hey guys after going through the limited information on the ej5-40t and finding very little graphs on pump gas, much less 91, i decided to give it a try.

my mods are as followed:
high flow pannel filter, stock air box
ebay tmic *scooby* version (no fitment issues)
dc sports catless uppipe
stromung catless divorced wastegate downpipe
maddad 3rd cat delete non tapered
hks high power exhaust
ej5-40t turbo with ported wastegate
850cc stock modded injectors

1st off i would like to thank Dan for the awsome tune, ive got an ear to ear grin just driving around, enjoying the new power band, especially down low.

2nd, i must get this out, the turbos wategate design is such that you MUST port it if it is not already done so, otherwise the boost creep is pretty bad, i wasted a trip to the tuner only to be told that the boost creep was too uncontrolable and must be ported. i dont have any logs of this, dan may provide some i think if requested.

once that was taken care of, i took it to dan@harman motive for some tuning, and i couldnt be any more happier. he gave me a reliable tune, which is what he is best known for, and being on 91 i couldnt be happier.

275whp/250tq at 17psi.
http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e356/rezs2jen/marcus.jpg

dispite all the crap i had to go through to get this turbo, and get it tuneable, i have no regrets in picking htis turbo, and sticking to it. it spools fast, hits hard, and holds boost till redline. dan explained to me everything that was going on with the car, letting me know that an 18psi could be done, he could see something like 260tq and i believe 280hp?, but that he considered it to be an aggressive tune being that we only have 91oct to play with. he told me that it does in fact spool faster than a vf34 and that all in all he was pretty impressed and happy with the results, and the turbo.

i walked in expecting to get make the most reliable power, and dan provided just that. highly recommended tuner.

as for the turbo, out of the box the main issue was boost creep. from my understanding my tuner could not control boost under 20psi that it would always hit that high, he recommended a port and it resolved the issue. after that, this turbo has no problems seeing boost early, and holding it, in my opinion, it is the perfect match for the 2.0L for a daily driver/auto x. all around i couldnt be happier.

Hey bro... would u mind giving me a ride in ur car, i c that u are located in 909 ; )

When does it begin to spool? when does hit hit peak?

i got this same turbo and i want to c it ; )
but ill be using a fmic for it

sounds liek a good turbo. Any dyno graphs? When do you get full boost?

hey thran! sure thing man. come to scic, inland impire meet
we have weekly wed meets as well about 15 min away from where you live.

i dont have my boost graph yet, i requested it from dan so i may post it along with the hp/tq graph, but my boost gauge starts to see boost just before 3krpms, i want to say 2.8 but that may be because it was just nice and cold last night. but i see full boost at 3.2-3.3 dont quote me on that untill i get my boost graph though. it holds that till about 5k then tapers to 1.2bar and holds it all the way to 7200, that part im well familiar of :)

i will post graph once i get home, or when dan emails me one with the boost graph, which ever comes 1st. my tune is less than 24 hours old sorry

i dont have my boost graph yet, i requested it from dan so i may post it along with the hp/tq graph, but my boost gauge starts to see boost just before 3krpms, i want to say 2.8 but that may be because it was just nice and cold last night. but i see full boost at 3.2-3.3 dont quote me on that untill i get my boost graph though. it holds that till about 5k then tapers to 1.2bar and holds it all the way to 7200, that part im well familiar of :)

Nice :cool:

graph added. i used my camera phone to snap this for now, ill post a better one once dan sends it to me along with the boost graph.

Marcus gave me a ride in his car last night when we were at the meet. I was very impressed with his set up. Tons of power done low and top end was nice as well. Very strong all around. Congrats again marcus. see you at the next week.

Well have to have Dan film us making a few runs to show the difference in power. Enjoy having the most power, after I get my 18G well see what happens. :banana:

lol, i told you man, be happy if you hit 280whp on 91. and if that you may have 5 over me, but ill still have ya all over the low end ;) check my post on the i.e thread charlie. regardless, looking forward to your tune as well

nice 40t is definitely a west coast 91 oct turbo....im impressed

thanks :D

i have this turbo on my sti and love it--the torque is amazing--it is tough getting one though.

dave

i have this turbo on my sti and love it--the torque is amazing--it is tough getting one though.

dave

Big 16g.. You can get them from anywhere..

EVO3 16g.. You can get them from anywhere..

fixed

Big 16g.. You can get them from anywhere..

tdctuning.com has a ton of them

tdc tuning is where i baught mine and where my troubles have started. i requested tracking info and never got it, i had to call tdc for 2 weeks straight to even get a confirm that it was shipped, it wasnt untill i pm'ed tdc saying that if i dont get it withing the 3rd week, i would need a refund. at that point i only got a verbal confirmation that it was shipped, but still no tracking number. i have contacted other members here on nasioc and only 2 responded, both of them stated a similar problem with tdc.

tdc tuning is where i baught mine and where my troubles have started. i requested tracking info and never got it, i had to call tdc for 2 weeks straight to even get a confirm that it was shipped, it wasnt untill i pm'ed tdc saying that if i dont get it withing the 3rd week, i would need a refund. at that point i only got a verbal confirmation that it was shipped, but still no tracking number. i have contacted other members here on nasioc and only 2 responded, both of them stated a similar problem with tdc.

Why haven't you started a thread on this in the Vendor Review section then?

can you show a pik or link to exactly which ebay TMIC you bought thanks

certainly, this is the link when i won mine

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8025178540&category=33742

its a perfect fit, i didnt have to move any ac lines, had 3/4 inch clearance to the closest contact point of an ac line. for reference, do not go by the pictures under INSTALLED PICS, those pictures are the older version, the y pipe is incorrect there, as the turbo inlet is a hard pipe, and the brackets are the older versions, the end takes are larger and incorrect. again only the pictures above installed pics are accurate.

i would contact that vendor and ask him for this specific tmic since i do not see it listed. make sure the brackets are square and not c shaped, and it comes with the y pipe, stock y pipe will not fit.

cool thanks i know which one than the ssautochrome xspower current version. i was watching one from one of the guys on nasioc and about to bid but he was nice enuff to cancel the auction and sell it on here 2 someone instead right b4 the auction ended. :rolleyes:

lol, if you see one i recommend picking one up asap, my tuner had nothing but nice things to say about it, and i dont see them around as often as i did back in december

thats cool that harman gave it good comments. i wont say which main distributer/vendor was outright bashing the ebay intercooler with his sales pitches. if you believed him it was stupid.

on a side note did you get your injectors cleaned balaced blah blah, and did the tuner have any issues with modded stockers.

Wow this thing does well on the STI block too? I would think it'd be tiny.

cheers

garrett

i baught these injectors as an advertised matched set. all were 850cc, one was 849cc. the work was done by witchhunter, cleaned and flow tested, the matching was done by the person i baught it off of. the tuner said that the injectors were "tricky" but that it wasnt a problem. i had asked him the same question, and would upgrading these in the future be a good idea. he assured me they worked fine and that wouldnt be neccessary.

as for the tmic, a core is a core, the older ebay models had fitment issues, and a few stripped threads, thats not the case with this version, as it comes with y pipe, y pipe gaskets, its also the 1st one ive seen that comes with the ss hose tubing. also, i think i forgot to mention that it fits on both stock mounting brackets, which is really great. theres no grounds for any vendor to bash this product

Wow this thing does well on the STI block too? I would think it'd be tiny.

cheers

garrett

tuner said it wouldnt have a problem holding 20psi, may i see the sti's graph, im interested to see how well it did

My 40T has the same problem with controlling boost under 20psi. Andy never saw the problem prior to me and Brian @ Momentum said he's never saw/heard of it either. It was suggested that porting the hotside would fix it, glad to hear someone has had time to do this and it truly does solve the problem.
Your numbers seem a little low though, not sure if you wanted it that way or what, but this turbo is capable of quite a bit more. Have fun with it!

this is a conservative tune, being limited to 91 oct. we uped the boost 1 psi and saw 10 more tq and 10 more hp but it was considered to aggressive at that point for 91. i have seen 18g's put down 280 on this dyno on 91 so its pretty impressive to my standards.

I tried to get one of these from TDC tuning and gave up. I ended up going with a ported forced performance TD05-18G. I was dissuaded from purchasing one of these turbos because of Momentum's poor customer service. I emailed them for over a month without a response. Just out of curiosity, where did you get it ported and how much did it run you? Have you ever been able to communicate with brian@ momentum?

its funny you mentioned that. i have sent a dozen emails to momentum and to this day, not one response. their website has no address, no tel number. i dealt with tdc who shifted the blame on momentum. that was the most uncomfortable vendor experience ive dealth with to date.

That discomfort (having to deal only with TDC) along with a discussion from another vendor who used to sell Momentum turbos influenced me to change my mind about the momentum turbo and to invest in an FP product. I'm glad to hear you're finally having good results with it though. Hopefully you won't have any warranty issues.

yah, i did take a risk picking one of these things up. but for what it offered, quick spool hold till redline, i couldnt find a better alternative being limited to 91 on a 2.0. i just feel the wrx doesnt have the tq to back up lag, im just happy my faith in the turbo alone yeilded positive results.

actually i had the same problem with tdc tuning i never got the turbo till like 3 weeks after purchase and i forced a refund for injectors and pumps about 2 months later because i kept on getting bs excuses, and momentum never responds to emails it seems either ; (

glad to c the turbo i await to get mine in with a fmic ; )

nice numbers. nice to hear the scooby ebay tmic works and looks good. Its about time they got it right....and yes it is stupid that the vendor kept ebay tmic bashing w/o any experience, proof or numbers.....

I love the bull **** stories people share

FACT: I ship all my turbos from momentum, he ships them for me
i dont keep them physically in stock.

When i placed the order with them i assumed they would get shipped
apparently they werent in stock @ the time.

THRAN
YOU wanted me to ship you modded injectors with NO gaurantee of the cores being returned,
i told you i couldnt do that and i refunded you promptly upon you asking for the refund

BIGG SEAN:
According to the PM i have you were gonna let me know what you were doing, the last PM i have is from you telling me you were going to harman motive.......



i have a hard time contacting momentum as well
if you saw the # of PM i have about Momentums you would ****
i havent sold any in a while because I KNOW they are not in stock
soon as they come in i have a list of people to email and notify.
Its 1000x easier than taking a payment and having people email and call and IM incessantly and whine every 2 seconds,
when after i make a payment to an MFG i cant control what happens.

If you wanna pay FULL PRICE from other vendors who sell them go ahead
or save a few bux ($100++) and wait a week or 2 for brian to ship it to you .

Bigg Sean- How much did you pick up your 18G for? I'm looking into that same turbo and wanted some feedback. What numbers are you putting down? What EM are you running? Ovreall expierence? Thanks for the info.

I think a TD06- 18G would be good on a 2L as well

Bigg Sean- How much did you pick up your 18G for? I'm looking into that same turbo and wanted some feedback. What numbers are you putting down? What EM are you running? Ovreall expierence? Thanks for the info.

I just ordered it last week so it isn't on yet. It's currently being assembled by FP. It ran me under $1100 for a ported TD05-18G, complete gasket set, and braided steel oil lines. I'm running a cobb AP and will have it protuned by Harman Motive in southern cali when I get it. I decided to go this route because of the existance of data out there that proves this is a worthy turbo capable of putting these cars into the 12 sec 1/4 range. Not to mention I won't have to worry about warranty issues with a company like Forced Performance. I really did have my heart set on the momentum turbo but decided I should just spend some more money and buy it from somebody who I knew I could rely on if there ever was an issue. I'm in sales myself, and customer service and the reputation of your company that you work for really go a long way. The guys at FP were very helpful in helping me pick my turbo. Call me crazy, but I like to talk to somebody over the phone (try doing that with Brian @ momentum) or via email before I dump a considerable amount of money on a purchase like this. I just didn't want to end up with a $700 paperweight.

yea i know about the injectors, but then again u never told me about the core, u seem to forget to tell the customer everything, and 2 months waiting for a refund isnt a proper refund, im saying what happened, and a personal experience nothing more and nothing less

i really dont feel like posting or talking about this, unless u want me too

im aware u had some "issue" and im stating the fact, u might be a great guy, and do everything local perfect but i dont think shipping and sales online is tdc thing as of yet

Im gonna warn you

i use to be a big supporter of the 40T when evceryone hated momentum

My car made over 300WHP and 300WTQ with the 40t, i sold my 03' WRX and after less than 6K miles total, the turbo seized up

and i have seen others do the same within the last month.

So, it appears the speculation about reliablility is tru, they dont hold up

mind showing me threads of this? do you know if the warranty kicked in or not? thanks

This jsut happende Friday, so i ahve to call on Monday to see of Momentum is going to do anything.

dang, sorry to hear that, please give me more info when you get it as to why it siezed up if its repairable/rebuildable etc

im aware u had some "issue" and im stating the fact, u might be a great guy, and do everything local perfect but i dont think shipping and sales online is tdc thing as of yet

hate to break it to you, but the only people with issues as of late are the 40T people.
i sell bucketloads of Accessports every day, they are easily taken care of because cobb is on the ball about this stuff and are always available.

Unfortunatly momentum is not
I do what i can to help people out
and get thier stuff to them ASAP
thats AS SOON AS POSSIBLE

Sometimes its not POSSIBLE for someone to ship it the same day
hence why i wait till i KNOW they are in stock now before i allow orders
OR i tell people 7-10 days on one.

You can blame me all you want but i simple took payment from you and FWDed it to momentum thats it im simply the middle man since brian wont deal with the public, mostly because of this.

Again if this is an inconvenience for people
Buy an 18G that you need to wait for from deadbolt
(deadbolt usually has a backlog too, i waited 8 days for a 20G to be built for a customer) I sell deadbolts too.

That is all

hate to break it to you, but the only people with issues as of late are the 40T people.
i sell bucketloads of Accessports every day, they are easily taken care of because cobb is on the ball about this stuff and are always available.

Unfortunatly momentum is not


And therein lies the problem for me at least. You were a nice enough guy to deal with and I believe you sincerely tried to accomodate me as best as you could, but the fact remains the manufacturer (or supplier I should say) is a less than stellar company to deal with. If I were you I would stick to selling deadbolt or forced performance products in the future to avoid having angry/dissapointed customers.

so is this thing more than likely to take a dump or what, tdc what have you been seeing with the costomers you have dealt with and tuned?

i have yet to seea problem, LOTS of them sold LOTS of miles on allof them all seem to be quite fine. Proper installation Priming and breakin is a good idea. since it will affect the lifespan

Food for thought:

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?p=12749144#post12749144

bigboosting when did u buy ur 40t?

My 40T has the same problem with controlling boost under 20psi. Andy never saw the problem prior to me and Brian @ Momentum said he's never saw/heard of it either. It was suggested that porting the hotside would fix it, glad to hear someone has had time to do this and it truly does solve the problem.
Your numbers seem a little low though, not sure if you wanted it that way or what, but this turbo is capable of quite a bit more. Have fun with it!

Mine boost creeps also. I wish I would have ported the waste gate.

bigboosting when did u buy ur 40t?

i think i bought the turbo in september '05

Brian told me there was a bad batch delivered damaged due to assembly. I don't know how many, if they went out to customers, or if the customers were even notified.

I am quite irritated with Brian as well. He shipped me the wrong turbo, then asked if I could forward it "overnite" to the correct customer. He stated a few times(which I have documented) that he will reimburse me the funds($89.21) and admitted that he owes me big time! Everytime I email him about it, he reads the emails but doesn't respond. I can't believe he would actually screw me for helping him save face with his customer. Oh well, live and learn....

Jon(TDC), is there any help you can give me here?

6000 mile mark since day of install, 4000 was tuned mileage. no problems as of yet. just putting it out there for fyi.