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Safe Drives
02-03-2006, 02:46 PM
Hi All,

I have a had a few inquiries as to Roll bar and cage kits for the Legacy over the past year. Primarily the first gen Legacy. I was just curious to see how many folks would be interested in something like this?

I was thinking that something like the Autopower bolt products that you can find in my for sale ad from the vendor forum.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=813362

http://autopowerindustries.com/Images/Street-Sport_Roll_Bar.jpg

I can have these produced of there is interest.

Best regards,

Charles buren
Safe Drives LLC
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com)
877-739-1713 toll free
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PHATsuby
02-03-2006, 02:56 PM
well, this doesnt help you, but I may be interested in one for the BE chassis:D
I know that would be super custom though, if only I had a pipe bender....

Ben

Patrick Olsen
02-03-2006, 03:20 PM
Autopower makes good stuff. I'd probably be interested, although, I too am the wrong type of Legacy. :) 2nd gen (BD) here.

Pat Olsen
'97 Legacy 2.5GT sedan

gt_drifter
02-03-2006, 10:12 PM
ditto with the BD...

im so interested i can hardly stand it. :eek:

Ikonosin
02-03-2006, 10:59 PM
BG here, and I could see having a cage :devil:

xcntrk75
02-04-2006, 12:24 AM
+4 for BD/BG (2nd Gen) body style... :D

Safe Drives
02-06-2006, 12:42 PM
Thanks to all for your comments!


I must say I love the that 2nd gen Legacy body style. If I get enough interest I'm sure we'll put together a kit for that car.

Keep the comments comeing!

Best regards,

Charles buren
Safe Drives LLC
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com/)
877-739-1713 toll free
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Russell Rogers
02-06-2006, 01:08 PM
just as long as it doesn't look like this

http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/7798/cagerear4ug.jpg

This cage looks like a joke.....

EXP1787
02-06-2006, 02:15 PM
+1 for a '95 BK wagon. Fat chance, I know. Depends on price.

Patrick Olsen
02-06-2006, 06:27 PM
just as long as it doesn't look like this

This cage looks like a joke.....
OK, I give. What about that rollbar looks like a joke? Note that I called it a "rollbar" not a "cage" - it's supposed to provide basic rollover protection, it's not a full-on FIA-spec cage. Admittedly it's not the greatest rollbar in the world - the main hoop could definitely be closer to the roof, and I wouldn't bother with the harness attachments (just wrap the harnesses around the main horizontal) - but I wouldn't say it's a joke.

Pat

xcntrk75
02-06-2006, 07:00 PM
Looks awefully low (to the driver/passenger) to me :eek:

Otherwise appears to be good construction with few bends and it appears to be gusset'ed (sp) too... :confused:

mranlet
02-06-2006, 07:42 PM
+1 to the BD/BG interest. I'd be interested in a full cage, but would want it to be build using SCCA specification (baseplates of proper size, good quality welds, proper tube thickness, etc).

I deal in Autopower bolt-in cages through www.festivegarage.com by the way ;) If this falls through I was thinking about driving to the Autopower warehouse and seeing if I can put together a 2nd Legacy "cocktail" of parts they have on shelf...

Safe Drives
02-06-2006, 09:17 PM
+1 to the BD/BG interest. I'd be interested in a full cage, but would want it to be build using SCCA specification (baseplates of proper size, good quality welds, proper tube thickness, etc).

I deal in Autopower bolt-in cages through www.festivegarage.com (http://www.festivegarage.com/) by the way ;) If this falls through I was thinking about driving to the Autopower warehouse and seeing if I can put together a 2nd Legacy "cocktail" of parts they have on shelf...

Hi,

No offence but a proper Autopower dealer would know that Autopower builds their roll cage products to the letter if the SCCA rule book. :rolleyes:

Now then if your in the San Diego area then please, by all means go to Autopower and have them build you and the Legacy community a kit. They will give you a cage for half price for the use of your Legacy so they can make a kit. They will need your car for about a week. We helped arrange a GC Impreza like that. :)

Best regards,

Charles buren
Safe Drives LLC
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com/)
877-739-1713 toll free
cburen aaaat safedrives.com

Russell Rogers
02-07-2006, 12:51 PM
Pat: That is an autopower roll bar. The harnesses mount points are not a safe angle compared to the drivers shoulders. I hope that the roll bar pictured was made for a sedan or another car andmade to fit into the wagon. The main hoop is far to low and even with roll bar padding a head would have no chance in a crash. I just think its stupid to put in a roll bar that functionally doesn't even do what it says it's gonna do. I know it isn't a cage I never said it was. But for rollover protection it's a piece of crap.

Safe Drives
02-07-2006, 01:12 PM
Pat: That is an autopower roll bar. The harnesses mount points are not a safe angle compared to the drivers shoulders. I hope that the roll bar pictured was made for a sedan or another car and made to fit into the wagon. The main hoop is far to low and even with roll bar padding a head would have no chance in a crash. I just think its stupid to put in a roll bar that functionally doesn't even do what it says it's gonna do. I know it isn't a cage I never said it was. But for rollover protection it's a piece of crap.

Mr. Rogers,

The above pictured silver wagon has a S&W Roll Bar in it, not a Autopower Roll Bar. I should know, I sold it to the pictured wagon owner.

The rest of your coments I would have to agree on though. :) I have had a chat with S&W about the hight of the Subaru main hoops, that should be fixed this week. Any owner of a S&W main hoop will be getting a free replacement if they want one. The mounting height of the harness bar is up to the installer though... I think I would add that the pictured roll bar is structuraly safer than a stock wagon as long as there is quality padding added in the head impact areas. It is low though... Lower than most scrutineering inspections would probably allow.

Best regards,

Charles Buren
SFI / RA Certified Scrutinteer
Safe Drives LLC
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com/)
877-739-1713 toll free
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Perdue
02-07-2006, 02:11 PM
I'd love to have a rollbar, but utility is also going to be a factor for me. I'd like to maintain the use of my backseat as much as possibly, as well as have a place to mount my harnesses for Auto-X. For about $279+shipping (price listed on your site for the rollbar), I could definately go for it.

If you decide to make one for the BD, then I'm in.

Edit: Sorry, just looked at the price of the street-sport rollbar with the harness bar and saw that it is around $380 plus shipping. hmmmm

mranlet
02-08-2006, 10:28 AM
Hi,

No offence but a proper Autopower dealer would know that Autopower builds their roll cage products to the letter if the SCCA rule book. :rolleyes:


I know, that's exactly what I'm saying. Their cages are 100% SCCA and DGtrials compliant, and I would want nothing less.

The Autopower-style bolt in cages have door bars that can be removed to reclaim some functionality of the front seats, but the main hoop's rear supports would probably have to stay in place for the sake of the strength of the structure.

Warp3
02-08-2006, 12:59 PM
We helped arrange a GC Impreza like that. :)

...and I, for one, am very grateful that someone did that. :D That reminds me, any word on the ship date for the recent GC/GM order batch (that I'm part of)?

No bar for the Legacy, though...gotta keep at least one of my cars in 4-seater/daily driver trim... :lol:

Shane -- SM 729

gt_drifter
02-10-2006, 12:16 AM
dear God someone just make one!!!

Patrick Olsen
02-10-2006, 12:30 AM
Mr. Rogers,

The above pictured silver wagon has a S&W Roll Bar in it, not a Autopower Roll Bar. I should know, I sold it to the pictured wagon owner.
I was gonna say, I've never seen an Autopower bar that was unpainted. Every one I've seen has been painted (powdercoated?) black, so I was 99% sure that was not an Autopower bar. Thanks for the clarification.

Pat

gt_drifter
02-13-2006, 05:48 PM
bump!!!

Patrick Olsen
02-13-2006, 10:02 PM
Just out of curiosity, has there been any effort to test-fit a GC Impreza one into a Legacy? I would imagine it would be a little small, but there's an awful lot of commonality in the Legacy/Impreza, so it might not be too bad.

Pat

gt_drifter
02-14-2006, 10:30 AM
wouldnt it be too short from front to back???

gt_drifter
08-17-2006, 06:05 PM
any progress/ news?

ive got legacy's that need roll cages and im tired of paying someone out the wazoo to custom tig one.

Safe Drives
08-17-2006, 06:16 PM
Just out of curiosity, has there been any effort to test-fit a GC Impreza one into a Legacy? I would imagine it would be a little small, but there's an awful lot of commonality in the Legacy/Impreza, so it might not be too bad.

Pat

Hi all,

Thanks for the bump gt_drifter. :)

We did have a customer put a GC Impreza Autopower Race Roll Bar into his first gen Legacy sedan. It was actualy quite tall he was quoted. In fact he had to remove his sunroof... He did think that if the legacy did not have a sunroof that it would probably work ok. This was a 4 point though. I still have no idea how a Autopower six point bolt in cage would fit... Wanna try one? :devil:

Best regards,

Charles Buren
SFI / RA Certified Scrutinteer
Safe Drives LLC
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com/)
877-739-1713 toll free
cburen aaaat safedrives.com

onefasazn
08-17-2006, 09:37 PM
I like to see a bolt-in harness bar. I dont wanna cage the wagon.

irishsetter
08-18-2006, 09:07 AM
Will this fit my 91 Leg turbo? If so what is the around about cost and what is it made out of? Would I have to can my back seat?

Safe Drives
08-18-2006, 01:17 PM
I like to see a bolt-in harness bar. I dont wanna cage the wagon.

Stand alone harness bars are not safe. As such, Safe Drives does not sell any stand alone harness bars. :) If you want a safe harnes bar get the Autopower Street Sport Roll Bar (http://www.safedrives.com/products.asp?cat=72&pg=2).
http://www.safedrives.com/prodimages/autopower/streetsport_sm.jpg (http://www.safedrives.com/products.asp?cat=72&pg=2)


Will this fit my 91 Leg turbo? If so what is the around about cost and what is it made out of? Would I have to can my back seat?

Well, as I stated in my previous responce the GC Impreza Kit by Autopower will fit the first gen Legacy but only cars without a sunroof or you'll have to remove the sunroof... In the Impreza you can keep the back seat installed but the Legacy I really have no idea (I would think so). See the above link for pricing and PM me for a shipping quote if your serious about getting a kit.

Thanks for your interest everyone!

Best regards,

Charles Buren
Safe Drives LLC
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com/)
877-739-1713 toll free
cburen aaaat safedrives.com

onefasazn
08-18-2006, 03:20 PM
Stand alone harness bars are not safe. As such, Safe Drives does not sell any stand alone harness bars. :) If you want a safe harnes bar get the Autopower Street Sport Roll Bar (http://www.safedrives.com/products.asp?cat=72&pg=2).
http://www.safedrives.com/prodimages/autopower/streetsport_sm.jpg (http://www.safedrives.com/products.asp?cat=72&pg=2)


Really? Dang it. I just wanted one to have to use at the track. I thought its better than not having one to secure my harness to?

Or is there a harness I can use without having a harness bar?

Safe Drives
08-18-2006, 03:34 PM
Really? Dang it. I just wanted one to have to use at the track. I thought its better than not having one to secure my harness to?

Or is there a harness I can use without having a harness bar?

Do a search on any auto related forum and you'll find that this subject has been beaten to death. :( The short answer is that if you want to use harnesses for anything other than autocross than at a minimum you need something like the Autopower Roll bars. Period. I do hope this helps.

Best regards,

Charles Buren
Safe Drives LLC
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com/)
877-739-1713 toll free
cburen aaaat safedrives.com

onefasazn
08-18-2006, 04:13 PM
yeah it surely helps. thanks

I guess I'm relegated to the CG Lock.

gt_drifter
08-18-2006, 04:22 PM
i can see how a gc to bc would be ok, but i dont know about a gc to bd/bg chassis. hence, my curiosity.

will i try one? if i were closer to you, id say hell yes. however, im in maine, and theres no hope of me traveling outside of new england anytime soon.

any ideas?

PHATsuby
08-18-2006, 06:12 PM
damn, this sucks I didn't realize you guys were so close to me in portland, had I known that I would have liked to get a cage or half cage done for my BE legacy twin turbo H6.:)

Ben

xcntrk75
11-05-2006, 10:22 AM
Bump.. Anybody using one of these? I'd really like the street-sport model for the BD, but only if it fits... :confused:

gt_drifter
05-02-2007, 09:16 PM
thats right, i brought this back...

xcntrk75
05-02-2007, 09:53 PM
I still stand behind my prior comments... I will buy one of these kits if available in BD Legacy fitment...

Safe Drives
05-03-2007, 02:56 PM
Hi All,

BC Legacy? The frist gen Impreza kit for Autopower will fit the BC Legacy sedan that does not have a sunroof. Sunroof car owners need to call me.

BD Legacy? :cool: I'm working on it.

Best regards,

Charles Buren
Safe Drives LLC
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com/)
877-739-1713 toll free
cburen aaaat safedrives.com

IronMonkeyL255
05-03-2007, 09:45 PM
Hmm.......

I already have half the interior ripped out......

But I do have a sunroof, and would like to keep it for at least a while longer (until I get another car for DD duty)

Aczwild
08-25-2007, 10:21 PM
Sorry to bump this baby again from the dead, but I'm in need of a full bolt in cage for my '96 Legacy GT project and I have been referred to you guys by, well these boys...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y272/Aczwild/CIMG1433.jpg

I have the full interior stripped out of the car, so I can easily take measurements to see if there is anything you currently offer that would fit the car, or if you want the measurements to relay to Autopower, I can also create and send you a CAD file with the specs of the cage, as long as you tell me where the ideal mounting points for the cage are, or would be...

Safe Drives
08-27-2007, 09:19 PM
Hi,

Please give me a call if you need more information but we do not currently have a bolt in kit available for the Legacy.

Best regards,

Charles Buren
Safe Drives LLC
www.safedrives.com (http://www.safedrives.com/)
877-739-1713 toll free
cburen aaaat safedrives.com