Scooby Don't
09-17-2001, 10:28 PM
Introduction:
Many things in life are a compromise and this upgrade is no exception… Handling has been improved at the expense of comfort and cornering confidence.
My list of suspension mods so far:
18” Speedline GT1 wheels
225/40/18” Toyo Proxis T1-S tires
Whiteline low springs
Cusco 22mm rear sway bar
Installation:
The installation was very straightforward with no surprises. I read some posts about guys breaking the bolts on the strut tops by over torque them, but I didn't have a problem with that.
Appearance:
I think the car looks great. Most of the pictures I have seen tend to over exaggerate the fender gap issue. The front gap is still present, but I do not feel that it is in anyway offensive. To me it looks like it should have from the factory.
Handling:
First, please note that I didn’t cut the stock bumpstops and this may be having an affect on the handling. I know I should have checked before I installed the springs, but I didn’t. I have an email in with Jim at Whiteline and I’ll post an update when I hear back from him.
Turn-in has been greatly improved but is certainly not up to Tony Kart standards. The car is much flatter then it was before while dive and squat have been greatly reduced. However, there is a catch, read on…
My opinion of a well-sorted car is one that exhibits very little body movement over uneven road surfaces. It should be able to soak up many of the imperfections in the road surface without upsetting the balance of the car. After fitting the springs the car does not like bumps, big or small. Over even small/medium bumps in the road I tend to pop-up in my seat. The freeway off ramp that I take everyday has a large dip in the middle of it. Before installing the springs, the car would soak the dip up pretty well and it was mostly uneventful. The car demonstrated quite a bit of roll, but it was all fairly friendly. However, now the balance of the car is badly upset by this dip and as a result, my confidence level has been decreased. Much of this may be because the struts are bottoming on the bumpstops but that does not explain the pop over small bumps. (Any experts care to comment?) My wife joked that she will need to wear a sport bra while riding in the car now but that’s an entirely different forum… :)
Ride quality:
Ride quality is not terrible around town, but there is a serious decrease in comfort/plushness. I think a bit of that will be corrected by fitting quality/matched struts to the springs when they become available. Before I installed the springs I had no problem taking my boss to lunch in the car, but now it just feels a bit to “high schoolish” to transport adults. In case it makes a difference, I am a 29-year-old Information Technology Supervisor. The car also tends to porpoise over bumps as the struts do not appear to be able to cope with the increased spring rate.
Summary:
I am about the worse person to judge suspension upgrades because I want my cake and I want to eat it too. I want kart like handling but I also want the car to be stable and poised. I don’t mind the ride being stiff and I love to feel the road, but I also want to drive on long trips without needing a nap when I arrive. Bottom line, if I had to do it again, I would probably wait until WRX-specific struts were available or I would purchase a quality set of coilovers (DMS) and hope that the glowing praise that everyone gives them is warranted.
Before:
http://www.moylan.net/images/WRX/side.jpg
After:
http://www.moylan.net/images/WRX-Whiteline-side.jpg
More pictures of the before configuration:
http://www.moylan.net
Comments please,
Scooby Don't
Many things in life are a compromise and this upgrade is no exception… Handling has been improved at the expense of comfort and cornering confidence.
My list of suspension mods so far:
18” Speedline GT1 wheels
225/40/18” Toyo Proxis T1-S tires
Whiteline low springs
Cusco 22mm rear sway bar
Installation:
The installation was very straightforward with no surprises. I read some posts about guys breaking the bolts on the strut tops by over torque them, but I didn't have a problem with that.
Appearance:
I think the car looks great. Most of the pictures I have seen tend to over exaggerate the fender gap issue. The front gap is still present, but I do not feel that it is in anyway offensive. To me it looks like it should have from the factory.
Handling:
First, please note that I didn’t cut the stock bumpstops and this may be having an affect on the handling. I know I should have checked before I installed the springs, but I didn’t. I have an email in with Jim at Whiteline and I’ll post an update when I hear back from him.
Turn-in has been greatly improved but is certainly not up to Tony Kart standards. The car is much flatter then it was before while dive and squat have been greatly reduced. However, there is a catch, read on…
My opinion of a well-sorted car is one that exhibits very little body movement over uneven road surfaces. It should be able to soak up many of the imperfections in the road surface without upsetting the balance of the car. After fitting the springs the car does not like bumps, big or small. Over even small/medium bumps in the road I tend to pop-up in my seat. The freeway off ramp that I take everyday has a large dip in the middle of it. Before installing the springs, the car would soak the dip up pretty well and it was mostly uneventful. The car demonstrated quite a bit of roll, but it was all fairly friendly. However, now the balance of the car is badly upset by this dip and as a result, my confidence level has been decreased. Much of this may be because the struts are bottoming on the bumpstops but that does not explain the pop over small bumps. (Any experts care to comment?) My wife joked that she will need to wear a sport bra while riding in the car now but that’s an entirely different forum… :)
Ride quality:
Ride quality is not terrible around town, but there is a serious decrease in comfort/plushness. I think a bit of that will be corrected by fitting quality/matched struts to the springs when they become available. Before I installed the springs I had no problem taking my boss to lunch in the car, but now it just feels a bit to “high schoolish” to transport adults. In case it makes a difference, I am a 29-year-old Information Technology Supervisor. The car also tends to porpoise over bumps as the struts do not appear to be able to cope with the increased spring rate.
Summary:
I am about the worse person to judge suspension upgrades because I want my cake and I want to eat it too. I want kart like handling but I also want the car to be stable and poised. I don’t mind the ride being stiff and I love to feel the road, but I also want to drive on long trips without needing a nap when I arrive. Bottom line, if I had to do it again, I would probably wait until WRX-specific struts were available or I would purchase a quality set of coilovers (DMS) and hope that the glowing praise that everyone gives them is warranted.
Before:
http://www.moylan.net/images/WRX/side.jpg
After:
http://www.moylan.net/images/WRX-Whiteline-side.jpg
More pictures of the before configuration:
http://www.moylan.net
Comments please,
Scooby Don't