View Full Version : My Custom Turbo Manifold Im making, and some other crap.
STEALTH-WRX 03-05-2006, 09:23 PM January 14th, 2007. Here is most up to date on the car
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1173893
Here is the most updated picture.
http://myspace-579.vo.llnwd.net/01312/97/53/1312393579_l.jpg
I have started on the completion of my car again. I am getting it ready for this seasons drag racing. All the electronics are done, the cage and interior is done. Im running a GT42R now and I will be putting up some of the fab pictures as I finish up. It will be ready in the next 5 weeks. Here are some specs on the car:
- Crawford Complete motor
- 1000 CC injectors
- Autronic ECU
- Built Auto Tranny
- GT42R, 60MM wastegate, PWR air/liquid intercooler
Some other crap
Here are some pictures of the turbo manifold I worked on today. Ill have it finished wednesday. Next week ill have the aluminum intake manifold pictures up.
If you guys have any questions, just ask. Sorry I havent been on here posting as much as I used to.
Nick
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kennyvb 03-05-2006, 09:34 PM nice fab and welds.
Hondaslayer 03-05-2006, 09:35 PM I take it you are reverse mounting the turbo (in front of the engine)?
PS, gorgeous welds.
99subi 03-05-2006, 09:39 PM your beads are amazing!
02Toyowrx 03-05-2006, 09:39 PM Nick what happened to your own custom air/water intercooler setup? Also what are the specs on your crawford engine?
STEALTH-WRX 03-05-2006, 09:43 PM Thanks guys...
Nick what happened to your own custom air/water intercooler setup? Also what are the specs on your crawford engine?
I got rid of my air/water box that went where the factory intercooler was about 18 months ago. It worked really well, however street air/water intercoolers are only so so. So my car is drag only now so I wont have a heat exchanger for it. As far as the engine goes, its just a strong 2500 cc engine. :)
ShaggyGT 03-05-2006, 09:56 PM Definitely looking foward to seeing how your new project turns out. I was very impressed with your work on your last setup. Keep up the good work as always!!!
-Matt
WashmyScooby 03-05-2006, 10:00 PM This definately isn't the first time you have welded. Looks awesome man
DeeBoy 03-05-2006, 10:01 PM beautiful fabrication skillz!!
Blackboxracing 03-05-2006, 10:04 PM just wanted to give my support, in hopes of gettin the balls to fab some plumbing myself one day....
looks unbelievable, keep it up and keep us posted
ishot50 03-05-2006, 10:33 PM *Subscribe* i got 2 see the finished product
BlueREX2004 03-05-2006, 11:00 PM This is freaking unreal! I have the tools but not patients... props man!
DeeBoy 03-06-2006, 12:28 AM This is freaking unreal! I have the tools but not patients... props man!
you a doctor?? :lol:
Kontradictions 03-06-2006, 01:00 AM will this one day be the fastest WRX in the whole entire world? DiBlasi Edition to the extreme!!!
bubba03wrx 03-06-2006, 01:59 AM good luck nick. If theres anything i can try and help you with just let me know
PHATsuby 03-06-2006, 02:34 AM Nick, awesome welds, did you do those using your usual technique;)
cant wait to see the finished product.
Ben
Lockedowne 03-06-2006, 04:49 AM Damn man, well done.
Silverpike 03-06-2006, 06:12 AM Wow, big props to your build. Should be a badass car when it's done.
I was looking at your engine bay shot, and it looks like your IM is on backwards?? The throttle body is facing forward. Can the manifold be reversed like that, or did you do some fab work on it?
Good luck!
Pacobeagle 03-06-2006, 08:39 AM the color of the car, is it the Lotus Green? Looks great, especially if it's gonna wear gold wheels.
Did you do the cage yourself? Any pics?
Great job. I have the tools at work, just haven't had any time to practice.
Jose
STEALTH-WRX 03-06-2006, 11:08 PM Wow, big props to your build. Should be a badass car when it's done.
I was looking at your engine bay shot, and it looks like your IM is on backwards?? The throttle body is facing forward. Can the manifold be reversed like that, or did you do some fab work on it?
Good luck!
The intake manifold mounting is symetrical so you can bolt it on either way. I am reversing it so it much shorter rounting of the piping.
the color of the car, is it the Lotus Green? Looks great, especially if it's gonna wear gold wheels.
Did you do the cage yourself? Any pics?
Great job. I have the tools at work, just haven't had any time to practice.
Jose
I didnt do the entire cage myself, I suck poo at figuring out where to make the main hoop and front bar bends so my friend helped me with it. The welding part is the easy part for me.
traction issuez 03-06-2006, 11:38 PM that's just beautiful!
do u think you'll be selling this manifold? just wondering.
-mike
STEALTH-WRX 03-06-2006, 11:48 PM that's just beautiful!
do u think you'll be selling this manifold? just wondering.
-mike
Im sure I could make one just like it and sell it. However, i dont think that people realize that this is all 321 stainless, and very precise. I would sell it for $1400 at a minimum.
thespeedfactor 03-07-2006, 12:07 AM am i mistaken or is that a prototype TC wastegate?
05aspenrex 03-07-2006, 02:39 AM I was head R&D for a company who made one piece hi-flow cats for quite some time. Your welds do look nice and everything seem to be symmetrical,but I think that 1400.00 may be a little much. Once you get your jigs set up this should be 8 hours work. If you do plan on selling a few I may be interested as I have not touched a welder in a few years and do not have one at my open disposal. Great job and props for being innovative. Hope your project goes well and look forward to seeing the finished product.
Dustin
djviper 03-07-2006, 05:15 AM $1400 is about £800 to us and is under the going rate for a hand made maniflold and thats with welbs of half the quality shown here!
stelth, what diamiter tubing have you used and how did you research it? also did you need to fabricate a bracket for the altenator relocation or does it (please let it be) use the AC mounts
STEALTH-WRX 03-07-2006, 10:30 AM $1400 is about £800 to us and is under the going rate for a hand made maniflold and thats with welbs of half the quality shown here!
stelth, what diamiter tubing have you used and how did you research it? also did you need to fabricate a bracket for the altenator relocation or does it (please let it be) use the AC mounts
The tubing starts at 1.75" and then steps up to 2.0". Since I am using a GT42r I wanted to have some serious flow and I knew that this would handle it. The alternator relocation i made has a bracket that bolts underneith the alternator to adjust the belt tension. Ill take some pictures of it this week.
djviper 03-07-2006, 10:39 AM cheers dudev i dont suppose you kept the pattern fot it?
dream 03-07-2006, 11:29 AM Nice work man!
traction issuez 03-07-2006, 11:50 AM 1400 is about right, i know custom manifolds for race use all motor hondas range to that much, plus this is for a gt42r which i think is about right. keep us posted!
MomoWRX 03-07-2006, 01:00 PM That looks nice....What block/EM did you choose to go with? Can't wait to see this beast.
SPOOLN 03-07-2006, 02:26 PM Amazing. Cant wait to see the finished product.
dream 03-07-2006, 04:14 PM What GT42 is that? What is your goal hp #?
bubba03wrx 03-07-2006, 05:39 PM That looks nice....What block/EM did you choose to go with? Can't wait to see this beast.
Crawford block and Autronic ECU ( its in the 1st page)
MomoWRX 03-07-2006, 05:53 PM Crawford block and Autronic ECU ( its in the 1st page)
yes, however crawford has many different blocks did he get the 2.5 or 2.8 or what?
epaplia 03-07-2006, 06:57 PM will this one day be the fastest WRX in the whole entire world? DiBlasi Edition to the extreme!!!
I swear I have heard that name before around town.
First name Nick???? Section 8 Motorsports???
Do you know Kian???
8Complex 03-07-2006, 08:11 PM http://www.section8motors.citymax.com/i/turbo%20manifold/13.JPG
Looks like some precision positioning of that collector. :lol:
Looks like it's going to be fun though! Good luck. :)
STEALTH-WRX 03-07-2006, 10:13 PM Looks like some precision positioning of that collector. :lol:
Looks like it's going to be fun though! Good luck. :)
Hahaha, Very true. I have my accuracy down to .000000001 with that c-clamp holding it to the table.
MrH00nel2 03-07-2006, 10:21 PM interested to see where this lead too!
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Sorry for all the neb quest
Is the header twin scroll at all?? would u be interested in making one?
Also where is the turbo goin to be mounted?
STEALTH-WRX 03-07-2006, 11:49 PM I swear I have heard that name before around town.
First name Nick???? Section 8 Motorsports???
Do you know Kian???
Yup, thats me. Yeah, Kian is a friend of mine. :)
Sorry for all the neb quest
Is the header twin scroll at all?? would u be interested in making one?
Also where is the turbo goin to be mounted?
The turbo has a divided inlet. The manifold just collects into a 2.5 inch tube. I am going to knife edge the turbo housing inlet so it will transition.
The turbo will be in front of the crank pulley
OHARA 03-08-2006, 12:22 AM [QUOTE=STEALTH-WRX]http://www.section8motors.citymax.com/i/turbo%20manifold/9.JPG
Yay for Miller Tig Welders!!! :banana:
epaplia 03-08-2006, 12:25 AM Yup, thats me. Yeah, Kian is a friend of mine. :)
You may not remember....I had 02 wrx kian did with vf23 ecuteck.....etc.
I believe you know my brother Kevin Paplia. :confused:
Nice work so far though on this project. It looks nice.
Yup, thats me. Yeah, Kian is a friend of mine. :)
The turbo has a divided inlet. The manifold just collects into a 2.5 inch tube. I am going to knife edge the turbo housing inlet so it will transition.
The turbo will be in front of the crank pulley
nice. so are u goin to remove the radiator and relocate it?? As im sure it would get really hot with the turbo being there?
I wonder if u can put the turbo underneath the car, right where the manifold normally bolts up to?? Would this work i wonder or would it be too close to the ground and thus get smacked around.
STEALTH-WRX 03-08-2006, 12:54 AM My radiator I am making will go where the stock intercooler is.
nxttruck2002 03-08-2006, 01:56 AM Damn... Nice work Nick!! Keep us posted with tons of pics!
:subscribed:
-Omar
02Toyowrx 03-08-2006, 03:06 AM Nick, are you using cams and take advantage of the extra rpms to keep that turbo in its efficiency range. You used to have web WRX regrinds correct?
What is your max RPM with your auto trans?
Are you plannin on going with a dry sump oil system, or at least an accusump?
Javier 03-08-2006, 04:28 AM So your setup is gonna look a lot like the rigoli red wagon? I can't wait. That thing is a beast...
ride5000 03-08-2006, 09:09 AM nice work. keep the thread updated please! :)
MomoWRX 03-08-2006, 03:02 PM What size block please!?!?!?! :alien:
ride5000 03-08-2006, 03:14 PM As far as the engine goes, its just a strong 2500 cc engine. :)
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8Complex 03-08-2006, 03:23 PM As far as the engine goes, its just a strong 2500 cc engine. :)
Is that an overbored EJ25? Or are you saying it's a standard motor? EJ25's in standard boreXstroke are 2457cc.
I've heard some of the newer (last few years) blocks are pretty strong, good luck in keeping it together. :)
wgknestrick 03-08-2006, 07:03 PM How are you handling the oil supply/return for the turbo with it being so low?
Freon 03-08-2006, 07:16 PM More pics or die!
No seriously, looks great! Keep it coming. Thanks for actually sharing, too, something a lot of fat paid companies won't even do.
jared nelson 03-10-2006, 02:37 PM hey, nick, are you putting a cold air intake on those, or doing teh new silencer box removal mod? I dont think you will run right if you dont...
nice to see you back on the soc. My car is under a bunch of changes right now as well, and I could actually use your thoughts on a few things.
kevinh211 03-13-2006, 09:57 PM thats some nice welding!
post more pictures :cool:
OHARA 03-13-2006, 10:40 PM 12345 more PIcs POr Favor!!
STEALTH-WRX 03-13-2006, 10:50 PM I will have more pictures as soon as i flare my 1.75 od tubes. I need them to flare to 1.87 od so they can slip fit into my 2.00 od tubes. I really wanted to keep all of this slip fit, but i may only be able to make the collector slip fit. I bought a exhaust pipe expander, but I have broken the bolts for it twice. Its really starting to piss me off.
Tim Sanderson 03-14-2006, 12:13 AM Maybe you can share with us where you got the bends, their wall thickness,material, and where you got the pre-fab collector.
Looks ok so far. I'm concerned about your welds. A couple of them were concave and might crack.
8Complex 03-14-2006, 10:29 AM I bought a exhaust pipe expander, but I have broken the bolts for it twice. Its really starting to piss me off.
Maybe try warming up the pipes before you expand them? Should make them a little softer, and you won't have to crank so hard on the expander bolts.
sonic rx 03-14-2006, 11:07 AM I'm concerned about your welds. A couple of them were concave and might crack.
+1 i was thinking the same thing may want to add to the welds for good measure. it is looking good though. i can't wait to see the finished product :)
STEALTH-WRX 03-14-2006, 09:48 PM These tubes are fused together. This is the only way I can ensure it stays 321 stainless. If i introduce a different filler like 347, 3316, or 308 the grade of the weld will be lower then the metal itself. I only use filler rod with something needs to be strong. Fusing is when it only has to hold its own weight. My turbo is mounting completely separate and with my slip joints on my collector there is lots of room for expansion. Almost all exhaust fabricators do this same exact method.
djviper 03-14-2006, 09:53 PM did you get a chance to take a piccy of the altenator relocation bracket at all mate?
Mighty Subie 03-27-2006, 03:25 PM man I love those welds.
PS: more pics!!! lol
rubberbiscuitt 03-29-2006, 08:43 PM i didn't take the time to read all the previous comments. but thats some really nice work. except for all that undercut.
sorry i had to say something, because i'm jeleous that i haven't been able to whip a custom manifold like that.
SaabTuner 03-29-2006, 09:26 PM Is that a Burn's Stainless collecter I see? :)
Some of the welds are a bit overheated, but still better than I could do! Good job! :D
jared nelson 03-29-2006, 10:06 PM it so funny how when people see welds they have to put in their .02 on what they would have done better. Its a waste. Why dont we spend time talking about other things that actually matter. In the end, I dont care if some of your know what undercut, or overheating are. I mean really who saw the first pic on this thread and said oh yeah, I wonder how well other people can benchweld this manifold together better than he did?
Nick, you are a patient guy!
djviper 03-29-2006, 11:13 PM ^ well said! all those who have throw critism why not post up pictures of the manifold you made yourself from scratch in your garage weldde by your own hands................ oh you dont have any? or your own hand made manifold?? right!say no more!
jared nelson 03-29-2006, 11:40 PM I want to talk to Nick about the other things about his motor. I am one person who realizes that he is a wealth of knowledge and smarts, and we can learn from him, rather than teaching him how to weld.
SaabTuner 03-30-2006, 07:02 AM If i introduce a different filler like 347, 3316, or 308 the grade of the weld will be lower then the metal itself.
Just noticed this, actually, 347 is often considered superior to 321 in terms of welding consumable. It's only major difference is that it uses Niobium to stabilize the matrix instead of Titanium. Otherwise the metals are essentially identical. Here's a nice article on the matter: http://www.azom.com/details.asp?ArticleID=967
A limitation with 321 is that titanium does not transfer well across a high temperature arc, so is not recommended as a welding consumable. In this case grade 347 is preferred - the niobium performs the same carbide stabilisation task but can be transferred across a welding arc. Grade 347 is therefore the standard consumable for welding 321.
Good to know. Burn's Stainless also reccomend 347 as welding consumable for welding 321. :)
PHATsuby 03-30-2006, 07:42 AM ^ well said! all those who have throw critism why not post up pictures of the manifold you made yourself from scratch in your garage weldde by your own hands................ oh you dont have any? or your own hand made manifold?? right!say no more!
i could post one;) Nick is a sick fabricator though, better than me, for now...:D
also jared I think saabtuner can't help but notice the metallurgic goings on, he seems to be a material engineer, at least from his posts that would be my guess.:)
Ben
herewegoagain 04-01-2006, 12:25 PM F5 F5 F5 F5
Can't wait for more pics.
STEALTH-WRX 04-04-2006, 02:05 AM Here are some updated pictures from today. I am waiting to get the turbo back to do the last tubes on the turbo manifold. From that point ill build a pretty heavy duty mount for the turbo.
I also have the picture where you can see my alternator adjuster bracket for those who have been asking.
I just finished welding the last runner on my new intake manifold today. I ran out of Argon last week so I had to wait till I had time to pick it up. The intake manifold has 2.25 inch diameter runners and a plenum volume of 85% of my engine displacement. The throttle body I will be using is the edlebrock 75mm universal one.
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WRX2FFU 04-04-2006, 02:08 AM Wow..
Kontradictions 04-04-2006, 02:13 AM words can not even begin to describe the amount of awesomeness your car is. simply amazzzzzzzzzing!
redwagon 04-04-2006, 04:29 AM So what all is it about this car that is stealth then? ;)
SaabTuner 04-04-2006, 05:31 AM also jared I think saabtuner can't help but notice the metallurgic goings on, he seems to be a material engineer, at least from his posts that would be my guess.:)
Ben
No, but I did stay at a Holliday Inn Express last night. :D
M3GTR 04-04-2006, 12:09 PM Do you plan on putting in velocity stacks or smoothing the edges to the runners? You don't want flow seperation there and the corner looks pretty abrupt as it is.
Swine 04-04-2006, 12:57 PM Wow man, looking nice.
STEALTH-WRX 04-04-2006, 10:14 PM Do you plan on putting in velocity stacks or smoothing the edges to the runners? You don't want flow seperation there and the corner looks pretty abrupt as it is.
Its not done yet, also no velocity stacks, pointless on forced induction as there is not negative pressure in the plenum for it to create a venturi.
PHATsuby 04-05-2006, 12:07 AM awesome job Nick, looking nice. i am excited to see the radiator and IC and turbo setup and routing. Keep up the pics!!
Saabtuner, what on earth do you do then:) seem to know a large deal about materials.
Ben
happasaiyan 04-05-2006, 12:39 AM holy sickness. ive loved this car since before you even finished the air/water ic...back on clubwrx.net. crazy how far this car has come.
happasaiyan 04-05-2006, 12:40 AM So what all is it about this car that is stealth then? ;)
it used to be. ;)
at one point, he had a grandpa-looking exhaust that angled down....with stock rims, the water/air ic...it was very stealth at one point.
Storm 04-05-2006, 04:40 AM That manifold looks similar to our Irish Mikes manifold for NA use. Makes big power and no loss of torque. I think yours came out super!!!! You'll be quite happy I'm sure!
Jay Storm
SaabTuner 04-05-2006, 08:37 AM Saabtuner, what on earth do you do then:) seem to know a large deal about materials.
Ben
Just pathologically curious. I was one of those kids who won tons of medals in academic pentathalons, started college ridiculously young (12, part-time) and read really obscure texts that no-one else found interesting. (IE: I'm a huge dorky nerd :lol: ) As a result I know a bit about a rather large number of odd-ball things like this for no particular reason.
But I'm by no means an authoritative source myself on some of these matters, which is why I always leave links to, and quotes from, people/companies which are authoritative sources. That way, they can do the qualified speaking for me. :)
ride5000 04-05-2006, 11:07 AM Its not done yet, also no velocity stacks, pointless on forced induction as there is not negative pressure in the plenum for it to create a venturi.
not true.
as far as turbulence is concerned, the plenum doesn't care what the absolute pressure level is... there must ALWAYS be a pressure differential if you expect flow.
if you don't think velocity stacks work on an FI car then you don't think porting/radiusing sharp edges/polishing works either. they are not about creating venturis--they are about reducing turbulence from abrupt cross-sectional area changes.
checque 04-12-2006, 10:10 PM Awesome work, this car is gonna be sick!
n2xlr8n 04-13-2006, 10:21 AM not true.
as far as turbulence is concerned, the plenum doesn't care what the absolute pressure level is... there must ALWAYS be a pressure differential if you expect flow.
if you don't think velocity stacks work on an FI car then you don't think porting/radiusing sharp edges/polishing works either. they are not about creating venturis--they are about reducing turbulence from abrupt cross-sectional area changes.
I'm glad you said that; It saved me from tooling on the guy. :lol:
S.
M3GTR 04-13-2006, 10:41 AM Thanks for backing me up guys. He did say he wasn't done so I hope he has kept that thought in mind.
STEALTH-WRX 04-13-2006, 10:56 AM Ah I must have misunderstood. Automatically when I read velocity stacks I assumed air horns. I definately will be putting a big radius in it of course. No wonder you guys thought I was nuts. I will be finishing it this weekend. If there is anything I missed or should do, please let me know as I am up for all suggestions.
Thanks,
Nick
Crawford Performance 04-13-2006, 11:41 AM Can't wait to get it on the dyno and see what kind of power it will make :D
Quirt
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distorto 04-16-2006, 04:10 AM don't you have to run 9's to need a parachute?
STEALTH-WRX 04-16-2006, 12:09 PM No, its more of a mile an hour thing. There are cars running high 10's that require them. Im only following the rule book and preparing. If they based it on a 1/4 mile time the mph times would vary greatly.
don't you have to run 9's to need a parachute?
D Money 04-16-2006, 12:43 PM that is absolutly sick!!!
SubasaurusWrex 04-19-2006, 01:10 PM filler-less TIG welds for teh win! nice mani dewd, and I think you're right on the welds, that theres a larger chance of it cracking when using filler.
jared nelson 04-19-2006, 01:10 PM lets see more pics nick
n2xlr8n 04-19-2006, 01:15 PM don't you have to run 9's to need a parachute?
>149mph trap per NHRA. ;)
youpers 04-23-2006, 02:29 PM whats the benefit of a sheet metal manifold? My uncle had one made for his blown LS1 and he always had problems with it. I just had mine ported along with the heads so the ports are equal ID. I just don't see why reinventing the wheel is necessary; HOWEVER! I think you work is great. I love the idea of mounting the alt to the side and putting the TB in its place. I take it you wont be using a TPS either. Very nice work. I look forward to more pics.
02Toyowrx 04-23-2006, 02:37 PM You have to understand this is not an average car.
You will lose heat with a normal header(non cast type manifold), but the way this manifold is made he will gain from it being equal length, getting rid of the "uppipe" so overall less piping.
Javier 04-23-2006, 03:41 PM He's using sheetmetal because no one makes a cast iron manifold to relocate the turbo where he's gonna put it...
Hopper 04-23-2006, 07:32 PM I’ve built an equal length header with a divided collector for a VW years ago. The turbine housing was a T-4 divided. It helped in spool up and it sounded GREAT!
PHATsuby 04-23-2006, 07:42 PM can we address the fact that these are headers and not a manifold.:)
sorry, just a pet peeve.
Ben
pio!pio! 04-25-2006, 03:15 AM doesn't exhaust manifold = headers?
SaabTuner 04-25-2006, 04:39 AM doesn't exhaust manifold = headers?
Not technically. :)
It's totally subjective though. Headers are usually regarded as simply welded tubes while manifolds are cast.
But you can have welded tube manifolds and cast headers, so I do not see it as a meaningful distinction.
herewegoagain 04-25-2006, 10:31 AM I always thought of manifolds as things that lead to a turbo, and headers as things that lead to atmosphere. Guess I was wrong.
Storm 04-25-2006, 01:03 PM Yay...the spammer post is gone!!!!
Manifolds can mean more than just intake or exhaust. I use a 5 port pneumatic manifold as a central vacuum source on our sheetmetal intake.....manifold...
STEALTH-WRX 04-25-2006, 10:00 PM Yay...the spammer post is gone!!!!
Manifolds can mean more than just intake or exhaust. I use a 5 port pneumatic manifold as a central vacuum source on our sheetmetal intake.....manifold...
Exactly. Before I had anything to do with cars I was always using SMC and Parker Pneumatic manifolds and solenoids for actuators. Automation is so fun.
youpers 04-26-2006, 04:20 AM I think my mention of the word manifold started this debate about headers, which is not what I was talking about at all. I was talking about the intake manifold, I guess I should of specified. I could call it an intake header if that makes some people happier (jk).
jblaine 05-11-2006, 02:41 PM Updates? It's been weeks!
SparkysJDMSpeedWagon 05-11-2006, 06:05 PM What a sweet setup! I'm guessing the AWIC is going to be directly above the intercooler, so there'll be a 90-degree bend into the reverse-mount intake manifold? Which means the turbo would be rotated so that the exhaust would come out right in-front of the tire :devil: I like it! Oh, and cool color choice for the car!
jblaine 05-24-2006, 01:11 PM I heard this engine exploded.
Just kidding. POST UPDATES.
MY99 2.5GT 05-24-2006, 03:33 PM :lol:
STEALTH-WRX 05-26-2006, 02:01 AM I wish it did, then I would just give up and stop dropping money into it. I had a few issues with my APS tgv housings since they didnt fit my 1000 cc injectors. I had to get my hands on some stock ones that i am going to modifiy since the injectors will fit those with ease. I should have most of it mounted and ready monday, then start the car the next weekend. Ill have pictures up once it is started since its extremely annoying showing unfinished pictures, then people trying to tell me they are unfinished after I state that it is unfinished. So, give it about a week.
Flat4 STI 05-29-2006, 10:17 PM Your Knowledge and Skills never cease to amaze me.Nice work on your Car as usual.
The first time i saw you car at one of the Renick meets years ago with its lopey idle was awesome and to see it now is amazing.
jblaine 05-30-2006, 11:22 AM Good luck, Nick.
herewegoagain 06-12-2006, 05:16 PM bump.
blind26 06-12-2006, 05:22 PM Sick setup...
jemar2169 06-23-2006, 05:57 AM bump?
Sneeky Pete 06-26-2006, 06:37 PM Awsome work brother,Nice beeds! :D
mattjk 07-03-2006, 10:51 PM Do you plan on putting in velocity stacks or smoothing the edges to the runners? You don't want flow seperation there and the corner looks pretty abrupt as it is.
you don't want velocity stacks in an intake manifold if it is going to be force fed. You want flat surfaces and smooth corners.
Great work, Nick!
Edit, sorry read the further posts. Nevermind me.
mattjk 07-03-2006, 11:02 PM Nick, check out this guy's IM he makes for 7M supras. He uses a variety of cast aluminum pipe to make shapes. He also makes a killer exhaust manifold. might give you some ideas.
http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6519
http://members.aol.com/jt2ma6/up5.jpg
http://members.aol.com/senquest/D2.jpg
http://supras.dagazgroup.com/supras/ronr/
http://supras.dagazgroup.com/supras/ronr/photos/zzz.JPG
wrxzboost 10-04-2006, 04:06 AM I wish it did, then I would just give up and stop dropping money into it. I had a few issues with my APS tgv housings since they didnt fit my 1000 cc injectors. I had to get my hands on some stock ones that i am going to modifiy since the injectors will fit those with ease. I should have most of it mounted and ready monday, then start the car the next weekend. Ill have pictures up once it is started since its extremely annoying showing unfinished pictures, then people trying to tell me they are unfinished after I state that it is unfinished. So, give it about a week.
just looking through some posts...so is it finished or unfinished?
STEALTH-WRX 10-04-2006, 09:50 PM Finished. Will be racing At Pomona for NHRA, and Irwndale for IDRC
Peeblesmx445 10-04-2006, 11:48 PM Finished. Will be racing At Pomona for NHRA, and Irwndale for IDRC
Pics?
Blackpantherwrx 10-06-2006, 02:02 PM Any updates????????
norexyet 10-08-2006, 12:12 AM welds look descent for stainless. Did you backpurge all the welds??
gc835 10-08-2006, 07:52 PM your mom asked the same thing
norexyet 10-08-2006, 07:57 PM ^^^you get a turbo yet josh?? No? please sit down
STEALTH-WRX 10-09-2006, 12:59 AM here is a pic
http://myspace-295.vo.llnwd.net/01265/59/21/1265581295_l.jpg
Swine 10-09-2006, 01:08 AM heh, not bad
Peeblesmx445 10-09-2006, 01:27 AM here is a pic
http://myspace-295.vo.llnwd.net/01265/59/21/1265581295_l.jpg
Holly ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: Amazing set-up! What are the specs? any more pics?
Chris W. Rex 10-09-2006, 02:22 AM that looks awesome.
BLUE STINGER 10-09-2006, 02:29 AM Wow! Good luck with the build.;)
Regards,
Ron
fobiawrx 10-09-2006, 10:16 PM dam that is so sick!
fobiawrx 10-09-2006, 10:26 PM please post more picks!
PHATsuby 10-10-2006, 03:44 PM looks awesome Nick, great work! can't wait to see the results, I am sure you have to have been on the dyno, where is the press;)
Ben
fobiawrx 10-17-2006, 07:32 PM any news?
kb2spn 10-17-2006, 07:52 PM :banana: :banana: :banana:
STEALTH-WRX 10-20-2006, 01:38 AM Updated with new pic on first page.
Javier 10-20-2006, 02:08 AM We definitely need better pics!! Looks like incredible work though.
dream 10-20-2006, 02:47 AM Has this car been on the dyno yet?
fobiawrx 10-20-2006, 06:09 PM this is the coolest car i have ever seen!
pux888 10-20-2006, 06:39 PM What class are you planning to run your car in?
Kontradictions 10-20-2006, 07:07 PM i heard this beast is going to be running over 1,000,000hp! :banana: :banana: :banana:
GO NICK GO!!!:disco:
the_virus 10-20-2006, 07:13 PM sweet ride!!!
Blackpantherwrx 10-28-2006, 09:40 PM B.U.M.P for anymore updates.... Saw the car in pamona. Looking Good.
Nilesh 10-28-2006, 11:08 PM What did the car run, any times?!!
eazyd123 11-01-2006, 01:35 AM I wish i had a 1/4 of the skill that you have with motors...my hat is off to you...what will it run or did it run?????????
9vapors 11-01-2006, 06:01 PM I wish i had a 1/4 of the skill that you have with motors...my hat is off to you...what will it run or did it run?????????
+1, any updates?
Wrinkleboi 11-11-2006, 09:31 PM Bump because I want to hump your car... and when you have some time to post more photos it would be much appreciated.
When you have time do you mind outlining the issues you encountered with this setup?
This is the obvious work that needed to be done: obviously the normal rotated manifold (or your custom one), custom exhaust manifold, custom exhaust piping, custom intercooler... but what am I not seeing or thinking about?
Was it absolutely not possible to position the turbo, intercooler, AND radiator in the front area of the car? how is that radiator doing up there?
How did you go about integrating an oil drain pump?
What other complications played into this that I havent thought about?
Hopefully you dont mind sharing some of your secrets here. I think this is by far the most logical setup based on exhaust manifold and intercooler piping possible... fitting it all under the hood is whats left up in the air. Big props for making this happen... and for doing it yourself. I'm hoping to be able to pick up a project car in the next year or two and follow a path somewhat similar to this, although with a slightly smaller turbo. Who knows if that will materialize or not but hopefully you don't mind, and don't mind sharing some more information about what was involved in making this setup come to life.
jblaine 12-05-2006, 12:34 PM d0000000d
Updates?
Nick@JEPistons 12-05-2006, 12:36 PM Ill try to take some pictures after work and give the update.
d0000000d
Updates?
jblaine 12-05-2006, 12:44 PM From what *I* can gather from nhra.com, it doesn't look like the car ran.
EDIT: ^^^ Thanks Nick. We'd all like to hear.
shuttlegoosecock 12-05-2006, 06:32 PM dude i flew up to california and i saw this car at formula D, it was so nasty
lawn boy 12-05-2006, 11:47 PM ive been following this car for damn near 2 years now...maybe more? your work is AMAZING...im so envious of your skills.
my only complaint is that you shoulda never converted to the 04 front end ;)
Homemade WRX 12-06-2006, 12:34 AM I'd love to know what motor you are running and to see a dyno sheet...don't recall seeing one in the thread...?
I'm probably blind
soon2bblackongold 12-31-2006, 03:10 PM bump, i never saw the thread
HEKTIC 01-03-2007, 04:54 PM bump for updates :D
HEKTIC 01-03-2007, 07:18 PM also how and where does the radiator fit and connect all in there??
bubba03wrx 01-05-2007, 04:35 PM Nick you are still one crazy person. Saw all these pics at school of your car with other students telling me "hey check out this suby" as soon as i saw teh green i was like hey i know that guy.
in other words updates?
Nick@JEPistons 01-05-2007, 05:19 PM Yeah, I have pictures I took recently and all the updates on it. I just moved and I dont have internet access at home so I cant load my pics onto my FTP site to host them. I can have them up in 2 weeks, unless someone wants to host some for me.
jblaine 01-05-2007, 05:22 PM I can easily host them for you.
Email them to me: jblaine ATSIGN kickflop.net
jared nelson 01-05-2007, 05:23 PM Ill host them for you Nick. You know I have been bugging you for pictures of you car since early 2006. Good to see some progress, My car should be on the road soon too without that damn auto trans.
STEALTH-WRX 01-14-2007, 01:43 PM Hereis the updated post guys.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1173893
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