How does a 13b Turbo RX7 Engine dropped into a 96 subaru brighton 2 door coupe sound? Lets just say I have it planned I just like to see if anyone ever thought of it. And YES it will work after the adapter kit etc etc etc you know the drill so what does everyone think? More details later :banana: :devil:

Why a 13b turbo? That engine is a money pit my friend. Save yourself the trouble and drop in an STI engine :)

it's been done before, i had pics before my harddrive fried.

here's one, but there was also an orange car with it.
http://www.canze.org.nz/contributions/images_ns/Dcp00690.jpg
and another...
http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com/pics/313.jpg
and same question back at you: WHY????

http://www.canze.org.nz/contributions/picture.cfm?tid=2&sid=49&IM=9

How does a 13b Turbo RX7 Engine dropped into a 96 subaru brighton 2 door coupe sound? Lets just say I have it planned I just like to see if anyone ever thought of it. And YES it will work after the adapter kit etc etc etc you know the drill so what does everyone think? More details later :banana: :devil:


I just remembered that this has been done before.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=703812&highlight=rotary+impreza

There were pics but they don't appear to be working anymore... :confused:


:edit: ahh you beat me to it ;)

it's been done before, i had pics before my harddrive fried.

here's one, but there was also an orange car with it.
http://www.canze.org.nz/contributions/images_ns/Dcp00690.jpg
and another...
http://www.bulletproofautomotive.com/pics/313.jpg
and same question back at you: WHY????

http://www.canze.org.nz/contributions/picture.cfm?tid=2&sid=49&IM=9

But thats a four door, you silly goose! :p

whatever. at least be original, put a spoon K20a2 in.

and same question back at you: WHY????



Because he likes replacing apex seals?

Because he likes replacing apex seals?
it all makes sense now!

So basically 4 grand is alot more then getting an sti? especially for when its built from scratch

Every mag i ever see about an Sti swap is just a headache for 1 wires wires and yes more wires all i have to do is hook a mega squirt to the rx7 turbo and bam plug and play. (after upgrade apex seal blah blah blah i dont have to worry about that my friend Jarl will :D)
2nd its expensive y pay for something that everyone has? and pay more for something that people cant actually afford less u know someone that knows someone to machine it or just buy it straight out from crawford, xcceleration, cobb etc. thats just not the fun part, the fun part is building something that is original not something u want to be orginal thats just boring yes i love subaru with a passion hell i have the 96 that is going to be the nightmare and my 05 2.5 RS thats just my daily driver but its a damn good upgrade for the 96 from a 1.8L to a 1.3 dont u think lol and no its not a money pit as long as u feed ur mechanic

If you want to be original, put a BOSS 429 engine in a GC8.

NAW Gt76 will be the treatment

whatever. at least be original, put a spoon K20a2 in.

Thats low handsdown a spoon K20a2 ? thats pathetic i beat a crx with the same engine at the 1/8 track with my 05 RS stock *cough* awd hurts it hurts. ran 10.1 67mph he ran 10.9 72mph but either way u guys or any u fanantics look at it its going to be scary regardless, garett t76 will up it to 800 and yes i will give u results but alot down the road to even get to it. i work every day making damn steering wheel columns for gm colbalts so if the steering column breaks i didnt do it :D the japs got me cornered working 60 to 75 hours a week and always wondering about my RS what im going to do with it

Dude 1-"A big ball of rubber bands dude!"

Dude 2--"Yeah, that'd be a bad ass swap!"

Dude 1-"JDM rubber bands!"

Dude 2--"**** yeah! That's the ****!"

Dude 1-"Slam it on some cut paper clips. Tight."

Dude 2--"Yeah bro, yeah."

Dude 1-"Hook up mom's hair dryer for boost!"

Dude 2--"You dumbass. Rubber bands don't use boost. They're rotaries."

Dude 1-"Oh yeah, Dude."

Dude 2: "A pencil sharpener"
Dude 1: "A pencil sharpener"

Dude 2--"I'm hungry, Dude."

Dude 1-"Me, too."

THE END

;)

whatever. at least be original, put a spoon K20a2 in.

Thats low handsdown a spoon K20a2 ? thats pathetic i beat a crx with the same engine at the 1/8 track with my 05 RS stock *cough* awd hurts it hurts. ran 10.1 67mph he ran 10.9 72mph but either way u guys or any u fanantics look at it its going to be scary regardless, garett t76 will up it to 800 and yes i will give u results but alot down the road to even get to it. i work every day making damn steering wheel columns for gm colbalts so if the steering column breaks i didnt do it :D the japs got me cornered working 60 to 75 hours a week and always wondering about my RS what im going to do with it
you did NOT beat a CRX with a K20 in it at the track...want to know why? because there's no way that motor would FIT under the hood of a CRX not to mention that it's about 6" longer then a standard B series motor and there's NO trans that would ever bolt up to it.

Dude 1-"A big ball of rubber bands dude!"

Dude 2--"Yeah, that'd be a bad ass swap!"

Dude 1-"JDM rubber bands!"

Dude 2--"**** yeah! That's the ****!"

Dude 1-"Slam it on some cut paper clips. Tight."

Dude 2--"Yeah bro, yeah."

Dude 1-"Hook up mom's hair dryer for boost!"

Dude 2--"You dumbass. Rubber bands don't use boost. They're rotaries."

Dude 1-"Oh yeah, Dude."

Dude 2: "A pencil sharpener"
Dude 1: "A pencil sharpener"

Dude 2--"I'm hungry, Dude."

Dude 1-"Me, too."

THE END

;)


That was good

you did NOT beat a CRX with a K20 in it at the track...want to know why? because there's no way that motor would FIT under the hood of a CRX not to mention that it's about 6" longer then a standard B series motor and there's NO trans that would ever bolt up to it.


umm yea your an idiot, theres k20's in crx's all over the place, its not an uncommon swap at all, only thing your right about is that he wouldnt beat it, just putting a k20a in a crx will net you probably a mid 12 or lower, with the right driver, stock that is . . . . . dont talk about honda if you dont know, stick to subaru. haha

umm yea your an idiot, theres k20's in crx's all over the place, its not an uncommon swap at all, only thing your right about is that he wouldnt beat it, just putting a k20a in a crx will net you probably a mid 12 or lower, with the right driver, stock that is . . . . . dont talk about honda if you dont know, stick to subaru. haha
yeah nevermind, for some reason when i read that i read F20 and was like no way....yeah just disregard what i said

also figure out the screen name, i know a little more about honda then you think it was just an honest mistake. I somehow got F20 in my head.

sounds like a waste of time

sounds like a waste of time


yup

might as well go with a sequential RDW tranny at the same time


or just buy a used zo6 (it will be cheeper/faster than this project)

mmm K20 powa. I wouldn't mind attempting to cram one in my racecar and running it in H1. Athough I think that it would probably tip the car over.

I'm not sure sure of the whole cross breading of cars and engines but hey what ever works for you. If you can make it work and look good while doing it I say go for it. I'd much rather see people putting time into developing a car power and handling wise then dropping thousands of dollars on TV's and body kits.

k24 block, k20 head....1700lbs (w/driver)
http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/429f9f7dzf7342bd1/856b/__sr_/820are2.jpg?phYyijDBHZZWg2jH

http://www.canze.org.nz/contributions/images_ns/Dcp00690.jpg



Uhhh... the motor in this car is NOT a rotary motor... it's a chromed-out EJ20. LOOK CLOSELY!

k24 block, k20 head....1700lbs (w/driver)
http://us.a1.yahoofs.com/users/429f9f7dzf7342bd1/856b/__sr_/820are2.jpg?phYyijDBHZZWg2jH

mmmm nice. Only thing for H1 is that we have to meet the minimum weight of 2250 with driver, post race and K series engines are limited to minimal modifications. It's quite a sight watching an EG hatch with a LSVTEC, a Civic coupe with a B18C5, a Civic coupe with a K series, an EK with a B18C5 and a S2000 all come around you and go nose to tail though turns 5-10 at Summit Point. I'm already missing my busy summer weekends with ECHC.

Why a 13b turbo? That engine is a money pit my friend. Save yourself the trouble and drop in an STI engine :)
What he said...

Call me crazy but at one point I thought about it - but these suckers don't like heat much and turbo generates a lot of heat. Just make sure cooling is there and never run lean - one det and it's time to open up for an apex seal. The 13B turbo weights how much vs a turbo EJ?

Weight shouldn't be too far off but I'll ask the same thing others have. WHY WHY WHY. Trust me, I've owned one and they are junk. Just because Vin Diesel has one doesn't make it a good Daily Driver. But hey, if you like replacing seals and having 0 torque be my guest.

In my opinion, the better swap would be going the opposite direction...an EJ207 into a 3rd gen RX7 chassis.

just contact JWX. He's got an old Loyale with a 13b in it.

sjd

I am planning on going 13b turbo or N/A in my 75 MG midget. in a 1700lb car the low torque shoulden't be a problem. Before you say anything NO ther is NO way i can stuff a subie motor between the framerails. even if there was room i would have to forgo steering. I am concidering AWD but it would require a custom T-case.

^=1. I inherited the same, have one sitting in my garage that my father-in-law rebuilt/restored. He did not do that well of a job restoring it. She runs ok but when i get time, im ripping her apart and putting a different engine in her. I was originaly looking into the ej2.0/wrx motor but dont think it fits. They are to wide. honda engine or rotary. Can i contact you via pm to check youre progress and get pointers?
I had a rx7, fun but not very quick. Nice top end thou. They keep going and....

F.I. 1.3 liter motor with a wimpy torque curve that gets 12mpg is not my idea of smart. Russ is right... those frikkin motors are junk. They have a cool factor, but other that that... nuttin

First pic looks like a polished suby motor.

Thanks for the post guys but heres some pep talk for some who dont just "get it" gives a little more understanding
Migo,
Too much generalizing and hating...
A 13b isn't a bad engine. You guys are probably just afraid of change. Why should everyone conform around you? What if they want to be different?
As usual, there's ignorance in generalizing. Who says the motor has to be stock? What if it's a modded 13b? What low torque are you talking about? Oh, you mean the 350 ft-lbs of torque at the wheels? Rotary engines are more simple to install than a boxer 4, too.
Gotta think outside the box guys. Keep an open mind. That's how development happens. Some guy goes against criticism by know-it-alls... and says "Screw it, I'm going to make this WRX engine swap work with my RS despite people saying it won't work." And voila.

JDMimpreza,

A lot of us old school RS guys used to say this all the time, Back before the EJ20 was avaliable, or at least affordable, a lot of us had to Frankenstein our cars. Some of us are still going, some of us did the swap and moved on.
As long as it's your car, that's all that matters.

Turbineguy,

The reason the performance industry is rife with bolt in stuff is because someone got an idea one day and did it before other people. They were the ones who figured out what was required to do stuff and made it easier for the rest of us. Without the pioneers the rest of us lazy people would not have access to all of the bolt on go fast goodies that we do. Cut the guy some slack and respect his vision and initiative. Go for it man and I hope everything works out.

JDMimpreza
Alot of us GC/GM owners get board with our cars
kinda like why did people make the Super 7? or put an RB into a 350z? or better yet a VQ into an R34?
Nothing wrong with the Subaru power plant,but sometimes it's good to be different

steve_d
just contact JWX. He's got an old Loyale with a 13b in it.

Thanks for the post guys but heres some pep talk for some who dont just "get it" gives a little more understanding
Migo,
Too much generalizing and hating...
A 13b isn't a bad engine. You guys are probably just afraid of change. Why should everyone conform around you? What if they want to be different?
As usual, there's ignorance in generalizing. Who says the motor has to be stock? What if it's a modded 13b? What low torque are you talking about? Oh, you mean the 350 ft-lbs of torque at the wheels? Rotary engines are more simple to install than a boxer 4, too.
Gotta think outside the box guys. Keep an open mind. That's how development happens. Some guy goes against criticism by know-it-alls... and says "Screw it, I'm going to make this WRX engine swap work with my RS despite people saying it won't work." And voila.

JDMimpreza,

A lot of us old school RS guys used to say this all the time, Back before the EJ20 was avaliable, or at least affordable, a lot of us had to Frankenstein our cars. Some of us are still going, some of us did the swap and moved on.
As long as it's your car, that's all that matters.

Turbineguy,

The reason the performance industry is rife with bolt in stuff is because someone got an idea one day and did it before other people. They were the ones who figured out what was required to do stuff and made it easier for the rest of us. Without the pioneers the rest of us lazy people would not have access to all of the bolt on go fast goodies that we do. Cut the guy some slack and respect his vision and initiative. Go for it man and I hope everything works out.

JDMimpreza
Alot of us GC/GM owners get board with our cars
kinda like why did people make the Super 7? or put an RB into a 350z? or better yet a VQ into an R34?
Nothing wrong with the Subaru power plant,but sometimes it's good to be different

steve_d
just contact JWX. He's got an old Loyale with a 13b in it.

Afraid of change? Called modifications. I change out stock parts like I change my underwear. Weekly:devil: (jk)

But 350 lbft wont do you any good of you plan on driving it around off the track. Kinda sucks if you have to rev it to 5k to pull out from a stop sign...

And nobodys conforming to anything. That sentence reveals alot pertaining to your maturity, or lack thereof. Do a little research. Again, the first pic looks like an EJ engine, not a 13B or whatever you thought it is. And the third pic on that site is a 4G63. Do I get a cookie for the later?

You've been here a week, have not even 1% of the posts we have, and yet you think you're gonna school us?

ot: anyone know what lip is on that red gc8?

why not use a better rotary ;) The 13b isn't the onnly one ever.

...Kinda sucks if you have to rev it to 5k to pull out from a stop sign...


Actually, 5k is really nothing in a motor that is capable (if built) to rev to upwards of 15k.... I have seen a few drag cars with rotaries launch at 10k+.

Actually, 5k is really nothing in a motor that is capable (if built) to rev to upwards of 15k.... I have seen a few drag cars with rotaries launch at 10k+.

That was sarcasm.

afraid of change? me? I've got a 1967 Porsche with an EJ18 in the back...afraid of change indeed.

hee hee hee.....

sjd