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josh...just josh
09-01-2005, 12:22 PM
i really want to do something to my car this coming summer... swaping a turbo'ed engine seems to be a lot of headache and hearing of blown motors kinda shakes my confidence in going that route. I was thinking that a svx engine would be really neat, wrx power in a linear, predictable, and torque filled fashion. without the complications of turbos. i'm sure that this is a very involved swap, i'm thinking that some fabrication will be needed, but with most svx's being obd1 it would seem that wiring might be easier, maybe much easier. I know that this isn't a very common swap but you guys probable know something sbout it, what all has to be changed to get it to mount? thanks in advance for the help

Fuzz541
09-01-2005, 02:29 PM
I think it would be easier to swap a USDM WRX engine than an SVX engine. From all my recent reading on SVX boards (just bought an SVX), it seems that everything mod that would take one step with an Impreza or Legacy takes three steps with an SVX. The engine itself is very tough, and with lower gearing would be quick and smooth (stock = 3.545 FD, theoretical top speed @ redline = 195mph - :wow: ). However, it's a big engine for an Impreza bay and may require cutting/welding/fabrication as you mentioned. Keep searching here.

Also, check out www.subaru-svx.net for lots of technical stuff.

supermoose
09-01-2005, 03:42 PM
its been done before, search around alot and u can figure out stuff.

easier to swap in a POS usdm wrx engine in for sure.

motorsports=blown motor with anything. when u drive out on the racetrack you are going with the full knowledge taht somthing may very well blow up, or you can hit a wall at 140mph and die.

has nothing to do with it being a turbo EJ20 or a flat 6. porsches and ferraris blow up all the time at the racetrack too. if you want to drive a performance car then you are agreeing to the terms that it quite possibly cost you $$$$ for repairs and such. if you arnt willing to suffer the costs, DONT PLAY.

out of all honesty, if you are asking this kind of question, dont even bother thinking about a SVX swap.

josh...just josh
09-01-2005, 04:16 PM
i'm not really meaning anything by the question, it's just that 200-250hp i think would be good for me and if i can get it in a n/a engine it would be nice. i understand that the whole turbo 4/ flat 6 thing has nothing to do with engines blowing. what does have to do with it is wrong settings... turbos have a lot of potentiall wrong settings...i'm just going to find an ej22t and be done with it, the only real issuse i was wondering about was trying to mount the thing (svx) seems like more trouble than its worth

supermoose
09-01-2005, 05:01 PM
a ej22t.... i dunno man. i really wouldnt suggest it. its to damm old and nasty. too much work. u be better of with a bone stock ej205 usdm or a fast JDM wrx swap.

everyone wants 250hp NA. id trade my 320ps Ej20 for it immediately. you have wrong settings if u screw with it, if you're smart you have it tuned OEM style by a good tuner.

things blow up because they blow up. mechanical things simply fail. the NA porsches run at the track and blow up somtimes, tahts just part of life.

kheff46
09-01-2005, 05:02 PM
H6-you can do it! you're better off using a newer legacy H6 though. it's far smaller and if new enough you can get one with "auto shift" version transmission(could be fun). but an older EZ30 would work fine(2001+) too. i believe it "bolts right up" aside from possibly having to remove your ABS block! i think besides wiring and normal swap stuff(minor fab) you're in!

josh...just josh
09-01-2005, 07:36 PM
I dont man...the ej22t seems like it is bullet proof, i just likethe idea of closed deck engines with cast sleeves. where do you guys get your engines for your swaps? I'm really only looking to spend something in the range of a grand on the whole deal, I want some thing in the range of 200hp that is reliable.... pipe dream anyone?

josh...just josh
09-01-2005, 07:39 PM
the new ez30 is as expensive as hell... there is a dreamer side of me that wants to see someone put decked sleeves and forged internals in the eg33 block and throw some twin turbo action into it.... never something that I could afford to pay, but it's nice to dream. and buy the way that grand-ish includes me doing all the work as I am fairly mechanical

supermoose
09-01-2005, 11:24 PM
ej22 is at least 11 yeaers old. 11 years old is a long time.

closed deck dosnt mean crap. ej207 is the best subaru engine money can buy, its not closed deck. the closed deck thing is a myth to an extent. YOu dont need closed deck. i dotn need closed deck. closed deck has nothing to do with spinning bearings, bending valves etc.

who do you know on a subaru that has Broken a cylinder wall?

NO ONE. its always the ringlands on the pistons that go, the rods, a spun bearing.........or most mosty likey a broken gearbox.

think.

how much money do u have> u are new to this game right>?

ej22t is a old big block with POS heads and POS turbo and no intercooler. basically it requires an entire rebuild, new heads from a DOHC, a real turbo, real intercooler etc etc etc.

think before you wonder why everyone here in teh know is just swapping in a EJ20.

go get a ej22t and make the car run reliable 12 sec 1/4 miles. then come ask me how much i spent for my OEM reliable EJ20. you'll cry when u realize how much more u spent.

djmic
09-01-2005, 11:34 PM
the 3.3l are duds the new h6 3.0l are the bomb 250hp

josh...just josh
09-02-2005, 03:01 PM
i dont know man... i guess that i have "heard" of open decks rounding out or blowing a hole in the cylinder walls... i did actually just read about how the ej20 is the worst subaru engine, if open deck is fine for power then why is the sti semi-closed? i think that it matters when you get up into the high power numbers..stock-ish wrx power would be fine for me so i'm sure that the ej20 would be fine. i am kinda new to subaru, but pretty much everyday i've read what i can and i'm pretty much in the know about all this stuff. where do you guys get the engines for your swaps? i've seen ej20's for sale in the range of $900-1100, but those are jdm engines usallly without ignitors, harnesses, or ecu's.

Homemade WRX
09-02-2005, 04:31 PM
if doing a flat 6 do the new EZ30....otherwise do a WRX or sti swap...being your car is obd-2 you may run into testing/emissions testing if putting in a svx or turbo legacy motor....
so you could save money by getting an older lighter better geared impreza and then have all the engine choices...the only thing is AC is easier on the 97+ imprezas for the newer wrx engine swaps...
I love my engine swap and have ice cold AC though...and worth everybit of work I spent converting

JDM_Scobaru
09-02-2005, 08:26 PM
STI shortblock with forged pistons,rods, and call it a day.

Fuzz541
09-02-2005, 08:59 PM
the 3.3l are duds the new h6 3.0l are the bomb 250hpThe 3.3 is not a dud - it's a great engine hobbled by several factors:
A) SVX: 3500#
B) FD: 3.545 Johnny Tallman
C) SVX: 25,000 total worldwide sales = not much aftermarket support

The SVX comes alive with a 5-speed Legacy transmission and 4.11 gears. Or so I've read on the infallible intarweb in the week since I bought my SVX. ;)

Scoobie Steve
09-02-2005, 10:27 PM
ej22 is at least 11 yeaers old. 11 years old is a long time.

closed deck dosnt mean crap. ej207 is the best subaru engine money can buy, its not closed deck. the closed deck thing is a myth to an extent. YOu dont need closed deck. i dotn need closed deck. closed deck has nothing to do with spinning bearings, bending valves etc.

who do you know on a subaru that has Broken a cylinder wall?

NO ONE. its always the ringlands on the pistons that go, the rods, a spun bearing.........or most mosty likey a broken gearbox.


Hmmm sounds like something I would say(or did say). :lol:

josh...just josh (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/member.php?u=82273) If your budget is seriously a grand you better go buy an exhaust system for your car and call it a day. You cant do anything with a grand anymore.

Homemade WRX
09-03-2005, 02:27 AM
I thought the many many many ring failures were do to supposed cylinder wall flexing under det...?
anyhow I must agree...the EJ22g block is only really beneficial if running a ton of boost

supermoose
09-04-2005, 12:13 AM
if you only have a thousand bux, save your money and go do a lot of trackdays. pay for gas (at $3 a gal), and thats about it. u cant really afford to mess around with a budget like that. thats the truth.

ask any of the guys that have been playing for a while now......$$$$$$

Miggidy
09-06-2005, 03:50 AM
the new ez30 is as expensive as hell... there is a dreamer side of me that wants to see someone put decked sleeves and forged internals in the eg33 block and throw some twin turbo action into it.... never something that I could afford to pay, but it's nice to dream. and buy the way that grand-ish includes me doing all the work as I am fairly mechanical


I have an EZ30 long block for sale with an auto transmission. I was going to do a similar project with my GC8 but have to go overseas for work. I will sell the long block for a fair price. I'll porbably lose money on it but I need the cash before I go.

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