Finally got my Perrin rotated kit installed. Had Matt from Slick Motorsports here in Ohio custom fab my FMIC piping and blow through. I am very pleased with the results. Tuning is scheduled for next Saturday. :banana:
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i thought the intake was supposed to be in the front of the cabin like the stock air duct????

how does it run as a blow through setup with out any tuning?

what is the SM thing on your firewall? it appears to be some sort of oil cooler maybe but i dunno, and SM's website isnt working. nice setup btw, more pics please.

dang sure looks nice..i wish perrin come out with a kit that turbo sits angle instead of stock spot...and same price if possible .. =\

apexi relocated radiator tank. ultra jdm. shweet.

dang sure looks nice..i wish perrin come out with a kit that turbo sits angle instead of stock spot...and same price if possible .. =\
They do its called a turned turbo kit?

awaesome set up, why did you choose to put the intake where it is instead of where it comes straight out on the original perrin kit, cause i will be getting the perrin gt 30 kit. is there any reason and did it have any thing to do with the blow through, (what exactly is the point of a blow through MAF, kind if a Noobie question, sorry?).
thanks

nice set up

i'll help answer some questions on Mike's STi since i helped him with some of it.

i thought the intake was supposed to be in the front of the cabin like the stock air duct????
the original Perrin intake for the turbo kit get squished between the hood. what you can't see is a hose going to a velocity stack in the passenger side fog area.


how does it run as a blow through setup with out any tuning?
it's running on the rich side because the map we are using is calibrated for a BigMAF. it idles beautifully compared to when it was in the suck through configuration.


what is the SM thing on your firewall? it appears to be some sort of oil cooler maybe but i dunno, and SM's website isnt working. nice setup btw, more pics please.
that is a catch-can fabbed by Slick Motorsports.
i'll do a full photoshoot once we get the time.


dang sure looks nice..i wish perrin come out with a kit that turbo sits angle instead of stock spot...and same price if possible .. =\
this started out as a Perrin GT30R kit. after we installed it, i put the seed n his head to reverse the flow of his TXS TMIC. so he went to Slick to have the pipes fabbed. then while Mike dropped the STi off, he decided to go blow-through.


awaesome set up, why did you choose to put the intake where it is instead of where it comes straight out on the original perrin kit, cause i will be getting the perrin gt 30 kit. is there any reason and did it have any thing to do with the blow through, (what exactly is the point of a blow through MAF, kind if a Noobie question, sorry?).
thanks
the new intake is a full 4" unlike the Perrin that starts with the BigMAF (~3.x") then necks down to ~2.75" right after the MAF, then back up to 4" to mate to the turbo inlet. also going blw through helps with the idle problems that some people have with a big turbo and he can now run a VTA BOV and not worry about routing the re-circ hose. he won't have to worry about the BOV leaking when boosting.

thanks alot,
when i get my perrin kit (i have their fmic too) should i just have a intake fabricated for 4 in and to kit where i want it, or are there aftermarket ones which i could use without the MAF.

depends on what you are looking to do. 4" was logical because mike wanted to go with a blow through setup. SloRice is using the Perrin intake with his setup. we also have 2 other STi's with the Perrin setup. right now between mike's & tim's (SloRice) setup, they had different fitment problems with the Perrin rotated kit.

nice clean install! How was the fitment of the perrin kit?

here's some things that i recall from the install.
had to do some grinding to get the EWG to fit w/o hitting the tranny.
for the perrin intake to fit, you have to move the ABS pump and i think some other hardlines. the DP on mike's STi is hitting a cross-member. instead of the turbo being tapped for the the vac line to the BC, you have an additional pipe with this fitting. unlike the factory UP, the Perrin rotated UP doesn't have any support/brackets. no instructions in the kit, had to email Jeff Perrin for them, and they weren't the best. there wasn't a bracket in the kit for the intake (which was listed/mentioned in the instructions). too few vac fitting's for misc lines.

i think if he were to do it again, he may have went with the UR kit, or have it custom built by Slick.

Wow, thanks Don. Covered all the bases. Basically, the kit was a real PITA. We had it installed the way it "suppost" to be installed and I wasen't real happy with it. The fittiment with the Turbo XS FMIC was garbage. We had to make it work, and even then it wasen't real stable. Quack and I disscussed reversing the piping to eliminate all fittiment issues. I wasent happy with the turbo inlet at all. The filter sat right on top of the powersteering resevoir, and it was damn near impossible to run a recirc hose to it with the coolant resevoir in place. Even Slorice relocated his coolant resevoir to accomodate the recirc inlet. The blowthrough was a real challenge. Some people say the MAF housing has to be in certain places, others don't, it's a real a pain. Also, the tapers leading up to the housing need to be a certain length, to accomodate airflow. Everyone says something different. I am going to try and tune for the current 2.75" diameter and see what happens. Most tuners that I talked to recommend at least a 3" housing, but there needs to be at least 10" of straight tubing leading in. I was told by PDX that the 2.75" diameter may be OK, if the MAF is placed 3" from a bend. This is what we went for. The car fired right up on the map I was running. This was a map NOT tuned around the blowthrough. All tuners did agree though, that the blowthrough gets a better measure of intake air temps and not to worry about the temperature issue. The car idles funny, but drives good. The map is way too rich to even attempt to make boost, so I haven't seen boost yet. The turbo sounds great, I can't wait to wind this thing out!!!!

hahaha i forgot about the re-circ hose not fitting & being too short.

Very nice!! So where did you get that Apex-i coolant resevoir?

-Matt

^^^ Slick Motorsports in Cleveland

edit: forgot to add that he added some additional fittings

nice fab job!

how does it run as a blow through setup with out any tuning?


You can actually run your car w/o a MAF, the ECU will just be super conservative. I know from personal experience ..... :devil: :mad:

Man, I really wanted the perrin kit to work, because it's such a bargain. It looks like the Ultimate Racing kit is the only way to go, but I hate that it's not plumbed back.

If I were doing this again, I would probobly go with the UR kit. Perrin is suppost to be releasing a Blowthrough setup in the next month. Maybe that will make things easier. I really like the idea of the re-routed FMIC piping. A buddy of mine is installing a GT35R perrin kit with the Perrin FMIC. I would like to see how that works out.

dam, nice setup bigmike. cant wait to see it in person on saturday and see what kind of number it puts down.

i remember the day that you ordered most of the parts at my house :lol:

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ROFL... I forgot about that pic. I like how your inside the TV screen. Good stuff..

lol nice pic quack. and i like the pic in the tv.

I also installed the turbo kit this weekend, I found it was missing some hoses to connect the lines to nipples on the turbo inlet, but was able to drive the car to Hot Import Nights like that anyays, it did idle a little funny, i'm not sure if thats because it has the bigmaf or cause of the vacumn lines, oh well, it'll get fixed.

You can actually run your car w/o a MAF, the ECU will just be super conservative. I know from personal experience ..... :devil: :mad:

heh, my car wont even run if the maf is missing :(

update:
mike got tuned yesterday and Tim Bailey maxed the MAF with the blow through, but the good news is it was after they put down 345whp/370wtq @ 25psi.

FWIW, SloRice's STi with the same Perrin kit (but using the BigMAF) put down 375whp/340wtq.

Mustang dyno?

correct, on Buschur's Mustang

stock STi's did ~200whp

quack, what size pipe is used for his blow through section?

thanks

Ben

it's my old Perrin SRI maf section, so 2.75"

good to know, thanks! Don't want to use the same diameter to fab someone else's kit if it maxed out at 345whp.

thanks for the info.

Ben

he'll get a properly sized MAF section once we find teh right piping.