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Subaru Applies to the FIA for Group N Homologation

Fuji Heavy Industries Ltd. (FHI), a global manufacturer of transportation and aerospace-related products and the maker of Subaru automobiles, today announced that it would submit a homologation application to the Fédération Internationale de l’Automobile (FIA) for the finely tuned new Subaru Impreza WRX STI spec C to rally as a Group N vehicle in 2006*.

To enter FIA-approved racing and rallying championships that take place around the world, cars must be homologated according to the FIA regulations. Group N (production cars) is one of the rally and off-road vehicle groups set forth by the FIA. Defined as large-scale series production touring cars, Group N homologation imposes strict limits on modifications to production models and is known as the category that best reflects the performance inherent to the basic production model.

WRX STI spec C is very suitable for racing due to its lightened body and high performance engine. Therefore, the application embodies the company’s plan to position this model as a key competitor in motorsport activities for 2005 and beyond. Last year, Subaru Impreza WRX STI spec C ”WR-Limited 2004” was applied for the FIA homologation.

FHI will produce more than 1,000 units of the Impreza WRX STI spec C during 2005, which is the minimum level of production required for Group N classification, and the company is planning to have the vehicle homologated before the 2006 rally season begins.

Major Features of the finely tuned new Impreza WRX STI spec C

Compared to the Impreza WRX STI, Impreza WRX STI spec C is about 70 kilograms lighter through the adaptation of lighter glass, a trunk lid composed of aluminum, and thinner roof construction.
Reinforcing braces have been added to the front strut tower on the WRX STI spec C. In addition, the solid bars used to connect the front pillar and upper frame have been replaced by enhanced hollow bars and rigidity of chassis have been improved
A rear crossbar has been fitted to further improve body rigidity.
The turbocharger in the Impreza WRX STI spec C uses precise ball bearings in the shaft to reduce friction, thereby offering a smooth and speedy turbo boost and providing ideal engine response.
A large water reservoir for the intercooler water spray as well as an air-cooled engine oil cooler have been implemented to ensure stable engine performance.

* Applicable 17inch tire specification only


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One of the most beautiful cars I have ever seen!!! :eek:

If anyone needs me I'll be sobbing in the corner. :(

-Mike.

If anyone needs me I'll be sobbing in the corner. :(

-Mike.
LOL.

I will be in the other corner. :(

I'm glad we won't get it here, because I'll save my $35k.

this means we can get the black center console.

Those pics make the new front end look good.

All this time I thought it didn't have A/C because it was the lightweight version and had the roof vent. But there's the auto A/C buttons right there.

70kg less weight and kept the A/C? Nice work! Now I want one, too.

wow me likey alot!

the black center console is cool

spring design is intersting

I don't see anything special that hasn't already been seen. S203 is still to me the better car both in looks and performance.

s203 .. i want that over this but.. eh.. the new look is growing on me

holy crap i love that keep attacking the nurburgring decal.

holy crap i love that keep attacking the nurburgring decal.


+1

I like the all black seats too. I want it, or the s203(4?)

I think the title should read 2006 :)

I'll take two.

It REALLY needs the stock STi skirts, but other than that, it's nice...not S203 nice, but nicer than I expected.

Apparently the idea behind the spec-C is lost on some of you comparing it to the S203

Quick chop with some Ferrari BBS wheels, when will Subaru learn that they make the car look a LOT nicer?

http://mostarquests.com/albums/userpics/10012/normal_06RABBS.jpg

id take that over the oldS203 anyday ;)

Wicked. Plain and simple.

~~Quentin

All this time I thought it didn't have A/C because it was the lightweight version and had the roof vent. But there's the auto A/C buttons right there.

70kg less weight and kept the A/C? Nice work! Now I want one, too.

yep, even the older spec-c's had A/C. Little known fact. They actually have a special lightweight compressor! :banana:

Id like to get my hands on that sweet pink RSB!!

Its really growing on me. Like an evil little fungus that wants my bank account.

I think the title should read 2006 :)

Nah, the facelifted model came out in Japan first as a '05 model. It's always been like this, the rest of the world got the '01 bugeye almost a full year before we got it as an '02. The more pictures I see, the more I want to sell my WRX for an '06 STi!!!

I'd buy a spec C tomorrow...if i still lived in England I'd have ordered one by now :(

Still ugly as sin, but that doesn't matter if it delivers the goods.

From STI's website, http://www.poweraxel.com/sti/news/news2005/sti050ex10.html, here is the special equipment list for the RA:

Improved Performance Equipment:
Exclusive stainless sports muffler (110mm)
Chassis and Mechanism:
Exclusive damping force 4-step adjustable struts
Exclusive reinforced 'low-down' coil spring
Front and rear aluminum lateral links with pillowball bushing
Trailing links with pillowball bushing
Exclusive 21mm rear stabilizer
Rear stabilizer brackets with ball joint
Aluminum wheels 17x8.0JJ (silver coating)
Tires - Potenza RE070 235/45R17
Field of Vision:
Electric memory-capable colored door mirrors with remote control
Exterior:
Exclusive front underskirt
Exclusive side decal (Nurburgring course illustration)
Exclusive rear ornament
Seats, Interior, Operativity, Instrument Panel, Safety Equipment:
Exclusive "Black Soft Feel" coating (center panel, meter visor, side vent grill)
Original Alacantra vehicle inspection proof holder
WR-CAR miniature engine

This is EXACTLY why I am beginning to dislike Subaru lately - particularly SOA: we don't get shizz.

More specifically, I am annoyed with the lack of choice offered to the consumer here. I am also appalled at the lack of awareness by SOA of the preferences/needs of their US market.

In a nutshell, buyers here would snap up spec c's much faster than their production runs could handle.

Do they not see what the HELL people are talking about all day on the various Subaru forums?

Do they not realize that a substantial amt of people who buy wrx/sti end up modding the hell out of them (shouldn't that alone indicate a market for higher performance?)

Subaru should be able to see the obvious, but obviously don't. And that bothers me.

Please no flamage. You do not necessarily have to have the same product preference as me. And thats the whole point of my post - to state that such products should be available as a CHOICE.


Also, correct me if Im wrong, but Group N cars would also include the various G-N bushings that are only available to us as "aftermarket" upgrades? Those who've installed them know how much they tighten up handling, and also realize the absurd amount of cost and time and labor they require as well. I would much rather have bought an STi spec c type ra than spend as much time and money as I have on my STi to get near what it has stock.

Im rambling, but you see the point. Subaru, offer up some of the good stuff.

I agree with the statements above to some extent. I think SOA has done a great job with bringng high performance Subaru's into the market place but SOJ are the ones holding others back (IMO at least).

On the SOA end, the main problem can be summed up in 2 words: FOCUS GROUPS. Although we here on NASIOC compose a growing Subaru popluation, we are very small percentage of Subaru owners and as such do not get heard very often unless it's through an online forum or via e-mail.

Lastly, most of the world sees the US as a bunch of sue-happy overweight people who have no "need" for such intense perfomance cars. I sincerely hope this changes in the near future since I know for a fact that the cars would sell and would sell quickly at that.

-Mike.

P.S. In reading an article last night on the upcoming new Audi RS-4, we in the US do not get the supportive front seats once again. Why am I not surprised?

After many beers at a neighbors house ( who also has 3 Subarus in the driveway) we started a HUGE LOUD , semi-drunken topic about the issue of why cant these cars be available to the buyer in the USA who wil pay for the shipping and import taxes etc. My wife works for Subaru and some of it is SOA and alot is SOJ.

I would pay for a Spec-c type RA. Thats an incredible car out the box. I drove the bug eyes version in early 2003 and WOW. Reminds me of the BMW M3 liteweight from the E36 family. Nibble, and just really benefits from being lighter in weight.

Myles

This is EXACTLY why I am beginning to dislike Subaru lately - particularly SOA: we don't get shizz.

More specifically, I am annoyed with the lack of choice offered to the consumer here. I am also appalled at the lack of awareness by SOA of the preferences/needs of their US market.

In a nutshell, buyers here would snap up spec c's much faster than their production runs could handle.

Do they not see what the HELL people are talking about all day on the various Subaru forums?

Do they not realize that a substantial amt of people who buy wrx/sti end up modding the hell out of them (shouldn't that alone indicate a market for higher performance?)

Subaru should be able to see the obvious, but obviously don't. And that bothers me.

Please no flamage. You do not necessarily have to have the same product preference as me. And thats the whole point of my post - to state that such products should be available as a CHOICE.


Also, correct me if Im wrong, but Group N cars would also include the various G-N bushings that are only available to us as "aftermarket" upgrades? Those who've installed them know how much they tighten up handling, and also realize the absurd amount of cost and time and labor they require as well. I would much rather have bought an STi spec c type ra than spend as much time and money as I have on my STi to get near what it has stock.

Im rambling, but you see the point. Subaru, offer up some of the good stuff.

I think there are some who would and some who would talk shiz liek all the people who said,.." oh yeah, I am getting an STI,.." then realized they could'nt realy afford it.

BUT, on the other hand..we get ALOT of customers who buy a 2005 STI, then drop 12-15k on making it the way they want it. So yes people would buy Spec-c's at least to the point of being able to make JAPAN wake up and realize we Americans have the same taste in HP JDM cars.

Myles

I already ordered these wheels in 18x8 for the 2004 STI Grey. ...for my total SPEC-C type RA conversion. Roof vent and alloy rear trunk coming also.

16.5 lbs and made by Ray's

Myles

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/spec_c_RA2005/catalog/utility/08/imgs/top.jpg

I already ordered these wheels in 18x8 for the 2004 STI Grey. ...for my total SPEC-C type RA conversion. Roof vent and alloy rear trunk coming also.

16.5 lbs and made by Ray's

Myles

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/spec_c_RA2005/catalog/utility/08/imgs/top.jpg

Myles,

Once you're done with the conversion, let me know what you want for it. ;)

-Mike.

Edited for spelling...

So much for Glen and Jon (in CT) saying that we get a Spec C here anyway or close to it ... depends what you consider close ... :rolleyes:

those wheels are so sexy

SOA is willing to give us 500 units of the Legacy Spec B, why can't they give us 500 (well probably 1000 to meet demand) Spec C Type RAs?

WOW, now that's HOT! :disco: I'm going to stick to those that have said thte new faces look much better in person. I'm going to get service done tomorrow at Irvine Subaru, where they have the new models in. :banana:

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/spec_c_RA2005/catalog/utility/06/imgs/top.jpg

You'd never see anything like this on an American Subaru. :(

You'd never see anything like this on an American Subaru. Probably because it's so hard to type the word "Nürburgring" with US keyboards.

those wheels are sweet, where did you get them and how much?

http://www.japanparts.com/Pic/pic170/100-012.jpg

Japanparts.com has them. Link: http://www.japanparts.com/shop/shop.cgi?mode=itemlist&maker=Subaru&type_car=Impreza+WRX+2006&type_second=Interior+and+Exterior&type_third=Wheels

They're only $1500 for a set of 4, which isn't bad at all for 18"x8". Just be sure to specify a 100x5 bolt pattern.

-Matt

That isnt bad what a great price, maybe next spring

http://www.japanparts.com/Pic/pic170/100-012.jpg

Japanparts.com has them. Link: http://www.japanparts.com/shop/shop.cgi?mode=itemlist&maker=Subaru&type_car=Impreza+WRX+2006&type_second=Interior+and+Exterior&type_third=Wheels

They're only $1500 for a set of 4, which isn't bad at all for 18"x8". Just be sure to specify a 100x5 bolt pattern.

-Matt

Add shipping and insurance....................

mw

So much for Glen and Jon (in CT) saying that we get a Spec C here anyway or close to it ... depends what you consider close ... :rolleyes:

That was the prior model we were discussing.... it will be interesting to scope out the differences on the new car.

Add shipping and insurance....................

mw
STILL not a bad price.

Anyone who looks at those pics and still says the new car is ugly should be taken out and shot. It is BY FAR the best looking incarnation of the GD chassis.

Hey Myles, how far are you going with that conversion? Will it mainly be cosmetic, or are you gunna try to get some of the very specific spec-c odds & ends?

It makes me wonder is SOJ will ever allow SOA to have limited edition cars like the spec-c RA and s20X cars no matter how great demand comes. Almost like it is a pride issue, only the people of Japan get the REALLY good Subaru`s.

I always felt that regular USDM STi`s should be more like JDM STi`s in that the forged BBS wheels, Re070s, DCCD, etc...should all be optional. Then offer the higher performance lightweight spec-c with the BBS wheels, RE070s, DCCD, etc..as standard equipment. So for the people who want their STi to be more of a street car, they can get the regular STi. Then for the people who want a more track ready, hard-edged STi, then they can get the spec-c.

Obviously NASIOC and other forums dont represent a majority of ALL subaru owners, but I do think we represent a good portion of true motorhead suby owners who would love to have a stripped, track ready STi. Sure mom&pop dont go to the forums to talk about their forester, but they arent the people who would be buying these limited edition cars.

ps- the old one still looks way better. This new Alfa Romeo wannabe is puke IMO.

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/spec_c_RA/02/imgs/top.jpg

wow, its beautiful :drool:

BUT, on the other hand..we get ALOT of customers who buy a 2005 STI, then drop 12-15k on making it the way they want it. So yes people would buy Spec-c's at least to the point of being able to make JAPAN wake up and realize we Americans have the same taste in HP JDM cars.

Myles



You KNOW what I'm talking about.


Personally, Im one of those who've spent a lot on my STi - ironically upgrading to "STi" parts. Most of this would already be available on the Group N model, but at a fraction of the cost of doing it yourself.


I guess I'm just hopeful that maybe SOME of this noise will be heard by Subaru and they'll do something about it.

Hey Myles, how far are you going with that conversion? Will it mainly be cosmetic, or are you gunna try to get some of the very specific spec-c odds & ends?

It makes me wonder is SOJ will ever allow SOA to have limited edition cars like the spec-c RA and s20X cars no matter how great demand comes. Almost like it is a pride issue, only the people of Japan get the REALLY good Subaru`s.

I always felt that regular USDM STi`s should be more like JDM STi`s in that the forged BBS wheels, Re070s, DCCD, etc...should all be optional. Then offer the higher performance lightweight spec-c with the BBS wheels, RE070s, DCCD, etc..as standard equipment. So for the people who want their STi to be more of a street car, they can get the regular STi. Then for the people who want a more track ready, hard-edged STi, then they can get the spec-c.

Obviously NASIOC and other forums dont represent a majority of ALL subaru owners, but I do think we represent a good portion of true motorhead suby owners who would love to have a stripped, track ready STi. Sure mom&pop dont go to the forums to talk about their forester, but they arent the people who would be buying these limited edition cars.

ps- the old one still looks way better. This new Alfa Romeo wannabe is puke IMO.

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/spec_c_RA/02/imgs/top.jpg

HOW FAR?

These wheels above but in 18x8..
SPec-C alloy trunk
removce side skirts and fill holes.
All suspension , except use my new Moton 3 ways with remote res.
NURB sticker and typeRA sticker.
ALL black interior, with Recaro POLE position with black Alcantara perforated center sections.
Racecomp Suede steering wheel using 05 wheel.
v-limited carbon( someone owes me a favor S203 is the favor cashed in ;) )
Roof vent with serious attention to detail.
Remove AC.
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I already have the CF real STi rear wing. and my car is white. :)
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So when I sell it in the spring of 06 to get a 997 cup car, it will be special. I wont be parting it out, instead selling it as a pro-retro spec-c with alot of documentation. IF IAN LITCHFIELD ever finishes the twinscroll package for 2.5, I could upgrade to that, and it would be very special.

I have started really liking the factory " fast " cars and disliking the heavily modified cars in the US. I had a student I was instructing who's car was soooo modded, it lost its appeal. Was it fast , yes, did it have a narrow power band, with peak boost at 5500..yes. Did it have a bigggg turbo and made bigggg power,..yes. But it was'nt useable, it sounded good and people said ..." oooooooooooh yeahhhhh"...but with a 6 speed , you were always shifting. Now take a mildly modded STi with ecu, tbe and small turbo upgrade, and top mount upgrade, and it pulls out of corners and is predictable and actually has usable power. I got off the point, but this " modded" car had 14/16 springs and HUGE truck sway bars and it was a dauwggg...........

I think I am getting older and like the idea of a factory built massaged, happy ending kinda car like the s203, 22b, and these spec-c type RA's.

The SEMA style, excess turns me off, and thats just my opinion, but I like something kinda simple and sleeperish, if there is such a beast with cf wings and roof vents and remote res,...lol. I guess hide it and go fast , versus, SHOW it and go a little faster and tell the world because you you have a 4.5 inch exhaust and a 60mm wastegate, and run 35 psi and make 645 whp........

Ok, I am done sounding like an old guy... :lol:

give me a 22b and some R compounds, call it a day. :D

Myles

Myles,
I totally agree with you. I love the stealth look myselfs. I also goto the point, that I am wingless (granted I "only" have a WRX). The wings look great and in Japan they are everywhere, but here, they attract too much attention for me. My preference is usable power an subtle mods that aren't "bling". As for factory speed over home grown, I like it both ways, but home grown resonable mods are my personal preference due to the lower cost.

Ben

If anyone needs me I'll be sobbing in the corner. :(

-Mike.
+1 :(

This is EXACTLY why I am beginning to dislike Subaru lately - particularly SOA: we don't get shizz.

More specifically, I am annoyed with the lack of choice offered to the consumer here. I am also appalled at the lack of awareness by SOA of the preferences/needs of their US market.

In a nutshell, buyers here would snap up spec c's much faster than their production runs could handle.

Do they not see what the HELL people are talking about all day on the various Subaru forums?

Do they not realize that a substantial amt of people who buy wrx/sti end up modding the hell out of them (shouldn't that alone indicate a market for higher performance?)

Subaru should be able to see the obvious, but obviously don't. And that bothers me.

Please no flamage. You do not necessarily have to have the same product preference as me. And thats the whole point of my post - to state that such products should be available as a CHOICE.


Also, correct me if Im wrong, but Group N cars would also include the various G-N bushings that are only available to us as "aftermarket" upgrades? Those who've installed them know how much they tighten up handling, and also realize the absurd amount of cost and time and labor they require as well. I would much rather have bought an STi spec c type ra than spend as much time and money as I have on my STi to get near what it has stock.

Im rambling, but you see the point. Subaru, offer up some of the good stuff. I see the problems being, (A) i doubt the Spec C has the saftey and emissions gear to get into the US. (B) The spec C is rather limited production anyways. (C) Lack of acctual buyers. (D) Some motor writers slamming it because its to "harsh" and focused (pussys). (E) Focus groups as mentioned. And possible lack of profit from importing them (as compaired to selling another 5000 basic impreza's. In New Zealand we get all the JDM versions because our govenment is lax and we currently have no real emissions standards. I find it funny how SOA say they could come up with 1000? Spec B legacys, when in NZ Subaru dont even sell a GT version legacy there all Spec B's and yet they only sell somthing like 20 a month over the whole country!

damnit... I love the bugeyes... but that looks really really nice... BUT WE DON'T GET IT!!??? WHY CRUEL WORLD??! :jump off bridge and into 3rd corner face first :eek: :

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/spec_c_RA2005/catalog/utility/06/imgs/top.jpg

that would make a COOL t-shirt

give me a 22b and some R compounds, call it a day. :D

Myles


Myles summed it up perfectly right there.

I see the problems being, (A) i doubt the Spec C has the saftey and emissions gear to get into the US. (B) The spec C is rather limited production anyways. (C) Lack of acctual buyers. (D) Some motor writers slamming it because its to "harsh" and focused (pussys). (E) Focus groups as mentioned. And possible lack of profit from importing them (as compaired to selling another 5000 basic impreza's. In New Zealand we get all the JDM versions because our govenment is lax and we currently have no real emissions standards. I find it funny how SOA say they could come up with 1000? Spec B legacys, when in NZ Subaru dont even sell a GT version legacy there all Spec B's and yet they only sell somthing like 20 a month over the whole country!


Yes BUT:

1) It is ALREADY limited production anyway - just not available to our market.

2) Any domestic market changes can be done, just as they are done with many other vehicles (there are ALWAYS regional variations somewhere).


And most simply, look at it this way......there is already a market for STi in the US. I think it is very safe to say (and a VERY conservative estimate) that of those performance inclined drivers, at LEAST 10% of them would purchase a SPEC C if possible.

I would. And all I want to do is change tires.

a spec-c doesnt really make that many compromises....it still has A/C, power windows (front), ETC. The only creature comfort it doesnt have is sound proofing and a radio. But it has already been proven in the US that the STi can sell perfectly with no radio. And I dont think many people who buy an STi (spec-c or not) are concerned about road noise... :rolleyes:

New wallpaper up on SOJ website-

http://www.subaru.co.jp/square/gallery/kabegami/impreza/imgs/26_1.jpg

High-res Impreza wallpaper (http://www.subaru.co.jp/square/gallery/kabegami/impreza/index.html)

a spec-c doesnt really make that many compromises....it still has A/C, power windows (front), ETC. The only creature comfort it doesnt have is sound proofing and a radio. But it has already been proven in the US that the STi can sell perfectly with no radio. And I dont think many people who buy an STi (spec-c or not) are concerned about road noise... :rolleyes:

If I'm not mistaken, the 2006 Spec Cs have power windows all around now.

so comfy looking interior

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/spec_c_RA2005/catalog/utility/06/imgs/top.jpg

You'd never see anything like this on an American Subaru. :(

There was a Jeep Wrangler at my old workplace that had this sticker (minus the Spec C Type RA part). It drew a :confused: from me.

fo' shizzle

Bump.


Bring it, Subaru!

There was a Jeep Wrangler at my old workplace that had this sticker (minus the Spec C Type RA part). It drew a :confused: from me.

Yes, but with the growing generation of PS2 players and thanks to games like GT4 - more and more people WOULD know what that is.

-Nawambo

It's sad that it takes a video game to make people aware of such a historic track. Anyway.. foxy.. you sure it wasn't a Rubicon Trail sticker or something :confused: :lol: :confused:

What's funny is that before I saw this thread, I still didn't like the MY06s. That Type-RA made it all better :D

Anyone have a high-res picture of the 'Keep attacking the Nurburgring' decal? I want to get a few shirts done ;)

oooo id buy one of those for sure.....subaru emblem on the front and that on the back, sweet.

Drool ! I want one now !

Anyone ever think that the lack of a Spec C has to do with the slow selling market for the ESX STis? (or at least that was used as a 'sample' to see what buyers would get)

I *would* pay close to 40K for a Spec C, but I want it to have more 'oomph' than the ESX STi. For the price, that car was a straight line wonder, not a 'special' car like the Spec C.

*sigh* Try explaining to SOJ that we need a homologated Spec C when we already have a 2.5L that is non-FIA. Hopefully, if the new regulations come in with transversely mounted engines and what not, Subaru will just 'open up' it's Spec C offerings to the rest of us.

- dow

Anyone ever think that the lack of a Spec C has to do with the slow selling market for the ESX STis? (or at least that was used as a 'sample' to see what buyers would get)

I *would* pay close to 40K for a Spec C, but I want it to have more 'oomph' than the ESX STi. For the price, that car was a straight line wonder, not a 'special' car like the Spec C.

*sigh* Try explaining to SOJ that we need a homologated Spec C when we already have a 2.5L that is non-FIA. Hopefully, if the new regulations come in with transversely mounted engines and what not, Subaru will just 'open up' it's Spec C offerings to the rest of us.

- dow

The ESX never really appealed to me... I thought of it as a Mustang STi. Why? Well it just reminded me of the Roush Mustangs which were flashy and fast but just not classy. Sorry for the reference but it's just my view.

The spec-C would be steep if it ever made it here and sales would be slow BUT 500-1,000 would have no problem selling out.. I guarantee that.

-Mike.

very true. Plus, I hate to say it, but, "who is Ali Afshar and why is his signature on that car?" was the first thing I thought when I saw it. I mean gimme a break, there's no way that ESX is bigger here in the states than WRC. I have Petter Solberg's signature on my car and Im sure it generates alot more interest than if I'd had Ali Afshar sign it. Beyond that, they took a well rounded car, gave it an insane paint job, that only a hardcore ESX fan would want to drive. Then they gave the street version the same bolt ons that most STi drivers have anyway, but for 10x the price.

What Im getting at, is if they gave Subaru enthusiasts a real higher performance STi edition, such as the Spec C, they'd see hugely different results than they got with the ESX car.

There was a Jeep Wrangler at my old workplace that had this sticker (minus the Spec C Type RA part). It drew a :confused: from me.

You can buy Nurburgring stickers at the Nurburgring. I had a silver one on my neon when I lived in Germany.

Sadly, it dissappeared between Germany and the US. I need to have a friend order me some new ones.

I'm wet.

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0902/article73967_1.images/93466.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0902/article73967_1.images/93467.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0902/article73967_1.images/93468.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0902/article73967_1.images/93469.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0902/article73967_1.images/93470.jpg

http://response.jp/issue/2005/0902/article73967_1.images/93471.jpg

People didnt care about the ESX STi because nobody who drops 50k would:

1) Be interested in an rice rocket Subaru WRX
2) If they did want to drop 50k on a Subaru, it sure as hell would be custom, have way more than 350awhp, and not look like shiat.

I'm trying, but still can't love her... Although shes the amazing chick that you might wanna share your driveway and spend the rest of your life with, that facelift did not go well... =(

As good as you can engineer a car, design is what people connect to first

http://www.robotink.com/test/nosnout3.jpg
http://response.jp/issue/2005/0902/article73967_1.images/93467.jpg

If anyone needs me I'll be sobbing in the corner. :(

-Mike.
I'll take the other corner

This is what we get for dropping "two" bombs.

I've read that Ian Litchfield over in the UK is working on the 2006 version of the Type-25 Impreza... Can't wait to see that!! :)

http://www.robotink.com/test/nosnout3.jpg
http://response.jp/issue/2005/0902/article73967_1.images/93467.jpg


Top one looks like an ugly RSX... The bottom one is inifnitely better.

http://www.japanparts.com/Pic/pic170/100-012.jpg

Japanparts.com has them. Link: http://www.japanparts.com/shop/shop.cgi?mode=itemlist&maker=Subaru&type_car=Impreza+WRX+2006&type_second=Interior+and+Exterior&type_third=Wheels

They're only $1500 for a set of 4, which isn't bad at all for 18"x8". Just be sure to specify a 100x5 bolt pattern.

-Matt

ok,ok,ok,ok wait!
How are these wheels 18x8 w/ RE070's on them?

Another question is how can you get these in 5x100?made by Rays but these are 5x114 only right?

Myles...how did you order these and I'm guessing you have a 05-06 Steel grey???

I need the info!

Anyone know weight of the wheels?

http://www.robotink.com/test/nosnout3.jpg


If you put the hood bulge back in, it'd look like the last Cougar, sorta.

I like that the oversized snout's gone, and I think the new grille makes the whole front draw down visually, which makes it seem more "crouched" than before, which is good. Looks more athletic than the real 06.


Still seems to need work though...
Maybe flatten out the grille opening so it's less "V" shaped and maybe it'd look less like a Toyota grille and more like the Legacy.

Or, (since it's a bottom-feeder mostly anyway) completely fill in the above-bumper grille. Probably end up looking even more like an RSX, but hey, at least the RSX is a good looking car.

EDIT: I tried it in Paint (so no, I'm not posting it) it looks OK-ish...hard to tell since I butchered the job so badly...but the potential is there.)

EDIT #2: Hell, the chop looks fine as is, leave it, and let us dream of how it could have been, but isn't...oh well, Ugliness is Subaru's hallmark.

I like that the oversized snout's gone...


Seriously...go see the car in person...the grill is pretty small. I tried really hard to focus on the grill to see how much i liked it or not...unlike the Tribeca it doesn't draw your eye...I kept seeing the lip, headlights and scoop more than i could focus on the grill.

This is what we get for dropping "two" bombs.
Props to your wit!

If you put the hood bulge back in, it'd look like the last Cougar, sorta.

I like that the oversized snout's gone, and I think the new grille makes the whole front draw down visually, which makes it seem more "crouched" than before, which is good. Looks more athletic than the real 06.


Still seems to need work though...
Maybe flatten out the grille opening so it's less "V" shaped and maybe it'd look less like a Toyota grille and more like the Legacy.

Or, (since it's a bottom-feeder mostly anyway) completely fill in the above-bumper grille. Probably end up looking even more like an RSX, but hey, at least the RSX is a good looking car.

EDIT: I tried it in Paint (so no, I'm not posting it) it looks OK-ish...hard to tell since I butchered the job so badly...but the potential is there.)

EDIT #2: Hell, the chop looks fine as is, leave it, and let us dream of how it could have been, but isn't...oh well, Ugliness is Subaru's hallmark.

:lol: You guys are wasting your time photoshopping.... :lol: Don't worry, in 2 years you will be able to rag and bitch about another design. I look forward to that time as well.

:lol: You guys are wasting your time photoshopping.... :lol: Don't worry, in 2 years you will be able to rag and bitch about another design. I look forward to that time as well.
:lol: he's right

i want ALL the suspension upgrades from the Type RA for my 06 STI! not a big fan of the rims, i like the bbs stockers.

i dont recall this much outrage or distatse towards the bugeye or 04\05......

Seriously...go see the car in person...the grill is pretty small. I tried really hard to focus on the grill to see how much i liked it or not...unlike the Tribeca it doesn't draw your eye...I kept seeing the lip, headlights and scoop more than i could focus on the grill.

Still waiting on the locals to get an STI...then I'll go have a look. The B9 was *worse* in person...so I fear the Impreza... :p

i dont recall this much outrage or distatse towards the bugeye or 04\05......

Are you kidding me?!?!??!?!! The bugeye was met with detest from the GC8 following! I am sure that you are wrong. Also, the 04/05 was blah, didn't necessarily appeal to people but didn't turn them off. More of a "meh".

[QUOTE=NYCshopper]http://response.jp/issue/2005/0902/article73967_1.images/93466.jpg
Not quite as good as this:
http://www.tuningpt.com/galeria/subaru/1998_subaru_impreza_22b_sti-2.jpg

But still looks nice.

Actually, there are some striking similarities there. Nice post!!

Still waiting on the locals to get an STI...then I'll go have a look. The B9 was *worse* in person...so I fear the Impreza... :p

1. B9 does look worse in person.
2. 06 STi actually looks better in person.
3. I just wanted to have a number 3, so ha :banana:

Agreed, when I saw the B9 I puked a little in my mouth. Then when I saw the interior I swallowed it and grinned (disgusting thought) :lol:

The impreza made me smile ear to ear when i saw it. I really like this face lift.

When I saw the new one, I couldn't stop smiling.

When I compare the old spec C vs the new, the new looks so much better.

And that chop makes it look so bland. 06 all the way.

That's right.. GC8 owner loves it :lol: I can't freakin' wait. WOOT!

ok,ok,ok,ok wait!
How are these wheels 18x8 w/ RE070's on them?

Another question is how can you get these in 5x100?made by Rays but these are 5x114 only right?

Myles...how did you order these and I'm guessing you have a 05-06 Steel grey???

I need the info!

The picture of these in the earlier shots is of the 17 inch version. These came available in early May in 18x8 in both the 5x100 and the 5x114.3...also in both gold or this silvery silver.

No I have a 2004 sti and how did I order them,...we import JDM parts......LOL
how did you think I ordered them?.lol. I ordered them from JAPAN. ;)

Myles

.....

i dont recall this much outrage or distatse towards the bugeye or 04\05......
You must have been either catanoic or not a member here.

Whoops, I see which it is. Join Date: 05-18-2004

The picture of these in the earlier shots is of the 17 inch version. These came available in early May in 18x8 in both the 5x100 and the 5x114.3...also in both gold or this silvery silver.

No I have a 2004 sti and how did I order them,...we import JDM parts......LOL
how did you think I ordered them?.lol. I ordered them from JAPAN. ;)

Myles

After reading the link more I saw @ the bottom that they are in the 5x100 pattern.

Wonder what Tires they are using on them now in the 18's?Looks like bridgestone ?

BTW: knew you were a JDM parts distibutor ;) ...Last night I was freakin to see that they offer them NOW.

After reading the link more I saw @ the bottom that they are in the 5x100 pattern.

Wonder what Tires they are using on them now in the 18's?Looks like bridgestone ?

BTW: knew you were a JDM parts distibutor ;) ...Last night I was freakin to see that they offer them NOW.

I knew you knew , thats why I put the smiley face in...just wanted to give ya a hard time....

yeah they are available and the color in person is SCHWEEEEEEEEEET !!! ;)

mw

Ok, time to go to bed..Good night...... ;)

mw

']You must have been either catanoic or not a member here.

Whoops, I see which it is. Join Date: 05-18-2004

yup... this board was almost unreadable for a while after the release. so much hate for the 02, now there is much love. :banana:

I love the bugeyes t3h most :)

Are these EVER going to be available here?? I mean come on!! :furious:

Are these EVER going to be available here?? I mean come on!! :furious:



Bumped.

I have no idea, but the best we can do in the meantime is let Subaru know that we're interested.



Im interested, Subaru.

<sarcasm> Although we might want to ask them to remove the crappy twinscroll turbo and downgrade to softer bushings and springs. And throw in some wideass seats with less bolstering. <sarcasm>

Here's a little review from Mr. Hansen:

http://www.scoobymag.com/preview/speccra/speccra.htm

Front shot
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar01/01_b.jpg

Side shot
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar01/02_b.jpg

Front close up
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar01/03_b.jpg

Engine
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar01/04_b.jpg

Damper, springs
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar01/05_b.jpg

The 2nd pic reveals the longer nose, doesn't it.

Front II
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar02/01_b.jpg

Rear sus
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar02/02_b.jpg

STI muffler
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar02/03_b.jpg

STI wheel
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar02/04_b.jpg

"Keep attacking the Nurburgring" decal
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar02/05_b.jpg

TYPE RA emblem
http://www.auto-g.jp/image.html?image=news/200509/22/newcar02/06_b.jpg

Now I am glad I avoided shooting that car in Hakone - my pics would have ended up looking the same!

Cheers,

Paul Hansen
www.avoturboworld.com | www.sevenphotos.com | www.scoobymag.com

I only like the way the 06 looks there....kinda!

Damn that front looks horrible from that perfrect side shot!!!Way to long IMO.

Still love the wheels though...damn I wish I was 5x114 for those 17's...18"'s are too much for me.

IF IAN LITCHFIELD ever finishes the twinscroll package for 2.5, I could upgrade to that, and it would be very special.

Thats actually gonna be for sale apart from the type-25 as a stand alone product??????

sign me up ;)

Where can I get my hands on all these parts?
*oops im blind*

Where can I get my hands on all these parts?

http://www.racecompengineering.com/spec_c.htm

:D

WOW! :D That's so beautiful!

Who wants to work on getting the signature of every damn Nasioc and clubwrx member to get these damn cars here, lol. Obviously it would take God's own hand to get it here, but why can we not try? Im pissed enough America is always given the basic of the basic. I nearly cried when the evo's did not get active yaw control, I punched a window when we they discontinued the RX-7 in 1995 and released the Spirit R in 2002, flipped out when we never got the NSX type-r(father now owns a regular 05 because we couldnt get the real deal) but this, this is going to far...this is the last time. It's time to act.

Who wants to work on getting the signature of every damn Nasioc and clubwrx member to get these damn cars here, lol. Obviously it would take God's own hand to get it here, but why can we not try? Im pissed enough America is always given the basic of the basic. I nearly cried when the evo's did not get active yaw control, I punched a window when we they discontinued the RX-7 in 1995 and released the Spirit R in 2002, flipped out when we never got the NSX type-r(father now owns a regular 05 because we couldnt get the real deal) but this, this is going to far...this is the last time. It's time to act.



Yeah, this has to be brought to Subarus attention.


I refuse to buy another Subaru while RA's and Spec B's and Forrester STi's, and S203's exist but are not available to me......I dont want any of Subaru's "leftovers." I love Subaru and their products, but this should be a reciprocal manufacturer/consumer relationship.

Clarification: I love Subaru and STi. Im just very frustrated that I had to spend a huge amount of money in getting various group N suspension parts, parts that are already included stock in one of their vehicles (type RA I believe).......and this car actually costs less than a standard STi.

Maybe they'll rectify this for '07? Either way, it shouldn't have taken so long for Subaru to see that there is a big market for their various "STi" vehicles here in North America.

Bring it, Subaru.

Actually, you have to purchase most, if not all, of the group N parts separate from the stripper RA. And the Spec C RA that is the focus of this particular thread is actually about 3.8 million yen, which is about $4,200.00usd more than the standard STI.

Trust me, we don't get anything for free here in Japan.

In regards to the special editions, like the S203, it is much easier for them to build something like that in Japan versus America. There is not as much certification processes here as in America - if Subaru made a special motor just for a limited 400 car run, they may have to re-certify that motor when it comes to America. I'm not sure of all the things necessary, but it really is not as simple as Subaru just shipping the car over and selling it. Trust me, if they could, then SOJ and STI would.

Cheers,

Paul Hansen
www.avoturboworld.com | www.sevenphotos.com | www.scoobymag.com

Actually, you have to purchase most, if not all, of the group N parts separate from the stripper RA. And the Spec C RA that is the focus of this particular thread is actually about 3.8 million yen, which is about $4,200.00usd more than the standard STI.

Trust me, we don't get anything for free here in Japan.

In regards to the special editions, like the S203, it is much easier for them to build something like that in Japan versus America. There is not as much certification processes here as in America - if Subaru made a special motor just for a limited 400 car run, they may have to re-certify that motor when it comes to America. I'm not sure of all the things necessary, but it really is not as simple as Subaru just shipping the car over and selling it. Trust me, if they could, then SOJ and STI would.

Cheers,

Paul Hansen
www.avoturboworld.com | www.sevenphotos.com | www.scoobymag.com


Even if the car cost more off the lot, it would still be much cheaper than adding all the parts yourself to a stock STi.

I appreciate your info and feedback BTW.

I just think that these cars would be in demand over here....I definitely would buy one anyway. And it would also boost Subarus status as well.

Think of it this way.....of the sizeable number of people here that have already purchased STi's (proven market), a good number of these folks would step up to a spec C. That would be more than enough to cover sales of an already "limited" vehicle, but at the same time will improve overall status and visibility of the company as a whole. Their marketing should be a little more aggressive in this regard.

Like I said, we're not asking subaru to magically pull cars out of a hat for us.....they should simply provide their various performance vehicles that are already available in other markets, yet not in North America.

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/spec_c_RA2005/imgs/top.jpg

Omg, this is just wordless. I think I have driven one before in my dream.

http://www.subaru-sti.co.jp/spec_c_RA2005/imgs/top.jpg

Omg, this is just wordless. I think I have driven one before in my dream.

No. The one that you get to drive in your dream has a good looking front end.

No. The one that you get to drive in your dream has a good looking front end.

:rolleyes:

No. The one that you get to drive in your dream has a good looking front end.

The new front looks better with the lip and 1" lower ride hight. Looks much better in person.

Should be easy enough for Subaru to sell this thing with everything but the engine/gearbox in the USDM market as a special edition ... I just wish ...

Then you can buy gear ratios and a type 25 engine kit to retrofit the USDM drivetrain = perfect STI

yep, even the older spec-c's had A/C. Little known fact. They actually have a special lightweight compressor! :banana:

Id like to get my hands on that sweet pink RSB!!

I thought they were only making 1000 so that they can race in group N

Even if the car cost more off the lot, it would still be much cheaper than adding all the parts yourself to a stock STi.

I appreciate your info and feedback BTW.

I just think that these cars would be in demand over here....I definitely would buy one anyway. And it would also boost Subarus status as well.

Think of it this way.....of the sizeable number of people here that have already purchased STi's (proven market), a good number of these folks would step up to a spec C. That would be more than enough to cover sales of an already "limited" vehicle, but at the same time will improve overall status and visibility of the company as a whole. Their marketing should be a little more aggressive in this regard.

Like I said, we're not asking subaru to magically pull cars out of a hat for us.....they should simply provide their various performance vehicles that are already available in other markets, yet not in North America.


The problem is in the crash testing requirements. If you remember the ESX STi, they had to use the stock suspension, otherwise, they have to crash test the "new" car. Remember, when they crash test cars, they have to wreck something like 400 of them I think. So to do a specialy version of a car they have to release enough to make the crash tests worth while, and I beleive the biggest reason they make the Spec-C is because of the demands of 1000 production cars in order to race, so they won't bother with the hassle to test it for the states. Subaru probably looks at the Spec-c as a pain in the ass to produce anyway and just does it to qualify. For this reason we won't see one here ever. Also we will never see a low volume production run car here that has a different suspension than the STi. So in short, we have to hope for a large volume run of something like this, which is highly unlikely. If I remember correctally the ESX STi did not sell well here and that was probably the test bed for special editions.

The 2.5 RS was the test for the WRX
The WRX was the test for the STi
the STi was the test for ESX
the ESX was the test for the ???

Ben

The 2.5 RS was the test for the WRX
The WRX was the test for the STi
the STi was the test for ESX
the ESX was the test for the ???

Ben

The ESX had nothing to do with what Imprezas Fuji considers offering America from the factory. Its an aftermarket car with a rediculous price tag.

The problem is in the crash testing requirements. If you remember the ESX STi, they had to use the stock suspension, otherwise, they have to crash test the "new" car. Remember, when they crash test cars, they have to wreck something like 400 of them I think. So to do a specialy version of a car they have to release enough to make the crash tests worth while,


400? Got anything to back that up?

Subaru made changes to the stock suspension on 05 Imprezas, I don't recall anything about having to re-crash test the cars.

The new Legacy Spec B has different struts, same deal.

The new Legacy Spec B has different struts, same deal.Exactly. And they're only bringing 500 of the Spec B's to the US.

There's really only ONE major difference of note between USDM vs JDM.....different crash test standards. This problem has been practically solved a la US (big-ass) bumper beams.

Emissions: vary all over (california for example) and is small matter technically.
Shipping? Our cars are from Japan anyway.

My point is that it wont kill Subaru to meet US DOT regulations for a couple more models (and limited ones at that).



This is simply is a VERY conservative testing of the waters by Subaru. Too conservative.....notice how the EVO already has gotten a better reputation for handling than the STi (USDM, not Spec C).

As noted, the Group N is a limited production vehicle, as are others (spec B, F. STi). But they make the company look good and boost overall image and visibility and, ultimately, sales as well.

And I would love to pimp the spec C or B. any day.

Bring it, Subaru.

Remember, when they crash test cars, they have to wreck something like 400 of them I think.

I have issue with that number. If that was true, the Skyline GTRs would never have passed the crash tests and been certified by the nhtsa to be imported in the US.

Can you please show the proof of that number?

Not to support the 400 number - it's much, much lower than that - but the Skyline GT-R really hasn't gotten completely certified by the NHTSA. There was a thread about that recently, and the best place to check for the status on all that is the nissan-oriented freshalloy forums. The problems it has had have not had to do with crash testing, however.

If the manufacturers simply had to crash-test 10 cars, and that was it, then there would be far more vehicle variants in America right now. There is a whole battery of different tests and certification that is involved. All the Japanese automakers lineups have a list of vehicles 3-4 times larger than what is seen in America. In fact, of all the Japanese makers, Subaru probably has the largest percentage of vehicles similar to both countries. Who wouldn't have enjoyed the RWD, manual transmissioned turbocharged and intercooled 2.5-liter inline six power Toyota Chaser/Mark II Tourer V 4-door sedan? Supra drivetrain components, 5-person seating, $30k price range. There is much, much, much more vehicles like that in every manufacturers lineup here in Japan.

Cheers,

Paul Hansen
www.avoturboworld.com | www.sevenphotos.com | www.scoobymag.com

I thought it was 2. One for frontal offset impact and one for side impact. The 400 number probably comes from the minimum number of cars a manufacturer needs to sell at average profit margins to make crashing 2 of their cars a worthwhile venture.

I believe crash testing only needs to be re-done when the ride height is changed significantly. Shock valving will not change the ride height significantly.

Not to support the 400 number - it's much, much lower than that - but the Skyline GT-R really hasn't gotten completely certified by the NHTSA. There was a thread about that recently, and the best place to check for the status on all that is the nissan-oriented freshalloy forums. The problems it has had have not had to do with crash testing, however.

If the manufacturers simply had to crash-test 10 cars, and that was it, then there would be far more vehicle variants in America right now. There is a whole battery of different tests and certification that is involved. All the Japanese automakers lineups have a list of vehicles 3-4 times larger than what is seen in America. In fact, of all the Japanese makers, Subaru probably has the largest percentage of vehicles similar to both countries. Who wouldn't have enjoyed the RWD, manual transmissioned turbocharged and intercooled 2.5-liter inline six power Toyota Chaser/Mark II Tourer V 4-door sedan? Supra drivetrain components, 5-person seating, $30k price range. There is much, much, much more vehicles like that in every manufacturers lineup here in Japan.

Cheers,

Paul Hansen
www.avoturboworld.com | www.sevenphotos.com | www.scoobymag.com

I would also think the cost of retooling cars for left-hand drive, as well as retuning drivetrains for different gas and emissions standards could be factors.

so nasty

I would also think the cost of retooling cars for left-hand drive, as well as retuning drivetrains for different gas and emissions standards could be factors.


To repeat:

These are pre-existing cars in Subarus line....they are not re-inventing the wheel or inventing new technology.

To repeat:

These are pre-existing cars in Subarus line....they are not re-inventing the wheel or inventing new technology.

How does that relate in any way to what I posted? :huh:

How does that relate in any way to what I posted? :huh:


Im trying to say that these things are not significant factors that would affect cost..... Subaru already does this for the said vehicles, and a huge portion of the hardware is redundant between these lineups (STi's and Spec C's, and Legacy/Spec B).



Better components would be nice though, like twinscrolls, Bilstiens, Group N bushings...and the list goes on.

Many people have installed stuff on their cars at their own expense, but it would be nice (and VERY convenient) to be able to get it off the lot.

This is not about telling the consumer what he SHOULD buy or have, but about giving access to a premium, LIMITED, version of a car should he decide (and can afford) to purchase it.

They already make a Spec C (Type UK), which is LHD if I remember correctly.

The technology is there... they can rebuild it, better.. faster...

:)

Spec C Spec C Spec C!!!

- dow

Ps. They are already bringing a Spec B, but it isnt really a Spec B. :(

To repeat:

These are pre-existing cars in Subarus line....they are not re-inventing the wheel or inventing new technology.


I agree with 'Lappa........the fact that we dont get ANY type of super Impereza,..sucks big round objects...........BAD.

mw

See what happens when you canget your hands on the good stuff........

http://www.litchfieldimports.co.uk/tunergp/tunergp.asp

The white car is BEYOND HOT !!!!!

mw

Im trying to say that these things are not significant factors that would affect cost..... Subaru already does this for the said vehicles, and a huge portion of the hardware is redundant between these lineups (STi's and Spec C's, and Legacy/Spec B).


i was replying to paul's comment about jdm-only vehicles that would be nice to have in the states. i wasn't speaking of subarus. i'm more than well aware of the potential availability of other versions of the impreza.

cars that are sold only in japan would require extensive work and cost to convert them to left hand drive, and retune them to meet our gas and emissions standards. thats what i was refferring to, thats why i quoted paul's post.

Bumped in the hope that Subaru notices that we want this car.

Bring it, Subaru!