'06 WRX lights [Archive]

Uncle Scotty

11-10-2005, 06:44 AM

Well, I am hoping that it's an improvement over even the LGT that I have. What a great car that is. Anyway, I look forward to reading your review.. post a link here so I don't have to chase it down.. or PM me ;) Congrats on the new car!

....the LGT has a larger turbo....vf40, IIRC.......the WRX still has the stoopid td04 :rolleyes: so that is where some of the hp diff is.

the new WRX platform is just SO MUCH nicer than the original(the damned thing is STILL as stiffly sprung as a marshmallow :furious: )......and if I could have afforded the LGT :(----THAT, without any possible boubt, is what I would have bought.

Mo later...

Dr. Zevil

11-10-2005, 11:23 AM

....the LGT has a larger turbo....vf40, IIRC.......the WRX still has the stoopid td04 :rolleyes: so that is where some of the hp diff is.

the new WRX platform is just SO MUCH nicer than the original(the damned thing is STILL as stiffly sprung as a marshmallow :furious: )......and if I could have afforded the LGT :(----THAT, without any possible boubt, is what I would have bought.

Mo later...

I had considered just getting another LGT but having two in the family seemed a little silly. With the WRX I am just going to mod it and have a fast car to play with.. that will be within budget. Thje wife will drive the LGT wagon. What a great car it is though! I love it.

In case you didn't know Scotty, the 06 WRX puts down more power to the ground than the LGT and is a couple hundred pounds lighter.. also has taller gearing and waaaay better breaks. Also upgrading the LGT exhaust system costs a TON! ;) Just wanted you to feel better :lol:

josephdai

11-11-2005, 12:24 AM

has anyone confirmed that 06 wrx use the same stock projector as 06 sti?

Power_Getter

11-11-2005, 04:05 AM

lighting #s for your car;
2006 SUBARU WRX ST1

Low beam headlamp
HID-D2R

High beam headlamp
9005

Parking light
168

Front turn signal
7440

Tail light
7443

Stop light
7440
7443

High mount stop light
921

Fog/Driving light
H3-55W

License plate
168

Back up light
7440

Front sidemarker
168

Rear sidemarker
168

Ash tray
74

Map light
DE3175

Dome light
DE3175

Trunk/Cargo area
921

Low beam headlamp
HID-D2S (NOT D2R)

They are using D2R for reflector HID and D2S for projector HID ;)

Mulder

11-11-2005, 07:57 AM

Low beam headlamp
HID-D2S (NOT D2R)

They are using D2R for reflector HID and D2S for projector HID ;)

Or, in Scotty's case H7 since he doesn't have an STI :)

jawwadh

11-13-2005, 08:22 PM

Or, in Scotty's case H7 since he doesn't have an STI :)

soo.. if someone had an 06 wrx and they bought these

http://xenondepot.com/product.php?product_id=4

they would have bought the right ones correct?

wgb113

11-13-2005, 08:56 PM

Uncle Scotty

11-13-2005, 09:05 PM

From what I'm told the '06 Impreza uses very high quality optics for both their halogen and HID projector low beams. A +50 bulb like the Osram Silverstar should get a lot out of those great optics.

Hey Unc, care to post any pics of the beam pattern against a wall?

Bill

....the lights appear to be VERY good, to me....I have a TR, so no HID's, and it will be a day or 2 for any pics, but yes I can take some....the beam pattern is VERY-VERY distinct......very flat and easily visible 'cut offs'.

wgb113

11-16-2005, 03:06 PM

Daniel Stern's recommending the Osram Rallye H7 65W for our '06 low-beam (non-HID) projectors.

He says the 10 extra watts won't melt the wiring...anyone??

Bill

wgb113

11-17-2005, 11:18 AM

Hello hello hello...is there anybody in here?

DS also said in regards to the Osram Rallye only being suited for racing/special purpose use:

"some lamps do not have sufficiently good focus to handle
the extra light without causing a glare problem. Subaru's present projectors have excellent focus; the 65w bulbs pose no concern."

Still wondering about the extra 10W, especially if I flash my high beams on using a +10W 9011 HIR bulb...

Bill

Uncle Scotty

11-17-2005, 12:56 PM

.....yeah....what about the HIR bulbs????

Can someone linky me, plz???? :alien:

Handsdown

11-17-2005, 01:10 PM

soo.. if someone had an 06 wrx and they bought these

http://xenondepot.com/product.php?product_id=4

they would have bought the right ones correct?
yeah but they'll still have glare unless they install some proper HID cutoff plates...

you're not fooling anyone. don't put that **** on your car unless you get the proper cutoff(i think you should be able to use the cutoff from an 06 sti.)

wgb113

11-17-2005, 02:31 PM

http://www.finemotoring.com/ for info on the HIR bulbs. Both those and the Osram Rallye can be bought from Daniel Stern. I'm going with the following:

Low-Beam: Osram Rallye H7
High-Beam: Toshiba 9011 HIR
Fogs: CPI Universal Gold H3

Comes to $142...that's a fraction of the price of HID low-beam only conversion with nearly 75% of the output on the low-beams and great performance from the highs and fogs.

Bill

surfer.tech

11-17-2005, 07:47 PM

^^ can you send me pics when you get them installed?

wgb113

11-17-2005, 08:06 PM

^^ can you send me pics when you get them installed?

Definitely...though I got the call this afternoon that the foglight kit didn't come in yesterday and isn't due in until Friday so I can't pick the car up until Saturday.

My rental is a Mazda 6 w/ halogen projectors. The cutoff is razor sharp but they're not very bright. I don't know if it's just old bulbs or bad projectors. When I test drove the Impreza I noticed a difference. I can only imagine a good bulb like the Osram Rallye will build upon that.

Bill

surfer.tech

11-17-2005, 08:12 PM

thanks!!

yea i have an 02 and an 06.. and the 06 is so much better than the 02's.

Uncle Scotty

11-19-2005, 01:09 AM

wgb113

11-19-2005, 08:23 AM

Got an email from Daniel saying that he won't have more of the Osram Rallye bulbs in for 10 days. I placed the order anyway...it'll give me time to live with the stock bulbs and appreciate the increase in performance.

Bill

Dr. Zevil

11-19-2005, 12:19 PM

jtsimaras

11-21-2005, 03:34 PM

Agreed, projector beams are much better!

And the cutoff---is awesome for halogen projectors.

jtsimaras

11-21-2005, 03:55 PM

Has anybody installed an Hid Conversion kit---I would like to--but I might end up doing a retro---in the long run---so much darn work though. I did a retro on my 02 civic sir---took about 30 hours--and cost around 500 $.

matt_8105

11-21-2005, 11:47 PM

I just got my 2006 Impreza 2.5i today. I must say, the headlights are really bright and the beam pattern is distinct. I am also debating whether or not I should get replacement bulbs to improve the lighting better. Perhaps a bulb with at least the same amount of brightness but whiter light would be great. Any recommendations?

In the future I am also considering getting an HID replacement. I am new to this so I am wondering if I need a kit that 'works' with my current setup? If so, how can I check (I know for halogen replacements I need to match the same bulb type and so forth).

Uncle Scotty

11-22-2005, 01:37 AM

Samirr76

11-22-2005, 10:11 AM

HIR bulbs are now available through Susquehanna Motorsports as well. They have them at a pretty good price too. www.rallylights.com

They have been fulfilling all my aftermarket lighting needs for many years now. :cool:

mattjk

11-23-2005, 12:56 AM

Scotty, are you going to do an HID kit or retrofit?

I've done a few and the H7 kits work pretty well, especially if they are valeos. Can anyone verify this?

I'm going to do a kit on my wife's WRX TR. Hella balasts are around $200 on ebay... and there are plenty of rebased bulbs out there.

Here is a thread that I did on my 02.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=457220

wgb113

11-23-2005, 09:50 AM

Retrofit HID kits do not work and are illegal in the U.S.

Conversions are a better way to go but you must do a 100% conversion, including the optics and leveling system. Even then, Subaru HIDs are missing one vital component that the rest of the world realizes is necessary for HIDs, a automatic washing system.

Bill

Hank3

11-23-2005, 10:29 AM

Without knowing if the Subaru projector units are shared or not amongst its lineup, one can't assume if it would be positively good or bad idea sticking in an HID kit. I believe it's safe to assume that we all know that a retrofit is the best idea other than OEM HIDs.

So far, the Legacy, Tribeca, and '06 WRX and STI use projector setup. No one has verified if the STI HID setup is using different projectors from the other vehicles. If someone could find out the part numbers, it would perhaps help members who are toying with the idea of sticking in an aftermarket HID kit in the '06 WRXs. Or if someone who is pretty knowledged in the field of HIDs and projector optics, they could compare the projector units of the WRX and STI?

psyber_0ptix

11-23-2005, 10:48 AM

scotty, i have some HIR 9011 bulbs. PM me if you are interested.

i'll pre-modify them for you since i have so much spare time lol

wgb113

11-23-2005, 11:18 AM

Without knowing if the Subaru projector units are shared or not amongst its lineup, one can't assume if it would be positively good or bad idea sticking in an HID kit. I believe it's safe to assume that we all know that a retrofit is the best idea other than OEM HIDs.

Not to get this thread off-topic but a retrofit (HID bulbs & ballasts) into halogen projector optics is illegal in our country and is not a a good "idea" by any means. All you are doing by retrofitting halogen projectors with bulbs and ballasts is getting the "look of HID" as provided by phony pser Sylvania SilverStar bulbs. They cannot be aimed correctly, result in glare to oncoming drivers, and oftentimes throw less light down the road, concentrating it more on the foreground, making it more dangerous for the driver of the vehicle.

So far, the Legacy, Tribeca, and '06 WRX and STI use projector setup. No one has verified if the STI HID setup is using different projectors from the other vehicles. If someone could find out the part numbers, it would perhaps help members who are toying with the idea of sticking in an aftermarket HID kit in the '06 WRXs. Or if someone who is pretty knowledged in the field of HIDs and projector optics, they could compare the projector units of the WRX and STI?

I am 99.9% sure that the halogen projectors are completely different than the HID projector optics due to the technology intended. Refer to Daniel Stern's website for more info. In the meantime I'll try to get the part #s.

Bill

Hank3

11-23-2005, 11:29 AM

wgb113 - I echo your sentiments on the legality of "HID" kits, but repeating that over and over again on the boards won't stop the people who are determined in getting HIDs. I've pretty much accepted that and have resorted to providing the next best solution for people. We all know OEM HIDs are the best and properly retrofitting HIDs with HID projectors is the best solution, but I'd rather people put HID kits in halogen projectors than reflector-based setups. I have an H7 HID kit in my Prodrive UK300 lights, which have the Hella H7 90mm halogens, but I've modified the glare shields so that blinding isn't an issue for oncoming drivers. It seems that the Subaru projectors have DOT cutoff patterns which is even better than the ECE cutoffs that you get from European projector units.

I'm also 99.9% sure that the STI HID projectors are different from the Legacy, Tribeca, and WRX units, but someone on the Legacy boards was defending very stubbornly that Subaru is sharing the same projector units in all of their cars. I'm skeptical of that, so that's why I haven't 100% ruled out the possibility of the same projector units being used across the board with Subaru ;)

mattjk

11-23-2005, 12:14 PM

oh lord.

wgb113

11-23-2005, 12:20 PM

Hank,

Just wanted to make people aware that they could be pulled over and sighted for improper lighting and perhaps save them some money if lighting PERFORMANCE is what they're looking for.

For less than $150 I'll have better performing low beams, high beams and fog lights than someone that spends $500 retrofitting only their low-beams with HID bulbs and ballasts.

Bill

Hank3

11-23-2005, 12:40 PM

oh lord.
What now matt? :huh:

wgb113

11-23-2005, 12:48 PM

Guys...it was just an FYI for people that may not have been aware.

Also, got the part numbers for 2006 Impreza headlight assemblies from SubieGal, part numbers are for drivers side/passenger side:

2.5i/WRX (Halogen): 84001fe680 / 84001fe690

STI (HID): 84001fe720 / 84001fe730

Those part numbers would include everything you would need to replace a headlight: housing, projectors, bulbs, mounting hardware. I assume the STI part numbers include ballasts.

Unless the person in the Legacy forums is a trained automotive lighting professional that can examine the optics I'd assume that they are NOT the same for HID and Halogen.

Bill

jonney_boy

11-24-2005, 08:50 AM

Hank3

11-24-2005, 10:34 AM

With projectors, halogen and HID projector differences are noticeable in the hot spots. Cutoff would look the same, but the light spread would not be maximized with the halogen projectors.

parametric

11-28-2005, 12:57 PM

all three bulb numbers are listed on the top of the headlight housing on my 06. open your hood and take a look. :D

Uncle Scotty

11-28-2005, 11:55 PM

all three bulb numbers are listed on the top of the headlight housing on my 06. open your hood and take a look. :D

....i didn't HAVE an '06 to open the hood to look at at the time :rolleyes:

wgb113

11-30-2005, 01:50 PM

Still waiting for DS to get the Osram Rallye bulbs in...a few more days...

Bill

jtsimaras

11-30-2005, 02:32 PM

Some post some pics of the hid on the stock projectors---in particular cuttoff---please---please

:banana:

wgb113

12-19-2005, 02:03 PM

I got my bulbs finally on Friday and installed them this weekend:

Low-Beam: Osram Rallye H7
High-Beam: Toshiba HIR 9011
Fogs: CPI Universal Gold H3

They Osrams are only +10W over stock and designed for off-road/competitions use only. Since the Subaru halogen projectors are of high quality with good focus they can be used without fear of causing glare to oncoming drivers. They put out 2100 lumens (compared to 1500 for the stock bulbs) and it really shows. Everything within the cutoff is bright and the cutoff seams even better defined.

The Toshiba HIR's had to have the tab modified to fit but that was simple. They also require you to back out the screws on the bulb housing so that you can turn them into proper place during installation. These things are BRIGHT as well, throwing a LOT of light very far down the road. They put out 2500 lumens compared to the the stock bulb's 1700.

The CPI Golds are simply a bulb with a selective yellow tint to the glass.

Install of the highs was the easiest. Lows weren't as bad as on the '04-'05 but space is tight on the driver's side if you leave the battery in. The fogs were the same as on the '04-'05.

I'll try to get some pics and post'em up.

Bill

x5-992

12-19-2005, 10:19 PM

Whew...good thing I searched first...

I'm looking to replace the bulbs in my headlights on my '06. I already replaced the high-beam with a Street Glow 9005XS. A bit brighter plus creates a cool blue reflection in the headlights. I'd like to replace the turn signals and parking light with brighter blue lights but the manual doesn't say what bulb number I need for the turn signal, and 168 for the parking light.

wgb113

12-19-2005, 10:49 PM

FWIW, I was going for better useable lighting...not looks. With the low and high beams I've now got an extra 1400 lumens and with the fogs I've got less glare.

Also disabled the DRL.

Bill

Uncle Scotty

12-20-2005, 12:50 PM

wht93gted

12-20-2005, 01:44 PM

....perfect recipe for great, inexpensive, non-blinding light, IMO

I can't seem to find where I can buy the Osram Ralley h7 bulbs at?

Uncle Scotty

12-20-2005, 01:49 PM

I can't seem to find where I can buy the Osram Ralley h7 bulbs at?

....the UK ;)

wgb113

12-20-2005, 01:55 PM

or from:

www.danielsternlighting.com
www.rallylights.com

For less than $150 (assuming you buy fogs) YOU WILL NOT GET BETTER LIGHTING IN YOUR STOCK LIGHTS.

Bill

fasterthanrayswrx

12-20-2005, 02:01 PM

LOL..... i'm sure somebody has gone ahead and done the HID retrofit by now on a 06 wrx (bulbs + ballast).....

we should just park the car beside a STi and see if the beam pattern is similar/same.. that should answer most questions...

If I can't SEE the difference with the cars side by side, i'm sure there is not a big difference on the road :).

Granted, the cutoff will also have to checked. I had a friend with a H7 retrofit in his celica, after a slight modification to the cutoff plate, I would say it is 90% as good as a oem setup (say audi).. "slight" hotspot in the middle and WAY WAY better than stock halogens. The cutoff is also perfectly sharp.
I'm also wondering this. My friend installed hids on his Miata, and the cutoff is pretty good and doesn't blind oncoming drivers. Although there may be less usable light (I'm not sure), and it IS a Miata so its really low to the ground, but maybe projector halogens aren't that bad to retrofit hids into since it doesn't blind oncoming drivers. Although it is illegal, but so is my exhaust :devil: .
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/845000-845999/845668_8.jpghttp://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/845000-845999/845668_2.jpg

jtsimaras

12-20-2005, 02:18 PM

I'm going to do a retro however using my stock projectors just bought some used ballasts and bulbs and an h7 adapter from HIDPLanet---I will keep you posted. If I don't like the results I will do a projector retro as i did with my civic sir.

The following pics are from a retro I did on my 2002 civic sir---what alot of work used e46 projectors from an 2004 M3.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzY5ODY3NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzY5ODYxNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzY5ODcwNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzY5ODYwNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzY5ODcxNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzY5ODYyNnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wNzY5ODY1NnM0MTNkZmQzMXk1NDE%3D.jpg

wht93gted

12-21-2005, 12:53 PM

....the UK ;)

thanks!

well, i just ordered the Osram 65w High output from SuvLights

i can't post like cause i haven't had 5 posts yet, so here's the description

Osram Sylvania - Hyper (Clear) - 65W - Each. H9 filament in a H7 bulb (approx. 80% more light output compared to standard halogen) Same as supplied to Hella (Made in Germany).

should be similar??

wgb113

12-22-2005, 01:49 PM

^^^^^ If they state somewhere that they're 2,100 lumens then they're the same bulb.

I think you'll be happy with them. Both my wife (whom never notices such things) and a co-worker commented on how nice the lighting was on my car after I installed the bulbs...very bright, even, and well defined.

Bill

subieworx

12-22-2005, 03:03 PM

What bulbs do the headlights use???
What bulbs do the fogs use???
What fogs can fit in the stock housing???

...and what bulbs are available for the stock lights that are better than stock???

:)
Fancy checking the manual???? :lol::lol::lol:

Uncle Scotty

12-22-2005, 07:51 PM

Fancy checking the manual???? :lol::lol::lol:

:rolleyes: .....if ida hada a bleeping manual...or the bleeping car for that matter.... at the bleeping time i bleeping posted this, ida bleeping bloody well NOT have bloody bleeping asked..... :furious:

:lol: :o :lol:

neuspeed

12-23-2005, 01:20 AM

Bump for WRX lighting pics

wgb113

01-09-2006, 08:40 PM

Not a Rex but an Impreza nonetheless.

LOWS (Osram Rallye):
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_4_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_6_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_7_full.jpg

wgb113

01-09-2006, 08:42 PM

FOGS (CPI Universal Gold):
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_8_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_9_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_10_full.jpg

wgb113

01-09-2006, 08:44 PM

HIGHS (Toshiba HIR):
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_11_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_12_full.jpg

Stock Parking Lights:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_13_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_14_full.jpg

wht93gted

01-10-2006, 07:05 PM

hey guys, I finally got the Osram H7 65w bulbs from www.suvlights.com.

I've installed them and snapped some pics so you can see the cut-off, brightness, whatever you want :banana:

however, I'm still at work so I promise I'll post them up tonight when I get home.

surfer.tech

01-10-2006, 07:42 PM

wgb113 :can you get a pic of the cutoff?

wgb113

01-10-2006, 08:54 PM

surfer,

I'm a complete camera nOOb so take it easy on me. I messed around with a few settings and took some more pics, including of the cutoff:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_36_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_23_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_24_full.jpg

wgb113

01-10-2006, 08:56 PM

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_27_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_21_full.jpg

And the rear's just for schmidts & giggles:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_28_full.jpg

Bill

jtsimaras

01-11-2006, 08:58 PM

Bill Did you notice a difference in output?

wht93gted

01-12-2006, 01:06 AM

Here's 2 shots of the cutoffs with the Osram 65w H7 bulbs:

http://home.comcast.net/~eflil01/images/internet/cutoff1.jpg

http://home.comcast.net/~eflil01/images/internet/cutoff2.jpg

wgb113

01-12-2006, 09:04 AM

Bill Did you notice a difference in output?

Big time. The quality of our projectors are very good to begin with. The beam pattern is well defined and even. Throwing these "Special Purpose - Off-Road Use Only" Osram Rallye bulbs in there builds upon that very solid foundation in a big way.

I notice more light, further down the road. The cutoff, especially to the sides now, is even better defined, and within the beam pattern everything is brighter.

All of that said, I've not once been flashed by oncoming traffic, a testament to the focus of Subaru's projector optics.

I was pleased with the performance of the Osram SilverStar in my '04 but they can't hold a candle to the lighting I'm getting from their Rallye bulbs in my '06.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

Bill

Hank3

01-12-2006, 09:34 AM

Uncle Scotty

01-12-2006, 12:33 PM

Big time. The quality of our projectors are very good to begin with. The beam pattern is well defined and even. Throwing these "Special Purpose - Off-Road Use Only" Osram Rallye bulbs in there builds upon that very solid foundation in a big way.

I notice more light, further down the road. The cutoff, especially to the sides now, is even better defined, and within the beam pattern everything is brighter.

All of that said, I've not once been flashed by oncoming traffic, a testament to the focus of Subaru's projector optics.

I was pleased with the performance of the Osram SilverStar in my '04 but they can't hold a candle to the lighting I'm getting from their Rallye bulbs in my '06.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED.

Bill

:banana: ....Uncle's bulbs are on their way.... :banana:

wht93gted

01-12-2006, 02:23 PM

Just as an FYI and for those curious - someone posted pics on the HID Forum of HIDs in '06 WRX halogen projectors. Outcome was not that great. Here's the link (http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=15035&highlight=sti+wrx).

I think it may look ok if you use spacers to make sure the bulbs are in the projector housing at the same length?

it just looks out of focus, not an issue with the cutoff plate...needs to be adjusted. i think it can be made to work pretty well...

ATX25RS

01-12-2006, 04:41 PM

just as a suggestion to those taking pics....rest the camer on the hood or mirror and use the self time so that you can hold the camera steady....a lot of the pics are very hard to jusdge because of the blurriness. :D

surfer.tech

01-12-2006, 11:56 PM

thanks for the pics wgb113. looks good.

jtsimaras

01-13-2006, 06:22 PM

I think it may look ok if you use spacers to make sure the bulbs are in the projector housing at the same length?

it just looks out of focus, not an issue with the cutoff plate...needs to be adjusted. i think it can be made to work pretty well...

he actually did use the H7 adapter spacers.

Crap I bought the same set up I will see how it turns out.

ohnoes!

01-13-2006, 10:02 PM

wgb113,

How do the Osram's do in wet weather? I know for sure that some aftermarket bulbs that people put in, don't seem to light the wet pavement very well while driving... which can be a major distraction (it's like as if they don't reflect any light on the road at all, so the lines don't appear too well).

If you could tell me how well they do, I'd gladly appreciate it.

wgb113

01-13-2006, 11:05 PM

ohnoes,

They do REALLY well in torrential rain, lighting up lane markings well ahead so that on a highway you don't feel as if you're "overdriving" your headlights.

The reason so many have the exact opposite effect is that they're sold on the "look of HID" and buy into the marketing hype of bulbs such as PIAA Extreme Whites, Sylvania Superstars, etc. These bulbs have blue coatings that give the white/blueish look of HID's but reduce useable light on the road. This effect is magnified in poor weather conditions.

The Osram Rallye and their version of the SilverStar as well are both CLEAR bulbs that are designed to throw more light further down the road than a standard bulb.

We finally had some favorable weather conditions so I snapped some more pics:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_38_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_39_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_40_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_41_full.jpg

wgb113

01-13-2006, 11:07 PM

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_42_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_43_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_44_full.jpg

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/9/web/2181000-2181999/2181977_45_full.jpg

ohnoes!

01-14-2006, 04:18 AM

Wow... simply wow! Awesome pics, those are the kind I was waiting for. I can almost mistake them for being HID from the looks of those pictures (referring to the second pic posted on reply #93). I can hardly distinguish any hotspots from your photos. Very crisp and sharp looking... which is all I can ask for in a set of bulbs. Foglights look fantastic as well.

And that's good to hear, wgb113. Thanks for the info about these bulbs for poor weather. :disco:

jonney_boy

01-14-2006, 05:09 AM

Wow...

for us guys up in Canada (Vancouver), what would be the best place to get these bulbs... can we pick them up locally?

ATX25RS

01-14-2006, 05:55 AM

great pics

wgb113

01-14-2006, 01:11 PM

x5-992

01-18-2006, 02:27 PM

What kind of bulb is the parking light? I want to replace mine with a blue one. I don't mean to emit blue light, but for the glass to be blue to match my 9005 hi-beam bulb and also I like the blue reflection it creates in the headlight.

Uncle Scotty

01-18-2006, 03:58 PM

I've always bought my bulbs from www.DanielSternLighting.com but they are available elsewhere on the web if you search. The Osram Rallye H7 65W bulbs were out of stock seemingly everywhere for a while. I found a few sets on Ebay but they must've known about the short supply as they were commanding a premium.

DS had them back in stock about a month ago but I don't know if he ships to Canada.

Bill

:banana: :banana:.... just got mine today.... :banana: :banana:

from http://www.danielsternlighting.com/ :D :banana:

...just installed them and went for a cruz = :banana: :devil: :D

wgb113

01-20-2006, 01:22 AM

Unc,

Let us know how you like'em!

Bill

Uncle Scotty

01-20-2006, 01:25 AM

...just installed them and went for a cruz = :banana: :devil: :D

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

:D :banana: :D

....9011HIR's next :devil:

jonney_boy

01-20-2006, 05:32 PM

On a slightly different note, I took a 2.5i out for a day long testdrive today. Driving the car through some mountain roads at night, in all kinds of weather conditions (from sunny day, clear night, wet roads, to pouring rain, white out snow conditions, etc). I must say that stock (even with no fog lights) the new headlight system is one of the best i've ever used.

The low beams are as good as my 03 ts with the fog lamps turned on, and the high beams are just impressive!!

jtsimaras

01-20-2006, 06:50 PM

this is a cutoff beam pattern.

Pretty impressed with the pattern and no funny hot or cold spots on the road with awesome spread. Better than e46 projector in my opinion.

http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddimage.wtdr/wMTE4NDA1ODZzNDEzZGZkMzF5NTQx.jpg

Hank3

01-20-2006, 06:52 PM

Looks pretty good indeed :)

Uncle Scotty

01-21-2006, 01:09 AM

....the '06 lights just plain ROCK, no doubt :D

jtsimaras

01-21-2006, 01:14 AM

The weird thing is did not even have to adjust the headlights after swapping the d2s bulbs in ----I could not believe it ----there is even the left hand cutoff as you can see in the pic.

wrxpunk

01-24-2006, 04:37 PM

does anyone know the life rating of the Osram Rallye 65W bulb campared to the Silverstar 55W bulb? Is it going to burn out quicker due to the higher wattage/temperature?

Uncle Scotty

01-24-2006, 05:13 PM

does anyone know the life rating of the Osram Rallye 65W bulb campared to the Silverstar 55W bulb? Is it going to burn out quicker due to the higher wattage/temperature?

...I don't thik so....I read one place(don't remember where :( ) that they had the same avg. life......and I think it's 'cuz it is actually an H9 bulb on the H7 base.

I'm rather amazed with mine, actually :D :lol: :banana:

photog72

03-12-2006, 06:00 PM

Bill, thanks for the great pictures. I am going to have to do a headlight mod. I had the Mculloch HID kit on my '04. But, after seeing your pics. I think halogen is the way to go.

jtsimaras

03-12-2006, 06:15 PM

Bill, thanks for the great pictures. I am going to have to do a headlight mod. I had the Mculloch HID kit on my '04. But, after seeing your pics. I think halogen is the way to go.

Install some hella ballasts with d2s phillip bulbs and h7 adapters--kicks butt on any holagen upgrade and provides an awesome cutoff and wider light spread than any halogen bulb you can buy.

wgb113

03-12-2006, 09:40 PM

Bill, thanks for the great pictures. I am going to have to do a headlight mod. I had the Mculloch HID kit on my '04. But, after seeing your pics. I think halogen is the way to go

No problem. Coming out to the West Chester End-O'Month Meet??

Bill

photog72

03-13-2006, 03:40 AM

^^^ I can't. I'll be traveling, out on the West Coast.

UndertoW101

03-13-2006, 05:56 PM

Real quick....Can anyone tell me if the 06 front turns are the same bulb as the o5 rear turns?

THanks

SiriX

04-06-2006, 10:59 AM

If anyone hasnt allready realised, the 2006 WRX in Australia comes factory-standard with HID Projectors for Low-Beam, if anyones intrested, i could get a price on what the whole headlight assembly for the AUS WRX is worth, would be pretty much the complete setup, altho the wiring might need to be adapted, but at least it's a factory item, also FYI the AUS WRX does come with Pop-Out Headlight Washers on the front bar :)

Regards,

SiriX

Pallendo

04-06-2006, 03:24 PM

Problem is, you lot drive on the wrong side of the road. :D If anybody wants the correct HID stuff, you would want to buy the USDM STi headlights/ballast. The AUS headlight washers would be cool to get as well. Any pics of these?

If anyone hasnt allready realised, the 2006 WRX in Australia comes factory-standard with HID Projectors for Low-Beam, if anyones intrested, i could get a price on what the whole headlight assembly for the AUS WRX is worth, would be pretty much the complete setup, altho the wiring might need to be adapted, but at least it's a factory item, also FYI the AUS WRX does come with Pop-Out Headlight Washers on the front bar :)

Regards,

SiriX

Pallendo

04-06-2006, 03:25 PM

Install some hella ballasts with d2s phillip bulbs and h7 adapters--kicks butt on any holagen upgrade and provides an awesome cutoff and wider light spread than any halogen bulb you can buy.

No matter how many times you post this, it won't make it legal or correct. Oh, and no matter how many times Pontiac says it, wider isn't always better.

sluflyer06

04-06-2006, 04:00 PM

is the Osram 65W H7's on SUV lights the rallye 2100 lumen model?? I just want to make sure since suvlights does not specifically mention the lumen or state "rallye" because they are almost 7 bucks a piece cheaper there then on daniel stern.

SiriX

04-07-2006, 01:12 AM

Problem is, you lot drive on the wrong side of the road. :D If anybody wants the correct HID stuff, you would want to buy the USDM STi headlights/ballast. The AUS headlight washers would be cool to get as well. Any pics of these?

ROFL!

As for the headlight washers...You can take a look at my car here --> CLICK ME! (http://gallery.statusit.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=10)

There's a few pics there you can see them in... also notice we dont have the orange bit on the lens like you do in the US :) just orange bulbs... which i've not bothered changing yet... but eventualy will.

Regards,

SiriX

Uncle Scotty

04-07-2006, 01:21 AM

Pallendo

04-07-2006, 01:47 PM

ROFL!

As for the headlight washers...You can take a look at my car here --> CLICK ME! (http://gallery.statusit.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=10)

There's a few pics there you can see them in... also notice we dont have the orange bit on the lens like you do in the US :) just orange bulbs... which i've not bothered changing yet... but eventualy will.

Regards,

SiriX

Do they pop-out when you run them? Anybody have video/pictures of them running?

SiriX

04-07-2006, 08:46 PM

They pop out whilst they're on and you wash your front window (ie. when you activate the front window water jets/wiper they also pop out and spray water all over the headlight.

Regards,

SiriX

GDBF

04-10-2006, 02:04 PM

I've just installed HID kit for my 06 WRX two days ago. It's sooo nice!! I installed the 8000K. I hope I don't get pulled over. I'll just say it came factory. Cops won't know the difference I'm sure. :D

sluflyer06

04-10-2006, 03:23 PM

jsut got my Osram's today...just so i get this straight all i need to do to get access to the low beams is to remove the battery and "ram air" scoop correct? then just unscrew the housing and pop the bulb in?

wgb113

04-10-2006, 04:20 PM

^^^^ you got it.

Bill

Uncle Scotty

04-10-2006, 07:29 PM

...do NOT---say again NOT touch the bulb capsule with your fingers...or anything else....bad juju.

sluflyer06

04-10-2006, 09:05 PM

yea I didn't plan on it...well aware of the consequences of getting oil on a Halogen...thanx for the tip...hopefully i can get them in tonight!

sluflyer06

04-11-2006, 02:26 AM

sorry for the doublepost but...

SHAME! None of you guys mentioned a VERY short (but strong) screwdriver is needed to undo the clip on the passenger side low beam...i went out to a lighted area (no garage since i live in a high rise) with every tool you could possibly need including 3 different screwdriver sizes, but nothing that small :(....I finally undid the clip from the top without loosening the screw...all went well in the end though and I enjoy the new bulbs.

Is it worth it to buy the above mentioned high beams? are they noticeably better?

WRX_JUNKi

04-11-2006, 05:35 PM

Is Osram Silverstar the same as Osram Rallye? I can only find Osram Silverstar bulbs.

I got my bulbs finally on Friday and installed them this weekend:

Low-Beam: Osram Rallye H7
High-Beam: Toshiba HIR 9011
Fogs: CPI Universal Gold H3

They Osrams are only +10W over stock and designed for off-road/competitions use only. Since the Subaru halogen projectors are of high quality with good focus they can be used without fear of causing glare to oncoming drivers. They put out 2100 lumens (compared to 1500 for the stock bulbs) and it really shows. Everything within the cutoff is bright and the cutoff seams even better defined.

The Toshiba HIR's had to have the tab modified to fit but that was simple. They also require you to back out the screws on the bulb housing so that you can turn them into proper place during installation. These things are BRIGHT as well, throwing a LOT of light very far down the road. They put out 2500 lumens compared to the the stock bulb's 1700.

The CPI Golds are simply a bulb with a selective yellow tint to the glass.

Install of the highs was the easiest. Lows weren't as bad as on the '04-'05 but space is tight on the driver's side if you leave the battery in. The fogs were the same as on the '04-'05.

I'll try to get some pics and post'em up.

Bill

waktasz

04-11-2006, 05:42 PM

Is Osram Silverstar the same as Osram Rallye? I can only find Osram Silverstar bulbs.

No, they are different. I have the rallye's and HIR high beams as well. They rock.

I love that the box says not for use on public roads :)

ps- how do you aim the 06 headlights? They adjust differently than the 05s and I need to point mine down a bit.

wgb113

04-11-2006, 09:23 PM

ps- how do you aim the 06 headlights? They adjust differently than the 05s and I need to point mine down a bit.

WHY?

The adjustment screw is down and between the high beam and low beam bulb access areas.

Most people forget to aim them back up after installing lowering springs but I've never heard anyone having to aim them lower???

I'm going on 5 months with the Osram Ralye bulbs and have never once been flashed.

Bill

ShawnRS

04-15-2006, 02:58 AM

Just wanted to post that I installed HIR's (high beam) and h7 65w, H9 (Osram) bulbs in my MY06 wagon.

I just came back from a drive in the country (much blackness). Very nice improvement. Very bright but well defined beam. Sorry no camera to take a picture.

I'd compare these to my ff1000's driving lamps I had mounted (fog light position) on my old MY02rs. Very good lighting. I think I'd like to aim my high beams a few degrees higher so I can see further down the road. The beam of like is strong enough. But my low beams are perfect. I have to see if I can do this.

One issue is that when you modify the HIR's bulb (to make it a 9005) make sure everything is filed smooth from where the white paint (cut out) is removed. I didn't on the first one I installed. Now I can't get that bulb out. So this summer (or when it warms up) I'll have to take the back of the headlight assembly apart. Not the fault of the product.

Also I'd like to thank Susquehanna Motorsports (Rallylights.com) for their fast delivery considering I am currently staying in Fort Saint John Canada (northern BC) I recieved the lights in 5 days.

Shawnrs

Uncle Scotty

04-15-2006, 04:10 AM

humara

04-17-2006, 05:42 AM

reading this thread is strangely making me want to trade in the 04.

sluflyer06

04-17-2006, 06:11 AM

that is strange.......but if you like headlights so much (and i'm assuming you don't have an STI since it has HID's) then just put HID's or something in your 04'

(of course you won't have 2.5L LOL)

wrxtotoro

06-01-2006, 08:25 PM

Since Osram Rallye H7 is 65W, would it generate too much heat in the wire or some other electrical parts?

waktasz

06-01-2006, 10:55 PM

I've used them in my Mazda 3 for a year and for about 4 months now in my WRX with no issues.

Uncle Scotty

06-02-2006, 01:11 AM

Since Osram Rallye H7 is 65W, would it generate too much heat in the wire or some other electrical parts?

...been in my car for ~6 months now....no issues

J-Chow

06-02-2006, 03:13 AM

lol, I've been switching from stock - osram silverstars - phillips bluevision.
After reading this, I'm tempted to test out the osram rallyes on my 2.5i. :D

wgb113

06-02-2006, 01:45 PM

...been in my car for ~6 months now....no issues

Same here. I don't think the +10 watts is enough to hurt anything.

Bill

Hazmat

06-02-2006, 09:02 PM

can somebody point to me where to get the Osram Rallye H7 please...
all I found is the silverstar in google... :(

Uncle Scotty

06-02-2006, 09:58 PM

can somebody point to me where to get the Osram Rallye H7 please...
all I found is the silverstar in google... :(

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/products/products.html

"H7 bulbs
These single-filament bulbs are found in the low beams, high beams and fog lamps of many European and Japanese vehicles made since the 1990s. Fun Fact: The H7, introduced in 1993, was the first new halogen headlamp bulb design type-approved to Europe's Regulation 37 in twenty years. It touched off a wave of research and development that saw a dozen new halogen bulb types introduced over the next 15 years.

65W Osram Ultra High Output (2100 lumen, H9 burner on H7 base, race and special-purpose use): $26.40/ea

phoenix_wrx

06-02-2006, 10:31 PM

i just sent him an email for the H7s, is there no other way to place an order on his site?

Uncle Scotty

06-02-2006, 10:39 PM

i just sent him an email for the H7s, is there no other way to place an order on his site?

....not that I'm aware of...

phoenix_wrx

06-02-2006, 10:48 PM

one other thing.. I have lense covers from hot-subaru, the blue covers. looks hot with the wrb.. anyway.. curious to see if you think that i might have overheating with the 65W bulbs...i have no problems with stock now, and dont want to take them off, they do a good job for stone protection and looks.

Are your housings noticable hotter? The film is only a couple of mil thick. I think i will try it anyway, it just may reduce the life of the bulb. Opinions?

Uncle Scotty

06-02-2006, 11:00 PM

ommmjido

07-27-2006, 05:10 AM

Dynobyte

07-28-2006, 02:09 AM

No matter how many times you post this, it won't make it legal or correct. Oh, and no matter how many times Pontiac says it, wider isn't always better.

omg go to bed!! rolleyes
pick your causes man. I don't know how you can talk about modified cars when practically every mod is illegal anyways.

semaj

07-28-2006, 02:23 AM

i was wondering, if anyone has figured out how to change the front turn signals and parking lights? the owners manual doesnt say, and from the way it looks im guessing i'd have to get it from the wheel well?

Yup. Remove wheel, pull back inner liner. Driver's side is a straight shot to the light. Passenger side, need to do snorkelectomy first ;) Piece of cake.

ommmjido

07-28-2006, 11:59 AM

^^^ thx!

semaj

07-28-2006, 03:20 PM

Ok, so after reading this whole thread...and getting excited about my stock projectors :D I ordered some Osram 65W Rallye H7 low beams, and Toshiba HIR 9011 high beams. My question is this:

I see the word "modify" the HIRs to fit the highbeam socket, without getting stuck. What EXACTLY needs to be modified so I don't fudge this up? Anyone with pics? Thanks in advance guys! :D

waktasz

07-28-2006, 03:53 PM

The best thing to do is take out the stock Hi Beams and look at them. Compare them to the HIRs. You will see the mounting tab on one side is a liiiiitle bit different shape. I used a pair of heavy duty scissors to trim the HIR a bit to look like the stock one and it fit just fine.

semaj

07-28-2006, 03:56 PM

Naito

07-28-2006, 06:06 PM

the manual says that you have to remove the battery to get at replacing the bulbs.....is that really necessary? how long's it take to swap bulbs usually?

semaj

07-28-2006, 08:37 PM

the manual says that you have to remove the battery to get at replacing the bulbs.....is that really necessary? how long's it take to swap bulbs usually?

Well, maybe it wont be necessary if you have a REALLY skinny hand...but then the bulb still wont come out of the socket well with the battery there...so I would venture that yes you need to take out the battery. It doesn't take long to switch the bulbs, most of the time involved is the battery removal and replacement anyways.

Uncle Scotty

07-30-2006, 08:50 AM

the manual says that you have to remove the battery to get at replacing the bulbs.....is that really necessary? how long's it take to swap bulbs usually?

...take the battery out..it is MUCH easier and ya have less risk of borking anything

Alan

07-31-2006, 02:25 PM

scooby24

07-31-2006, 02:29 PM

How do you adjust the sumguns? the nose on my car is considerably lower and I can't see jack because my beams are too low.

Is it like the STi's and have that little hex head thingy in the back? I've not looked yet...and its too hot to go outside :-p

alpinev12

07-31-2006, 11:19 PM

OK - so I'm thinking of putting a HID kit into my 2006. Unlike the 2002 there's way less room for the ballasts, and the H7 bulbs have a cover over them. How did folks mount the ballasts, and does one just leave the covers off, or did you manage to run the wires through the housing or what did you do?

And yes, I know about legality. Spare me the rant.

my installer took off the front end (bumper)...said it was a pain in the butt but made the mounting and running of wires and fiddling way easier

Rick B.

UndertoW101

08-01-2006, 04:27 AM

Not to get off topic……….but…..what size bulb is the rear turn signals? I have bought two bulbs that don’t fit so far. The fist ones were too big and the second were dual-filament.

Thanks for the helP

shortyswrx

08-02-2006, 11:54 PM

are these the osram rallye lights you guys are talking about? just saw the h7 with 2100 lumen hope i ordered the right ones. they look pretty good in the pics.

H7 Bulb, 12V, 65W, H9 Burner, 2100 Lumens by Osram,

semaj

08-03-2006, 12:11 AM

Uncle Scotty

08-03-2006, 03:13 AM

That's the ones that I bought :D

^^^^^ me too :D :banana: :D

J-Chow

08-10-2006, 06:40 PM

Alrighty, sorry to poop on this thread, but it's probably related.
Ordered myself a set of tungsram gold 55w h3 foglight bulbs.

I got the foglight bezels out, but does anyone have any pics or advice as to replacing the lightbulbs on the 06' foglights?
Once i remove the bezel, I see the foglight assembly, but how do I actually replace the light bulbs?
Is there a way to remove the assembly?
apologize for trespassing this thread (-_-)

Zalthras

08-10-2006, 07:01 PM

semaj

08-14-2006, 04:02 PM

Finally I installed my Osram Rallye 65W and my Toshiba HIR yesterday! :disco: They are more "yellow-white" than I expected...but I guess that's because I have been looking at ricer blue bulbs for too long! :lol: The light output is amazing! And even on the darkest late night spirited drive, the highbeams project WAAAAY down the road brightly. I am VERY happy! :D

jamesg602

09-02-2006, 03:56 PM

Who did you guys order your bulbs through? :)

wgb113

09-02-2006, 08:58 PM

Google: Daniel Stern Lighting

Bill

wrxnkc

09-02-2006, 09:23 PM

i've been looking for a thread like this.

semaj

09-02-2006, 11:52 PM

Who did you guys order your bulbs through? :)

I got my lights from SUVlights.com and rallylights.com :D

jamesg602

09-25-2006, 01:24 AM

Did anybody disconnect their DRL's after switching to these bulbs listed above?

waktasz

09-25-2006, 01:41 AM

Did anybody disconnect their DRL's after switching to these bulbs listed above?

Yep.5

semaj

09-25-2006, 01:47 AM

Did anybody disconnect their DRL's after switching to these bulbs listed above?

I did that long before buying the bulbs...like the day I brought the car home. :D

jamesg602

09-25-2006, 03:05 AM

Thanks I will be disconnecting mine shortly...

Captain Ned

09-25-2006, 10:45 AM

I did that long before buying the bulbs...like the day I brought the car home. :D
Same method as in the '02 WRX, the module behind the glovebox?

EDIT: NVM, I see that it's changed for 2007 and the standard trick no longer works. Guess I'll have to wait for the first intrepid soul to figure it out.

Pallendo

10-08-2006, 05:58 PM

omg go to bed!! rolleyes
pick your causes man. I don't know how you can talk about modified cars when practically every mod is illegal anyways.

Yes, I do modify cars, but this is one of those things that actually will make your car worse. Lets see, painful glare in the eyes of those driving towards you... That's a good idea.

:rolleyes:

-Peter

semaj

10-08-2006, 06:02 PM

Same method as in the '02 WRX, the module behind the glovebox?

EDIT: NVM, I see that it's changed for 2007 and the standard trick no longer works. Guess I'll have to wait for the first intrepid soul to figure it out.

Weird...the '06 is still behind the glovebox, unplug the module. What did they do to the '07???

Alan

10-09-2006, 01:12 AM

Yes, I do modify cars, but this is one of those things that actually will make your car worse. Lets see, painful glare in the eyes of those driving towards you... That's a good idea.

:rolleyes:

-Peter

Sorry, but you don't know much about what you are commenting on. The 06 cars have very nice projector headlights that work very well with HID capsules in them. The cutoff is nice and sharp and if they are aimed as they should be, the glare to oncoming cars is no worse than any other HID equipped vehicle. We've got an HID equipped BMW and my 06 WRX with aftermarket HID and the cutoff is just as good on the WRX, and from the front it even has less glare than the BMW. And from the driver's point of view the HID lights present quite a bit better road illumination, especially when the roads are wet.

Handsdown

10-09-2006, 01:16 AM

Sorry, but you don't know much about what you are commenting on. The 06 cars have very nice projector headlights that work very well with HID capsules in them. The cutoff is nice and sharp and if they are aimed as they should be, the glare to oncoming cars is no worse than any other HID equipped vehicle. We've got an HID equipped BMW and my 06 WRX with aftermarket HID and the cutoff is just as good on the WRX, and from the front it even has less glare than the BMW. And from the driver's point of view the HID lights present quite a bit better road illumination, especially when the roads are wet.

that depends, there have been posts of crappy kits with rebased bulbs in H7 housings that have a lot of glare apparent in many pictures, as well as other kits and modified adapter D2S setups that work very well.

just because it's a projector doesn't mean it's good for HID... some halogen projectors have holes in the top shield that are fine with halogen but become problematic with hid... there are also fluted lenses that don't deal well with HID and other projectors that are too fuzzy...

i'm glad yours is comparitively good next to your BMW but that's no cause or grounds to go saying that any HID kit is good in any 06.

Pallendo

10-09-2006, 01:44 PM

Sorry, but you don't know much about what you are commenting on. The 06 cars have very nice projector headlights that work very well with HID capsules in them. The cutoff is nice and sharp and if they are aimed as they should be, the glare to oncoming cars is no worse than any other HID equipped vehicle. We've got an HID equipped BMW and my 06 WRX with aftermarket HID and the cutoff is just as good on the WRX, and from the front it even has less glare than the BMW. And from the driver's point of view the HID lights present quite a bit better road illumination, especially when the roads are wet.

Dang, now I have to get rid of my '06, cause I obviously know nothing about it. The '06 projector for the non HID is different from the '06 projector for the HID lights. Get a clue.

I do plan on putting HIDs on my '06 Wagon as soon as I buy the entire HID system. That included the correct projectors, wiring harness, ballasts and aimers.

-Peter

BLACKALICIOUS WRX

10-11-2006, 12:26 PM

my installer took off the front end (bumper)...said it was a pain in the butt but made the mounting and running of wires and fiddling way easier

Rick B.

That's what I did. I ended up taking off the front bumper. My HID's came with a mounting bracket and I ended up mounting it on the frame one next to the windshield wiper resevoir ( in front of it ) and on the opposite side in the same location minus the resevoir. And with the headlight cover I dremeled a hole big enough to fit the wiring through and then capped it with a grommet and weather sealed it with some type of epoxy (I forget the name) so I can still unscrew the cap to get to the bulb. It looks a helluva lot cleaner. I'll post some pics when I get a chance.

Ron

sperry7

10-12-2006, 06:12 PM

Dang, now I have to get rid of my '06, cause I obviously know nothing about it. The '06 projector for the non HID is different from the '06 projector for the HID lights. Get a clue.

I do plan on putting HIDs on my '06 Wagon as soon as I buy the entire HID system. That included the correct projectors, wiring harness, ballasts and aimers.

-Peter

haha, so just because they are different immediately you assume they are instantly incompatible with HID's? I don't think anyone knows exactly what is different, but I would be willing to bet it is something very minor. There have been quite a few very good 06 setups with HID's.... and some bad ones. If you choose the right components, and actually check out the glare/aiming of the lights it is fairly easy to have a great HID system as seen by your friend Alan.

Seamless_Linc

10-14-2006, 03:46 PM

so what would you guys rathere prefer? 5000K or 6000K? any much of a difference?

photog72

10-14-2006, 08:37 PM

4100K or 4300K is my preference. If you had to go w/ your two choices, 5000K.

Seamless_Linc

10-16-2006, 02:23 AM

4100K or 4300K is my preference. If you had to go w/ your two choices, 5000K.

...and that was what i bought....very nice!!!!

semaj

10-16-2006, 02:27 AM

I do plan on putting HIDs on my '06 Wagon as soon as I buy the entire HID system. That included the correct projectors, wiring harness, ballasts and aimers.

-Peter

You don't need to change the projectors. Just get OEM Philips/Hella ballasts, and Philips D2S/D2R bulbs, and the H7 adaptors....and you're set! :D

Seamless_Linc

10-16-2006, 11:03 AM

true that!

jonney_boy

10-16-2006, 11:13 PM

yep... now if only I could find the parts locally for a decent price ;)

TheDon427

01-19-2007, 01:43 AM

I"m still waiting for someone to post side by side photos of light output views of STi HID's, '06 WRX stock projectors, '06 WRX with Osrams, and '06 WRX with ballasts, H7 adapters and HID bulbs.

I'm really curious as to how big of a difference there is in light output and cutoff and whether or not it's as blinding as everyone is claiming. Of course, someone with photo skills should be doing the comparison. No blurry pictures or pictures showing nothing but a light down the road. It needs to be similar environments for the photos. Not a garage, a street, and a parking lot photo. You can't really compare much with that.

Handsdown

01-19-2007, 02:00 AM

it's not the blinding i'm worried about, it's the narrow pattern and the hotspotting from unfocused arc where the focused filament should be.

TheDon427

01-19-2007, 02:44 AM

I'd like to compare all of the aspects of these different upgrades.

LightWerkz

01-19-2007, 12:54 PM

I'd like to compare all of the aspects of these different upgrades.

Let me know if you need anything answered..

bzbuzz

01-19-2007, 01:04 PM

personally, I am very happy with osram 65w low bulbs and tungsram selective yellow fog lights on my 06 wrx.

Thanks! bras!

TheDon427

01-19-2007, 04:07 PM

I'd like to upgrade with the bulbs Uncle Scotty and others have but I'd prefer to have a white or very light blue tint to my beams instead of yellow. I know all about the crappy output of cheap 8000k bulbs and what not. I'm talking about 4300k bulbs in a 2006 WRX compared to stock 2006 STi's lights. I guess the best way to solve this is find members with each of these mods and have a photoshoot to settle this once and for all. Numbers aren't going to be as convincing to people unless you show them pictures so they can see for themselves. But I admit, this thread is packed with useful information and has helped me understand a great deal about proper lighting.

Uncle Scotty

01-21-2007, 01:49 PM

point3

01-23-2007, 03:07 PM

Another question for those '06 peeps with no factory HID's...... how did subaru deal with the daytime running lights?

Is it the low beam at reduced power, a smaller seperate bulb?, high beams at reduced power, or fogs only (like audi's)

I had no HIDs on my 06. That is the same bulb and the same voltage for DRLs. Just disconnect a wire from the relay behind the glove box to get rid of them.

Make sure you disconnected them if you're going with HIDs ! :)

Pallendo

01-23-2007, 04:31 PM

You don't need to change the projectors. Just get OEM Philips/Hella ballasts, and Philips D2S/D2R bulbs, and the H7 adaptors....and you're set! :D

Read above, read Daniel Stern Lighting. The stock housings for halogen bulbs will not be focused correctly, will not have the same beam pattern and will hotspot horribly compared with a proper HID housing. Get a clue.

PARANOID56

01-23-2007, 06:33 PM

Read above, read Daniel Stern Lighting. The stock housings for halogen bulbs will not be focused correctly, will not have the same beam pattern and will hotspot horribly compared with a proper HID housing. Get a clue.

:rolleyes: not true. when you put the HID buld with a h7 adapter ring on it, both bulbs filiments align up exactly. so when you put them in the housing, it lites up very nice. (not as good as a nice HID projector retro) but it works, and gives you good light out put compaired to the stock halogen bulbs.

now, saying all this, as i have this installed, i most likly will do a full retro soon. as i would like to have even better light output.

sube_rex

08-03-2007, 01:14 AM

Uncle Scotty

08-03-2007, 03:05 AM

Has anybody experienced any fuses blowing off or wires melting from using the 65W Osram Rally Hyper and/or HIR bulbs set up? It should have been over a year now that some of you had give this a try and now I'm reviving this thread. My main concern is the extra total 20 wattage that the Osram draws.

I believe this is the ideal and best possible or optimal headlight setup if you don't want to resort to the troubles of HID's for your MY06 Impreza's and WRX halogen projector housing lamps.

....nope.....nothing but great light:D.......and ***knock on wood*** no blown bulbs.

Installing the bulbs WITHOUT TOUCHING THEM WITH YOUR SKIN OR GETTING ANY KIND OF CONTAMINATION ON THE BULB CAPSULE OR THE PLUG SPADES IS A 100% MUST OR YOUR BULB LIFE WILL DECREASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!1
If you use any sort of dielectric grease on the plug(I always do), DO NOT USE MORE THAN ENOUGH TO JUST COAT THE SPADES AND DO NOT GET ANY ON ANY OTHER PART OF THE BULB!!!!!!!!!

Wear CLEAN latex or nitril gloves and when inserting the bulb into the housing TRY NOT TO LET THE BULB CAPSULE TOUCH THE HOUSING!!!!

Changing bulbs during daylight or with good lighting will help you keep the bulbs clean-----this is REAL important, and often overlooked or dismissed as unnecessary :rolleyes:

....and trying to 'clean off' a contaminated bulb may be futile and/or worsen the issue----best to avoid anything touching the bulb.

Open the packaging only when ready to install the bulbs.....and don't 'play' with them :rolleyes:

waktasz

08-03-2007, 12:07 PM

Yep mine are running strong as well. I don't have DRLs though, so they probably don't have as many hours on them as some of you.

sube_rex

08-03-2007, 03:13 PM

I will most likely disconnect my DRL as well and do the mod to my fog light so that I have the option to turn it on whenever I want and use that as my DRL instead and preserve my Osram rally hyper lowbeam bulb. I'll do a search on the fog lamp mod here, or if someone is familiar with the link and can post it here, since it's a related topic, that would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for the install tips Uncle Scotty. Absolutely valuable information you have just contributed. Thanks.

I have been considering HID for my06 impreza halogen projector for over a year now and after much research I think I've found my answer. I came very close to buying the Phillips D2S bulbs with Phillips OEM ballast and the H7 plug and the spacer/H7 bulb adapter, which i think it's probably the best possible setup with the least glare for an HID retrofit to a stock halogen projector headlamp.

However, after considering the cost for this "ideal" HID retrofit setup: approx. $450 (HID bulbs, ballast, wiring harness, etc.), the trouble to install it (removing the whole headlamp assembly to install the ballast underneath it, this will imply removing the front bumper as well to run wires across), tap into the battery for direct current draw, possibly having to deal with the computer detecting a headlight problems because HID draws less current than halogen bulbs, possible if not most likely still have some undesirable glares to other motorists because this setup is not perfect (even with a very careful install, positioning and modifications) and possibly being ticketed by law enforcement (and believe me, pleading ignorance is the worst defense anybody can make).
BTW, the halogen projector lenses on MY06 impreza's are freznel and NOT clear like the one on the STI. I think the purpose of the freznel design of the lense is to spread light more evenly for Halogen bulbs technology and NOT HID bulbs. Hence, even with this "ideal" HID retrofit setup with the Phillips D2S bulbs, u're still going to get some glare and less than ideal cutoff from the freznel lenses (this is just speculations of course, somebody confirm if you've done this).

...Man that is too much trouble for me...
I'll order the Osram rally hyper and just plug it in...carefully of course, and achieve 2100 lumens of output. Now that's a plan!

Also, somebody mention on this thread that you don't want pure white lights anyway like the 5000K HID bulbs because snow and fog will reflect back so intensely that your vision might be affected/impaired if it's prolong night driving, especially where there's a long stretch of snow or fog.

Uncle Scotty

08-04-2007, 01:17 AM

^^^^^^

.....if you have the coin....~$55......DO-DO-DO the 9011HIR's with the 65w Osrams!!!!!!!
It is real easy to make them fit/work....and the output is :eek: :D

They are THE REAL DEAL, no doubt.

jonney_boy

08-19-2007, 05:14 AM

is the "Osram 65W Rallye H7 low beam" recomended in this thread the same as the "H7 Bulb, 12V, 65W, Hyper by Osram, 2100 Lumens" sold by rallylights? It seems that both bulbs are 65w, H7 base and have an output of 2100 lumens.

wgb113

08-19-2007, 08:23 PM

Punkloser6

09-12-2007, 02:24 AM

Low beams= H7
High beams= HB3 (9005)
Fog light= H3

and Osram Silverstars for low beams
http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/product.asp?numRecordPosition=2&P_ID=124&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=89

and phililps for high beams
http://www.powerbulbs.co.uk/product.asp?numRecordPosition=1&P_ID=137&strPageHistory=cat&strKeywords=&SearchFor=&PT_ID=125

-Jason
Good job on helping him. too bad the other ppl here cant mature.

finally someone on these forums who isnt a little child. grow up ppl stop being jerks to other ppl. forums r for HELP. not for deuchbags. treat ppl with respect. not like crap.

Uncle Scotty

09-12-2007, 08:56 AM

Good job on helping him. too bad the other ppl here cant mature.

finally someone on these forums who isnt a little child. grow up ppl stop being jerks to other ppl. forums r for HELP. not for deuchbags. treat ppl with respect. not like crap.

ya GOTTA BE KIDDING :rolleyes:

----it is ALL in here already

Pallendo

09-23-2007, 07:59 PM

bzbuzz

02-28-2008, 12:47 PM

so i hear upgrading wiring harness for headlight gives us better output. Anybody w/ 06 running it? it's very interesting..

BlueSubeDude

02-28-2008, 02:36 PM

My guess is some of the other years would benefit as well because subaru's use a ground switched system which means the switch interrupts the ground side. Since the factory uses high resistance circuitry in the switch itself, you'll see some voltage on the ground side which affects light output.

I've read about some folks grounding the negative side of the headlights (bypassing the factory switch on the ground) to increase light output. The headlights should still work because there's a relay on the positive side. I'm just not sure for which years this would work. I think Uncle Scotty has done this.

bzbuzz

02-28-2008, 04:20 PM

BlueSubeDude

02-28-2008, 06:08 PM

well that doesn't make sense to me tho...if you ground the headlight bypassing the switch then it would be always connected and on. I thought subaru's gound switched system is that vcc is always connected and it just switch the ground to turn on the headlights.

I've read that others have done it, so it's a possibility.

It didn't make quite make sense to me either at first, but I've also read somewhere on here that the vcc side has a relay(maybe due to the DRL circuitry :confused:), which would make it possible to directly ground the headlamps and still have switching capability.

I'm personally going to upgrade my harness (I plan on making mine since it seems like a good project) :D

photog72

02-28-2008, 06:11 PM

Is there an FAQ or how to as to how to make the stock foglights work on their own or with just the parking lights on?

bzbuzz

11-10-2008, 12:38 PM

Osram 65W Rallye H7 is on sale! @ candlepower inc~~~ weee~

Uncle Scotty

11-11-2008, 02:16 AM

Osram 65W Rallye H7 is on sale! @ candlepower inc~~~ weee~

and easily one of the better 'bang for the buck' mods ive done on my 06

wrxSIN

11-11-2008, 02:53 AM

i was just thinking about this too. link for the lowbeams in an 07 wrx head lamp?

edit--think i found em here:
http://store.candlepower.com/osraulhiouh7.html
and are these the same as
http://www.suvlights.com/product_info.php?products_id=164

are the osrams basically OEM replacements like sylvania silver stars(IE plug and play)? also, did many of you guys disconnect your DRLs or did you guys leave them plugged in?

Thanks in advanced!

1stockwrx

11-12-2008, 12:44 PM

please recommend me a good low beam bulbs,im looking for something white and slight bluish..which ones to get?i dont like to disable my drl

il probably do:
9000 series(intense white)-highbeams
H3 Ion crystal-fogs

thanks in advance

waktasz

11-12-2008, 12:46 PM

If you want to get bulbs that actually light the road better, and don't just look nice, get the Rallye 65w from Osram.

1stockwrx

11-12-2008, 12:51 PM

so im looking for H7 series?thanks sir!

wrxSIN

11-12-2008, 01:13 PM

so im looking for H7 series?thanks sir!

get the same one i got from candle power. click on the link in my past post.

1stockwrx

11-12-2008, 01:31 PM

get the same one i got from candle power. click on the link in my past post.
thanks bro!are my choices plug and play?:lol:

im serious about the plug and play question,just in case i confused you a bit

wrxSIN

11-12-2008, 11:22 PM

yes, they should be. i bought them expecting them to be plug and play lol.

http://store.candlepower.com/osraulhiouh7.html

1stockwrx

11-12-2008, 11:46 PM

yes, they should be. i bought them expecting them to be plug and play lol.

http://store.candlepower.com/osraulhiouh7.html
let me know asap once you installed them,post some pics!thanks bro

RexDriverNY

11-13-2008, 12:26 AM

just bought a pair, kudos on the tip off, will post up some pics when installed.

Handsdown

11-13-2008, 01:17 AM

i strongly recommend shutting the trap door on the cutoff shield if you use rallye and DEFINITELY if you use HIDs.

read my posts in the HID faq thread as to why HIDs don't work like they should in these lights.

but shutting the trap door will reduce glare above cutoff significantly.

wrxSIN

11-13-2008, 01:23 AM

Handsdown

11-13-2008, 01:27 AM

there's a plate that is basically riveted... let me see if i can find a picture.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3287/3026115237_130c4d4167_o.jpg

it's the shinier part of metal that is just barely showing behind the plastic lens holder, it's a different piece of metal from the flat cutoff shield.

you can't see the angled side of the metal piece, but you can see the part that is attached to the cutoff shield.

it's angled to reflect light back out above cutoff through the lens and illuminate overhead signs.

bending it back flat will improve fog performance, decrease glare, and you'll still be able to see road signs just about the same.

it's hard to see in the picture but it's obsurdly obvious if you take the lens holder off the front.

wrxSIN

11-13-2008, 01:38 AM

^^^^^^^ thanks for the info!!

aleutdude

11-13-2008, 03:22 AM

After reading the entire thread and not finding it... Has anybody tried overwattage bulbs in the fog-lights?

This one is the one I am looking at...

PHILIPS/ NARVA Rally Gold- (All Weather/Yellowish)- 85W- H3

http://www.suvlights.com/product_info.php?products_id=149

I am ready to pull the trigger on a large order, and was just wanting to know if anybody has tried these lights in the fogs. (Don't want to melt anything...)
I can speak from experience that high wattage h7 bulbs and the stock low beam projectors = melted connectors. I bought some bargain blue h7s which said 55watts on the box,put them in till I could save enough for good bulbs or HID. Thinking I got the deal of the century due to the HUGE increase in output after installing these I left them in and thought nothing of it till one side started to flicker after about a month. I pulled it out and was shocked that my connector had gone soft and the wires looked like they got fairly hot. Confused,I looked at the bulb base and,sure enough it read 100watts! No wonder I had great light-at least for a little while. I have no reason to think the fogs would react any different. My poor connectors are holding up but they will be replaced this spring,if not sooner!

wrxSIN

11-13-2008, 03:47 AM

I can speak from experience that high wattage h7 bulbs and the stock low beam projectors = melted connectors. I bought some bargain blue h7s which said 55watts on the box,put them in till I could save enough for good bulbs or HID. Thinking I got the deal of the century due to the HUGE increase in output after installing these I left them in and thought nothing of it till one side started to flicker after about a month. I pulled it out and was shocked that my connector had gone soft and the wires looked like they got fairly hot. Confused,I looked at the bulb base and,sure enough it read 100watts! No wonder I had great light-at least for a little while. I have no reason to think the fogs would react any different. My poor connectors are holding up but they will be replaced this spring,if not sooner!

teh rallyE's are *10 more watts than stock bulbs*quoted

do you forsee any problems there?

MattPersman

11-13-2008, 11:59 PM

just got the Osrams from candlepower on sale, they arrived today, fast service, good price

thunder_lizard_1976

11-14-2008, 01:02 AM

Stupid question since we're in the realm of upgrades to the stock lights; The stock 06-07 fogs are H3, 55W..has anyone pondered using the 100W halogens, and simply upgrading the fuse(s)? (I.E., would this end in massive fail?)

(Nevermind.. read back a few posts.. saw the train coming... head-on...)

Uncle Scotty

11-14-2008, 09:52 AM

teh rallyE's are *10 more watts than stock bulbs*quoted

do you forsee any problems there?

none....stop worryin

wrxSIN

11-14-2008, 12:14 PM

none....stop worryin

lol i probably will after i pick them up. i just keep thinking about them and anxious to put them on.

Uncle Scotty

11-15-2008, 02:16 PM

and if you 06-07 guys want the BEST combo out there

those 65w Osrams and the 9011HIR combo is, SHOCKING just SHOCKING :eek:

no doubt

bzbuzz

11-15-2008, 10:02 PM

Daniel Stern just told me that Tungsram dicontined their H3 55w selective yellows.
sad. =(

Captain Ned

11-16-2008, 11:21 PM

and if you 06-07 guys want the BEST combo out there

those 65w Osrams and the 9011HIR combo is, SHOCKING just SHOCKING :eek:

no doubt
Agreed. I still wish I could throw farther with the Osram low beams (stop yapping at me, DS ;)), but when I have the space to hit the giggle switch and fire up the HIRs the amount of light I throw is just astounding.

Since I've killed 2 deer at night in the last 3 years, I'm a bit sensitive as to how far I can throw low-beam light down the road. I've killed both in situations where I couldn't run high-beams (oncoming traffic).

Uncle Scotty

11-17-2008, 10:31 AM

Agreed. I still wish I could throw farther with the Osram low beams (stop yapping at me, DS ;)), but when I have the space to hit the giggle switch and fire up the HIRs the amount of light I throw is just astounding.

Since I've killed 2 deer at night in the last 3 years, I'm a bit sensitive as to how far I can throw low-beam light down the road. I've killed both in situations where I couldn't run high-beams (oncoming traffic).

look at the battery....straight down....on the inboard vertical frame face just below and foreward of the battery tray is a ground....there is a similar one on the other side of the car....

make a couple good jumpers and wire these to the NEG of the battery :banana:

bzbuzz

11-17-2008, 06:40 PM

btw fyi,

in order to see big improvements of osram 65w, you need to upgrade your wireing harness to use full voltage out of battery.
with stock wire harness, I didn't feel big change with osram.

RexDriverNY

11-19-2008, 04:05 PM

Pardon the grainy cell phone photos, but you can see a difference in a lit garage.

BEFORE
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w147/gg1279/before1.jpg

AFTER
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w147/gg1279/after1.jpg

Uncle Scotty

11-19-2008, 04:36 PM

btw fyi,

in order to see big improvements of osram 65w, you need to upgrade your wireing harness to use full voltage out of battery.
with stock wire harness, I didn't feel big change with osram.

Pardon the grainy cell phone photos, but you can see a difference in a lit garage.

BEFORE
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w147/gg1279/before1.jpg

AFTER
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w147/gg1279/after1.jpg

I had good results as seen above....better after making some better ground straps

Handsdown

11-21-2008, 04:32 PM

notice how much glare is increasing above cutoff...

here's the daniel stern plate mod.

i strongly recommend doing this if you:

1. drive through fog

2. use any kind of brighter lightsource, be it HID or H9 burners or overwattage bulbs.

these are the lights:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/3048785738_80bb6aabc9.jpg

here are the cutoff shields:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3037/3047953789_8d38e8c7fe.jpg

here are tenacious d behind the lens:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/3048792822_cb995fb5be.jpg

here are the plates daniel stern says to bend back:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3036/3048796118_03da63f9f9.jpg

here is what they look like when you bend them back with your hands:
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3242/3048797148_fa2d25c286.jpg

Geeoff

12-05-2008, 04:35 PM

I figured I would bump this thread with another positive review. I ordered the Osram 65w and the 9011HIR's from SUVlights a few weeks ago.

After driving with them for a while I must say I am very satisfied with the Osrams, and the HIR's are crazy bright. I wish I had bought them a while ago.

Handsdown

12-05-2008, 06:43 PM

i should have bought osram bulbs but instead i bought a 55w h7 hid kit to test, prove how bad the beam pattern is, and then use as high beams in my ebay lights.

i'm very on the fence about the osrams. i'm not convinced that the filament is properly positioned since they are just rebased H9's, and even if they line up optically they're still in a housing that was designed for a substantially less amount of intensity.

in my experience the 06 lights have a barely acceptable amount of glare just from the factory with LL h7's. more light is more light, there's a certain amount that is going to increase no matter what.

i definitely suggest making sure your cutoff shield doesn't let any light through above cutoff, doing the above mod, even if you just have the osrams.