.) :lol:

- Christian

Well thanks everyone. I guess that answers my question. Not what i really wanted to hear but yall answered it none the less:)

-Dustin

depends. Christian is in a position where his rides are (and should) be free as he is riding with top drivers and his skill level merits it. Other teams running for fun are usually running on a budget, and some will ask a co-driver to chip in for entry fees or notes, etc. If your travelling a distance at your expense to get to the rally the less, if any, you should have to pay. I've had some 50/50 $ situations, some i've paid for notes, and plenty of free rides, it all depends. That being said, i'm looking for a ride at Colorado Cog, anyone need a navvie?

jtree --

http://davekean.com/codrive/humor.html

:D

ballast

It really depends on how you've put your team together. As you already know Trunkmonkey Racing is a bunch of very close friends who all wanted to get into rally in one way or another. Andrew and I just finished Maine Forest Rally and our agreement was a 50/50 split of entry fees, room costs, and nickel and dime consumables like when he makes Radio Shack runs for miscellaneous tidbits. He also pays for fuel for his service vehicle which Sabrina drives while I pay for fuel for my service vehicle which a random team member drives.

Beyond that everything else is up to me as the driver unless Andrew (or other people on the team) feel generous and show up with shiny bits for the rally car (like the taillights you gave me long ago). Your mileage may vary but what I've found from talking to other drivers is that if the co-driver is a close friend then they tend to chip in. If the co-driver is simply a random person then they get a free ride.

If you're planning on building a car, please PM or e-mail me for some pointers. You know how long it took me to get the Trunkmonkey Pink Impreza done...I'll gladly give you a list of vendors I both highly recommend and have had problems with.

BTW, I forgot, I did reply to you with the list of local cage fabricators, yes?

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http://davekean.com/codrive/humor.html..."


Yep, I am guilty of that :D it's more fun that way.

IT really depends if you are good enough then many co-drivers will pay to ride with you like what Duncan Mcmath and anna goni do. IF you have this luxury then I am a bit jealous. Usually as a rule most teams split entry and hotel occaionally a co-driver will pay for fuel or tires or something else but everything else is split 50/50 except the car. I really cannot stress this enough because I have seen a few friendships end because of splitting a car so I would tell you to build the car yourself and find an experienced co driver to ride with it will greatly improve you.

At an event the my co-driver is responsible for the folowing:
Registration
Organizing notes and service
getting me to the stages on time and knowing everything else
at service it is his job to tell the crew what needs to be changed
keep me on teh road
sit in the hatch to balance the car if we lose a corner
change flats
basically everything except for driving the codrivers do so much work and get few acolades but he is the guy that keeps running.
my responsibility is to get him to the event
hotel
food
many alcoholic beverages after the event
it is always his fault if anything goes wrong no matter what