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View Full Version : EJ205 + DB TD05H-20G + 50/50 Meth/water Injection....
testes1010 12-04-2005, 12:53 PM 326whp/292wtq @ 21psi(93 pump + 50/50 meth/water mix).....full torque by ~3700rpm holds solid to ~5700rpm, very flat torque shelf w/ a slight taper toward redline, very linear power all the way to redline, all smiles :D ...
overall I'm very happy with the results(as always, thanks Jorge), & P&L's service was excellent....highly recommend P&L to anyone in the Chicago area....
Mods that matter:
- TurboXS UTEC (professionally tuned by Jorge @ P&L Motorsports)
- TurboXS Hyperflow TMIC
- TurboXS Magnaflow Catless Turboback Exhaust
- BPM XVR crossover pipe with port-matched & ceramic coated stock exhaust manifold, services supplied though Crucial Racing
- Crucial Racing Uppipe
- Crucial Racing 160deg T-stat
- Ultimate Racing 785cc/min Cylinder Flow Matched Injectors
- Deadbolt Zilla TD05H-20G (ceramic coated)
- CoolingMist 150PSI Alky Injection (UTEC activated, 50/50 Meth/Water)
- GMC Syclone Boost Solenoid
- Perrin Turbo Inlet Hose
- Walbro Fuel Pump 255lph
- XS Engineering CAI
- Mr. Josh's Lightened Crank Pulley
- APS DualVent BPV
- DIY Stainless Steel Hi temp painted & thermal barrier covered Turbo/Downpipe Heatshield
(93 pump + 50/50 Meth/water injection @ 21psi) VS. (93 pump, NO meth @ 23psi)
http://www.wrxfanatics.com/uploads/post-36-1134553633.jpg
scoogan 12-04-2005, 05:05 PM Nice, no tranny upgrades?
testes1010 12-04-2005, 05:17 PM other than a pos SPEC STG2 Clutch & ACT Streetlite flywheel, no...stock gearset, stock tranny...
I've been running w/ this turbo since May(tuned by Jorge)...just recently added the ported/ceramic-coated manifold & meth injection...then got a retune by Jorge
WrxWonderWagon 12-04-2005, 09:08 PM wait so ur peak stayed the same wiht the injection
testes1010 12-04-2005, 09:12 PM nope, 326whp/292wtq @ 21psi(93 pump + 50/50 meth/water mix) minus 299.9whp/274wtq ~18psi(93 pump, no meth)
+ 26whp/18wtq...w/ only ~3 more PSI of boost...
WrxWonderWagon 12-04-2005, 09:13 PM ahh ok
ULTIMATE CC 12-04-2005, 09:28 PM congrats
any plans to run it on 21 psi in the quarter mile?
nuhga 12-05-2005, 07:31 PM cant you run more than 21 w/ meth ?
bren wrx 12-05-2005, 08:19 PM did the ported manifold help at all?
testes1010 12-05-2005, 11:43 PM no, to andy....
yes, to nuhga...jorge had it cranked up to ~25psi...putting down high 330whp w/ less timing..but the TMIC was getting heatsoaked on the dyno...
yes, to bren wrx....but I have no proof of this...
testes1010 12-14-2005, 06:03 AM bumping: added digital image of the dyno sheet instead of crappy pics...
boardertj 12-14-2005, 11:24 PM edit nm im blind.
bren wrx 12-14-2005, 11:48 PM can rifts confirm the help of the manifold prior to tuning the meth
At what psi does the water/alcohol fire off?
testes1010 12-15-2005, 03:05 AM At what psi does the water/alcohol fire off?
near full boost from the look of the graph, I do know that the dip in hp/tq @ 3800-4000rpm is due to the initial onset of the injection...
if you speaking of UTEC settings I'm not 100% sure, I haven't checked the parameters on how Jorge set it up...my laptop took a poop this past week, awaiting a new hd... :(
labelskate 02-23-2006, 02:30 PM sick car.. I'm looking to eventually get a 20g once I upgrade everything all at once via dynocomp. Gotta save lol. you gonna look into a FMIC soon?
testes1010 02-23-2006, 02:55 PM you gonna look into a FMIC soon?
nope...it's a daily driver, I'd much rather have quick throttle response & little more torque down low than to have more topend hp & a little less throttle response & torque down low....
gpatmac 02-23-2006, 03:11 PM Congrats, Hoosier!
Have you strengthened the block at all or had any headwork?
Btw, I'll be down in Eville next week. I'll bring the wagon if it's up to it.
klattery 02-24-2006, 12:21 AM testes1010,
Did P&L help with the install of the parts too? Just curious as I'm thinking of making the drive to Chicago for turbo, injectors, TGV delete, and a protune by Jorge. I trust the tuning, but want to know if I can trust P&L to install (more convenient than installing here and driving).
InfamousDX 02-24-2006, 12:49 AM Wow... very similar to my setup but I love your torque curve.. MUCH broader than mine. Looks great!
ChgoJay 02-24-2006, 03:31 AM testes1010,
Did P&L help with the install of the parts too? Just curious as I'm thinking of making the drive to Chicago for turbo, injectors, TGV delete, and a protune by Jorge. I trust the tuning, but want to know if I can trust P&L to install (more convenient than installing here and driving).
I install all my own parts but if I was going to have someone install my parts, P&L would be my only choice. They do great work and they are really good guys. Always looking out for you.
Jason
keaniegenie 02-24-2006, 03:55 AM Great 2.0l setup. Very impressed.
SubyDuz 02-24-2006, 04:10 AM FMIC and more boost
But very nice numbers
WRX-ERROR 02-24-2006, 10:55 AM FMIC and more boost
But very nice numbers
I disagree.. 322awhp daily driver is enough. Like the man said he values low end power over top end.
Nice numbers man.
testes1010 02-24-2006, 11:18 AM testes1010,
Did P&L help with the install of the parts too?
nope, I did all the installations on this car except the clutch & flywheel which Ron @ AXIS did....I wouldn't be afraid to let P&L install stuff for me though...
thanks guys for all the compliments... :D
testes1010 02-24-2006, 11:21 AM Congrats, Hoosier!
Have you strengthened the block at all or had any headwork?
Btw, I'll be down in Eville next week. I'll bring the wagon if it's up to it.
thanks, still on the stock block & heads...but have been looking into an EJ207 w/ the v7 big port heads OR a AXIS STG2 w/ v7 big port heads...give me a call if you make it down this way...
InfamousDX 02-24-2006, 01:25 PM IC is definitely holding you back but if you like the instant response, keep it. I made more on pump 93 than you did on meth/water + 93 but my lag is about 600 rpm more with a dr725. That and my 8cm² housing chips in for lagx0r.
testes1010 02-24-2006, 04:06 PM IC is definitely holding you back but if you like the instant response, keep it. I made more on pump 93 than you did on meth/water + 93 but my lag is about 600 rpm more with a dr725. That and my 8cm² housing chips in for lagx0r.
which turbo are you running? dyno chart? mod list?
I know the TMIC is restricting my topend(mainly on the dyno, heatsoak, etc)...using road dyno software my hp numbers are ~10whp more but the torque is about 15-20wtq more due to more efficient cooling...
InfamousDX 02-24-2006, 04:22 PM fp td05h-20g w/8cm² ... allt he same bull**** supporting mods... don't feel like scanning my dyno chart (i'm at work anyway, its at home)...
so mine made 320/293 on pump but it hits late... 4200ish. sorry i can't be of more help. hell, i'd be happy as hell making that power w/tmic.
testes1010 02-24-2006, 04:33 PM so mine made 320/293 on pump but it hits late... 4200ish. sorry i can't be of more help. hell, i'd be happy as hell making that power w/tmic.
I'm happy, I was just curious what your setup was.... :D
japslapr 02-24-2006, 06:27 PM Wow... now I'm a newb so I obviously don't know much... but I would have expected a 20g to be capable of quite a bit more power. Big 16's put down 275-280.....
I personally would be extremely content with 330.... I just thought the 20g was more capable, thats all.
testes1010 02-24-2006, 06:35 PM ^ its all dependant on the dyno...& supporting mods, etc...
TD06H-20G should put down a bit more but the EJ205 is somewhat undersized for the job....& you'll have quite a bit more lag...
TD06H-20G should put down a bit more but the EJ205 is somewhat undersized for the job....& you'll have quite a bit more lag...
Only about 400 RPM, if that much, and I was running a FMIC, too.
gpatmac 02-25-2006, 12:16 AM thanks, still on the stock block & heads...but have been looking into an EJ207 w/ the v7 big port heads OR a AXIS STG2 w/ v7 big port heads...give me a call if you make it down this way...I most certainly will.:)
9vapors 02-25-2006, 10:33 AM Great job, nice to see the WRX's getting some good numbers. Do you have any plans for the tranny?
testes1010 02-25-2006, 11:53 AM Do you have any plans for the tranny?
sooner or later a PPG 1-2 straight, 3-4 helical...
gpatmac 03-04-2006, 03:57 PM Bump. I'm in lovely E-ville and would love to check out your car.
PM sent.
gpatmac 03-05-2006, 08:58 PM Jeremy, good meeting you. I think you've got a tremendously solid car; well thought out and put together. You made me reconsider some stuff, too. Thanks. I've got to get my tune to a safe point, then I'm going to set up an appointment with Jorge first chance I can.
testes1010 03-06-2006, 02:58 AM it was cool meeting up w/ you too, you really need to get that car to Jorge...he'll make that setup really shine...
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