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dug-e-fresh
03-03-2006, 10:14 PM
Just got back from the track tonight... I got a new personal best with my 18 month old set-up and 12 month old untouched TXS C16 tune. Previously it had been 11.35-11.39 @ 123-125.33 mph.

Tonight I managed 11.2 @ 127.7 with a 1.78 sixty foot. My best sixty for the night was 1.690, but I couldn't get it all together for one run. I am SURE I could get 11.0-11.1 @ 128 mph out of it. A few more weight reductions... GTSpec subframe, STi control arms, driveshaft shop shaft... and it may do the trick :D

I had to short shift 2nd and 3rd... for some reason it was breaking up above 7600 rpms... so I was shifting around ~7500. Can't really complain though... can I? ;) I just put new plugs in, so I may need to re-gap them.

Only major difference from the previous best runs is I went wingless... and no passenger seat.

The Andrewtech PPG dogbox was working flawlessly.... coupled to mikaust's used single plate RPS/ACT clutch combo.

Summary (based off a camera phone pic I took thats abit blurry, if there are corrections that need to be made, I will make them... rest assured, the 1/4 info is 100% accurate down to the thousandths):

60- 1.783
330- 4.87? edit to 4.877
1/8- 7.379
mph- 97.60 edit to 97.68
1000- 9.584 or 9.524 edit to 9.514
1/4- 11.290
mph- 127.73 (30 mph on the back half!)

Basic Setup:
'02 WRX
EJ207 (100% factory stock)
Off the shelf SZ49 w/8cm exhaust side
Full exhaust
38mm tial
TXS UTEC
MRT FMIC
Stock MAF
Modded WRX injectors
Single Walbro 255

Stock cams, stock intake manifold, stock exhaust manifold.

Weight reductions:
Pass seat, rear bench, no spare, Braille Batt., and a few other odds and ends... oh and I am wingless now. With me in it, the car weighs about 3200lbs (I weigh 250lbs). I have a CF hood now, too... but its actually heavier than stock. 1/4 tank of pure C16.

Thats about it... oh yea... I dyno'ed 452 (last year) on that oh so high reading Turbo XS dyno... 128 traps.... 450 wheel... yea, thats way off, lol!

def

pux888
03-03-2006, 10:20 PM
Nice run man, you must be driving the hell out of that car!

bunot
03-03-2006, 10:22 PM
get rid of the stock ex. manifold. that thing weighs like a brick.

beecha91
03-03-2006, 10:27 PM
Always dress to impress Doug, Hope to be right there with you when the car gets done :devil:


Don-

wrxtremeWGN
03-03-2006, 10:31 PM
update your location! great times always setting the bar. you are my poster boy for buying a ppg dogset i just need to complete my bank robbery plans..

mnavarro
03-03-2006, 10:34 PM
Damn awesome times... you are the man.

555ideways
03-03-2006, 10:43 PM
How many passes do you have on that setup def?

Thats pretty sweet. You make it sound so easy. It's refreshing.

-Paddy

kcook
03-03-2006, 10:49 PM
bah! im an idiot... i totally misread all of that

VVV thanks

wrxtremeWGN
03-03-2006, 10:52 PM
sz49 8cm and 38mm tial

Oi8ur5.0
03-03-2006, 11:01 PM
Way to represent. !!!

Shows what our good powerplants can do mated with good gearing.


:eek: :banana: :eek:

goofywrx
03-03-2006, 11:05 PM
Good times. I will hopefully be at Cecil on Saturday the 18th. Are you gonna be there?
ken

ImprezaRSfan!
03-03-2006, 11:08 PM
wow. are u powershifting

Seeing StaRS
03-03-2006, 11:11 PM
amazing times Doug

kx02wr
03-04-2006, 12:32 AM
correct me if i'm wrong dogshift geardox is designed to be powershifted

gregfeder
03-04-2006, 12:44 AM
Congrats! I'll be at Xotic next week for a retune then its time for Cecil, I'll definitely be hittin you up for advice trackside!

Greg

happasaiyan
03-04-2006, 12:45 AM
as always, you are a beast. :)

gpatmac
03-04-2006, 12:47 AM
Golly! Congrats!

midnite_wrex
03-04-2006, 12:54 AM
kickass doug! i heart spec c :)

MARKGSTI
03-04-2006, 01:03 AM
Congrats :)


I have been getting a few people tryyin to get me to go wingless as well...this makes me think they are right.


Again, awesome job :banana:

LA MURGA
03-04-2006, 01:39 AM
:D great job man,and i dont have that sbframe in mi wagon his weight is 32 lbs you have job to do take down that frame and go for the 11.00 @130 :D

TypeC
03-04-2006, 02:05 AM
Off the shelf SZ49 w/8cm exhaust side
To me, that's the amazing part of all of this: that you're running that quick and fast on such a small turbo. I mean, that is a TOTALLY streetable setup you have.

What turbo is next? Surely a GT3052 or SZ55 will get you that 10.x you desire.

burnin4
03-04-2006, 02:54 AM
wow! saweet times! that's crazy, stock block and sz49 running 11.2's :eek:

Scoobie Steve
03-04-2006, 03:00 AM
I am dissapointed.....still no 100mph 1/8. Keep trying ;)

petawabit
03-04-2006, 05:03 AM
crazy times you have there Doug. Quite the impressive driving. Good luck! I'm sure we'll see 10's in the next week or so :lol:

dmross
03-04-2006, 08:35 AM
There are about a billion proven power braggers that could use a good lesson from you! ;)

Nice effing run!!!

mikaust
03-04-2006, 09:33 AM
Doug ran 5-6 times. he ran consistent low 11's. He did not flat shift on all of the runs. The 11.2 run was a damn near perfect. The car sqatted and then it was gone. His driving is second to none, but then again it has to be because he only got 452whp from the uber high reading Turboxs dyno. ;)

Stock motor, Deadbolt shelf turbo, Andrewtech PPG gears,Turboxs tune and a 250 lb driver (he does not look it).

One thing that Doug did not mention was his boost to start the evening was set around 28 pounds and on the later runs 29.5 to 30, he did not turn it up to his race gas dyno setting of 32 because of the problem above 7700 rpms.

You have to love the stock ej207.

Amazake
03-04-2006, 09:36 AM
Why not just trim the oem subframe? I assume you only have it on to support the FMIC.

Nice run! I am getting excited for NED.

MARKGSTI
03-04-2006, 10:37 AM
To me, that's the amazing part of all of this: that you're running that quick and fast on such a small turbo. I mean, that is a TOTALLY streetable setup you have.

What turbo is next? Surely a GT3052 or SZ55 will get you that 10.x you desire.
Not always bigger is better..there are many problems that come from running larger turbos....cost...breaking more parts...building boost off the line...holding boost between gears..and a narrow power curve are just a few.

NOS maybe needed to properly run a bigger turbo with a 2.0l IMHO.

Def has a real nice setup currently.

But its easy to get caught up in the "arms race" on the intraweb... :lol:

BTW did you ever run a FP red beforehand?

MTS
03-04-2006, 02:27 PM
Congrats my man! Your car has even more left in it I'm sure. :)

-Rob

InfamousDX
03-04-2006, 02:43 PM
Doug... impressive as always. Take that 49 lb. turbo to the max!!!!!!!!!!!

stu
03-04-2006, 03:40 PM
Nice times, But I like your trap speed better.

Agile Auto
03-04-2006, 05:55 PM
Great driving Doug! That thing is a beast. I can't wait to see that thing run when I finally get my car to the track. We'll all have to go up to Cecil one night. Hopefully you can teach me how to launch. ;)
-Hill

mike05sti
03-04-2006, 07:28 PM
Nice driving Doug, now we all need to get together and go to this years WRX/EVO shoot out and take some names. :devil:

dug-e-fresh
03-05-2006, 03:39 AM
Thanks everyone for all the great comments... its really appreciated!

I'll post back when I have time for a better reply.... again, thanks!

def

cronic
03-05-2006, 03:56 AM
Nice times Doug... I love the fact that 2 years later, you are still one of the faster times around here, and using such a basic set-up..

I can't wait to see a 10.99 outta that...

spooln04
03-05-2006, 05:16 PM
nice, gotta love that dogbox

sponaugle
03-05-2006, 06:53 PM
Very very cool. I really want to get a gearset of some kind, as the JDM 6 speed is NOT a good match for the H6 that drops off torque above 6500rpm.

Nice driver and tuning. Congrats!

Jeff

Bundyboyz
03-05-2006, 09:57 PM
really wish I would of made it up... I'll be up there next friday if your up for it...

and wow that kicks ass

WRXRallyBlue
03-06-2006, 04:32 AM
Sweet times, def :cool:

You really do set benchmarks in the community and we can all appreciate that. Don't let that get to your head, though! :lol: I think the reason I like you is because despite your Subaru success you remain level-headed and down-to-earth.

Congrats again,
Rob

spoolindc2
03-06-2006, 04:39 AM
Those are some impressive times and your setup is simple yet extremly effective!!!! Keep up the great progress, it would be amazing to see you break into 10's~~~

ride5000
03-06-2006, 08:47 AM
you say stock maf... is it in a stock diameter tube?

it looks like that 49lb compressor is capable of quite a bit more air.

i'd love to see a utec log 1 of these runs, doug... hint hint! :devil:

nice driving :banana:

ken

dug-e-fresh
03-06-2006, 10:20 AM
Nice run man, you must be driving the hell out of that car!



I am trying... hehehe, still get some things I can do to clean up the shifts and what not.



get rid of the stock ex. manifold. that thing weighs like a brick.



Thought about it... would like to find something lighter and something to give me more topend WITHOUT sacrificing the spool. I guess if I coat and wrap a set of equal length headers, that might fit the bill.



Always dress to impress Doug, Hope to be right there with you when the car gets done

Don-


Good luck with your ride!


update your location! great times always setting the bar. you are my poster boy for buying a ppg dogset i just need to complete my bank robbery plans..



Updated! Yea, those gearsets are worth their weight in gold, lol! That, and Andrewtechs craftsmanship ;)


Damn awesome times... you are the man.


Thanks!


How many passes do you have on that setup def?

Thats pretty sweet. You make it sound so easy. It's refreshing.

-Paddy



Friday night I had 7... 2 the previous Friday and maybe 15-20 other C16 passes last Summer ranging from 11.3-11.9 or so. I completely missed the fall season last year.



bah! im an idiot... i totally misread all of that

VVV thanks


Didn't catch what you wrote...


sz49 8cm and 38mm tial



Correct.


Way to represent. !!!

Shows what our good powerplants can do mated with good gearing.


EJ207 RULZ all! :) The gearing is pretty good, too ;)


Good times. I will hopefully be at Cecil on Saturday the 18th. Are you gonna be there?
ken



Saturday the 18th... I'll have to make that a date. Not sure how many passes the officials will let me make though. They gave me 1 more after the 11.2 last friday...


wow. are u powershifting


Nope... flatshifting (using the clutch, but not letting off the gas which is software assisted with the UTEC). I still have to work on my 2-3 upshift. This gear change is CRITICAL to the 1/8th mile and thus the 1/4, I have yet to give it my all.


amazing times Doug


Thanks Joe!


correct me if i'm wrong dogshift geardox is designed to be powershifted


I am not sure that they are designed for that persay,... the thing is you can do it and they will take the abuse. The best person to answer that would be Andrew.



Congrats! I'll be at Xotic next week for a retune then its time for Cecil, I'll definitely be hittin you up for advice trackside!

Greg


Let me know when... perhaps Sat March 18th?


as always, you are a beast.



I know, I know... I just need to lose some weight!! j/k


Golly! Congrats!


Thank you.

def

dug-e-fresh
03-06-2006, 10:20 AM
kickass doug! i heart spec c



You and I both...


Congrats

I have been getting a few people tryyin to get me to go wingless as well...this makes me think they are right.

Again, awesome job



I have ran wingless before and can't really comment as to how effective removing it is for increasing trap speed... all I have for ya is 125 traps in June w/wing and 127+ traps in March w/o wing... the car does seem abit more "darty" on the highway... but then again, it has been windy around here lately.


great job man,and i dont have that sbframe in mi wagon his weight is 32 lbs you have job to do take down that frame and go for the 11.00 @130

Yea, #1 on my list is the GTSpec subframe... that thing is a work of art! Stronger, lighter, gorgeous... and priced reasonably well. How can it be wrong? :)



Quote:
Originally Posted by dug-e-fresh
Off the shelf SZ49 w/8cm exhaust side

To me, that's the amazing part of all of this: that you're running that quick and fast on such a small turbo. I mean, that is a TOTALLY streetable setup you have.

What turbo is next? Surely a GT3052 or SZ55 will get you that 10.x you desire.



TypeC


Hmmm... this is my dilemna. I am not really sure I WANT to go with a bigger turbo. The SZ49 has been awesome and exceeded my expectations darn near everytime I take her out. The balance of power, spool and just overall flexibility with this turbo IMO is unmatched by anything I have seen on a EJ20... so, with that said, I've considered an FPRed, SZ55, SZ60 or enven and SZ65... I am just not convinced yet that it will actually make me faster.


wow! saweet times! that's crazy, stock block and sz49 running 11.2's



:D Indeed... I am stoked!


I am dissapointed.....still no 100mph 1/8. Keep trying



I hear ya Steve... lol, I hear ya. It's that 2-3 shift... I am just not shifting it confidently. I have some bushings and a plan to have the interlockers "adjusted" and we will see what that does for my confidence ;)


crazy times you have there Doug. Quite the impressive driving. Good luck! I'm sure we'll see 10's in the next week or so




Not so sure about a week or so... or 10s for that matter... but, I do feel the set-up has more in it. We will see...



There are about a billion proven power braggers that could use a good lesson from you!

Nice effing run!!!


The only lesson I see... don't get a turbo TOO big for your goals. Big turbo's are HARD to drive. Every gear change becomes so much more critical keeping those big suckers on full boil... the margin for error is reduced by the square root I tell you!


Doug ran 5-6 times. he ran consistent low 11's. He did not flat shift on all of the runs. The 11.2 run was a damn near perfect. The car sqatted and then it was gone. His driving is second to none, but then again it has to be because he only got 452whp from the uber high reading Turboxs dyno.

Stock motor, Deadbolt shelf turbo, Andrewtech PPG gears,Turboxs tune and a 250 lb driver (he does not look it).

One thing that Doug did not mention was his boost to start the evening was set around 28 pounds and on the later runs 29.5 to 30, he did not turn it up to his race gas dyno setting of 32 because of the problem above 7700 rpms.

You have to love the stock ej207.


YEs, Michael... gotta love the STOCK EJ207. Anyone short of a 10 sec drag car (assuming I don't get a 10 sec pass, hehehe) doesn't need anything more than a stock EJ207, a fell matched turbo (SZ49/Green), good tuning and a well built/geared drivetrain. I know the EJ207 in general is a 10 second motor... whether I get it there remains to be seen. Point is... why spend $4k+ on a sleeved shortblock if your not gonna be shooting for 9s!?


Why not just trim the oem subframe? I assume you only have it on to support the FMIC.

Nice run! I am getting excited for NED.


The subframe I am speaking of is the U-brace that ties in a lot of stuff under the car. Steering/engine cradle, control arms, unibody, etc, etc. You can't simply trim it. But, the GTSpec piece I am talking about will replace it. I am sooo looking forward to getting this piece!


Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeC
To me, that's the amazing part of all of this: that you're running that quick and fast on such a small turbo. I mean, that is a TOTALLY streetable setup you have.

What turbo is next? Surely a GT3052 or SZ55 will get you that 10.x you desire.

Not always bigger is better..there are many problems that come from running larger turbos....cost...breaking more parts...building boost off the line...holding boost between gears..and a narrow power curve are just a few.

NOS maybe needed to properly run a bigger turbo with a 2.0l IMHO.

Def has a real nice setup currently.

But its easy to get caught up in the "arms race" on the intraweb...

BTW did you ever run a FP red beforehand?


Never ran an FPRed on mys set-up... considered it. Mikaust has it on his car... which is virtually the same set-up as mine otherwise. We were able to eek out 125 traps from his 110% full weight car (ie- subs, amps, STi wing, front lip, etc, etc.).


Getting the car really dialed in... I think his car has 127+ traps... and with some weight reductions, possible 130-131.

I agree though... anything bigger becomes a real problem getting the most out of it. I'd say a 35 shot is a must.... and if I am gonna have to do that to maximize the turbo... I might as well stay where I am and just add a 50 shot... ya know?


Congrats my man! Your car has even more left in it I'm sure.

-Rob


Thanks Rob, lets get that VP buy-in rolling!!



Doug... impressive as always. Take that 49 lb. turbo to the max!!!!!!!!!!!


Thats my intention. I wanna rework the intake tract abit... really, I need to clean the damn filter. Last time I saw a filter this dirty, it was pulled off and replaced and the car made 25-30 whp more!!



Nice times, But I like your trap speed better.


Yea, I really liked that too... it made me wanna see a 128 though, lol!


Great driving Doug! That thing is a beast. I can't wait to see that thing run when I finally get my car to the track. We'll all have to go up to Cecil one night. Hopefully you can teach me how to launch.
-Hill


Thanks Hill... glad to help you learn the car. I wishI had some video... the were some concerned parties at the track over all the sparks shooting out from under my car, lol... that clutch/flwyheel was taking a beating!!

The 6spd probably is gonna hold you back abit... but your sixty foot times should be better. Perhaps you too can make it March 18th to cecil?


Nice driving Doug, now we all need to get together and go to this years WRX/EVO shoot out and take some names.

[/quote}

Thats the hopes :devil:

[quote="cronic "]
Nice times Doug... I love the fact that 2 years later, you are still one of the faster times around here, and using such a basic set-up..

I can't wait to see a 10.99 outta that...


10.99... whew... I'll have to bring everything I have... and then some! Maybe though... maybe;)


nice, gotta love that dogbox


Yep... gotta love the dogbox.... gotta love the EJ207... gotta love the SZ49... the hard parts that make it happen.


Very very cool. I really want to get a gearset of some kind, as the JDM 6 speed is NOT a good match for the H6 that drops off torque above 6500rpm.

Nice driver and tuning. Congrats!

Jeff


Hmmm... yea, that is a problem. Perhaps the 6spd dogbox gearing is what the doctor ordered? At least the 6spd would keep you into the powerband abit better. I bet you its fun around town...


really wish I would of made it up... I'll be up there next friday if your up for it...

and wow that kicks ass


Thanks!


Sweet times, def

You really do set benchmarks in the community and we can all appreciate that. Don't let that get to your head, though! I think the reason I like you is because despite your Subaru success you remain level-headed and down-to-earth.

Congrats again,
Rob


The way I see it, I am not doing anything that can't be duplicated... I just wanna see MORE people do it! :)


Those are some impressive times and your setup is simple yet extremly effective!!!! Keep up the great progress, it would be amazing to see you break into 10's~~~



Keep it simple... and optimize. Thats the way you get'er done. :) 10s, well let me get an 11.0 or even an 11.1 before we jump ahead ;)

In a perfect world... she's got it in her. But as mikaust stated, it was almost a perfect run. I have some left on the launch... I have a little left on the 2/3 shift... gotta clean up the revs 7600+ (I am pretty sure its the plugs).... and then get those last batch of weight reductions... all together on paper that SHOULD get me there... but I've ALMOST been "there" on the stock turbo (13.0s, but no 12s), on the VF36 (12.0s, but no 11s) and now if the trend continues.... hehehehe... 11.0s, no 10s. Lets hope my history doesn't repeat itself! lol!

def

dug-e-fresh
03-06-2006, 10:26 AM
you say stock maf... is it in a stock diameter tube?

it looks like that 49lb compressor is capable of quite a bit more air.

i'd love to see a utec log 1 of these runs, doug... hint hint! :devil:

nice driving :banana:

ken

Stock MAF and the TXS Big MAF housing.

It very well could be that the problem I was having over 7600 was a MAF overflow issue... eh, who knows. I am pretty sure I am on the limit of what the MAF sensor can read.

I need to be better about logging... I hardly ever do unless I have an issue... this night out I forgot my laptop.

def

AndrewtechAutomotive
03-06-2006, 11:21 AM
Wow, good time Doug! You gotta get back in here to fine tune that interlocker. If I can get you a faster 2-3 (wich we can) your time can come down even more. Great job Doug, your da man.
Andrew Yates

dug-e-fresh
03-06-2006, 12:02 PM
Wow, good time Doug! You gotta get back in here to fine tune that interlocker. If I can get you a faster 2-3 (wich we can) your time can come down even more. Great job Doug, your da man.
Andrew Yates

Thanks Andrew... anytime you are free, let me know. I think Michael said something about this Wednesday? That would be awesome!!

def

burnin4
03-06-2006, 12:02 PM
when can we see some videos :) ??? I'm sure you'd like to break into the 10's with the 49, but I vote for you to go ahead and get the 55 :banana: Instead of running high 10's you can cruise into the 10's (theoretically). although, sometimes going with a bigger turbo doesnt necessarily make you faster, just gives you more potential to go faster.

soon2bblackongold
03-06-2006, 12:43 PM
congrats at the time and good luck with the 10's

nmyeti
03-06-2006, 01:21 PM
Doug, Nice job

2 letters for you

NX

A 50 shoot shot just about do it. :)

dug-e-fresh
03-06-2006, 02:03 PM
Doug, Nice job

2 letters for you

NX

A 50 shoot shot just about do it. :)

hehehehe... we shall see perhaps ;)

def

jblaine
03-06-2006, 09:37 PM
"and no passenger seat."

:furious:

Put that thing back in! :lol: We haven't been watching your times for frickin ever to see you remove your passenger seat finally ;)

Congrats.

dug-e-fresh
03-07-2006, 09:48 AM
"and no passenger seat."

:furious:

Put that thing back in! :lol: We haven't been watching your times for frickin ever to see you remove your passenger seat finally ;)

Congrats.

hehehe... I am not even sure that it made a difference... its only 40lbs. In the past I've found it inconclusive ;)

def

mikaust
03-07-2006, 10:53 AM
Did you eat the hamburger before or after the 11.2 run? :lol:

dug-e-fresh
03-07-2006, 11:27 AM
Did you eat the hamburger before or after the 11.2 run? :lol:

I believe I ate that just after the 11.2... it twas a celebration burger. Remember, I bought you 1 for once too... lol!

btw- why do you still post here? this is NASIOC Proven Power. I mean, you still have an Impreza (the "I" in NASIOC)... but its nothing proven and its surely not powerful.

And I don't wanna hear how your 30k mile 2.2 wagon pulls my 170k mile 1.8 wagon... all I know is my 2.0 WRX pulled your 2.0 WRX... and then you sold it... lol! hehehehehe :devil:

def

mikaust
03-07-2006, 12:18 PM
I believe I ate that just after the 11.2... it twas a celebration burger. Remember, I bought you 1 for once too... lol!

btw- why do you still post here? this is NASIOC Proven Power. I mean, you still have an Impreza (the "I" in NASIOC)... but its nothing proven and its surely not powerful.

And I don't wanna hear how your 30k mile 2.2 wagon pulls my 170k mile 1.8 wagon... all I know is my 2.0 WRX pulled your 2.0 WRX... and then you sold it... lol! hehehehehe :devil:

def

Yes it did pull me at first. At the time I had a passenger in my car, the full interior while running the (100) pump gas tune while you were on the C-16 race gas tune. Funny when the passenger got in your car I seem to remember seeing your headlights in my rear view long enough to pull into your lane. :D

dug-e-fresh
03-07-2006, 12:37 PM
Yes it did pull me at first. At the time I had a passenger in my car, the full interior while running the (100) pump gas tune while you were on the C-16 race gas tune. Funny when the passenger got in your car I seem to remember seeing your headlights in my rear view long enough to pull into your lane. :D

thats what happens when you start with the headlights in the mirror AND get the kick AND gave me the passenger. That was a 400 lb swing. -200 from you, +200 lbs for me. :devil:

Lets go again... no passengers. Both C16. Both 32 psi. I'll pick you up a drum today from VP ;) We can do it tonight. :lol:

def

mikaust
03-07-2006, 01:01 PM
thats what happens when you start with the headlights in the mirror AND get the kick AND gave me the passenger. That was a 400 lb swing. -200 from you, +200 lbs for me. :devil:

Lets go again... no passengers. Both C16. Both 32 psi. I'll pick you up a drum today from VP ;) We can do it tonight. :lol:

def
Oh I forgot, I short shifted and had to hold the gold fish bowl so they would not pop out. :) Can I take out the sub, amps, interior, tools wing etc. this time? Ain't my car no more.... maybe you should try my next one. As for the 200 lb swing he was in my car too and yes I kicked it first but you were fading ....fast.

AudiTTkiller
03-07-2006, 01:09 PM
get down to 200 pounds

mikaust
03-07-2006, 01:13 PM
get down to 200 pounds

We would but we would have to amputate.

dug-e-fresh
03-07-2006, 01:39 PM
Oh I forgot, I short shifted and had to hold the gold fish bowl so they would not pop out. :) Can I take out the sub, amps, interior, tools wing etc. this time? Ain't my car no more.... maybe you should try my next one. As for the 200 lb swing he was in my car too and yes I kicked it first but you were fading ....fast.

Right... he was in your car and I rolled out. Then we put him in my car and we were dead even. That makes a 400lb swing when you take the 200 out of one and put it in another. If we left him on the side of the road... it would have been a 200 swing.

Sounds like I am talking about Jason as if he were disposable baggage... lol!

Anywat, you can take out whatever you think you need to take out ;)

You had sub, amps, interior, tools and wing... true.

BUT, you have lighter wheels (11.5 vs 16.5 per wheel = 20lbs= sub and tools), aluminum control arms vs my steel ones (~2-3 lbs each maybe= 6lbs= amps) lightweight headers vs my iron pieces (~2-3 lbs= stuff), JDM alumin. front bumper support vs my modded steel USDM support and a race radiator (~5lbs= more stuff)... hmmm maybe not worth too much, but surely enough to offset some.... and you weigh less than me, unless I amputate my 3rd leg.... which ain't happening... :cool: hehehe

I bet race weight there's maybe 100-150 lbs between the cars. With us in the,... well, lets just go weigh them as is tonight!

And as for fading fast... both Jason and I disagree. Jason was surprised you got over being so close ;) And you know Jason... it's his car now, I am sure he'd much rather it had pulled me badly.

def

ps- of course I'll try the next one. the question is, whose gonna be trying more? :devil: :devil:

mikaust
03-07-2006, 01:59 PM
Right... he was in your car and I rolled out. Then we put him in my car and we were dead even. That makes a 400lb swing when you take the 200 out of one and put it in another. If we left him on the side of the road... it would have been a 200 swing.

Sounds like I am talking about Jason as if he were disposable baggage... lol!

Anywat, you can take out whatever you think you need to take out ;)

You had sub, amps, interior, tools and wing... true.

BUT, you have lighter wheels (11.5 vs 16.5 per wheel = 20lbs= sub and tools), aluminum control arms vs my steel ones (~2-3 lbs each maybe= 6lbs= amps) lightweight headers vs my iron pieces (~2-3 lbs= stuff), JDM alumin. front bumper support vs my modded steel USDM support and a race radiator (~5lbs= more stuff)... hmmm maybe not worth too much, but surely enough to offset some.... and you weigh less than me, unless I amputate my 3rd leg.... which ain't happening... :cool: hehehe

I bet race weight there's maybe 100-150 lbs between the cars. With us in the,... well, lets just go weigh them as is tonight!

And as for fading fast... both Jason and I disagree. Jason was surprised you got over being so close ;) And you know Jason... it's his car now, I am sure he'd much rather it had pulled me badly.

def

ps- of course I'll try the next one. the question is, whose gonna be trying more? :devil: :devil:

Didn't we weigh your RS wheel versus mine and found out there was only a pound difference? There was more then enough room face it Doug you were fading seriously.... seriously enough that you did not have to let up because I was pulling you. :devil: Was I running the same boost level? No. Was I on the race gas tune? No. Do I have an up pipe leak? Yes.

I raced you to see if I could hang with you.... I did that. If you want to race try Jason. its his car.

dug-e-fresh
03-07-2006, 02:26 PM
Didn't we weigh your RS wheel versus mine and found out there was only a pound difference? There was more then enough room face it Doug you were fading seriously.... seriously enough that you did not have to let up because I was pulling you. :devil: Was I running the same boost level? No. Was I on the race gas tune? No. Do I have an up pipe leak? Yes.

I raced you to see if I could hang with you.... I did that. If you want to race try Jason. its his car.

They were very similar when your rims had 225/50s and mine had 205/55s, but now that you are wearing 205/55s again... that would mean they weigh even less.

Mirrors can be deceiving. Jason 100% agrees with what I saw when he was in my car.

You were running 27-27.5 lbs to my ~29 lbs. Red vs SZ49. You were on your 100 octane tune, which dyno's the same on TXS's dyno as my C16 tune. So we were both at 450whp.

Then you rode with me, Jason drove your/his car... I gave him the kick, door to door, then he pulled, the SZ outspooled the Red and I pulled back door ro door... and thats how it ended.... 100% dead even. You were in my car to see that.

Jason was in my car to see when you were driving. Same outcome. You kicked it, except this time you were at least a car ahead of me, which gave you about a 2 car lead... then we just paced out.

Dammit... just get one more day with that thing... we will go to Cecil and run!! Like the good old days. :devil:

PS- whatever happened to the days where you'd give me the kick... hehehehe :devil:

def

WRXRallyBlue
03-07-2006, 02:30 PM
Hey, def. I woke up this morning and was thinking about this thread :no life: and was wondering if your times could be improved with a rear diffuser like from the 06 STI? Decreased drag and turbulence, but increased weight? Just a thought, what do you think?

dug-e-fresh
03-07-2006, 02:34 PM
btw- for those who don't know... mikaust owns a 3 mile long, 20 foot wide stretch of paved land in south-east pa. any and all references to said pulls ocurred on said private property with safety crew on call.

def

dug-e-fresh
03-07-2006, 02:36 PM
Hey, def. I woke up this morning and was thinking about this thread :no life: and was wondering if your times could be improved with a rear diffuser like from the 06 STI? Decreased drag and turbulence, but increased weight? Just a thought, what do you think?

http://www.japanparts.com/Pic/pic170/026-001.htm

http://www.japanparts.com/Pic/pic170/001.gif

:D

def

Zrex11
03-07-2006, 07:11 PM
Hot damn Def, holding your own as always....nice work man!








-Z

Unabomber
03-07-2006, 10:13 PM
Nice job buddy. I talked to Andrew up in Gaithersburg today and we both agree that you are our new hero!

Ron

dug-e-fresh
03-08-2006, 10:46 AM
Nice job buddy. I talked to Andrew up in Gaithersburg today and we both agree that you are our new hero!

Ron


Yea, ok... what he really say? ;)

def

MARKGSTI
03-08-2006, 12:27 PM
you are our new hero!

Doug is doing amazing things with a SZ49...Are you sure you ain't from P.R.? :lol:

nmyeti
03-08-2006, 01:46 PM
Screw both of you guys…fighting like little girls. I am done tuning both of your cars.

-Nathan
no soup for you

n2xlr8n
03-08-2006, 03:48 PM
Screw both of you guys…fighting like little girls. I am done tuning both of your cars.

-Nathan
no soup for you

If you think THAT'S fighting, you should visit Capitol...... :lol:

S.

DoctorNick
03-08-2006, 11:06 PM
Congrats, but when are you gonna run some fast times? :D :lol:

SBW
03-08-2006, 11:19 PM
wow, amazing times. good driving.

Unabomber
03-08-2006, 11:29 PM
He said he wants PPG to make a heavier than OEM flywheel for you so you can cut like a 1.5 60' time. :)

dug-e-fresh
03-09-2006, 08:43 AM
He said he wants PPG to make a heavier than OEM flywheel for you so you can cut like a 1.5 60' time. :)

hehehe... yea I was talking to him about that yesterday. Would definitely be interesting. But what weak link would it reveal??? ;)

def

dug-e-fresh
03-09-2006, 08:43 AM
wow, amazing times. good driving.

thanks!

def

dug-e-fresh
03-09-2006, 08:45 AM
Congrats, but when are you gonna run some fast times? :D :lol:

Hopefully soon... seemed I overlooked a 1/2" gash in a vacuum line off the brake booster... :devil: Thanks Jermaine/Andrew. That has been corrected.

And now with a few electronic upgrades I just acquired... I should feel abit more confident to run soon...

def

mikaust
03-09-2006, 09:39 AM
Screw both of you guys…fighting like little girls. I am done tuning both of your cars.

-Nathan
no soup for you

Its all Doug's fault.

dug-e-fresh
03-09-2006, 09:40 AM
Its all Doug's fault.

:furious: :eek: :( :p

def

n2xlr8n
03-09-2006, 10:22 AM
He said he wants PPG to make a heavier than OEM flywheel for you so you can cut like a 1.5 60' time. :)


That would be fun, if it wouldn't break parts. :)

You're doing great, Doug, congratulations.

S.

DoctorNick
03-09-2006, 12:05 PM
How do you think your axles and rear dif are holding up? Seriously, congrats. Its been real fun watching your project build.

jgheels2003
03-09-2006, 04:02 PM
Those are outstanding results. Keep up the amazing work!

StillBoostin
03-09-2006, 10:30 PM
Just do it doug. You know you will be in the 10's if you do. Hows that hood? Can I get the scoop? ;)

James

WRXRallyBlue
03-10-2006, 12:34 AM
Damn, all this good natured fun is so refreshing from the jerkoff threads that are the norm on this forum.

Can't wait for updates! :devil:

Unabomber
03-10-2006, 02:17 AM
Since you have PPG gears....I'm betting the next thing to go would be:

1. Rear axle
2. Your R160

dug-e-fresh
03-10-2006, 07:27 AM
How do you think your axles and rear dif are holding up? Seriously, congrats. Its been real fun watching your project build.

So far so good. I am running the original axles on the car... so they are going on 5 years of abuse here in a week or so ;)

The rear went once, but that was more or less from severe abuse. I did snow donuts whenever I could... would kick the rear out whenever I could and at the track I got massive wheel hop... the diff still got me home (clicking)... to Turbo XS, dyno'ed 320 and then ALMOST made it home... lol!

The rear thats in there now seems fine.

I do have a spare rear, center and 2 sets of rear axles. I need to source a set of front axles and I will be all good... that or buy the driveshaftshop ones. We'll see. I hope Unabomber is right... cause I am prepared for those things. :)

def

dug-e-fresh
03-10-2006, 07:56 AM
Just do it doug. You know you will be in the 10's if you do. Hows that hood? Can I get the scoop? ;)

James

We can meet up this weekend. If I buy a driveshaft from Andrew and you guys... can you deliver this weekend, too? ;) Let me know if so, and how much.

def

dug-e-fresh
03-10-2006, 08:03 AM
Doug is doing amazing things with a SZ49...Are you sure you ain't from P.R.? :lol:

Just now caught this... :lol: Thats pretty good...

def

WRXRallyBlue
04-19-2006, 08:12 PM
I demand an update immediately!!

powerleak
04-19-2006, 09:36 PM
damn dug... makes we want to get rid of my 6 speed.