Trying to figure out what to replace the crappy RE92s with. Especially since they're getting WAY too low on tread for the current driving conditions here.

Daily commute involves ~20 miles (each way) of two-lane twisties (nothing straight for more than 1/4 mile at a time). Hwy 9 for those in the Bay Area.

Tires need to be all-year tires:

Summer - 100*F, nice and moderately sticky for driving, not looking for as much grip as my KDW2s on my "other" car.

Winter - Rain, lotsa lotsa rain, with occaisional snow/ice (it snowed this weekend at my place, snow + twisties == fun!!) mainly for going to Tahoe for ski trips.

Which is the "best buy", do you think? I'm pretty torn between the BFGs and the Neros. I'd prefer something non-directional, to make rotating easier, but at least with the same size tires front/rear, a front/back swap can be done with directionals.

Oh, and I'd like to get some decent mileage out of the tires. Super-soft is fun, but it gets expensive after a while. Looks like around 20K yearly on the car, and I'd like to try to get 30K+ out of the tires. Might not happen, but we put 10K on the stockers after we picked it up with 35K on the clock, and wore off the remaining 30% of the tread. Although, the RE92s were poor enough in traction that we weren't getting full grip in a lot of turns....

check out the avon tech m550's... :cool:

Avon Tech M550's (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Avon&tireModel=Tech+M550+A%2FS)

Very happy with the P-Zeros here in NY, excellent in dry/wet/light snow. Don't know how they would hold up in deep snow as they aren't really made for that, you can't expect a high-performance tire, even an all-season M&S, to handle the worst winter conditions.
I previously had Dunlop SP-5000s and I find the Pirellis to be much better.
FYI my P-Zeros are 225/50/16 on 16x7 Slipstreams, and at 20K they still have plenty of tread and look nearly new.

I've had both the KDWS and the Pzero Nero M&S (what I have currently).

I would take the Pirellis hands down. The KDWS has a slightly stiffer sidewall which gives them marginally better turn in, but the Pirellis obliterate them in every other category. Wet grip, dry grip, snow grip, warm grip, and cold grip.

I wouldn't consider the Pilot Sport A/S unless you get a lot of snow and have money to burn.

check out the avon tech m550's... :cool:

Avon Tech M550's (http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Avon&tireModel=Tech+M550+A%2FS)

Wow, talk about killer ratings at Tire Rack.... That's impressive, especially for $80/each.

Nokian WR on my WRX.....so far so good in Colorado winter and SoCal summer. A little soft on the sidewall but absolutely very good during winter and rater about 45k miles. I also have a 06 forester with OEM tires right now and you can tell the difference when driving the snow---very sloppy and I do not feel too confident driving in severe snow weather.

Wow, talk about killer ratings at Tire Rack.... That's impressive, especially for $80/each.

the whole story about the avon company is a good read.

Avon History (http://www.avontyresusa.com/history.html)

IIRC - these tires were designed 100% via customer feedback at the tirerack.

i have a set of these on my FXT - (215/55/ZR17's) - and after 15K of spirited daily driving through one new england winter and a hot texas summer - these tires still have the 'nubs' on the side of them.

this set is going on my wife's car now - and i ordered another set for a different set of wheels that will be going on my car tomorrow. you can't go wrong for the price.

i've owned pzero nero's too. (had a set of 225/45/17's on my wagon.) those tires are good too...but i can't say that they were any better than the avon's for an all season.

hope this info helps... :)

i had pirelli nero m&s tires on my '02 wrx (225/45r17) which i put on after my falken azenis's (also 225/45r17) went bald. they were awesome, no problems whatsoever. i'm going to be getting a set of the pirelli's again, for when my sti's stockies get worn.

Thanks for all the help. Got the PZero Neros on Monday. MUCH better than the RE92s. Although I also discovered that they had worn somewhat unevenly, and clear through to the cords on the inside of the tread. Starting new thread about that...

A/S M+S = Squirm in the Summer.