Hey guys. First off, this is not another whose better DC or Kingpin. Since this is my daily driver I don't mind paying a little more. Also, I'm not trying to get peak power just a reliable safe and powerfull tune. Currently I have catless UP with TBE on an 05 WRX. What kind of numbers are others seeing out there....

In addition, I know the EcuTek is like 600. How much kind of additional money am I looking at for a specific dyno tune. Is DC on here?

Thanks,

Dustin

It is funny how everyone thinks Dynocomp tunes more conservativly then we do.. Just becasue the car is making more power does dont mean it is overly agressive, or even close to the edge. Everytune that leaves here is relable and safe.. We take everycar off the dyno, and onto the road to finish things up, and make sure everything is runing correctly, because afterall you drive your car on the street everday, not the dyno..

Anyway back to your question. You should see about 220-230whp. Ecutek is $650 for the wrx, i am not sure of Dc's dyno rates, or hourly tuning rate so i can't comment..

Dave-

It is funny how everyone thinks Dynocomp tunes more conservativly then we do.. Just becasue the car is making more power does dont mean it is overly agressive, or even close to the edge. Everytune that leaves here is relable and safe..
Dave-

Thats fair Dave and I appriciate your input. I was simply repeating what I have heard on the form. I appologize if it was incorrect. If you don't mind (PM if you would like as well) what makes people say this statement, and why is it not true. Thanks for the input!

Didnt mean to offend you, I just want the best of all areas ;) (Don't we all)

Thats fair Dave and I appriciate your input. I was simply repeating what I have heard on the form. I appologize if it was incorrect. If you don't mind (PM if you would like as well) what makes people say this statement, and why is it not true. Thanks for the input!

Didnt mean to offend you, I just want the best of all areas ;) (Don't we all)

No worries man:) Just wanted to set the record straight..

Alright, topic is done. There seems to be no conservative tune as long as the engine is running fine. At this point it just becomes who is more cost effective and closer. If anyone else wants to add antying go for it. I just don't want to have another one tuner is better than the other, please only factual information. :banana: :banana: :banana:

With those parts (+K&N filter & Modified stock intake), my 2002 did 231 awhp. Right on Chronic's prediction above.

remember, dc's dyno reads a bit lower than the others in the valley. so you'll probably see closer to 218-220whp i'd guess. Also, if your interested in Cobb, Surge will be starting on Pro tunes next week.





www.9and3.net

I have a Utec for sale with two protuned maps if you want.
mods: intake, full catless exhaust, put down 235whp
$550

DC has "power packages" with numbers on their webpage.

youre probably looking at around $900 total My sti was $1000 or so but the ecutek is more expensive for a STI. I would guess 210WHP

In all honestly I would hold off on the ecutek for now, I have and I do like, but now that cobb has the pro/street tuner I personally think its the best EM on the market as it has all the ups of the ekutek, with the availability of multiple maps. If they made a JDM compatible version of the accessport I would be all over it.

i had my 02 tuned at DC with up/tbe, drop in filter and tmic and i got 229whp.

Did DeltaDash ever come out with the ability to adjust the tune for ECU-Tek rather than just monitor?

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i had my 02 tuned at DC with up/tbe, drop in filter and tmic and i got 229whp.

wow, when i had Dynocomp tune my 02 WRX a little more than 2 years ago with the same mods, Richard only got me 203 peak awhp. When Richard saw that i lived in Las Vegas he said he would tune it a little more conservitave due to the different elevation/climate, and the fact that i didnt live in AZ if there was a problem, but i didnt think it was that much.

When getting your car tuned, it is up to you to state what you want. If you want a conservative tune, what ever that is, then just ask for it. I know it seems obvious but many people miss this fact.

Did DeltaDash ever come out with the ability to adjust the tune for ECU-Tek rather than just monitor?


Yup. You can make changes to fuel, boost, timing etc., but you can't reflash the ECU without the pro software. Any changes you make will be lost if you reset the ECU or somehow lose battery power.

I have my own opinion on which tuner in the valley is "safer," but suffice it to say that a Knocklink is your best friend no matter who tunes your car. Changes in weather, fuel, and numerous other factors will always produce knock, no matter how bulletproof the tune is. Just be clear with your tuner what you want and you'll probably get it. I told Richard I wanted to drive the car hard for 100K miles when he tuned my 02 WRX. When I traded it in, it had 80K on the clock and had seen lots and 80+ drag passes and lots of road course time. The clutch didn't make it to 100K, the tranny was getting pretty tired, but engine compression was spot-on and my latest oil analysis indicated better than average wear. That to me is worth far more than what I was charged at DynoComp.

My .02

It is funny how everyone thinks Dynocomp tunes more conservativly then we do.. Just becasue the car is making more power does dont mean it is overly agressive, or even close to the edge. Everytune that leaves here is relable and safe.. We take everycar off the dyno, and onto the road to finish things up, and make sure everything is runing correctly, because afterall you drive your car on the street everday, not the dyno..

No, it's not funny, this is just a result of peoples experiences. We all know who's better and KP employees should not be the ones on here defending their cababilities. If you were in fact really good all your happy customers would be on here giving KP props not you.

It really depends on if you prefer to use an ASE certified mechanic or a "garage" mechanic who tunes by the seat of the pants feel. You also have to ask yourself if that extra 10 wheel HP is worth the long term consequences.
This isn't bashing, just a fact. Do some research. Bottom line is, Richard has some impressive credentials from real world, big name companies. Mike has credentials from his family and friends. Touch choice huh?

I think it is time for some popcorn!

I think it is time for some popcorn!

Or IBTL

Subaru of America may warn me for this but I feel compelled to put more than two cents into this thread. Every aftermarket tuner in our market has substantial credits and experience, at least the ones mentioned here. The owner of the vehicle has the responsibility to maintain and drive their car, be it Mitsu or Subie or other manufacturer, in a resposible manner. Any factory can and will deny warranty requests if the car presents evidence of aggresive or race result driving. I've seen it countless times. If you ask a tuner shop to give you everything the car can handle then you must ask yourself whether you can deliver everything the car can provide with your driving skills. The Subarus that I sell are meant for daily driving and some weekend fun, BUT... they are not intended, nor will the warranty cover any stupidity imposed upon them by inexperienced drivers or improper and excessive over-modifications. I would suggest to any owner that they read the warranty brochure provided at purchase completely. While we all drive one of the best designed and manufactured vehicles on this or any planet, you have to take care of it or you're on your own! That's my ninety five cents!

i think most of us that spend thousands of dollars on our subarus, are intelligent enough to a)know what the suby brochure states b) know the warranty is in jeapordy with any modification.

i think most of us that spend thousands of dollars on our subarus, are intelligent enough to a)know what the suby brochure states b) know the warranty is in jeapordy with any modification.Werd! Anything that breaks that is stock, most people here would upgrade to aftermarket anyways! All we need is an excuse to buy more goodies! Now if my stock turbo would fry up.... :devil:

Nah, I am going to spend 5K in BOV and CAI then throw a GT35 kit, blow the engine and put everything back on and say it just went out in a school zone.

If something breaks that is independent of any modification done, I would expect SOA to fix it. Period. If something breaks because I added more Powah then, its my fault and I will fix it.

No, it's not funny, this is just a result of peoples experiences. We all know who's better and KP employees should not be the ones on here defending their cababilities. If you were in fact really good all your happy customers would be on here giving KP props not you.

It really depends on if you prefer to use an ASE certified mechanic or a "garage" mechanic who tunes by the seat of the pants feel. You also have to ask yourself if that extra 10 wheel HP is worth the long term consequences.
This isn't bashing, just a fact. Do some research. Bottom line is, Richard has some impressive credentials from real world, big name companies. Mike has credentials from his family and friends. Touch choice huh?
I give clark props. ase means next to nothing.and knock link is your best friend. amen.

lol just dont bring your car to dynochip, They`ll blow the ****er up like mine!!!

I give clark props. ase means next to nothing.and knock link is your best friend. amen.

It's been posted in other threads a few times that Clark isn't at KP anymore. Is this true?

it is indeed! not affiliated, not working, and from what I have seen and heard not talking too either but I may be wrong on the not talking part I dunno.....

Just remember when you have it "tuned your car should be running right. Don't get reflashed then start adding a bunch of power mods like I have seen in the EVO community. If you plan on doing it right, do it right the first time and it will save you $$$ down the road. Just my .02.

it is indeed! not affiliated, not working, and from what I have seen and heard not talking too either but I may be wrong on the not talking part I dunno.....

Let me guess. Great tuner affiliated with a not so great shop. I always knew Clark as a stand up honest guy. I often wondered how long he would stick around KP. After all he had to see 1st hand day to day what we all talk about on here. I'm surprised he associated himself with them as long as he did.

it is indeed! not affiliated, not working, and from what I have seen and heard not talking too either but I may be wrong on the not talking part I dunno.....

i heard this too. No need to fall on your face hard because of a company's bad business.

if its true, then great. wish him luck else where

well as long as you get put on hold and hung up on then call back and no one answers your car should run just fine cause chances are your going to go somewhere else. but lets not turn this into another one of those threads.