what do you guys think, I mean I cant do it now but I have been thinking about it alot and down the road I would have the funds for it. An 05 STI 6spd in and 05 WRX what would that involve and the cost :( ? and maby go all the way with the STI motor? Has anyone done this? But that would be one sweet sleeper :devil: and plz dont say go and buy an STI :rolleyes:

Thanks Drew

I think it would be cheaper to buy an STI and sleerpize it. If you get an 06 or earlyer youd only have to swap out the trunk with a WRX or RS, the rear roof wing you probably wont want to take off

you can do the tranny + bits for 3-4 grand.

you can do the tranny + bits for 3-4 grand.

Some guy did it for $3,000. Not sure if was an 05

you can do the tranny + bits for 3-4 grand.

and you can get a brand new STi shortblock for $1400. :eek:

That sounds good, maby get the STi block out of a wreck if its ok? but maby in a year or two I know thats long but I guess I will start saveing now lol

That sounds good, maby get the STi block out of a wreck if its ok? but maby in a year or two I know thats long but I guess I will start saveing now lol

what exactly are your plans for the car? Do you just want to make it faster than a stock STi? If so, you can do that with your WRX engine with not too much money. Less than 2 grand, and you will blow them away. Even cheaper than that if you do used parts.

You can do a downpipe,uppipe,cat-back, and a good reflash/dyno tune and you can beat a stock STi.

In About two years I want to be at 450+ hp and not have to worry that much about it thanks for all the info to everyone.

Dont do it!!!

why? have you in the past and had something go wrong?

This is why look at the $$$$$$$$$$ of the thing : http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/ADR04STi/stitranny.jpgwww.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/1_5_49_122/products_id/7113 (http://http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y95/ADR04STi/stitranny.jpg)

This is why look at the $$$$$$$$$$ of the thing : www.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/1_5_49_122/products_id/7113 (http://www.vividracing.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/1_5_49_122/products_id/7113)
Eh, nobody respects vivid, and those prices are ridiculous anyway. Can be done for less, from better companies.

well I guess I wouldent buy it from there

Go with RA gear set or PPG gear set. The PPG gear set is twice the cost of the RA gear set, but in my opinion they are better gears than the STi gears. DCCA is nice and all, and so is the 6spd box, but a PPG gear set with 1st and 2nd helical cut and 2-5 standard, all synchromesh. I have heard nothing but good things about. Everyone I've spoken with who has a set says that shifts become very positive and almost fall into place. Rev matching into any gear is smooth as butter.

How much less, from who + labor. Whats the purpose behind the swap? Just to have a 6spd for bling? C'Mon.

Do not buy anything from Vivid, enough said...

Check around if you are serious about doing this, but really, it makes no sense to do this when you could save a lot of $$$ and just buy a used 2005 STi...

Martin

one word describes vivid


SCAMMERS!!!!

Bling :lol: ....naw I just want something that can handel 450+hp and not destroy it when i want to have fun. It would also be sweet to pull up in a WRX but have that STi 6spd and block as a littel suprise :devil: for the people who think o ya another WRX.

Bling :lol: ....naw I just want something that can handel 450+hp and not destroy it when i want to have fun. It would also be sweet to pull up in a WRX but have that STi 6spd and block as a littel suprise :devil: for the people who think o ya another WRX.I pull up in a real STi and people think, "o yeah another Civic." :confused:

Java Black Pearl isn't an option for 05. +1 on you should have gotten an STi to start out with. PPG gears are great, but it is less money to get a STi 6sp, plus you don't have to worry about borking your case like you would with the 5sp.

An STI six speed cost about 5,000 installed as i've found out through researching, so if you have the money do it. I believe godspeed will do it for 5,000 but that does not include the dccd.

I pull up in a real STi and people think, "o yeah another Civic." :confused:

This is very true. My dad said to me the other day, "so, let me get this straight. You could have bought a GTO, Boxster, or a C5 Vette, and you bought this thing? Geez, looks like a Honda with a bodykit on it."

I was like, thanks Dad, really.

Over here in Holland some people just bought 5 or 6 6speed boxes for about 1500 bucks each.

Its getting a popular mod over here, because more and more people are having 350 BHP+ and a lot of torque, and the torque is to much for the 5 speed boxes, so instead of getting a new 5 speed they all go 6 speed,

And whatever U do dont go with strenghtened gears in a stock 5 speed case, cause as u will find out, and loads over here in Europa have found out that the gearboxcasing itself will bend/flex and eventually break.

Sorry to hijack but I heard it is not possible to do a 6 speed swap into a wagon....is that true???

Sorry to hijack but I heard it is not possible to do a 6 speed swap into a wagon....is that true???That's very not true.

One reason not to sell it and get the STi is that a lot of insurance companies are raping people with STis. Enough so, that if you plan on keeping your WRX for a while, the difference in insurance money could probably pay for the new tranny.

Another reason not to get a STi car isnt payed for and the R.A.P.E. the cost differances will be put on ya's.



Get the 6speed you wont halve to worry nearly at all about breaking anything in it.

Gruupe-s also sells them pretty cheap.
Theres also a vendor that can do the whole swap in a hour plus they have good prices cant recall who though. :confused:




Edit Get a vendor that will buy your 5-speed when you buy the 6Speed. $$$

Since you already have the WRX, and STI insurance can be retarded, and you will get hosed on depreciation moving from the WRX you are still paying for to an STI now, why NOT do it if you have the cash? You may just want to upgrade the clutch and gears in the WRX instead, though.

Its going to cost you major bucks to do the transmision swap unless you get really lucky finding the parts. It will cost 7000 - 8000 dollars for a complete kit with all the bits. Then you have the cost of the engine work which is not cheep either.

Get a vendor that will buy your 5-speed when you buy the 6Speed or anyone that would cut down on the cost sweet :banana: mybay by not that much though. well I have along time befor I plan on doing this so Like I said I will start saving now :lol: I think that the price of an 05 STi 6SPD will go down in a year or two also, never know maby there will be something better then. Well i guess thats it thanks for all the imput :banana:

Thanks Drew

Yoda says, "Changing from a 5 speed to a 6 speed will not an STi make out of a WRX"... "A stout transmission it will give you, yes, but not an STi will you get"... :)

Actually, the best thing that you can do is buy a wrecked STi from someone for $6,000 because you get the tranny, and everything else. Then do a complete swap and continue to pay your current insurance rates.

what do you guys think, I mean I cant do it now but I have been thinking about it alot and down the road I would have the funds for it. An 05 STI 6spd in and 05 WRX what would that involve and the cost :( ? and maby go all the way with the STI motor? Has anyone done this? But that would be one sweet sleeper :devil: and plz dont say go and buy an STI :rolleyes:

Thanks Drew

If you're bound and determined to do it, it might be better to start with an '06 STi tranny b/c it has the same 1.1:1 step-down (for lack of the accurate term that escapes me) center-diff as your WRX.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=783007&highlight=2006+STI

'04 and '05 STi's had a 1:1 center-diff.

What does this mean?.... it means that you wouldn't necessarily have to replace your rear-end or swap a 3.90:1 ring/pinion in (unless of course you're after the beefy stuff anyway... which -most- people considering this swap are). WRX's have a 3.90 final-drive ratio, but it's arrived at by using a 1.1:1 center-diff and a 3.545:1 ring gear in the rear (with a 3.90:1 in the front).

As to the logistics of the electronics and so on?.. Jebus only knows... I'm sure it'd be a ton of work.

Just throwing it out there is all. I would hasten to add that doing this swap will be prohibitively expensive no matter what in almost every case unless you're extremely lucky/resourceful/blessed (and some people are :) )

make sure you build a new motor to go with the swap while youre at it.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=887314
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If you are serious about making 450 HP then you will want the 6MT. The 5MT will need one expensive gear set to handle that power. The trannies can be had for 3K now and you can do the work yourself. Get used parts and you will see that with enough searching this is a very good upgrade over the 5MT. And if you dont need the DCCD at first you can wire it in later. It will be hard work but with a couple of friends you will be done before you know it.

Search around here for broken RA gear sets, 6mt swaps, etc. Unabomber also has a great tranny write up. Go read that. Tranny write up (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=665334)

Overlord thanks alot

No problem!