# Complete Valeo Xenon HID Projector Package:

If you are looking for a complete package solution for your HID needs, please consider our Valeo/Hella/Philips package. This option gives you a cost effective parts kit to replace critical H.I.D. parts that may have been damaged.

The package includes:

# (2) Valeo Projectors
# (2) Hella/Philips LVQ-212 G3 Ballasts
# (2) D2S HID Bulbs
# (2) D2S Bulb Adaptors
# (2) Ballast Covers/mounts
# (2) Ballast connectors

Price $499.00 $445.00 + shipping

I've been looking at this kit from hidplanet.com but I don't know if it will fit into an 04 housing. Does anyone know for sure? I found a thread that said it wouldn't fit in the 02-03, but I couldn't find any information about fittament in the 04-05 lights.

If anyone has done this before and has any advice or comments please speak up :)

just buy the kit from www.hidplace.com , they have a kit and full plug and play wiring harness for our 04s, good guy good product i had 0 complaints

just buy the kit from www.hidplace.com , they have a kit and full plug and play wiring harness for our 04s, good guy good product i had 0 complaints

There is a huge difference between your retrofit and what he is referring to, he is attempting to do it the right way by installing true HID projector units into his stock housings instead of just sticking rebased HID bulbs in there. This goes beyond even "apples and oranges".

just buy the kit from www.hidplace.com , they have a kit and full plug and play wiring harness for our 04s, good guy good product i had 0 complaints

One of the problems with rebased bulbs is the price. You can buy DS2 bulbs for $75 a pair and rebased bulbs are around $175 and up. Another issue is all the aftermarket kits use cheap ballast.


Jeremy

Although i don't have an answer for your exact question. I will say that these Valeo projectors are the choice of the Pro's over at HIDPLANET.com when the fitment is tight. They are only about 5.25'' long and one of the smallest and best performing projectors. I have also heard many other good things about the light output and color.

I plan to use these when i convert my 9-2X headlights. I hope someone gives you an answer about this.

Good luck!
Erich

Thanks for the replies guys. I went out and did some rough measuring. It looks like 5.25" should leave me about an inch of wiggle room. Seems pretty tight, but at this point I really want to give it a shot so I'm leaning towards grabbing them and seeing what happens.

If anyone else has some input speak up. I wouldn't mind being saved at the last minute if it turns out I'm about to embark on the impossible ;).

If you haven't already done so, pick up a spare set of used lights and do the retrofit on those. That way you won't be without lights at any time, and if things don't go well you aren't SOL.

:banana: :disco: :banana: :disco: for you! for trying something new. I wanted to do this but I didn't have the guts/time/skills?/whatever to try it out. Good on ya. -Gene

If you haven't already done so, pick up a spare set of used lights and do the retrofit on those. That way you won't be without lights at any time, and if things don't go well you aren't SOL.

Good point. I have been looking for a set of lights for my 92X to try this on for over a month. But of course it will be easier for you WRX guys. The other point is on the wiring. It's best to go directly from the battery and use the factory headlight wires for a relay. Otherwise you can damage and burn out your factory wires, this of course is due to the current during power up HID's draw.

Good luck!
Erich

I'm currently retrofitting a pair of LS430 projectors into my 05 headlights. The LS430 are the biggest single xenon headlights. They are huge and I am able to squeeze them in. I have almost no wiggle room at all and I had to hack the crap out of the OEM housing and make custom brackets to mount the projectors. But damn the output will be amazing.

I bought a used pair of headlights to do my retro so my car wouldn't be without headlights while I did this project. Also, I suggest you get a pair of Matshusheeta ballasts. They will fit the OEM mounting points on the bottom of the housing.

Let me go take some pics of my current retro. I'll post them in a few minutes.

Dave

ok,

I'm back here are some pics. This is the ballast that you want. It is the OEM ballast used by Subaru. For headlights OEM is best. These ballasts are also found on Infiniti and Nissan cars. You can get a pair over at www.hidplanet.com/forums in the "buy/sell" threads(~$150 with connectors).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/CIMG0114.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/CIMG0113.jpg

This is my test fit of the LS430 projectors into my modded OEM headlight housing with modified LS430 shroud. This is how it will look once I completely finish.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/LS430pic4.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/LS430pic3.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/LS430pic2.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/LS430pic1.jpg

Here are some pics of the cutoff of one projector:

OEM LS430:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/OEM.jpg

OEM LS430 after I swapped to a clear lense and modded the cutoof shield:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/Clear1Washer.jpg

Also, if the retro is for a wrx you should make a harness so higher voltage won't fry your $400 OEM wiring harness. My retro is for my STi so my wiring is made for the high voltage of HID.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/relaywrite.jpg

-Dave

dear lord that's awesome.

this is how it should be done people^^^

Nice work but just to be correct the HIDs don't require higher voltage from the car, it's still 12V which is converted to high voltage for the bulb by the ballast. However the wiring does need to accomodate the higher startup current drawn by the ballasts when first turned on, which can be as high as 10-15A per ballast for the first few seconds before it tapers down to the nominal operating current of just a few amps.

Good job on bringing out more color on the projectors and for sharpening up the cutoff :)

How do you modify the cutoff?

On this particular projector I just added one #8 washer to each leg of the cutoff shield. The effect is moving the cutoff shield a little closer to the bulb. For all projectors if you moving the cutoff closer to the bulb it will result in more color at the cutoff. For some projectors you just bend the cutoff shield closer to the bulb. You only need to move a shield a 1-2 mm. It is a very small amount. To much and it looks like crap.

Eaxample,

One washer added:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/Clear1WasherClose.jpg
Two washers added:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/Clear2WasherClose.jpg

Also adding a clear lense also helps a lot. OEM lense is a fresnel lense(concentric circles on the lense) Here is the result of JUST a clear lense NO shield mod.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/ClearLenseClose.jpg
You can see the cutoff and color is much more defined compared to the OEM output in the picture above.

Even though the LS430 projectors are awesome. I would not recommend anyone to use them in their retro unless they are very determined. I would recommend the TL(bixenon), RS6(bixenon), S2000(single xenon) or TSX(single xenon) projectors. The TSX provide the best bang for the buck in terms of performance of any single xenon after modding. they are only ~$200 a pair and are fairly easy to find.

Dave

Mulder- you are correct. Thanks for the clear up :)

where can you find TL projectors for 200? does that include ballasts or just the projector units?

Is their a possiblity if I can see some shots of the back?

damn man should start doin that for people ;)

where can you find TL projectors for 200? does that include ballasts or just the projector units?

Just for the projectors. You can check ebay or hidplanet.com for the projectors.

Jeremy

My above states that the TSX projectors are ~$200. TL projector are $320+ as are the S2000 and LS430's.

Does hidplanet or anywhere else sell a package like this for fit the 02-03 WRX? thanks for your msg.

No one sells a package for a particular headlight. It's up to you to measure the space you have and determine what projector you want that will fit in the space you have. When I refer to Hidplanet I'm not talking about the store. I'm refering to their online forum where members have parts for sale. That is where you can find the projectors you want. Try searching the hidplanet forums there was a few posts about a retro into the 02-03 wrx. I just can't remember what projector they used.

Dave

Mind pointing me to a howto for this? I'd like to get a general feel of how to mount the projector in the headlight assembly and seal it properly.

bump?

I don't know a lot about how HID lighting works other than it is an arc.....anyways I was wondering if there was anyway to give the "cheapo" kits a cutoff because from my understanding that's why a lot of the guys that want it done "right" don't get the retro-kit and end up doing something like this. if there was a way to "fake" or make a cutoff shield that would be 1 step in the right direction for the retro kits right? TIA

Mind pointing me to a howto for this? I'd like to get a general feel of how to mount the projector in the headlight assembly and seal it properly.

Definitely check out the forums at hidplanet. They have a "University" section that I've read is pretty good, but I haven't gone through all that much of it yet. They do have a lot of good information elsewhere in their forums, so I would imagine the University area is even better as far as tutorials and guidance.

This is the HIDPlanet "University" Section:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=21&sid=d3e7759a0ac5c740dc89e3ef9f66b623

And this some of many threads that has excellent do it yourself info: These are not for our cars, but the basic idea applies to all cars:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11427
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7676
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6638
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=289

hope this helps. When I finish my retro I will be creating a DIY for 04-05 WRX/STi. I still have to finish the passenger side light and then mount and aim my lights correctly. Updates to come as I progress.

-Dave

-Dave

This is the HIDPlanet "University" Section:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=21&sid=d3e7759a0ac5c740dc89e3ef9f66b623

And this some of many threads that has excellent do it yourself info: These are not for our cars, but the basic idea applies to all cars:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=11427
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7676
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6638
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=289

hope this helps. When I finish my retro I will be creating a DIY for 04-05 WRX/STi. I still have to finish the passenger side light and then mount and aim my lights correctly. Updates to come as I progress.

-Dave

-Dave

Hey Dave,

What is the best way to aim them properly? Do you aim them and some how secure it, then drill the necessasry 3-4 holes?

Hey Dave,

What is the best way to aim them properly? Do you aim them and some how secure it, then drill the necessasry 3-4 holes?

No, you drill the holes and mount the projectors to the reflector housing first. Then make sure the cutoff is level horizontally first. Then you aim the projector up/down and left/right. I don't have the link, but there is a website that explains how to aim your headlights properly. It's something like a 2.1" drop at 25 feet. The link is on HIDplanet somewhere.

So you full mount your projectors first. Then, aim. Then, seal headlights.

Dave

ok,

I'm back here are some pics. This is the ballast that you want. It is the OEM ballast used by Subaru. For headlights OEM is best. These ballasts are also found on Infiniti and Nissan cars. You can get a pair over at www.hidplanet.com/forums in the "buy/sell" threads(~$150 with connectors).
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/CIMG0114.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v215/dchou7/projectors/CIMG0113.jpg

-Dave

i've heard mix reviews about the ballasts everywhere i go. I would like to keep the ballasts oem like you said, but am having trouble finding the right ones. would 2005 oem infinity G35 ballasts that are used with D2R bulbs be compatible with D2S bulbs? reason i ask is because i found some for sale but just wanted to double check.

just to clarify things: D2S bulbs are made for projectors while D2R bulbs are for reflectors. and since i'm using stock wrx headlights D2S would give me better quality even though they're not projectors?

I haven't read any bad reviews about any kind of OEM ballast. Only aftermarket ballasts are prone to failure. Also, there are different varieties of Matshu****a ballasts. Make sure the ballasts you get are the ones pictured above otherwise they won't fit in the OEM headlight location. The G35 ballasts are not shaped the same as the ones above. How do I know? My brother has a G35 and I've seen the ballast.

Any OEM HID ballast will power any HID bulb, both D2S and D2R. The D2R bulbs have an extra film on the bulb to prevent glare. Since you are doing a retrofit. You will be using a projector HID which needs the D2S bulb to get optimal performance.

-Dave

thanks for answering my questions. that kind of bums me out because most ballasts i see are infinity's and sti ballasts seem to be more pricey since i'm asking on nasioc. well anyway, the ones i found were from a G35 and they looks SO similar; these really wont fit?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/wrxzboost/ballast2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v701/wrxzboost/ballast.jpg

If the you found the ballast pictured above they will fit. Like dchou said they are different mat ballast. There is the round ballast pictured above and the square ones.

I believe the STi and some the nissan ballast are Matsu****a Gen 2.


Jeremy

If the you found the ballast pictured above they will fit. Like dchou said they are different mat ballast.

so they will fit? i'm kind of consfused. did you mean my picture above?, because i found those on ebay.

so they will fit? i'm kind of consfused. did you mean my picture above?, because i found those on ebay.


I can't tell from that pic, but they should look like these. I picked up a pair for $150 :banana:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8031204755

They are the same ballasts as the ones I have pictured.

THOSE DIY MODS are looking good. I too am in the beginning stages of retrofitting my MY04 WRX headlights with hid projectors..One question, though since you guys accomplished your DIY mods. Since I am OEM non-hid, when Im done retrofitting, where can I pick up relay harness like the one posted in the previous page?? Can anyone help!!!

Thanks for looking,

Hacknslash is the moderator on HIDPlanet.com forums, but I don't know if he sells harnesses directly.

I would recommend building the harness yourself though. Its not hard (much easier than doing the retrofit) if you can solder. Also, by doing it yourself you know all the parts you used were high quailty and you'll have a better idea of how things work should anything go wrong and you need to troubleshoot. In my case I wanted to integrate my Hella supertones into the same harness, and building my own allowed me to do that.

I got all my components at

http://www.kayjayco.com/

There are plenty of DIYs online so that you can work out what components you need.

There are plenty of DIYs online so that you can work out what components you need.

including this excellent one:

HIDPlanet How to make a Professional Quality Harness (http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6612)

Hacknslash is the moderator on HIDPlanet.com forums, but I don't know if he sells harnesses directly.

I would recommend building the harness yourself though. Its not hard (much easier than doing the retrofit) if you can solder. Also, by doing it yourself you know all the parts you used were high quailty and you'll have a better idea of how things work should anything go wrong and you need to troubleshoot. In my case I wanted to integrate my Hella supertones into the same harness, and building my own allowed me to do that.

I got all my components at

http://www.kayjayco.com/

There are plenty of DIYs online so that you can work out what components you need.


Hey bro, what do I need at the website to make my own. Im down with it since I got wireloom,cold fusion soldering gun. But when I chechked out what I need at the University forum at hidplanet.com, it didnt specify what gauge wires I needed and I also I dont want to purchase all the other items just to make a relay wire harness.If you think about it, Im actually losing money just to make a under $40 relay wire harness...So I just need to be directed to a place where they sell h1 relay wire harness for HID retrofit.