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whoaslowdown 11-14-2005, 08:03 PM Anyone got to see the president today after the planed landed and elmendorf? Just curious of the thought..
http://www.ktuu.com/cms/templates/master.asp?articleid=1923&zoneid=1
read that and was wondering.
Spooln4 11-14-2005, 08:32 PM i did. i had to work his plane. he is alot shorter in person.
he is about to go back out in about an hour on his way to japan.
im at work right now waiting on him to come back to the plane
cooparu 11-14-2005, 08:39 PM Place banana peels on the floors where the camera crews will see him. And Segways.
Doesn't the president stop in at least once a year? Kinda cool.
GeorgeRex 11-14-2005, 08:41 PM i did. i had to work his plane. he is alot shorter in person.
he is about to go back out in about an hour on his way to japan.
im at work right now waiting on him to come back to the plane
Do you realize this kind of information is highly protected and is in fact classified? I suggest that you not post times or places in the future here or anywhere else.
cooparu 11-14-2005, 08:43 PM Um, the media kind of beat him to it. :rolleyes:
JordyB 11-14-2005, 09:03 PM OH NOS!!!
Ktuu: "Anchorage, Alaska - Air Force One landed at Elmendorf Air Force Base at about 2:20 p.m. President Bush and first lady Laura Bush are making a short stop at the base before heading to Kyoto, Japan."
GeorgeRex 11-14-2005, 09:05 PM Um, the media kind of beat him to it. :rolleyes:
Not quite, they don't know arrivals and departures usually. I am not talking about the obvious stuff. The point is, just be careful what you post in a public forum.
JordyB 11-14-2005, 09:10 PM http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/7205767p-7117512c.html
whoaslowdown 11-14-2005, 10:16 PM Hah must be kind of interesting in meeting or seeing him in person...well that what I always thought.
Mavrik 11-14-2005, 10:36 PM *looks around*
someone better delete his post before the nasioc monitoring terrorists see this.
cool you got to meet him man. :)
00Maddog 11-14-2005, 11:25 PM yeah now they know he's short!!!! aaaa
:D
wish i could see/meet him. not holding my breath though.
SparkysJDMSpeedWagon 11-14-2005, 11:54 PM Yeah, I avoided that part of base like the plague today. I'm kinda with GeorgeRex, kinda didn't need to know his departure time, just for future reference or whatever.
edo2000 11-15-2005, 12:13 AM Well, the TV stations with film crews all were informed about and invited to A.F. 1's landing and (I assume) takeoff, to the minute. Every pilot who needed to get within 30 miles of Elemendorf AFB today (including me) also had a pretty close idea of the timetable, since we had to jump through some different air traffic control hoops for a while. I'm thinking our little forum is probably not guilty of any subversive acts.
Spooln4 11-15-2005, 12:30 AM Do you realize this kind of information is highly protected and is in fact classified? I suggest that you not post times or places in the future here or anywhere else.
i hope this guy isnt serious :rolleyes: like someone already said....ITS ALL OVER THE DAMN NEWS!!!
yeah and good luck gettin to the man...can we say bulletholes all over you if you even look suspicious or out of place.
eatwrx 11-15-2005, 01:09 AM I'm kinda with GeorgeRex, kinda didn't need to know his departure time, just for future reference or whatever.
I'm with Sparky...not that someone is going to keep a vote.
I wonder if Spooln4 told the president at his departure, "thanks for visiting ... is there anymore specific intel that wasn't released in the news that I can post on NASIOC?" :lol:
But what do I know, I'm only a civilian.
fc6666 11-15-2005, 03:09 AM could have seen w, with some dog and pony show detail thingy, but i'd rather have a four day.
and i voted for Nader ;)
00Maddog 11-15-2005, 03:12 AM ^^^ hahaha rofl
fc6666 11-15-2005, 03:48 AM oh....i wanted to grow out a beard too, that i now have to shave off by tomorrow :mad:
meet the free worlds most powerful man.......or have a four day, drink and grow facial hair, and forget that i was in the military..... :disco:
xplcitcustmz 11-15-2005, 03:54 AM Not quite, they don't know arrivals and departures usually. I am not talking about the obvious stuff. The point is, just be careful what you post in a public forum.
This guy= what goes in a tool box??
fc6666 11-15-2005, 03:57 AM :rolleyes:
ECHELON is your friend :p
f3rr3t 11-15-2005, 04:04 AM North
Americans
Spilling
Information
Online
Cell
fc6666 11-15-2005, 04:12 AM :lol:
I watch too much history channel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECHELON
Spooln4 11-15-2005, 04:23 AM I wonder if Spooln4 told the president at his departure, "thanks for visiting ... is there anymore specific intel that wasn't released in the news that I can post on NASIOC?" :lol:
But what do I know, I'm only a civilian.
yeah i guess thats why you have no clue. anyways this is kinda pissin me off, well where do i start. oh yes i do this for a LIVING. i see all kinds of people...Canadian Prime minister...Secretary of Defense...just to name a few, and this so called "intel" is not that at all. Its media.
I guess being cilvilian or not, maybe you guys dont read the paper. George Bush came and stopped here today to give a speech to the military members and spouses on this base. his stop here was the first leg of a flight to japan and korea.
THE WHOLE REASON for this was to improve his image of the war on terrorism to the public eye. It was a motivational speach for everyone.
If you had been there you would have seen ALL the other people civilian or military outside the fences taking pictures and seeing THE MAN!
my security clearence is well above most so believe me if this was classified my name would not even be on this thread.
so please if you have no idea what you are talking about or cant read a newspaper, dont be tool and try and flame somebody who does or can at that matter.
so i yeah i saw the president today and was 30 feet from him, can you say you've done that. :D
fc6666 11-15-2005, 04:29 AM uh oh...the g-man is here , j/k ;)
f3rr3t 11-15-2005, 04:37 AM I hear you man. I think ppl are just having fun.
btw, I would keep the 30 feet away thing on the DL. It's G.W.B for god sakes! :lol:
...I jokes I jokes, I kid I kid -EM
fc6666 11-15-2005, 04:41 AM i dont think the SS CAT would let u get any closer?
Spooln4 11-15-2005, 05:50 AM i dont think the SS CAT would let u get any closer?
well surprisingly enough..mr.president kinda does his own thing on the ground. maybe because it was a military installation. ive never seen him anywhere else.
eatwrx 11-15-2005, 12:31 PM Over the years, I've met many people in the military with various security clearances, etc. When special visitors visit (even if it's public information), they keep quite tight lipped about their activities, whether they are involved or not. After the visitor has been there, then they usually don't say much, even if the info went public. And I respect them for that (their silence on the matters). Sparky's post was about as normal for this kind of thing.
Everyone has their job to do. At first, I had thought your post was a bunch of macho bravado, example = "... i had to work his plane.... he is about to go back out in about an hour on his way to japan. im at work right now waiting on him to come back to the plane". Later you state "...oh yes i do this for a LIVING. i see all kinds of people...Canadian Prime minister...Secretary of Defense...just to name a few, and this so called "intel" is not that at all. Its media....my security clearence is well above most so believe me if this was classified my name would not even be on this thread..."
So from my civilian point of view, you're response, "so i yeah i saw the president today and was 30 feet from him" is more of the example of what I have come to expect from others in the military and the other details just seemed to be more than I would've expected of someone so close to the situation.
Go ahead and share this thread with your work underlings, associates, and superiors so you all can laugh about my inability to read the paper. I'm sure they would find it equally amuzing. :lol:
00Maddog 11-15-2005, 12:44 PM i read the paper but only to keep up on when avian flu is going to kill us all! :D
prometheum 11-15-2005, 01:04 PM i was there, ir involved a lot of waiting
Spooln4 11-15-2005, 01:07 PM Over the years, I've met many people in the military with various security clearances, etc. When special visitors visit (even if it's public information), they keep quite tight lipped about their activities, whether they are involved or not. After the visitor has been there, then they usually don't say much, even if the info went public. And I respect them for that (their silence on the matters). Sparky's post was about as normal for this kind of thing.
Everyone has their job to do. At first, I had thought your post was a bunch of macho bravado, example = "... i had to work his plane.... he is about to go back out in about an hour on his way to japan. im at work right now waiting on him to come back to the plane". Later you state "...oh yes i do this for a LIVING. i see all kinds of people...Canadian Prime minister...Secretary of Defense...just to name a few, and this so called "intel" is not that at all. Its media....my security clearence is well above most so believe me if this was classified my name would not even be on this thread..."
So from my civilian point of view, you're response, "so i yeah i saw the president today and was 30 feet from him" is more of the example of what I have come to expect from others in the military and the other details just seemed to be more than I would've expected of someone so close to the situation.
Go ahead and share this thread with your work underlings, associates, and superiors so you all can laugh about my inability to read the paper. I'm sure they would find it equally amuzing. :lol:
well then dont respect my actions.... all i am saying is that this is my F'n job and have been doing it for a while. I know what i can and cant say and all i did was just repeat what the media covered. Nothing more...nothing less. so go ahead and think that what i did was a breach of national security :lol:
funny as it is everyone at work got a kick out of your post :rolleyes:
f3rr3t 11-15-2005, 02:46 PM Can't we all just get along?
...haters :lol:
GeorgeRex 11-15-2005, 05:24 PM yeah i guess thats why you have no clue. anyways this is kinda pissin me off, well where do i start. oh yes i do this for a LIVING. i see all kinds of people...Canadian Prime minister...Secretary of Defense...just to name a few, and this so called "intel" is not that at all. Its media.
I guess being cilvilian or not, maybe you guys dont read the paper. George Bush came and stopped here today to give a speech to the military members and spouses on this base. his stop here was the first leg of a flight to japan and korea.
THE WHOLE REASON for this was to improve his image of the war on terrorism to the public eye. It was a motivational speach for everyone.
If you had been there you would have seen ALL the other people civilian or military outside the fences taking pictures and seeing THE MAN!
my security clearence is well above most so believe me if this was classified my name would not even be on this thread.
so please if you have no idea what you are talking about or cant read a newspaper, dont be tool and try and flame somebody who does or can at that matter.
so i yeah i saw the president today and was 30 feet from him, can you say you've done that. :D
You disclosed information that you should not have - be a man/woman and say sorry or oops. Don't be a blowhard - hubris has brought down many people like you. You are not impressing me with your credentials or your clearances - can you guess why? Ask someone on HMX1 what the classification of POTUS' schedule is.
02redwagone 11-15-2005, 05:43 PM I saw this happen in a movie once.
cooparu 11-15-2005, 07:25 PM Spooln4's initial post didn't expose some secret info. If he'd given details, I'd be right there with you, tisking away.
He said the pres is here, and he's short, and he's leaving in an approximate time to go to a non-secret location. Sure, the prudent thing would be to not say anything, other than maybe he saw the president. But it's not like he gave a specific time, runway, flightpath, etc.
Leaving in about an hour isn't news here. Anchorage is a fueling stop. It's very brief. It's not like he's going downtown with his wife to pick up some moose poop earrings and stuffed penguins. He was on base, a secure facility?
I see the concern here, but I think for this instance perhaps it's been blown a little out of proportion. And now the military e-muscles are rippling.
whoaslowdown 11-15-2005, 08:27 PM oh man, hah what have I done. hah never thought I would start arguments and such. But awesome that you meet some high ranking people. I should join the military to see all this action =P.
thetomstudley 11-16-2005, 12:49 AM saw him i was fairly close, didnt get to shake his hand though
he IS alot shorter in person. It was funny when the general introduced him.. he said chief of staff instead of commander in cheif and W made fun of him for it :lol:
Spooln4 11-16-2005, 01:19 AM Spooln4's initial post didn't expose some secret info. If he'd given details, I'd be right there with you, tisking away.
He said the pres is here, and he's short, and he's leaving in an approximate time to go to a non-secret location. Sure, the prudent thing would be to not say anything, other than maybe he saw the president. But it's not like he gave a specific time, runway, flightpath, etc.
Leaving in about an hour isn't news here. Anchorage is a fueling stop. It's very brief. It's not like he's going downtown with his wife to pick up some moose poop earrings and stuffed penguins. He was on base, a secure facility?
I see the concern here, but I think for this instance perhaps it's been blown a little out of proportion. And now the military e-muscles are rippling.
thanks man, thats all i was tryin to get across. im not tryin to impress anybody with my job because its exactly that....a JOB. so thanks for seein trough all the bull**** and actually READING my post. No blowhard here :rolleyes: anyways im done with this thread. :banana:
WRXnFX 11-16-2005, 03:47 AM I'm sure the terrorists didn't notice the flying billboard landing at Elmendorf either. I'm sure they have enough brains to know that it'll have to take-off.
I think it's weird when people get bent out of shape about information that's in the paper.
Winslow
eatwrx 11-16-2005, 02:10 PM Please forgive me if I don't know the lingo or proper protocol.
I heard this story where there was this weapons of mass destruction team. Part of the crew was down in the hot zone (full suits, collecting samples) while the officer that was was supposed to be monitoring the instruments was online and looking up "How to pick up MILF's."
Needless to say, the rest of the team didn't find it too funny or less than serious.
Mavrik 11-16-2005, 02:46 PM Why? because he didn't hook them up with some MILFs to? :D
in all seriousness though... that officer should have been punished for that. His milf searching could have cost the team their lives...
OrionAK 11-16-2005, 11:06 PM I think it's weird when people get bent out of shape about information that's in the paper.
I honestly don't know, so I'm seriously asking--was this stuff in the paper before the visit, or after it was said and done? During the fact and after the fact are two different things (IF anything "usable" was truly said).
I'm not supporting either side, but I am one that is an "err on the side of caution" kinda guy. :)
oh man, hah what have I done. hah never thought I would start arguments and such.
Dang, you're such a JERK! :lol:
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