Shifter won't go into 1st or 2nd.

I have a TBE and some suspension mods think it will be covered under warranty. Car is brand new less than 5000 miles.

yeah, uhh, good luck with that. They will find some way to say its your fault and you will have to buy a new tranny.

Not what i wanted to hear!

sti tranny swap time

I wish i had the money you want to sell me one for a buck

Just goes to show that nothing is idiot proof.



Should have learned last night not to mess around in the snow when i slid into a curb and scratched up 2 rims, but instead i decide to go to the beach parking lot and do donut's. I broke the tranny. Now it sits in front of my friends house proabbly getting plowed under all the snow. Not a good weekend for my car

they have to prove that the mods made the car break the transmission. how is your jacked already? do you shift into 1st while the car is moving?

they have to prove that the mods made the car break the transmission. how is your jacked already? do you shift into 1st while the car is moving?
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=940102

Homey also has a reflash as well. 280hp and 345lbft will definately break a transmission if driven like an idiot. Check the above link for details.

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=940102

Homey also has a reflash as well. 280hp and 345lbft will definately break a transmission if driven like an idiot. Check the above link for details.

That homey is me

:rolleyes:

That homey is me


Yes genious, glad you are on the same page.

That homey is me


yet here you sit, trying to act like the tranny "broke on it's own"

waaaaaaaaaaaaaranty it... waaaaaaaaaaa


you modified your car
you dinked around, drove improperly and broke it
you need to pay to fix it. not subaru.

you try and warranty it :) and...
i guarantee it will be 11billionty times too obvious the tranny broke due to abuse

better get ya checkbook out.

yet here you sit, trying to act like the tranny "broke on it's own"

waaaaaaaaaaaaaranty it... waaaaaaaaaaa


you modified your car
you dinked around, drove improperly and broke it
you need to pay to fix it. not subaru.

you try and warranty it :) and...
i guarantee it will be 11billionty times too obvious the tranny broke due to abuse

better get ya checkbook out. ....unfortuantely, threads like this seem to go unnoticed when certain individuals tout their "anti-SOA" rhetoric throughout these forums.

SOA has taken good care of me...but I have not beat up on my car.

Homey, you shouldn't even have to ask.

Just goes to show that nothing is idiot proof.

It's funny how you continually dig on members without a warning or ban. This poor guy had a tranny go bad after 5k and now you are calling him an idiot? Seems pretty harsh man.

It's funny how you continually dig on members without a warning or ban. This poor guy had a tranny go bad after 5k and now you are calling him an idiot? Seems pretty harsh man. ...."poor guy"? :huh: ....did you happen to read the whole thread? The transmission didn't "just" go bad.

This guy destroyed a tranny in only 5k...

fixed it for you. Let's see, power mods which netted an increase in stock torque of almost 60%...plus driving like a hooligan.

For the record, I'm quite confident I could break a WRX tranny in less than 5K miles with stock power levels...

the wrx 5speed is a POS. Subaru justs uses it for dealor work.

...."poor guy"? :huh: ....did you happen to read the whole thread? The transmission didn't "just" go bad.


I did read it. No matter what he did to the tranny he doesn't deserve to be called names just like the rest of us. It is stil a crappy place to be to have a new car that the tranny is dead in, period. Insults never help a situation. I think it says something in the rules about flamming.

To borrow a page from the WoW playbook: The WRX 5 speed is fine, learn 2 drive. Honestly, I think most Subaru owners have played in the snow from time to time, most of them don't fry a transmission in 5,000 miles. That having been said, I think if you went to the dealer and were humble and honest they might be willing to help you out. It all depends on the dealership I guess.

With the wrong driver you can shred most transmission's in almost no time. The 6 speed is stronger than the 5 speed for sure but there's nothing inherently wrong with it.

I did read it. No matter what he did to the tranny he doesn't deserve to be called names just like the rest of us. It is stil a crappy place to be to have a new car that the tranny is dead in, period. Insults never help a situation. I think it says something in the rules about flamming.

If the original poster hadn't tried to BS about the whole issue there wouldn't be any comments...

I can't stand people trying to screw over Subaru because of their own stupidity, if people take responsibility for their actions maybe they'll learn from them.

I did read it. No matter what he did to the tranny he doesn't deserve to be called names just like the rest of us. It is stil a crappy place to be to have a new car that the tranny is dead in, period. Insults never help a situation. I think it says something in the rules about flamming. ....hondaslayer will have to comment about his own remarks, but as for pity…… I don’t have any for the OP. His transmission is “dead” by his own negligence.

CALISTIYLIN
I appreciate the sympathy.
For all the other people that have nothing better to do than flame others on the internet, I wasn't looking for pity, if you look at the first post all I had was simple question and I only wanted a simple answer.
It's pretty pathetic that there are so many people on NASIOC that have nothing better to do than flame others.

CALISTIYLIN
I appreciate the sympathy.
For all the other people that have nothing better to do than flame others on the internet, I wasn't looking for pity, if you look at the first post all I had was simple question and I only wanted a simple answer.
It's pretty pathetic that there are so many people on NASIOC that have nothing better to do than flame others. .....perhaps if you were a bit more forthcoming as to your modifications and the events leading up to your transmission's demise, things would be a bit different. Those facts are relevant and should be considered. .....to base an answer solely on the merit of your initial post would have obviously been a mistake as we can now see.

Same thing happened to me, but not because i was driving like an idiot. I was just cruisin down the highway and it felt weird. When i was trying to park, the car wouldnt go in reverse, or 1st. I got it towed, and after the they gave me the warranty speech, they took apart the engine and found that some plastic piece had broken, kept the warranty.

Good luck. Just to warn you. 1st and 2nd gears are the first things they look at when taking apart your tranny. Its around $700 or so for them to just take it apart. Not sure what you did in there but if they see 1st and 2nd synchros all to crap they will void the warranty and say you were racing the car. On the other hand, if you put on your stock exhaust it might help a tiny bit.

It's funny how you continually dig on members without a warning or ban. This poor guy had a tranny go bad after 5k and now you are calling him an idiot? Seems pretty harsh man.


Funny how you seem to have a reading comprehension issue.

I was using the term idiot proof as a generic term. If I had said bomb proof would you have accused me of labeling him as a drunkard? He did not have a tranny go bad, going bad would imply that the transmission was defective and that is simply not the case. He modified the vehicle to the point that it had 50hp and 100lbft more than the factory sent it out with, add to that driving like a "hooligan" and you have a recipe for disaster. I do not continually dig on people here, if you would do a search ( you know,that little button that allows you to research posts via username,keyword etc...) you would see that for every post that I am forced to prove somebody worng you will see 5-10 where I am helping people and offereing suggestions on how to repair their vehicles, often times it is for local people where I could have simply said bring it in and we can diagnose it for you for $$$$$. But I guess I'm just a part of the evil empire :rolleyes:


To the OP.

Chances are you will be denied coverage for this repair. The good news? Your gears are probably alright, sounds like you locked the synchros.

Let me guess, you were doing donuts, the speed got high and you decided to shift at or near redline. Might have bent the shift fork as well.

Good luck. Just to warn you. 1st and 2nd gears are the first things they look at when taking apart your tranny. Its around $700 or so for them to just take it apart. Not sure what you did in there but if they see 1st and 2nd synchros all to crap they will void the warranty and say you were racing the car. On the other hand, if you put on your stock exhaust it might help a tiny bit.


Commit fraud eh?

You do realize that by suggesting that you are an accomplice to the crime.

"I wasn't looking for pity, if you look at the first post all I had was simple question and I only wanted a simple answer"... knobby

The majority of these people are trying to help you, they are in fact extremely knowledgeable experts, however, when you start to decieve your peers, SOA, the dealership, experts, and those in similar situations you ruin your credibility...not to mention all of those in your like situation, or any type of problem in the eyes of SOA. I am in your type of situation in regards to tranny problems and lack credibilty because of someone like yourself. :huh: :huh:

Commit fraud eh?

You do realize that by suggesting that you are an accomplice to the crime.


Commit fraud? I dont believe that suggesting to re-install an oem part would be considered fraud. If so please enlighten me. I simply wrote that it might help to re-install his stock exhaust.

Commit fraud? I dont believe that suggesting to re-install an oem part would be considered fraud. If so please enlighten me. I simply wrote that it might help to re-install his stock exhaust.


A part that contributed to the failure and is removed so as to cover his actions.


What part of fraud do you not understand?

Commit fraud? I dont believe that suggesting to re-install an oem part would be considered fraud. If so please enlighten me. I simply wrote that it might help to re-install his stock exhaust. ...why would you suggest re-installing the OEM part then? .....to try and hide the fact that the modification may have been a contributing factor in the demise of the component he is trying to get covered under warranty? .......uh, yeah. :rolleyes:

Funny how you seem to have a reading comprehension issue.

I was using the term idiot proof as a generic term. If I had said bomb proof would you have accused me of labeling him as a drunkard? He did not have a tranny go bad, going bad would imply that the transmission was defective and that is simply not the case. He modified the vehicle to the point that it had 50hp and 100lbft more than the factory sent it out with, add to that driving like a "hooligan" and you have a recipe for disaster. I do not continually dig on people here, if you would do a search ( you know,that little button that allows you to research posts via username,keyword etc...) you would see that for every post that I am forced to prove somebody worng you will see 5-10 where I am helping people and offereing suggestions on how to repair their vehicles, often times it is for local people where I could have simply said bring it in and we can diagnose it for you for $$$$$. But I guess I'm just a part of the evil empire :rolleyes:


To the OP.

Chances are you will be denied coverage for this repair. The good news? Your gears are probably alright, sounds like you locked the synchros.

Let me guess, you were doing donuts, the speed got high and you decided to shift at or near redline. Might have bent the shift fork as well.

Don't you understand you're wrong and no matter what you (or I, or anyone else) says, we're wrong? We stick up for SOA so we must be wrong. We have no idea what we're talking about, we don't see this all the time. How could we know what we're talking about? :lol: :eek:

Seriously though, the OP knows he was wrong, he was just looking for that one person to say he had a chance to get a free repair so he could go into the dealer and say that "I read on the web......" (How many times have you heard that one, hondaslayer?) Otherwise he wouldn't have posted on here, and probably other forums as well, so many times (he has multiple threads on this)

Forget about it, it ain't gonna happen, and if it does, the dealer is pretty stupid, and will probably end up paying for the repair themselves, because SOA will no doubt kick it back.

wrong, right, or indifferent he flames people whether he thinks they deserve it or not.

wrong, right, or indifferent he flames people whether he thinks they deserve it or not.
Nice self-reference! You've convinced me to add another entry to my "ignore" list -- not bad for only one month on the boards. :(

Originally Posted by Timmysubie
Commit fraud? I dont believe that suggesting to re-install an oem part would be considered fraud. If so please enlighten me. I simply wrote that it might help to re-install his stock exhaust.

...why would you suggest re-installing the OEM part then? .....to try and hide the fact that the modification may have been a contributing factor in the demise of the component he is trying to get covered under warranty? .......uh, yeah.

You guys are lame. Fine. Take me to court, lets see if you win.

... I simply wrote that it might help to re-install his stock exhaust.
OK, if you're really just the babe in the woods you claim to be, how would reinstalling the OEM exhaust help fix a transmission problem? :confused: :p

I never said anything. You based it, on your assumption that i was referring to him doing that in order to help fix the transmission problem. Me saying re-install the oem exhaust might help, means that staying stock might help keep his tranny from going wrong in the first place. Im not sure how to use sarcasme effectively in such a sentance.

Dont worry armand1 you're right. But if you would like, you may still take me to court, but one, I really dont think you care enough, and 2 i really dont think you care to reply.

To the OP.

Chances are you will be denied coverage for this repair. The good news? Your gears are probably alright, sounds like you locked the synchros.

Let me guess, you were doing donuts, the speed got high and you decided to shift at or near redline. Might have bent the shift fork as well.

Thats all I was looking for I like I said, I am not here for pity and i am definatly not posting here to get flamed. I am not here to make enimies either but seriously lighten up. All this talk about fraud and court is extremely overboard. I got the answer I was looking for so thanks. But next time may i suggest don't be so damn negative people will learn easier if you can explain to them the answers they are looking for and not flaming them and telling them there screwed and they shouldn't be driving there cars in the first place.

All this talk about fraud and court is extremely overboard

^Yeah my bad, but thanks.

I never said anything. You based it, on your assumption that i was referring to him doing that in order to help fix the transmission problem. Me saying re-install the oem exhaust might help, means that staying stock might help keep his tranny from going wrong in the first place. Im not sure how to use sarcasme effectively in such a sentance. ….re-read the context of your post:
Just to warn you. 1st and 2nd gears are the first things they look at when taking apart your tranny. Its around $700 or so for them to just take it apart. Not sure what you did in there but if they see 1st and 2nd synchros all to crap they will void the warranty and say you were racing the car. On the other hand, if you put on your stock exhaust it might help a tiny bit. .....the suggestion isn’t past tense and it follows an implication that Subaru may deny his warranty based on abuse.

By the way, no one is looking to make a court case out of this. We just get tired of the same types of complaints followed by a suggestion of deceit.

Thats all I was looking for I like I said, I am not here for pity and i am definatly not posting here to get flamed. I am not here to make enimies either but seriously lighten up. All this talk about fraud and court is extremely overboard. I got the answer I was looking for so thanks. But next time may i suggest don't be so damn negative people will learn easier if you can explain to them the answers they are looking for and not flaming them and telling them there screwed and they shouldn't be driving there cars in the first place. ….and might I suggest that you just be a little more upfront about your situation next time. The “babe in the woods” tactic will typically net negative responses in these situations when it’s found that the problem was probably user induced.

the suggestion isn’t past tense and it follows an implication that Subaru may deny his warranty based on abuse.

By the way, no one is looking to make a court case out of this. We just get tired of the same types of complaints followed by a suggestion of deceit.


Totally!

I left what i wrote there, and didnt edit it because of the fact that it is read like that. ahahh If you would have heard me say it in my head it would have sounded perfect. Sorry about all the crap, i tend to get upset when im wrong. :rolleyes:

Im not a "babe in the woods" by the way. Im a trunk money :disco:

this thread is NOT about flame-fests by board regulars

it's about ppl playing hard with their new Subies, busting something, then not taking responsibility for their own actions.

nothing is warranteed against abuse. if you smacked a brick wall with your new car, would you try to place a warranty claim under the bumper to bumper clause?

just man up here -- you broke your new toy on your own, now stand up and fix it yourself. it's stuff like this that makes dealers paranoid and so quick to deny coverage to stuff that SHOULD be covered.

DG

nothing is warranteed against abuse. if you smacked a brick wall with your new car, would you try to place a warranty claim under the bumper to bumper clause?


DG


You would be surprised.

I had a woman bounce her new Forester off a curb and threaten to sue us when we told her it was not a warranty matter :rolleyes:

Honda,


Wouldn't you agree that it might be a good idea to remove an aftermarket part simply because some dealerships will use any modification as an excuse to not warranty work on a car? For example, if someone had an issue with their gearbox 30,000 miles after installing a Kartboy shifter, would you blame them for putting their OEM shifter back in?


I'm not saying going stock can't be deceptive and fraudulent, but it isn't necessarily so.

Honda,


Wouldn't you agree that it might be a good idea to remove an aftermarket part simply because some dealerships will use any modification as an excuse to not warranty work on a car? For example, if someone had an issue with their gearbox 30,000 miles after installing a Kartboy shifter, would you blame them for putting their OEM shifter back in?


I'm not saying going stock can't be deceptive and fraudulent, but it isn't necessarily so.

If you are going back to stock you are attempting to deceive the dealership and SOA. How are we to know that it was just a Kartboy shifter? Or if it was just an exhaust system? The act of deception says a lot more than the mods themselves.

Putting stock parts back on the car to get a car repaired:
1. Sometimes takes longer to properly diagnose a vehicle, especially if the problem was caused by the aftermarket part, and that part is no longer there
2. If the problem was caused by the aftermarket part, whether it is on there or not, we (at the dealer) know what does and does not cause failures. Taking the part off does not mean that the claim will automatically be covered under warranty. In fact, we would rather you keep your mods on, it shows you are being honest. We will find out if something has been on/off a vehicle. People that take things on and off vehicles usually are the ones that have something to hide. I have warrantied heavily modded cars when the mods had nothing to do with the failure.

oh look handaslayer, rexygirl, & knotsure together again..... :rolleyes:

you would see that for every post that I am forced to prove somebody worng you will see 5-10 where I am helping people and offereing suggestions on how to repair their vehicles, often times it is for local people where I could have simply said bring it in and we can diagnose it for you for $$$$$. But I guess I'm just a part of the evil empire

Just not the case. Remember what i found when i searched your name. More like for every 1 you actually prove a point on there's 5-10 of you calling user abuse. You proved it in the Raw fuel log, that is in no way a user error or abuse yet you still stood up & fought SOA's responsibililty. Even when it's proven through 38 pages to be a FAULTY PART. I guess in this largely populated existence there just isn't customer service like their used to be.

Rexy,


Generally I agree with everything you're saying, but can you honestly tell me there aren't dealers out there that will claim a modified part caused a failure on shaky ground? How about SOA? I seem to recall some new owners being told "The paint bubbling off your 2 month old car is caused by improper care".

In a perfect world customers would never screw dealers and dealers/SOA would always do right by the honest customer, but that isn't always the case.

I love my car, but will never trust SOA. I wish subaru would come out with upgrade performance packages (not a fancy race pedal) in each model. Train there techs to install and work on them, and Warranty them. They could even charge a premium. But maybe im thinking way to far outside the box.

Rexy,


Generally I agree with everything you're saying, but can you honestly tell me there aren't dealers out there that will claim a modified part caused a failure on shaky ground? How about SOA? I seem to recall some new owners being told "The paint bubbling off your 2 month old car is caused by improper care".

In a perfect world customers would never screw dealers and dealers/SOA would always do right by the honest customer, but that isn't always the case. .....of course not. There are always exceptions. However, if we focus on the issue as it pertains to this particular case, it’s obvious who is at fault and that removal of his modifications would be blatantly deceitful (more so since they are relevant to the issue).

Rexy,


Generally I agree with everything you're saying, but can you honestly tell me there aren't dealers out there that will claim a modified part caused a failure on shaky ground? How about SOA? I seem to recall some new owners being told "The paint bubbling off your 2 month old car is caused by improper care".


Yes, unfortunately you are correct, there are dealers out there that do this, but they are not supposed to and should be reported, the proper way...(Call SOA, rep, etc)

I admit, I used to decline warranty claims on cars that had problems if the car was modified at all. Boy, did I get chewed out....got told what the proper policy was, etc, etc....but that's because someone went thru the proper channels and let Subaru know what happened, and SOA took care of them, because I was wrong. I know better now and take every car on a case by case basis. Otherwise I would have no customers/job, etc. People in SE FL know, now, that if they have a problem, I will help them when I can. Some things are still out of by control...

Oh, and where is Knotsure? Haven't seen 'em on here yet..(maybe it's the pain meds, who knows) :confused:

Subaru doesn't have some of the most loyal customers (according to JD Powers) out there by screwing them over. If that was the case, they would be out of business...

oh look handaslayer, rexygirl, & knotsure together again..... :rolleyes: ....oh look. ....another "anti-SOA" rhetoric-spouting troll. :rolleyes:

....oh look. ....another "anti-SOA" rhetoric-spouting troll. :rolleyes:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :banana: :lol: :lol: :lol:
you're a troll

:lol: :lol: :lol: :banana: :lol: :lol: :lol:
you're a troll


So says the guy that seems to forget that a few of the supermods also work at dealers and do not appreciate comments like yours.......

So says the guy that seems to forget that a few of the supermods also work at dealers and do not appreciate comments like yours.......
then when a faulty part is placed on a vehicle....recall it. :banana:

edit.. what would make you think i forgot that people working for SOA & dealerships read these boards? Why would i post up the things I have if i didn't think they would be heard by the "evil empire".

02dark - leave me out of your whine please? Can you only say negative? You bought a used car from a non-dealer and have an issue, yet you pick on the dealer folks here that have helped others (myself included). I get it. You don't like those of us that like our cars and you don't like dealer folks. Just move on, will you? My only comment on this was that the OP's post above mine struck me as a bit clueless. Sheesh.

By Folk, do you mean Folk SOA

Oh and uh real men dont drive foresters, old men do. Not an insult. Just a matter of taste.

I own an 04 WRX and it shifts beautifully. Are we not supposed to shift into first if the car is still rolling? I do but the car is going less than 10mph. Also, can someone clarify exactly how to drive these cars if people keep destroying the trannies. Thanks. :D

The gears can be notchy

I own an 04 WRX and it shifts beautifully. Are we not supposed to shift into first if the car is still rolling? I do but the car is going less than 10mph. Also, can someone clarify exactly how to drive these cars if people keep destroying the trannies. Thanks. :D ...here's a good article from Unabomber that might help:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=587096

Some folks have a problem engaging 1st on a roll and others don't. I believe the above article may cover that and a possible work-around (dbl clutch/rev-matching).

By Folk, do you mean Folk SOA

Oh and uh real men dont drive foresters, old men do. Not an insult. Just a matter of taste.


Yet a stock FXT will walk a stock WRX off the line..... :confused:

Stock FXT ran a 13.8 quarter mile
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=6854&page_number=4

And there are a bunch of Foresters out there that will leave an STI in the dust.

Yet a stock FXT will walk a stock WRX off the line..... :confused:

Stock FXT ran a 13.8 quarter mile
http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=3&article_id=6854&page_number=4

And there are a bunch of Foresters out there that will leave an STI in the dust.


Not mention that I can put a dishwasher in the back, something I cannot do in our impreza.

Not mention that I can put a dishwasher in the back, something I cannot do in our impreza.

Don't forget pulling all of the WRX's and STI's out of the snow (pulled 4 out at the last ice race. Never once got stuck)

And still got the 2nd fastest time to a Rally Prepped RS with studded tires.

Don't forget pulling all of the WRX's and STI's out of the snow (pulled 4 out at the last ice race. Never once got stuck)

And still got the 2nd fastest time to a Rally Prepped RS with studded tires.


I have not had to pull any Subies out yet, but I have had to pull my neighbors SRT-4 out of his front yard a few times :lol:

....oh look. ....another "anti-SOA" rhetoric-spouting troll. :rolleyes:

It's funny how you guys call people the same names I was banned for. Try to get your point across without flamming. I am not Anti SOA, I just believe they do what they can to not have to shell out any of their profit back. It's all about money and if they can legally get out of repairs, they most likely will try. I had to spend half and hour explaing and showing them in my book that wipers were covered, gal darn wipers, nothing expensive yet they still wasted half an hour of my time trying to aviod the work. You guys can label me however, if it makes you feel better it must be right :D

It's funny how you guys call people the same names I was banned for. Try to get your point across without flamming. I am not Anti SOA, I just believe they do what they can to not have to shell out any of their profit back. It's all about money and if they can legally get out of repairs, they most likely will try. I had to spend half and hour explaing and showing them in my book that wipers were covered, gal darn wipers, nothing expensive yet they still wasted half an hour of my time trying to aviod the work. You guys can label me however, if it makes you feel better it must be right :D The quote you referenced was my sarcastic response to another member’s comment (hence my reference to his quote). …..sorry if you felt I was labeling you..

The experience you mention is subjective and results will vary depending on the dealer. Personally, I’ve had nothing but good experiences regarding warranty issues with the dealers I’ve dealt with (wear items included). ….SOA didn’t tell you that your wipers were not covered (your dealer did). It’s good that you had your book with you to prove them wrong.

It's funny how you guys call people the same names I was banned for. Try to get your point across without flamming. I am not Anti SOA, I just believe they do what they can to not have to shell out any of their profit back. It's all about money and if they can legally get out of repairs, they most likely will try. I had to spend half and hour explaing and showing them in my book that wipers were covered, gal darn wipers, nothing expensive yet they still wasted half an hour of my time trying to aviod the work. You guys can label me however, if it makes you feel better it must be right :D


Banned and came back with a different username?


Hope Jamie sees this.

Banned and came back with a different username?


Hope Jamie sees this.

hahaha :D

She will because you will report it. She will ban me, and guess what, I'll be back. It doesn't matter anyway, I gauruntee I won't lose sleep over it. Btw, read your post. You sound like a little kid. :D People can't oppose your view so you just tell on them?


Actually I see no need to report it, I'm sure one of the mods that has already chimed in will read it.

BTW your username was banned, repeat offenders generally get an IP ban.

Actually I see no need to report it, I'm sure one of the mods that has already chimed in will read it.

BTW your username was banned, repeat offenders generally get an IP ban.

hehe :)

02dark - leave me out of your whine please? Can you only say negative? You bought a used car from a non-dealer and have an issue, yet you pick on the dealer folks here that have helped others (myself included). I get it. You don't like those of us that like our cars and you don't like dealer folks. Just move on, will you? My only comment on this was that the OP's post above mine struck me as a bit clueless. Sheesh.

now my comments are whines? & now i get the 'just move on'.....
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (i almsot pissed myself) what's the matter you made it very clear in the fuel log that it's an open forum & we're all allowed to spew our thoughts anywhere. now that doesn't apply because i'm just a lowly scoob owner who was solicited by a non suby dealer & happened to have one on their lot? that's nice.

you obviously don't get it. or you can't read more than a few lines without spouting off a comeback. I never once said one bad word about the local dealer i have dealt with. in fact i have more than once pointed out how helpful they have tried to be. yet somehow you take my digust for your little group here on the internet as a dislike for 'dealer folk'? get over yourself. i have a dealer in the fam & know what they are like personally. i've also worked at one in the past. so, my remarks toward your group & SOA are not toward the dealer community as a whole. again, get over yourself.

adding... also, what does a used car have to do with a faulty part. faulty is faulty whether used or new. the friggen thing shrinks in the cold. first owner or eleventybillionth owner, the part was faulty from the factory. no amount of use caused it to be failing. /hijack. sorry OP, point made i'm gone. :banana:

now my comments are whines? & now i get the 'just move on'.....
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (i almsot pissed myself) what's the matter you made it very clear in the fuel log that it's an open forum & we're all allowed to spew our thoughts anywhere. now that doesn't apply because i'm just a lowly scoob owner who was solicited by a non suby dealer & happened to have one on their lot? that's nice.

you obviously don't get it. or you can't read more than a few lines without spouting off a comeback. I never once said one bad word about the local dealer i have dealt with. in fact i have more than once pointed out how helpful they have tried to be. yet somehow you take my digust for your little group here on the internet as a dislike for 'dealer folk'? get over yourself. i have a dealer in the fam & know what they are like personally. i've also worked at one in the past. so, my remarks toward your group & SOA are not toward the dealer community as a whole. again, get over yourself.

adding... also, what does a used car have to do with a faulty part. faulty is faulty whether used or new. the friggen thing shrinks in the cold. first owner or eleventybillionth owner, the part was faulty from the factory. no amount of use caused it to be failing. /hijack. sorry OP, point made i'm gone. :banana:

You have an 02 RS, the fuel rail issue was with the WRX which uses an entirely different rail. What part of that do you not get?

I am not sure what happens, but things sure go south quickly in email land. By the way, what ever happened the the OP :huh:

If we can all dish out real facts, and all of the details that pertain to our particular situation; mods, driving style, location, problems, maybe even age, interest;s...we can all learn from each others situation, and some of those in the know can help. Those who have gone throught certain situations, SOA if their reading, dealership folks if they are reading, experts ( there are many on here ex. Jamie ) can dish out some great advice. Or at least shed some light on something the indivdual has not thought of.
Slinging mud helps no-one...

I am not directing this at any one person, I myself am learning to be more helpful as opposed to standing on a pedestal slinging away.

Thanks for all of your time.

go ahead and try and get me here, it's the interweb mang.