they run yesterday a 9.7@143mph, congrats to them and Roly the driver.

Good to see a 9 finally, any new mods?

muy bueno :devil:

sweet thats great.now ams evo better watch out :devil:

Felicidades Gadiel, Vitito y roly.

Jorge

how cool is that!

great job guys!

Tremendous!

9s on a six speed :banana:

Very impressive. I wish this car had a transmission geared towards drag racing it would improve both ET and trap speed. I bet right know it's close to hit the rev limiter on 5th even with the taller tires (hoosiers).

BTW- The car ran 10.2@140 on street tires, the same night. :disco:

Congrats to Big Valley, Gadiel and Roly. :banana:

sweet thats great.now ams evo better watch out :devil:
... if BV gets consistent, yes.

Wonder if they backed this up with another 9 pass? Either way congrats on the 9 pass on a sixxer!!!

... if BV gets consistent, yes.

Wonder if they backed this up with another 9 pass? Either way congrats on the 9 pass on a sixxer!!!

The track was closing and they allow them to run 1 time with the hoosiers. The nitrous bottle was almost empty so they still have room for improvement.

Props to the PR guys.. Good to see a suby in the 9's!

As for the AMS comment. I dont know about that, AMS is trapping 13+mph faster, and not even spraying yet.. THe difference between 9.4 and 9.7 are alot bigger then 12.4, and 12.7..

awesome time, congrats. I really hope someone got that run on tape, or there is a slip.

Ben

Props to the PR guys.. Good to see a suby in the 9's!

As for the AMS comment. I dont know about that, AMS is trapping 13+mph faster, and not even spraying yet.. THe difference between 9.4 and 9.7 are alot bigger then 12.4, and 12.7..

I don't think they can reach AMS for now, but ESX has to watch out.

wow, nice times... congrats

whoo hoooo,

Awesome, congrats guys :)

Rolly is the man.

Props to the PR guys.. Good to see a suby in the 9's!

As for the AMS comment. I dont know about that, AMS is trapping 13+mph faster, and not even spraying yet.. THe difference between 9.4 and 9.7 are alot bigger then 12.4, and 12.7..


Well in my opinion with new gear ratios and some weight reduction the should be very close to them. Of course they know that, they just taking things 1 step at a time. First show people here how strong the STi tranny is and second that even with the super close gearing 9 sec timeslips are possible. :devil:

... if BV gets consistent, yes.

Wonder if they backed this up with another 9 pass? Either way congrats on the 9 pass on a sixxer!!!


cool to see they are getting quicker, from what iv seen BV has always been very consistant.....at least with their 10 second passes :D

Felicidades Gadiel, Vitito y roly.

Jorge

+1

Can't wait till Gadiel starts tunning AccesPorts next year! :banana:

A lot of work has agone into this so again, congrats!!!!!

Wow, hell of accomplishment!! Good job!

Props to the PR guys.. Good to see a suby in the 9's!

As for the AMS comment. I dont know about that, AMS is trapping 13+mph faster, and not even spraying yet.. THe difference between 9.4 and 9.7 are alot bigger then 12.4, and 12.7..


So why isn't AMS running near what Shepherd runs, you know being their engine is such of the same godly caliber?

I'll give a conservative guess of 4-5 seasons before Subarus powered by subaru 4 cylinders surpass (or at least match) 2l powered evos strictly due to displacementm and 2-3 seasons before Subarus powered by subaru 6 cyclinders surpass 2l powered evos.

It's a wild guess though. But you know that EVENTUALLY 3.3 liters will go further than 2 :cool:

But you're right, BV probably isn't going to surpass AMS in the near future. Although I hope they try hard to!

Dam that fast. Are there and vids or anything? Not like i don't believe, just wanna see it:D

Mike

Congratulations! Awesome job guys! Keep on pushing the envelope....

Here is a video of two of the pasess. The first is 10.2 with street tires. The second is the 9.77. Enjoy
http://media.putfile.com/bigvalleypases

lol i love to watch evo's break stuff

AMS is using a GT42R, what is BV using?

unbelievable.

So why isn't AMS running near what Shepherd runs, you know being their engine is such of the same godly caliber?

I'll give a conservative guess of 4-5 seasons before Subarus powered by subaru 4 cylinders surpass (or at least match) 2l powered evos strictly due to displacementm and 2-3 seasons before Subarus powered by subaru 6 cyclinders surpass 2l powered evos.

It's a wild guess though. But you know that EVENTUALLY 3.3 liters will go further than 2 :cool:

But you're right, BV probably isn't going to surpass AMS in the near future. Although I hope they try hard to!

So if i am right what is the point of the rest of your whining? :lol:

I am not taking anything away from these guys, i am glad they are aproaching esx, and still using the 6spd to boot. I am just saying that AMS needs to watch out is a strech, +13mph traps is nothing to sneeze at. I believe they are making another 50whp since they went 9.4's. Not to mention they haven't sprayed yet.

I dont want to ruin Bv's thread, they definetly earned it.

I don't think they can reach AMS for now, but ESX has to watch out.
that's for sure...AMS is in there own league trying to catch up to John Shephard...

Congratulations BV great achievement :banana:
Hope you guys have a video...but if not your record speaks for itself.

As for Shepard...you do know that he is running a 2600lb car on methanol right? Just in case you didnt just email him at his website. I do believe that full interior STI and EVOs are around 3200 give or take.
Of course I saw on one thread where people were arguing that weight doesnt matter that much....must have been the new breed of physics genious :lol: :lol:

As far as not using nitrous...what is the difference if you dont use nitrous but you use 40-50lb of boost. Isnt the cylinder pressure the same when you run high boost or you run lower boost but then add nitrous?

Besides can hazard a guess to say that there will be an STI that will run 8's this year when the time is right :eek: :eek:

Felicidades! Yo quiero ir a Salinas... Tengo que ver ese carrito.

Video doesn't show a time for the run breaking into the 9's.

Congrats! Can't wait to see a swapped GC running competitive times.

Video doesn't show a time for the run breaking into the 9's.

Yeah hopefully they have another video, guess the guy got so exited that he forgot to point the camera at the time. :o If not I’m sure they will be back to the track trying to improve their record.

Congratulations BV great achievement :banana:
Hope you guys have a video...but if not your record speaks for itself.

As for Shepard...you do know that he is running a 2600lb car on methanol right? Just in case you didnt just email him at his website. I do believe that full interior STI and EVOs are around 3200 give or take.
Of course I saw on one thread where people were arguing that weight doesnt matter that much....must have been the new breed of physics genious :lol: :lol:

As far as not using nitrous...what is the difference if you dont use nitrous but you use 40-50lb of boost. Isnt the cylinder pressure the same when you run high boost or you run lower boost but then add nitrous?

Besides can hazard a guess to say that there will be an STI that will run 8's this year when the time is right :eek: :eek:

+1 on the nitrous comment. gt42 is a huge turbo.

+1 on the nitrous comment. gt42 is a huge turbo.
Point is if they are making 800whp off the bottle wait till when/if they spray. Imagine that and a 150shot!

I didnt say it like using nitrous is cheap, it is drag racing use whatever you want.

Point is if they are making 800whp off the bottle wait till when/if they spray. Imagine that and a 150shot!

I didnt say it like using nitrous is cheap, it is drag racing use whatever you want.


You are right.... assuming that the motor can take that much more cylinder pressure when they hit the juice. I would bet that they are reaching their limit as far as cylinder pressure with the boost they are using. There has to be some reason why they dont use juice...especially if they thought that by using the juice they could break into the 8's...

You would think they would use it to help spool the turbo...

AMS is not even in the same league as John Shepard. John Shepard will have the world awd record shortly beating out the hks skyline. He has currently ran a 7.97 pass and is in 2nd place.

Stock trans? Please say yes lol

lol i love to watch evo's break stuff

hehe, that was some funny stuff...

Is it just me, or did he get into 2nd gear after...... five feet?

That is one bad ass sti right there, props to bv :banana:

WOW and WOW.

Stock trans? Please say yes lol
if you are asking about shep he uses one of his own trannys that is still a 5 speed with very minimal upgrades internally. the dsm stock 5 speed is pretty damn strong.

Wow, congrats on their new time. Thats a big step from E-town. They must have changed the gearing in the car, i counted 1st thru 4th gear on both of those runs and if my memory serves me correctly, they were going thru 5 gears at E-town on trapping in the mid 130s.

Wow, congrats on their new time. Thats a big step from E-town. They must have changed the gearing in the car, i counted 1st thru 4th gear on both of those runs and if my memory serves me correctly, they were going thru 5 gears at E-town on trapping in the mid 130s.
i also counted 1st through 4th, unless 1st was 0.5 second long and only to initially squeal the tires :huh:

if you are asking about shep he uses one of his own trannys that is still a 5 speed with very minimal upgrades internally. the dsm stock 5 speed is pretty damn strong.


Nope, talking about the STI

I could be wrong, after looking at the video again, I can't tell if thats a throttle blip or a gear change. If thats 2nd gear, thats like 20 ft out.

me or drac 9


hahah or just drac 9
im not going to pour that much $$ into my car for 9s :)


Congrats! Can't wait to see a swapped GC running competitive times.

so sweet....hell ya

i also counted 1st through 4th, unless 1st was 0.5 second long and only to initially squeal the tires :huh:
he goes to 5th gear.

yea he gets into 5th....1st is so short..i wonder what his 0-60ft times are


congrats

Props to the PR guys.. Good to see a suby in the 9's!

As for the AMS comment. I dont know about that, AMS is trapping 13+mph faster, and not even spraying yet.. THe difference between 9.4 and 9.7 are alot bigger then 12.4, and 12.7..


true. but if i recall, AMS's 9.4 is also minus passenger seats. i dont think the BV crew ever remove these. so i'm thinking it's a lot closer matchup than some may think.

with this 9.7 run, BV now has the fastest manual streetable subaru. surpassing halldor johnson (team ice) and andy forrest (cosie convert).

good job guys.

true. but if i recall, AMS's 9.4 is also minus passenger seats. i dont think the BV crew ever remove these. so i'm thinking it's a lot closer matchup than some may think.

Please don't take this the wrong way but i really doubt taking out the passenger seat is going to put the BV car on par with the AMS car;)

Nice run...great to see 9's out of a suby:D

Louis

with this 9.7 run, BV now has the fastest manual streetable subaru. surpassing halldor johnson (team ice) and andy forrest (cosie convert).

good job guys.

In the UK both cars ran 9's on street tyres.
This car was on "slicks" for the final run apparently ?

Andy

Doesnt really matter what you run....If you are racing heads up and within the rules of your class...If you win you are the fastest.

Thats what classes are for, to even things out.
If that wasnt the case then STI and EVO would have to race heads up against John Shepard and Gary Gardella.

hey bunot i see you finally got a six speed, LOL. good job, way to ditch the auto.

back on topic, all these feats are good in their own right, worse gearing more weight for the big valley crew makes the time even more impressive, and on stock equipment for tranny as well. You could say the UK guys did those times on street tires but do they have built up 5mt's and much lighter GC/GM platforms? That makes their times easier to get, however does not take away from the fact that they got them. Everyone has their own way, lets give props on the time alone. Its not the fastest, its not the first, but its an accomplishment.

Ben

most impressive

So if i am right what is the point of the rest of your whining? :lol:

I am not taking anything away from these guys, i am glad they are aproaching esx, and still using the 6spd to boot. I am just saying that AMS needs to watch out is a strech, +13mph traps is nothing to sneeze at. I believe they are making another 50whp since they went 9.4's. Not to mention they haven't sprayed yet.

I dont want to ruin Bv's thread, they definetly earned it.


Agreed... awesome runs!

But, comparing a 140-142 trap car to a 155-156 trap car is almost like comparing my 125 trap car to the 140 trap car, except worse, lol!

def

In the UK both cars ran 9's on street tyres.
This car was on "slicks" for the final run apparently ?

Andy


regardless, they still now own the title as fastest manual subaru.

i hope to see your car back in action and hopefully surpass these numbers andy. ;)

Please don't take this the wrong way but i really doubt taking out the passenger seat is going to put the BV car on par with the AMS car;)



i'm not going to take it the wrong way.

the fastest run (afaik) AMS made with a full interior was 9.6. if a difference of a tenth of a second doesn't make BV's car on par with AMS....well i don't know what to tell you. ;)

I don't think they can reach AMS for now, but ESX has to watch out.

Julies been running consistend 9.2-9.4's @ 150-154mph so I think they're about as safe as the AMS evo. +10 mph wont be that easy to make up staying with the 6 spd.
I also heard that ESX has stayed in the 9's because they have to for the NHRA Street Class. That its a breakout if they bust into the 8's. Anyone know where I can find that info. I tried searching on the internet but they only list updates. I think they just want everyone to buy the NHRA rulebook.


Gadiel you guys ran that 9 just to prove me wrong in that other thread didnt you. :lol: Less than a week later too.

AMS is not even in the same league as John Shepard. John Shepard will have the world awd record shortly beating out the hks skyline. He has currently ran a 7.97 pass and is in 2nd place.

3rd place

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=46086

if you are asking about shep he uses one of his own trannys that is still a 5 speed with very minimal upgrades internally. the dsm stock 5 speed is pretty damn strong.
he is using a Dog box

he is using a Dog box
wrong. Dog boxes dont have synchros

* SHEPHERD RACING RACE TRANSMISSION *
(same one used in our race Talon)
DSM AWD TRANSMISSION REBUILD | DSM FWD TRANSMISSION REBUILD | OTHER DSM SERVICES



\\ SHEPHERD RACING RACE TRANSMISSION \\

All of the std/upgrade rebuild parts

New 1st gear and input shaft

Double synchro 3-4 option

New intermediate shaft

Heavy duty shift rail

Welded diff and locking sleeve

Magnet upgrade

Rebuilt Shepracing transmissions cost $2195 (core required)

i heard somewhere as well that shep is now using a dogbox. he probably just forgot to update his website with regards to that statement.

you guys could end this off-topic nonsense by simply calling the guy's shop ya know. ;)

Who uses the telephone anymore? ;)

Congrats on the 9's guys, I'm sure there will be more to come.

i heard somewhere as well that shep is now using a dogbox. he probably just forgot to update his website with regards to that statement.

you guys could end this off-topic nonsense by simply calling the guy's shop ya know. ;)
either way he was running 8's at least on a $2500 transmission!!!!!! You can barely get a complete r180 with brembos for that.
It just amazes me how expensive suby tranny stuff is.


So what was changed from the 10.2 to this 9.7??
How do you take off a half second and not break the tranny now, thats just crazy. You guys are using some kind of voodoo voodoo magic down there in PR.
Did you switch clutches or pressure plates or something?

regardless, they still now own the title as fastest manual subaru.

i hope to see your car back in action and hopefully surpass these numbers andy. ;)


Technically, shouldn't the title be "quickest manual Subaru in the 1/4 mile"?

Andy's car is still trapping 4mph faster, with a confirmed 210mph top-speed run! ;)

crazy shifting.

crazy shifting.

I forgot to consider that... 9's on the six-speed is amazing. Congratulations guys! :D

Technically, shouldn't the title be "quickest manual Subaru in the 1/4 mile"?

Andy's car is still trapping 4mph faster, with a confirmed 210mph top-speed run! ;)

yes. you are correct. quickest...fastest....you knows what i meant. ;) :banana:

60FT where 1.65 (good but not great). I don't know if you guys notice that Roly hit the brakes just bejore the end of the run, also from what I heard the car was running out of N2O. I'm sure there will be new times very soon. Not bad for a fulll weight, full exhaust, 6 speed STi. ;)

There still allot of things that can be done to this car. :disco:

Awesome congrats on the run! Keep up the outstanding work!

Julies been running consistend 9.2-9.4's @ 150-154mph so I think they're about as safe as the AMS evo. +10 mph wont be that easy to make up staying with the 6 spd.
I also heard that ESX has stayed in the 9's because they have to for the NHRA Street Class. That its a breakout if they bust into the 8's. Anyone know where I can find that info. I tried searching on the internet but they only list updates. I think they just want everyone to buy the NHRA rulebook.


Gadiel you guys ran that 9 just to prove me wrong in that other thread didnt you. :lol: Less than a week later too.

Links to rules on NHRA's site appear to be freely available:
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2006/rules/ClassRegulations.pdf
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2006/rules/index.html

What particular class is the ESX car in?

edit: She apparently runs 'Sport RWD' ... but it's a head's up class and the rules do not indicate an index for it that I saw.

man that bv sti was flyn! congrats guys!

k.c.

You guys aren't serious right?
You really think that in Sport Rear Wheel Drive that the NHRA will not let you run in the 8's?
I really wish people would stop trying to make excuses for people not being able to run 8's with full interior and weight.
Its easier to get from 12's to 10's than it is to get from 9.25 to 8.99.
It all has to do with the right combination...obviously nobody has figured it out yet.
Besides NOPI Turbo 4 has much more competition and full fields. Not those ridiculous 3 or 4 car fields like NHRA SRWD.

I bet Gadiel will be ready to tackle the competition at NOPI this year... :banana: :banana:

Congratulations Gadiel :banana: :banana:

Pretty good for somebody that doesnt have a $3 Million sponsorship from Subaru...guess we all know who that is...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Julies been running consistend 9.2-9.4's @ 150-154mph so I think they're about as safe as the AMS evo. +10 mph wont be that easy to make up staying with the 6 spd.
I also heard that ESX has stayed in the 9's because they have to for the NHRA Street Class. That its a breakout if they bust into the 8's. Anyone know where I can find that info. I tried searching on the internet but they only list updates. I think they just want everyone to buy the NHRA rulebook.


Gadiel you guys ran that 9 just to prove me wrong in that other thread didnt you. :lol: Less than a week later too.
nhra try's to level the playing field in most heads up class. after julie running the 9.21 at pomona, nhra increased their weight to 3200lbs for next year. which means now the car will have 300lbs in the trunk versus the 200lbs it carried last year. while the mazda and toyota's weight between 2600 2800lbs so it really makes no sense to run faster than neceassry.

So why isn't AMS running near what Shepherd runs, you know being their engine is such of the same godly caliber?

I'll give a conservative guess of 4-5 seasons before Subarus powered by subaru 4 cylinders surpass (or at least match) 2l powered evos strictly due to displacementm and 2-3 seasons before Subarus powered by subaru 6 cyclinders surpass 2l powered evos.

It's a wild guess though. But you know that EVENTUALLY 3.3 liters will go further than 2 :cool:

But you're right, BV probably isn't going to surpass AMS in the near future. Although I hope they try hard to!
You do know Mitsubishi has a 4g63 which is a 2.4L correct?... And 4g63 can handle more boost than a EJ

You do know Mitsubishi has a 4g63 which is a 2.4L correct?... And 4g63 can handle more boost than a EJ

Not all 4g's are built equal. I can't comment on the 4g63t..but, maybe you could?

he is using a Dog box


http://www.sheptrans.com/stage5.php?vid=dsm

maybe it's this one.

nhra try's to level the playing field in most heads up class. after julie running the 9.21 at pomona, nhra increased their weight to 3200lbs for next year. which means now the car will have 300lbs in the trunk versus the 200lbs it carried last year. while the mazda and toyota's weight between 2600 2800lbs so it really makes no sense to run faster than neceassry.
I guess they dont need to run faster to win since they will not run in NOPI since they know they will have to make more than two passes to win. Get a grip the minimum weight for AWD with 2 power adders is 3200. ESX is not getting penalized any more than anyone else. Just more propaganda... :lol: :lol:

Read the rulebook before you go quoting what someone told you.
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2006/rules/ClassRegulations.pdf
page 11

I guess they dont need to run faster to win since they will not run in NOPI since they know they will have to make more than two passes to win. Get a grip the minimum weight for AWD with 2 power adders is 3200. ESX is not getting penalized any more than anyone else. Just more propaganda... :lol: :lol:

Read the rulebook before you go quoting what someone told you.
http://www.nhrasportcompact.com/2006/rules/ClassRegulations.pdf
page 11
my statment was true 100 lbs for awd for 06 in srwd. which we were informed of the night after the run in pomona at the sport compact banquet. wasn't quoting nothing but the fact's

Great run. Hope to see more coming from the BV crew

I guess they dont need to run faster to win since they will not run in NOPI since they know they will have to make more than two passes to win.



they're at a disadvantage running in NOPI since they let their participants strip the interior. Subaru being the sponsor won't let ESX do that.

In Turbo 4 you can remove the pass. seat and everything behind the B-pillar. We chose to remove the pass. seat because with all the safety equipment I have to wear to be legal on a 9 sec. pass, I have to have someone get into the car with me and help me get everything strapped in. Also for safety interests, I'd rather not have that other seat over there during a 150+ mph crash. It would just be something else to impail itself into my thick skull. The seat is carbon kevlar, and only weighs like 15-17 lbs so the difference is nill to say the least. We've kept the rest of the interior intact to preserve the streetability of the car, which we've demonstrated quite well in some recent videos. :D

On a side note, we would really love to take the car down to P.R. and run it/show it. Does BV or anyone know who we could get in contact with to possibly arrange some promotional stuff? Winter is long, cold, and boring up here in Chicago, we would love to take a trip to the Islands and do some testing and have some fun.

hello everyone,
first and foremost.........congrads to gadiel. very nice run, and it's great to see a sti launch that strong and fast. good wheelsss spin too. didn't see the second run time to clear after the 1st run red light. hope to see ya over in md this summer or pa. jac

"sorry for mispelling your name!"

now read your lol i love to watch evo's break stuff
hey the cars are somewhat evenly matched. 2ltr/5spd or 2.5 liter 6spd. which ones thirstier? the real thing is thier both awd's and they look good. oh, and where still short on those hondas all over the country. food for thought, and you got to be bigger than that. :banana: jac

who is gabriel?

it's GADIEL. Reading is fun!!;)

Ben

Yes, i can go to sleep happy now. :)

Are they using any launch control? It doesn't sound like it on the video, but maybe. More great times from the PR guys. CONGRATS!

3rd place

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/showthread.php?t=46086

Another 6 cyl. G-Force shifted Skyline. John is doing it with an H-Pattern shifted Dog Box gearset in a factory case. Oh yeah, and a 2.0 4-cyl. ;)

On a side note, we would really love to take the car down to P.R. and run it/show it. Does BV or anyone know who we could get in contact with to possibly arrange some promotional stuff? Winter is long, cold, and boring up here in Chicago, we would love to take a trip to the Islands and do some testing and have some fun.

December in Puerto Rico, is about 78-88 degrees. It's nice.

Chicago is what, like 12 degrees right? :lol:

wow... awesome 9 second vid!! that's hot.l

congrats

Sweet!

Finally the Big Valley STI video of the 9.7sec pass
Note: Need Quicktime player to see the video.

www.carrito.net/bigvalley/9.7sec @143.8mph Big Valley STI.mov

Gadiel

Hello guys, tomorrow we will be on the dragstrip again. We expect to certify the time or may be go faster (who knows ?) so we keep you inform.

Victor

Sound only...what codecs or whatever do I need?

I saw the vid fine, very nice Gadiel. :eek:

You need to download the lastes version of Quicktime player
try this link

http://www.apple.com/quicktime/download/

Gadiel

damn,that was sick.

Nice run!!!! I love the reaction of the guy in the video.

Thanks vitito!

Sweet, this is the first USDM STi in the 9s right? Very cool.

-JWM

Gadiel, want me to merge this thread with the other one?

It sounds like you shifted 2 times before you even got out of the hole!! Congrats! That's d@mn fast!

That's sweat. Good job!

Very quick into 2nd...

man, thats sick. Nice job!!!

Wow!

First 9 second USDM STI.

Great vid. Thanks for posting.

wow, the quikness, mod list

In Turbo 4 you can remove the pass. seat and everything behind the B-pillar. We chose to remove the pass. seat because with all the safety equipment I have to wear to be legal on a 9 sec. pass, I have to have someone get into the car with me and help me get everything strapped in. Also for safety interests, I'd rather not have that other seat over there during a 150+ mph crash. It would just be something else to impail itself into my thick skull. The seat is carbon kevlar, and only weighs like 15-17 lbs so the difference is nill to say the least. We've kept the rest of the interior intact to preserve the streetability of the car, which we've demonstrated quite well in some recent videos.



Since ESX doesnt even have power steering in their car I would hardly worry about them saying that their car is streetable. I guess if you want a Subaru that turns like an old truck its streetable.... :lol: :lol:
As for NOPI rules, they say you can remove... what about 30lbs with the stuff you can take out.
Saw ESX run in NOPI in early 04...needless to say that they didnt win so of course they dont go anymore.
There is no chance that they will ever show up to race against you guys since you are able to run multiple passes in the low 9's. They run in NHRA because they only have to make 2 passes total to win. One Wally that they won was a bye in the first round and they won in the finals. Make at least two passes or feel disgraced that you accepted a Wally like they did at Pomona.... :lol: :lol:
Not quite like the full field that you had to face at NOPI finals. I guess if NOPI would limit their fields to less than 8 cars they could get ESX to show up. :lol: :lol:

Hey Eric:
Are you guys planning on running any NHRA Sport Rear Wheel events this year? Most guys can run in them because of the no fuel cell rule. Probably why they cant fill a field....Good luck getting into the 9's... :banana: :banana:

Sweet, this is the first USDM STi in the 9s right? Very cool.
-JWM

Wow!
First 9 second USDM STI.

Someone please explain again why this is the first? What about ESX?

IMO the motor and its components make a car and not the transmission.
And neither this car nor the ESX car have anything STi about their motors anymore.

If Perrin ran his "STi" that has a turbo H6 in it and it ran an 8, would it be the first USDM STi in the 8's?
And what is this car considered, a real WRX? (30 Days to finish the 3.3L Pro Street Tire Drag Monster (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=790645&highlight=3.3))
What if i put a smallblock in an STi and mated it to the stock tranny and ran a 7? Is it still an STi because it has the transmission?

Just wondering where you guys draw the line in calling something a real STi or real USDM STi? From your comments you obviously dont care that the motors are sleeved bored to 2.65L, have full headwork, a different valvetrain, aftermarket internals. But if you change the internals of the bell housing its not a STi anymore? What if you take out the 6 disc changer, is it still a real STi?
Just curious in the line of thinking here. I dont wanna change my gas cap and not be considered a real WRX anymore. :devil:

Finally the Big Valley STI video of the 9.7sec pass
Note: Need Quicktime player to see the video.

www.carrito.net/bigvalley/9.7sec @143.8mph Big Valley STI.mov

Gadiel

Congrats to the Big Valley team and all those involved with this record setting run :D

Quirt Crawford
www.crawfordperformance.com

Well Phatron the car is using the sti drivetrain, sti heads, sti shortblock and all the components of an sti, so its the first usdm sti in the 9s, your post sound like you have envy or something similar, its easy to say congrats on the achievements

mod list
Old mod list from a thread back in June, not sure whats changed since then if anything. This is from when they dynoed 720whp and 700 ft*lbs
719.5whp & 709.3ft-lbs torque USDM STI (vid on post 320!) (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781750&page=20&pp=25)

PE 850cc
Large Garret GT series Turbocharger (GT35)
Greddy eo1
Utec (I'm not sure but I think it was tuned by Gadiel )
Exhaust
CAI
external wastegate
Fuel Pump
Custom made Front Mount Intercooler.
Crawford Performance Package R3 Racing Motor
complete head work with stock cams.
Clutch (The plate is act and the disc is clutch master)
NOS
Stock USDM STi tranny
vp c16
Full Interior, c/c, a/c, etc

Well Phatron the car is using the sti drivetrain, sti heads, sti shortblock and all the components of an sti, so its the first usdm sti in the 9s, your post sound like you have envy or something similar, its easy to say congrats on the achievements
Its using the outer part of the STi heads that came from Subaru, but the part of the heads that really matter, the flowpath, has been totally altered. The valvetrain is been upgraded to aftermarket pieces that arent made by subaru.
The same for the block, yes the outside is from subaru, but none of theses internals are subaru parts and the USDM STi block is not closed deck:
2.65 Liter, Closed Deck, Replaceable Wet Sleeves, Forged Crank, Forged Pistons, 4340 Rods, Piston Squirters.

Will you please explain how these are "all the components of an sti" ?

And if you can say this "sti drivetrain, sti heads, sti shortblock and all the components of an sti" about BV's car, then why cant you say the same for the ESX car (except for the tranny)?
I just dont understand the line of logic here. At what point will it not be considered a USDM STi anymore? And when did ESX reach that point?

What Phatron Jealous!!!!I hope that you at least have a STI and then that at least you are running in the 10s..If not whenever you get down there like BV ,we will love to hear it :devil:

Of course I'm jealous, anyone reading PPB should be jealous of this time minus the Rigolis and ESX.
Thats not the reason for my posts though, I just want to understand the line of thinking and why the ESX car is not considered a USDM STi, yet this one is?
I in no way cut anyone down or said anything negative about the BV crew in my posts. I merely want to understand the line of thinking of the posters of the comments.

Waowwwww your surprised me
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Kutito
San Juan, Puerto Rico

your post sound like you have envy or something similar
What Phatron Jealous!!!!
All you guys have to do is answer my questions and not start with the personal comments.

Nice job guys.

Phatron, start your own thread about "what makes a USDM STi a USDM STi" or something. It doesn't belong here. Really. :rolleyes:

What Phatron Jealous!!!!I hope that you at least have a STI and then that at least you are running in the 10s..If not whenever you get down there like BV ,we will love to hear it :devil:

Hey Doc,
Great run with your car... :banana: :banana:
You gotta remember on this forum that 95% of the people are jealous.
There is a very small amount of people that do anything except just bolt on a bunch of stuff.
Most dont realize they should not talk about racing when they are just bolting on stuff to cruise on the streets. You should know you are going to hear all kinds of excuses. Guess what? First one to the finish line wins. Just keep doing what you are doing and you will be in the 9's soon.
Just remember most of these guys have no clue how much money it takes to run a good number.
Basically Subaru is not about to put those blocks in STI's because most people cant afford the STI the way it is. So what are they going to use better parts and charge 40K for the car.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Doc,
Great run with your car... :banana: :banana:
You gotta remember on this forum that 95% of the people are jealous.
There is a very small amount of people that do anything except just bolt on a bunch of stuff.
Most dont realize they should not talk about racing when they are just bolting on stuff to cruise on the streets. You should know you are going to hear all kinds of excuses. Guess what? First one to the finish line wins. Just keep doing what you are doing and you will be in the 9's soon.
Just remember most of these guys have no clue how much money it takes to run a good number.
Basically Subaru is not about to put those blocks in STI's because most people cant afford the STI the way it is. So what are they going to use better parts and charge 40K for the car.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Ha Ha....thats pretty ironic....DRSti is getting criticism about his 10sec car from people with 11 and 12 sec cars..... :lol: :lol:

Holy **** that was a quick 1st gear!!! :eek:

Ha Ha....thats pretty ironic....DRSti is getting criticism about his 10sec car from people with 11 and 12 sec cars..... :lol: :lol:
I didnt criticize anyones car. And once again more personal comments and not one of my questions have been answered.

You gotta remember on this forum that 95% of the people are jealous.
There is a very small amount of people that do anything except just bolt on a bunch of stuff.
Most dont realize they should not talk about racing when they are just bolting on stuff to cruise on the streets. Just remember most of these guys have no clue how much money it takes to run a good number.

And I have more than just a bunch of bolt ons. If you're curious you can see pics and mod list here and here
Gauging Interest: '02 WRX 350 whp on 91 (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=682192)
Bugeye (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=798635)

And then you can search through Proven Power Bragging and try and find 5 people that have trapped 115 mph on 91 octane in an 02 WRX.
Until then just answer my questions or quit it with the jealousy shiite.

Since ESX doesnt even have power steering in their car I would hardly worry about them saying that their car is streetable. I guess if you want a Subaru that turns like an old truck its streetable.... :lol: :lol:
As for NOPI rules, they say you can remove... what about 30lbs with the stuff you can take out.
Saw ESX run in NOPI in early 04...needless to say that they didnt win so of course they dont go anymore.
There is no chance that they will ever show up to race against you guys since you are able to run multiple passes in the low 9's. They run in NHRA because they only have to make 2 passes total to win. One Wally that they won was a bye in the first round and they won in the finals. Make at least two passes or feel disgraced that you accepted a Wally like they did at Pomona.... :lol: :lol:
Not quite like the full field that you had to face at NOPI finals. I guess if NOPI would limit their fields to less than 8 cars they could get ESX to show up. :lol: :lol:

Hey Eric:
Are you guys planning on running any NHRA Sport Rear Wheel events this year? Most guys can run in them because of the no fuel cell rule. Probably why they cant fill a field....Good luck getting into the 9's... :banana: :banana:

Yet another NASIOC member that has no idea what they are talking about.


Congrats to Big Valley, Gadiel. Keep up the good work

Holy **** that was a quick 1st gear!!! :eek:


I'm almost positive he started in 2nd... or he didn't make it to 6th :cool:

Hello guys, tomorrow we will be on the dragstrip again. We expect to certify the time or may be go faster (who knows ?) so we keep you inform.

Victor

Victor,

Are you going to tow you STI to the track tomorrow? :)

Quirt

^ has plenty of power to do so, hmmmm

They put a Chevy, Ford, and Dodge name to all the cars in the roundy round races and in NHRA top fuel and funny car events but they have no production parts on them does that make them something else as well...

They are running a Subaru engine in a Subaru body so I think its ok to call it an STi. Just my thought

thats his point, so is ESX, if its just a matter of subaru engine in subaru body, then ESX is the first USDM STi.

I would like to know the distinction also, personally its probably just the fact that ESX doesnt really post on here and Gadiel and Big Valley are known so we give them props.

Like i have said before its a great time either way.

Ben

I would agree with phatron. I would like to no?

Hello guys, tomorrow we will be on the dragstrip again. We expect to certify the time or may be go faster (who knows ?) so we keep you inform.

Victor

Awesome! Good luck on the runs!

I cant see the video. Can someone put in media.putfile.com

I have a Mac OSX (10.2) tu upgrade the version of quicktime, I have to get the 10.3 version.

Until then just answer my questions or quit it with the jealousy shiite.

:lol: You just substituted a muslim faction for feces :lol:

Someone please explain again why this is the first? What about ESX?

IMO the motor and its components make a car and not the transmission.
And neither this car nor the ESX car have anything STi about their motors anymore.

If Perrin ran his "STi" that has a turbo H6 in it and it ran an 8, would it be the first USDM STi in the 8's?
And what is this car considered, a real WRX? (30 Days to finish the 3.3L Pro Street Tire Drag Monster (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=790645&highlight=3.3))
What if i put a smallblock in an STi and mated it to the stock tranny and ran a 7? Is it still an STi because it has the transmission?

Just wondering where you guys draw the line in calling something a real STi or real USDM STi? From your comments you obviously dont care that the motors are sleeved bored to 2.65L, have full headwork, a different valvetrain, aftermarket internals. But if you change the internals of the bell housing its not a STi anymore? What if you take out the 6 disc changer, is it still a real STi?
Just curious in the line of thinking here. I dont wanna change my gas cap and not be considered a real WRX anymore. :devil:

dude why are you such a hater? every time these guys do something you say something to try to take away from their achievement in every thread. Come on give it up to these guys, they even came to the mainland and gave credability to our cars after getting our asses smoke in previous years. These guys are not sponsored like esx and have 3 million dollar contracts. This is just a group of guys who love cars and chose the sti platform to push it to the limits. Lots of people mod their sti's (PARTICULARLY IN THE PPG) and none of us are coming close to this. Nonetheless the car is still sti.

Great video

Great driving, good job guys!

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SLR-

its not the first STi in the 9's

Someone please explain again why this is the first? What about ESX?

IMO the motor and its components make a car and not the transmission.
And neither this car nor the ESX car have anything STi about their motors anymore.

If Perrin ran his "STi" that has a turbo H6 in it and it ran an 8, would it be the first USDM STi in the 8's?
And what is this car considered, a real WRX? (30 Days to finish the Pro Street Tire Drag Monster (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=790645&highlight=3.3))
What if i put a smallblock in an STi and mated it to the stock tranny and ran a 7? Is it still an STi because it has the transmission?

Just wondering where you guys draw the line in calling something a real STi or real USDM STi? From your comments you obviously dont care that the motors are sleeved bored to 2.65L, have full headwork, a different valvetrain, aftermarket internals. But if you change the internals of the bell housing its not a STi anymore? What if you take out the 6 disc changer, is it still a real STi?
Just curious in the line of thinking here. I dont wanna change my gas cap and not be considered a real WRX anymore. :devil:
I agree with mnavarro.

You need to lighten up about four notches on a scale of 1-5....

I consider ESX a factory backed company, hence their signature series STIs and their HUGE budget to spend on their cars. Gadiel is a tuner and doesn't have the huge budget, yet he is running times nearly as good as Julie Stepan's. This is all my opinion, so if you disagree you should really think about where you read the opinion.... on an internet forum and you should just let it go at that point.

If you want to really get technical, there's no hard and fast rule on "when a car isn't the kind it was released from the factory as" anymore.

1) Just bolt ons - still an STI
2) Bolt ons & built engine of same displacement - still STi, but approaching area of gray
3) Bolt ons & built engine of different size/displacement - I consider this an area of gray. If you have a WRX with an EJ257 swap most people call it a hybrid and not a WRX since it has an engine from another model (the USDM STI). What do you call an STI with a 2.65L or a 2.8L EJ257 swap? I don't know, but it seems as though it would still be an STi only with a built EJ257 allowing for larger displacement. I agree about the Perrin car with a H6 engine... definitely not an STi.
3) Tube chassis - not an STi, more like a professional drag car

This is just my simple way of thinking and is not a rule so if you don't agree, remember, you are reading this on an internet forum...

Just wondering where you guys draw the line in calling something a real STi or real USDM STi? From your comments you obviously dont care that the motors are sleeved bored to 2.65L, have full headwork, a different valvetrain, aftermarket internals. But if you change the internals of the bell housing its not a STi anymore? What if you take out the 6 disc changer, is it still a real STi?


Give me a frikkin break... the motor is still based on the EJ257. I don't care if he somehow added 2 extra cylinders into the block and gold-plated it. It is still a USDM STi motor.


Just curious in the line of thinking here. I dont wanna change my gas cap and not be considered a real WRX anymore. :devil:

According to the stats you have posted on your car, you have a "stroker kit" in your EJ205... so, according to you, that would make it NOT a USDM WRX motor.... so you couldn't really say "I have a USDM WRX that makes 350whp" now, could you?

60FT where 1.65 (good but not great). I don't know if you guys notice that Roly hit the brakes just bejore the end of the run, also from what I heard the car was running out of N2O. I'm sure there will be new times very soon. Not bad for a fulll weight, full exhaust, 6 speed STi. ;)

There still allot of things that can be done to this car. :disco:

6 speed no no no. Dogbox yes yes :eek:

6 speed no no no. Dogbox yes yes :eek:

They are still using the stock 6 speed. They will probably go to a dog box for the faster shifting and better ratios. The STi 6 speed has shown it can handle some power. ;)

I have driven in the ESX car ,and currently own a built GT35r STI , No comparison and I can run 10.9et in mine . The automatic tranny is really nice . The reason I was able to drive in it was because I won a raffle when they came to Jacksonville .

They are still using the stock 6 speed. They will probably go to a dog box for the faster shifting and better ratios. The STi 6 speed has sown it can handle some power. ;)

Someone from the Island told me that they are using a dogbox right now. No stock tranny anymore. :confused:

I see many people here commenting on this car and the ESX car...not knowing what the heck they are talking about.

Unless this comes from the BV crews mouth it is all just gossip IMHO.

Congrats to the guys from PR :disco: with a 9 and now 10 second car ...maybe this will jumpstart some vendors here to get up off their butts stop bragging about 500-600whp cars and actually run them ;)...maybe not :(

According to the stats you have posted on your car, you have a "stroker kit" in your EJ205... so, according to you, that would make it NOT a USDM WRX motor.... so you couldn't really say "I have a USDM WRX that makes 350whp" now, could you?
thats my point and its not a wrx anymore.

when people made the threads about fastest ej20 i didnt qualify.

and IIRC the R3 block is not made from a USDM STi motor. I thought they started as closed deck something or others and didnt start as a semi closed usdm sti motor.

Wow Imprecionante! :banana: Congrats on the time and my respect to Rolly the driver, Great job! I made my bet that soon I'll see Big Valley STI pushing over 800whp if not is already there with the great hands of Gadiel Tuning. :)

Juan :cool:

thats my point and its not a wrx anymore.

when people made the threads about fastest ej20 i didnt qualify.

and IIRC the R3 block is not made from a USDM STi motor. I thought they started as closed deck something or others and didnt start as a semi closed usdm sti motor.

???????????????????????????????????????? :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

dude why are you such a hater? every time these guys do something you say something to try to take away from their achievement in every thread. Come on give it up to these guys, they even came to the mainland and gave credability to our cars after getting our asses smoke in previous years. These guys are not sponsored like esx and have 3 million dollar contracts. This is just a group of guys who love cars and chose the sti platform to push it to the limits. Lots of people mod their sti's (PARTICULARLY IN THE PPG) and none of us are coming close to this. Nonetheless the car is still sti.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:ban ana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:

Who knows what this new
"Setup" is :confused: ....The BV crew has kept tight lipped about this.

I see many people here commenting on this car and the ESX car...not knowing what the heck they are talking about.

Unless this comes from the BV crews mouth it is all just gossip IMHO.

Congrats to the guys from PR :disco: with a 9 and now 10 second car ...maybe this will be a kick in the pants for some vendors here to get up off their butts stop bragging about 500-600whp cars and actually run them ;)

Sorry, I thougt everybody knew that. :(

Its very funny how every body talk about the mod that the car is using at this moment, using this phrase " Someone from the Island told me that they are using a dogbox right now. No stock tranny anymore."
Only 5 people now exactlly what changes and adjustment we have done to the car.
Gadiel, Vitito, Georgie, Jorge, and Quirt. Any other person speculate about our car.

But I know that alot of people want to know or an idea of the changes of the car thats the list:

For the moment we have work on the clutch department, power department, suspension, and launch.
Soon we are going to do major changes but we let you know.

Just have fun and enjoy the moment as our crew.

Gadiel

[QUOTE=Phatron]All you guys have to do is answer my questions and not start with the personal comments.[/QUOTE
PEOPLE HERE ALL THEY DO IS :furious: CAUSE THEY DON'T GIVE CREDIT TO WHO REALLY DESERVED AND BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN PUTTING MONEY IN THEIR CAR AND ALL THEY DO IS 12'S HIGH IN THE 1/4 MILE :lol:

Sorry, I thougt everybody knew that. :(
We all know who has the fastest cars around...and its a shame that we have BIG shops here makin big bucks...while i read about the guys over in PR working on dirt floors...and they are still kicken the living crap out of cars from here. :lol:

I have to first say congratulations to Gadiel. Awesome cars guys, it looks and sounds badass. Way to go.

Second, as far as the car goes, i would consider it an STi. It still uses the stock transmission and the racing engine is based off of the USDM motor. Those are the two most important things, plus its still a USDM STi body. The tranny is a major thing, ESX using a different one kinda takes it out of the running. Especially since our stock gears are so close.

What does my driving ability have to do with my question? Its just a question. Nowhere did i put anyone down or try to take away from this car, which is impossible for anyone to do. You cant put down a 9 second stock tranny car.
All i did was post a question seeking an answer.
So we know that I'm a retard, I'm fat, I cant drive, my car sucks, I cant type, my moms a hoe, and my dad is a transvestite.

We all know who has the fastest cars around...and its a shame that we have BIG shops here makin big bucks...while i read about the guys over in PR working on dirt floors...and they are still kicken the living crap out of cars from here. :lol:


Couldn't have said it better myself. Everyone over here is making excuses on how the car isn't able to make this much power and then the BV crew goes out and proves them, Wrong Doesn't look good for Business. Now go run some 10's :disco: :disco: :disco: :devil:

Someone from the Island told me that they are using a dogbox right now. No stock tranny anymore. :confused:
it's possible that would explain the leap into the 9s. Not really important as they've proven that a stock 6 speed can handle 600+whp. I guess we'll have to wait for BV to clear the issue with an official word.

didn't read Gadiel's post before replying. He still doesn't mention what tranny was used for that run so it still could have been the 6 speed. We'll have to wait and see if he'll let some more info slip out :devil:

So we know that I'm a retard, I'm fat, I cant drive, my car sucks, I cant type, my moms a hoe, and my dad is a transvestite.
:lol: :banana:

I thought therapy was helpin you get over that stuff?

I have to first say congratulations to Gadiel. Awesome cars guys, it looks and sounds badass. Way to go.

Second, as far as the car goes, i would consider it an STi. It still uses the stock transmission and the racing engine is based off of the USDM motor. Those are the two most important things, plus its still a USDM STi body. The tranny is a major thing, ESX using a different one kinda takes it out of the running. Especially since our stock gears are so close.


imagine if they ran a JDM six speed :eek: even closer ratios.

All i did was post a question seeking an answer.
So we know that I'm a retard, I'm fat, I cant drive, my car sucks, I cant type, my moms a hoe, and my dad is a transvestite.
and I thought my life was rough :devil:

I think they said the clutch setup was holding them back! I guess they worked that out!

Anyone want to speculate on what they mean by totally different flow path on the heads?

Anyone want to speculate on what they mean by totally different flow path on the heads?

He was just talking about the cross-ram flow velocity in relation to the intake runner length ratio :lol: The altered flow path by the invasive re-channel match porting of the TGV deletes streamlines the flow, thus making it different and not USDM.

Second, as far as the car goes, i would consider it an STi. It still uses the stock transmission and the racing engine is based off of the USDM motor. Those are the two most important things, plus its still a USDM STi body. The tranny is a major thing, ESX using a different one kinda takes it out of the running. Especially since our stock gears are so close.
Ok, but whats the differece between changing the internals of the motor and the internals of the tranny. The ESX tranny is still in the Subaru case.

the racing engine is based off of the USDM motor.
Can anyone confirm this? Quirt?
I thought the R3 started off as a closed deck JDM motor and not as a USDM STi motor. I thought this was discussed in one of the old threads where they first revealed the type of motor.

He was just talking about the cross-ram flow velocity in relation to the intake runner length ratio :lol: The altered flow path by the invasive re-channel match porting of the TGV deletes streamlines the flow, thus making it different and not USDM.
:lol:

Thats good stuff.

Damn this thread sucks.

Damn this thread sucks.
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengance and furious anger those who poison and destroy my threads.



PS: This thread was only a link to a video, get over it

The S series blocks from Crawford are based off of the semi closed deck USDM STi block and the R series blocks are based off of the closed deck EJ22T.

damn that is fast good to see we,ve hit the 9s very nice

What do you call an STI with a 2.65L or a 2.8L EJ257 swap? I don't know, but it seems as though it would still be an STi only with a built EJ257 allowing for larger displacement.
Give me a frikkin break... the motor is still based on the EJ257. It is still a USDM STi motor.

It still uses the stock transmission and the racing engine is based off of the USDM motor.
The S series blocks from Crawford are based off of the semi closed deck USDM STi block and the R series blocks are based off of the closed deck EJ22T.

Thats what i thought. What do you guys think now that the motor isnt from a USDM STi?

Thats what i thought. What do you guys think now that the motor isnt from a USDM STi?


it's from a USDM legacy ;)

The r3/4 are based on the ej22

I agree with mnavarro.

You need to lighten up about four notches on a scale of 1-5....

I consider ESX a factory backed company, hence their signature series STIs and their HUGE budget to spend on their cars. Gadiel is a tuner and doesn't have the huge budget, yet he is running times nearly as good as Julie Stepan's. This is all my opinion, so if you disagree you should really think about where you read the opinion.... on an internet forum and you should just let it go at that point.

If you want to really get technical, there's no hard and fast rule on "when a car isn't the kind it was released from the factory as" anymore.

1) Just bolt ons - still an STI
2) Bolt ons & built engine of same displacement - still STi, but approaching area of gray
3) Bolt ons & built engine of different size/displacement - I consider this an area of gray. If you have a WRX with an EJ257 swap most people call it a hybrid and not a WRX since it has an engine from another model (the USDM STI). What do you call an STI with a 2.65L or a 2.8L EJ257 swap? I don't know, but it seems as though it would still be an STi only with a built EJ257 allowing for larger displacement. I agree about the Perrin car with a H6 engine... definitely not an STi.
3) Tube chassis - not an STi, more like a professional drag car

This is just my simple way of thinking and is not a rule so if you don't agree, remember, you are reading this on an internet forum...


Good to see people say it like it is. It is a matter of opinion but when it comes to racing you have to meet the requirements of the class. If you beat everybody in your class there really arent any excuses... :p
Oh and speaking of a tube chassis STI check out this one that is for sale:

http://www.racingjunk.com/exec/ca/view/503147/2005-Pro-Modified-Subaru-STi-for-Sale.html


Big Valley you guys are greatest.. You show people how you dont need that big budget to be successful. Hope you guys will be at Springnationals at Englishtown in 06 :banana: :banana: :banana:

Supremely impressive!

Do I smell 8s? Haha, jk..




But seriously ;)

Supremely impressive!

Do I smell 8s? Haha, jk..

no doubt.

If they got into the 8's on the 6er that would be truly unbelievable. Probably take a helluva lot of weight reduction.

At this point i think they'd be a little closer with a 5spd dog in the 6spd box and very close if they went straight to a 4 spd auto with a little weight reduction.

All these are with the Hydra now right? Or are they on the UTEC still?

I just got off the phone with Victor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Get ready for another video and time slip. :banana: :banana: :banana:

Quirt Crawford
www.crawfordperformance.com












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[QUOTE=Crawford Performance]I just got off the phone with Victor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Get ready for another video and time slip. :banana: :banana: :banana:

Quirt Crawford
www.crawfordperformance.com

Quirt post on the other topic I opened, posted the time and the site that will host the video.

i agree with phatron. while im not saying gadiel didnt do a great job with his run, with all that done to the engine it starts getting to the point where i dont think you could call that a usdm STi motor anymore. just my 2 cents....

great run.....its still got the subaru badge on it. :)

Stock USDM STi tranny

It's holding that much power on the stock tranny? That is impressive. :devil:

Finally the Big Valley STI video of the 9.7sec pass
Note: Need Quicktime player to see the video.

www.carrito.net/bigvalley/9.7sec @143.8mph Big Valley STI.mov

Gadiel

This is a stupid question, but what music do they use in this video? It's sounds hot, good driving music :cool:

Prodigy

Can't wait for the new video! The whole Big Valley team deserves these great results. Thanks for always keeping us promptly supplied with videos and results!!!

Very nice.