I've read the offset info and just wondered who has actually tried really low offsets on which wheels to try and clear STi Brembos without spacers.

I own a GGB wagon with Brembos and I'm trying like heck to stay with a 17x7 wheel.

I've seen a wheel by Raze that is 17x7 +40 and have measured my set up but it may be a little too close for comfort.

Anyone tried?

-Dylan

It is more a question of wheel design and shape of the center of the wheel than of offset as to caliper clerance.

'04 STi wheels would be great

I would just prefer not to run factory BBS, it's just a personal taste thing.

-Dylan

I own a GGB wagon with Brembos and I'm trying like heck to stay with a 17x7 wheel...not aware of any 17x7's that fit over the Brembos without a spacer

but the 17x7.5 ET53 STI JDM V.7's do - Mauro Motorsports has them on their website - don't look anything like the USDM STI BBS

best to stay as high as offset as possible for more accurate steering feel - ET40 is way too low in my book

Are you are looking for a 17x7" rim to clear your Brembos without spacers AND be kept to the center of the car as much as possible to avoid outer fender rubbing?

If so and assuming you're running 5x100 rotors, this thread (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=448097&highlight=confirmed+brembo) has a few suggestions for you...

Rage Breaker = 17x7_ET42... (fastline)
Enkei CDR9 = 17x7_ET40
Enkei RS5 = 17x7_ET40__(19.8 lbs)... (ralyrcr)
Racing Sparco Tarmacs = 17x7_ET48__(20.5 lbs)... (garlo)


According to this list, the Sparcos are the ones you want as they have the highest offset

Of course, there are always other rims out there to be discovered.

Billy- Yeah I looked at those mentioned wheels, still looking for something more my style.

-Dylan

....mebbe your 'style' needs to be 'modified'....

I think you are confused. Lowering the offset will make it quite easy to fit a 17x7, but raising it makes it more difficult. You could easily get a 17x6 to fit if you had something like a -20 offset.

I don't understand why ANYBODY would CHOOSE to run a 17x7 if a 17x7.5 will fit/work and be a better mount for the 'usual' 225/45 or 235/40.....even on a wagon.

...unless it is gonna get slammed.....then just fergetaboutit

Me either. Why run anything under 8"?

Don't these wider widths ride a little rougher? Also, on a wagon, isn't 8" very close to rubbing? I was looking at 17x7 or 17x7.5s just to avoid the rubbing and rough ride issues, maybe Dylan was as well.

I did see an 02 wagon with the widest wheels and tires I have ever seen and it looked great. I think they were 17". Too bad he was on the highway and I could not speak to him.

I've had rubbing issues with 225/45/17 on a 17x7 on my wagon. This is my daily driver and my track car and is very low. I'm looking for something that I like the style of and I don't have to worry about rubbing with.

-Dylan

I've had rubbing issues with 225/45/17 on a 17x7 on my wagon. This is my daily driver and my track car and is very low. I'm looking for something that I like the style of and I don't have to worry about rubbing with.

-Dylan


...ya didn't use the right offset wheel and didn't get yer alignment done right

...ya didn't use the right offset wheel and didn't get yer alignment done right


Please don't make assumptions.

My alignment was dead on as it was done by me on the top Hunter alignmnet rack.

The wagon is 10mm narrower per side so all the "off the shelf" WRX wheels are set up for sedans not wagons. This is why I am researching this subject.

I have had many conversatons with fellow wagon owners who also have shared the same problems.

-Dylan

downshift1, how low is low?

I was real low (could barely get one finger between tire and fender in the rear) and ran 225/45/17's, -1.3f & -1.2r, and only with passengers in the back would I rub and that was only over the rough stuff.

I then had the rear fenders rolled and never a worry.

Since, I have gone up a bit using Pridrive springs (a handling improvement) and I'm thinking of going wider.

It has to just be a tire and wheel choice.

Some tires are wider at the same size and if your offset isn't right you may rub, but there are tons of people running 225/45/17's that don't rub.

Hmmmmmm.............

My car is extremely low, I can't fit a finger between the tire and fender (custom coil overs with shortend bodies for correct travel).

My alignment is -2 deg. rear camber, -1.5 front camber, 0 deg toe front and rear, caster is stock.

Both front and rear fenders are rolled.

I drive this car extremely hard on the street and on the track.

Which tires are you guys running?

I've run:

Tires: Pirelli (sp?), Kumho 711 & 712, Dunlops Sp9000, Bridgestone RE070

Wheels include: Rota tarmacs, attacks, actions, Buddy Club PII, Prodrive P7, Konig Rated R

-Dylan

My car is extremely low, I can't fit a finger between the tire and fender (custom coil overs with shortend bodies for correct travel).

My alignment is -2 deg. rear camber, -1.5 front camber, 0 deg toe front and rear, caster is stock.

Both front and rear fenders are rolled.

I drive this car extremely hard on the street and on the track.

Which tires are you guys running?

I've run:

Tires: Pirelli (sp?), Kumho 711 & 712, Dunlops Sp9000, Bridgestone RE070

Wheels include: Rota tarmacs, attacks, actions, Buddy Club PII, Prodrive P7, Konig Rated R

-Dylan

....man......give it up.......if ya wannd do dumb crap like slamming yer rig and then have to run a poor choice of hardware and tehn cry about it :rolleyes:

If ya can't make a 225/45 fit on a wagon ya got SERIOUS problems----with yer head

If you have nothing construtive to say in this post then please quit posting here.

-Dylan

If you have nothing construtive to say in this post then please quit posting here.

-Dylan


NO.....this is ridiculous.

Wanting to do something that is just plain dumb is just plain dumb any way you look at it.

What part of this is not getting through to you????

Uncle Scotty- Please see my last post.

Uncle Scotty- Please see my last post.


...please see the folly of your youth.

....man......give it up.......if ya wannd do dumb crap like slamming yer rig and then have to run a poor choice of hardware and tehn cry about it :rolleyes:

If ya can't make a 225/45 fit on a wagon ya got SERIOUS problems----with yer head

Actually, you would be full of it in this instance. I also own a wagon, and a 225/45/17 rubbed like crazy on my wagon. Even with camber in the rear I still have issues because the streets of Chicago(where Dylan happens to live as well, hmm) are amongst the worst I have ever seen. On ANYTHING but a mildly lowered wagon, rubing is a concern for most of us. Also, I see nothing, "Crying" about his post. Its an honest question trying to find information.

You on the other hand have been acting like a petulant six year old. I know you probably have nothing better to do than play a pretentious jackass on a web board, but please, just leave. There are those of us who have an actual interest in what is going on here.


That being said, Dylan, any interest in tossing one of my wheels on your wagon later? I am curious as to wether or not they will clear the Brembo's. Would make my swap a hell of a lot easier not having to worry about new wheels.

17X8.5 +35 offset. 225/45/17 tire.

m.l- lol, yeah we'll try it out.

Kenji- thanks :)

-Dylan

Your car is way to low. And, unless you have relocated your inboard lower control arm mounts, or have fancy long ball joints, it has retarded alignement. I dont care what fancy custom coilover you have. Give this page a quick read:

http://e30m3performance.com/myths/Weight_Transfer/weight_transfer2.htm

Yes it is for BMW, but it applies to Subarus. In fact, Subarus are worse off than most strut equipped cars, because they tend to ride higher, so most people slam them more.

Slammed low does not equal great handling on a Subie. Raise your car back up do a decent height (13.5" to 14" depending on spring rates.) Benefits will be you get better handling, and be able to fit 225/45-17 tires on 17x7.5 or 8 wheels without problems.

Or, have your wicked low Wagon on narrow tires for an overall bad package.

Either way, good luck. You might try some spare tire donut wheels. They shouldnt rub.

Chris H.

Chris-

I have set the suspension to do exactly what I needed it to do at the level it rides at, all the angles are correct. I come from the the AE86 crowd where roll center adjusters are a neccesary part of life. I have offset ball joints to bring the roll center back where it needs to be.

I'm not looking for opinions on my suspension from people who have no idea how my suspension is set-up, I'm just looking for wheels that people run with low offsets that clear Brembos, so please just stick to the topic. :rolleyes:

-Dylan

....d000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000d.....

When YOU figure it out....YOU tell US.....'cuz YOU are lilkely the ONLY one trying to do this.

There IS a reason that ya get nothing on yer question.....or haven't ya figured THAT out yet?????

Actually, you would be full of it in this instance. I also own a wagon, and a 225/45/17 rubbed like crazy on my wagon. Even with camber in the rear I still have issues because the streets of Chicago(where Dylan happens to live as well, hmm) are amongst the worst I have ever seen. On ANYTHING but a mildly lowered wagon, rubing is a concern for most of us. Also, I see nothing, "Crying" about his post. Its an honest question trying to find information.

You on the other hand have been acting like a petulant six year old. I know you probably have nothing better to do than play a pretentious jackass on a web board, but please, just leave. There are those of us who have an actual interest in what is going on here.


That being said, Dylan, any interest in tossing one of my wheels on your wagon later? I am curious as to wether or not they will clear the Brembo's. Would make my swap a hell of a lot easier not having to worry about new wheels.



trying to do whe is being desribed here...and BEGGING for someone to 'tell me' :rolleyes: IS crying....and trying to MAKE things work is almost always ground breaking and threads like this are a huge PITA 'cuz the OP does NOT---say again NOT give us any REAL information until HE gets pissy about not getting what he wants and CYING about it...and telling US to go away for holding HIS BS up to the light and seeing the cracks in the whole premise of the issue.

...and when YOU pull your head outa your ass....come back and 'spaline it all to me.

Uncle scotty- you need to just leave this post alone.

I'm a 15 year career mechanic, former crew chief of a two car professional race team, and a mechanical engineer, so trust me I know more about suspension and theory than you ever will consider knowing.

I'm not looking for opinions on what I'm trying to do, or on my taste in wheels or what people think they know about suspenson set-up.

All I've asked is how low of an offset people have tried successfully to clear Brembos. I'm just looking for different designs of wheels that have cleared the brakes even though the offest is less than normal.


-Dylan