hey Guys Thinking About Relocating !!!

Whats It Like Living In Utah, I'm From California And It Is Rediculous Wanting To Buy A House Out Here !!! I'm Thinkging About Heading Out To Salt Lake City Area ! Hows Life Out There ? How Do The Jobs Pay , Whats The Cost Of Living ??? Any Info Would Be Greatly Appreciated !!!!

The persons that can tell you what the differance between Slc or Ut. Is Scobby Nightowl and Storybooksin. Both are transplants from so cal and Frisco area.

I don't live there, but can give you some insight. I was born in SLC, have much family there, and live in Nor Cal for 30 years. The biggest obstacle in most people's mind is the Mormon conservatism. But there are enough CA transplants there, that at least in the SLC metro area, there is a decent amount of culture and open-mindedness.

Housing costs are roughly 60-75% of the Bay Area, and the further you get from Salt Lake proper, the cheaper it gets. It's still very feasibly to get a full size home(3-4+ bedrooms) for a family in the $250-300,000 price range.

Pay rates are marginally less, but not enough so that your cut in pay would be offset by the lower cost of living. I actually have a cousin who works in San Fran, but lives in SLC. He stays with his mom for 12 days at a time, and then gets 5 off. His airfare expense, is less than the differential on his mortgage payment from living in SLC versus San Fran. And his home is 30% larger than the house he had in South San Fran. Try to find a house in the Bay Area where your mortgage is under $1000 a month! SLC is somewhere where a combined income of less than $100k a year can easily own a home and have plenty leftover for vacations, and other luxury-type expenses.

And if you are single, small homes and condos can still be had for the $100-200k range, with some condos even less. The 2 bdrm condo my mom recently sold in downtown SLC went for $85k.

And having the mountains 2-4 hours closer than most California locations is a huge benefit. Furthermore, Moab and the whole southwest is 4-6 hours away. I have an aunt and uncle with a boat on Lake Powell who are there every other weekend all summer long. If you are an outdoor type person, the opportunities for activity are pretty limitless.

What field do you work in? Are you married, or otherwise "attached"?

Just an FYI: Salt Lake City itself is an extremely liberal city. Not quite San Fran liberal, but very close.

^^^ yeah but at least it's a blue state

I have no regrets about moving out here from So Cal. The only thing I miss from back home is my friends and the beach. And the beaches are so ****ing crowded that I even hate to venture back out in the surf when I'm there. Luckily when I do paddle out I have plenty of friends in the line up that are happy to see me back.
Whenever I do go back I also feel that vib...it's like I have to put on my "hood" tude.
That's not the case here.

Danny

I am going to have to agree with Danny. I miss my friends, my family, and the "vibe". i dont miss all the stuck up brats that infest that whole area. I was born and raised in mission viejo, the same way everyone else was raised (spoiled to an extent). i didnt let it go to my head like 45% of the people i knew. Anyways, i love it out here. the people are great, weather is ok, and the girls are less maintenance. If i ever need/want to go back home its an hour and forty five min. flight or a 9.5 hour drive. As for pay and whatnot, i make OK money and am able to survive just fine out here. the above statement about houses is pretty much right on the dot.if you have any other questions feel free to shoot me a PM

robert

I also moved here from california, i however moved here for college, I like it here, that is why i stayed, the weather is great, I love skiing though, and yeah houses here are down right cheap compared to parts of california, for an example I live in brand new 4000sq ft custom home here, that was about the same price as my mom's house that is only about 1000sq ft, and very old.

house value keeps going up. Communting is easy, cost of living is relatively mild. Night life isn't bad if you know how to make it happen.

Salt lake and San fran are not even close.The first thing you have to get used to is alot of places not open on sunday.For somebody that lives in Logan it might seem liberal.There is some decent restraunts not alot mostly chain type places.The summers are great I hate the winter but I am a golfer so I deal with it.If you are an outdoor type person it's one of the best places I have lived.The traffic isn't that bad the schools are ok not alot of crime and the roads suck.What part of cal are you from

Hey guys I Thank all of you who have replied, I live in the Bay Area with my parents still and I work in Construction, I'm a carpenter been doing it for about 2 years but before that I worked at a grocery warehouse store kind of like Costco !!! I'm looking to move to Utah because the cost of living is cheap out there, here in the Bay Area you and your spouse have to be making over 100k just to live comfortable. !!! A 3 bedroom house more compared to a shack cost on average about 500k-550k. I love the outdoors thats one of the main reasons I want to move there. I've been looking at houses in Layton,Ut and they seem huge and almost dirt cheap for us. But my main concern is being able to find a job that pays over 35k out there. Any one have suggestions ??? How much do construction workers make if anyone knows ??? Any replies would be greatly appreciated !!!

well... construction is booming, i am not sure of the pay though.

Do it and you won't regret it. I was born in cali the same place as car_cursed, fairfield, CA. And I moved here for college. Never left because I like it here, nice weather, clean and the suby crowd is really cool. I like visiting CA but wouldn't live there again. Me and car_Cursed thought about it like 2 yrs ago but have since changed our minds. We like our house and the fact we have a garage for four project cars... :lol:

Thanks guys all of you are making my decision to leave cali that much easier !!! Keep any comments or suggestions coming !!! THANKS :)

i work in construction and you can make 35k if you have the experience but i don't think you could start out at that unless you started your own business but then again im just in remodeling so don't know what kinda of construction your in?

As long as you know what you are doing you will be able to find a decent job here in that trade.

hey Guys Thinking About Relocating !!!

Whats It Like Living In Utah, I'm From California And It Is Rediculous Wanting To Buy A House Out Here !!! I'm Thinkging About Heading Out To Salt Lake City Area ! Hows Life Out There ? How Do The Jobs Pay , Whats The Cost Of Living ??? Any Info Would Be Greatly Appreciated !!!!
Well its full of Mormons if thats what you want to know. :lol:

Meh, Utah isnt bad at all. I am a relocate'ee from Modesto. When I moved here many years ago, you could tell there was a major mormon influence on everything. Now, it is not nearly as present. Most places are now open on Sunday (except car dealerships). A lot of places usually close earlier on Sunday, but they are open. I remember back when the bus system did not run on Sundays.

Life is good here, but the pay could use some work. I think it depends on the field you are in though.

Meh, Utah isnt bad at all. I am a relocate'ee from Modesto. When I moved here many years ago, you could tell there was a major mormon influence on everything. Now, it is not nearly as present. Most places are now open on Sunday (except car dealerships). A lot of places usually close earlier on Sunday, but they are open. I remember back when the bus system did not run on Sundays.

Life is good here, but the pay could use some work. I think it depends on the field you are in though.
Bet 'ya still can't get a double Jack-n-Coke anywhere in the state though. :lol:

Not leagally....But I have only been to 1 bar that denied me. UMMMM Jack-n-Coke sounds nice........

Thought i would bring this thread back to life. :)

I've recently decided that best thing for me to do is relocate. Utah is one of my top 3 picks.

I am a letter carrier in the Post Office, and love the fact that i can transfer anywhere in the united states with NY pay rate. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind.

1. Would i be accepted if i am not a mormon (LDS)?

2. What cities would have the most mail volume?

3. Does your mailmain drive a postal truck in the winter time? I've heard they use subarus in colorado!!!!

I am of another christian faith that doesn't go to church on a regular basis, and i am very open minded on how people choose to live their lives. And most of all I respect ALL religions.

I also moved from cali to here. Slc is not to bad. Good amount of stuff to do. Just alot of people are very ignorant.

Thought i would bring this thread back to life. :)

I've recently decided that best thing for me to do is relocate. Utah is one of my top 3 picks.

I am a letter carrier in the Post Office, and love the fact that i can transfer anywhere in the united states with NY pay rate. I have a couple of questions if you don't mind.

1. Would i be accepted if i am not a mormon (LDS)?

2. What cities would have the most mail volume?

3. Does your mailmain drive a postal truck in the winter time? I've heard they use subarus in colorado!!!!

I am of another christian faith that doesn't go to church on a regular basis, and i am very open minded on how people choose to live their lives. And most of all I respect ALL religions.

slc will have the highest volume.

my postman drives a truck year round but parks it on one end of the street. my street has on house boxes. theres some neighborhoods around that only have mail boxes on one side of the street to convience the mailman. just depends on what route you get.

again with the religion depends on where you live and where you go to
socialize. also if you have kids. one of our transplants is having issues with his kids being accepcted but id say adults arent as much of biggots (sp) yet kids need someone to learn from so that may not be the case.


stay in the slc metro area. youll be fine

i did a search on post offices in salt lake city, and there is quite a few. That is great to know :banana: Now the only way i would get to transfer is if there is an opening in one of the offices :rolleyes:. Now this is where the research comes in. I wonder how the price of homes is gonna be in 2yrs out in utah? It can actually take a while for me to transfer due to openings thats why im asking. The prices are ridiculous out here on long island. Its one of the most expensive places to live in the country besides hawaii. In Utah, i would love to live in an area with awesome views of the mountains/lakes, but im assuming that the prices go way up. The only thing im concerned about is delivering mail in the winter time when there is a ton of snow. We get some pretty hairy winters out here in long island, but i bet its nothing compared to Utah.

How would people view me when they hear my accent? ;) I hope they like new yawwkers, especially long islanders because we have the strongest accents of all. Kinda like brooklyn accents. hehe...

I have some friends that moved out here a few years ago from the Queens area. They have a pretty nice spread in Murray. A lot more home than they had back in NY. I think that they really like it here and don't think that they have any regrets.

No one can predict what the housing will be in the next 2 years. At the moment it is on the high side for this area, compared to the cost of living.

I have never had to deal with the winters that you have back east, but I can say that down here in the valley the snow is nothing compared to what our mountains get (500"+). The air is very dry here, which is why Utah boasts the “greatest snow on earth”.

Hope this helps a little bit.

Thats great to know that your friends from queens don't have any regrets and feel like they have much more "home" than out here. I am sure the way of life is soo much different from what they were used to. Its such a fast paced life out here in long island and queens. I can't imagine how much more congested its gonna be in 10-20 years.. thats why i got to get the out. The quality of life is going down hill.. my neighborhood used to be nice 10yrs ago. Now its turned into a dump... with much more crime and abandoned business'.

So im assuming that the winters in Utah are not as cold as say... Chicago? When i was in boot camp out there... all i can say is w0w! The air was the coldest i've ever felt... it was like being at the summit at Mt. Snow in vermont with crazy winds and such.

I lived in seattle and the winters there were kind of similar to the ones we have back here. The only thing i thought about when i first decided to relocate to Utah was.. I just pictured myself in 14' of snow delivering mail in a snow plow. So thats good to know that there isn't as much snow as i thought. I like a lot of snow, but when im snowboarding lolz.

we havent had really heavy snow lately.

last time the snow was just redic was back when i was six. so 14 years ago. lately you can get around on summer tires 95% of the time durring the winter.

^^^ Although, I wouldn't recommend it. All it takes is one bad snow day. Just ask David.

i see that. 95% is pretty good to me. im not driving parleys every other day though

David's crash I believe was in the "spagetti bowl", in mid-day.

:( :(

1. Would i be accepted if i am not a mormon (LDS)?


I am of another christian faith that doesn't go to church on a regular basis, and i am very open minded on how people choose to live their lives. And most of all I respect ALL religions.


Azn2nr was alluding to this thread.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1291593

Allthough I am admittedly biased, as you can see from my responses in said thread, I don't think its quite as rosey as some might say. In general LDS people are some of the most biggoted, hypocritical, holier than thou people I've ever met. Especially when dealing with those who live in Zion. I would like to think that by choosing your local carefully you could avoid any issues, but I doubt it.

For Mormons in general, again especially those in Zion, their religion is all consuming. And they will never forget that you are a "non-member." This stigma has the ability to interupt all aspects of your life, your livelyhood, your housing, and your family. Once they figure out that you can't be converted you'll be shunned.

Again this is just my opinion, take it as you will. Although it is pretty country out there, you couldn't pay me a million dollars to live in Utah or Idaho.

Ohh and...

IBmormonrmicmembersaysthatI'mlyingsothattheycancon vertyou.:devil:

I agree..



The more we experience the more amazing it is, I am in 'happy valley' though.
Take a good look around and choose carefully espicially were kids are concerned, listen to the guys on here...

To be honest I am thinking CKFU EM:devil: (the neighbours)
[quote=D fresh;18585801]Azn2nr was alluding to this thread.
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1291593

Allthough I am admittedly biased, as you can see from my responses in said thread, I don't think its quite as rosey as some might say. In general LDS people are some of the most biggoted, hypocritical, holier than thou people I've ever met. Especially when dealing with those who live in Zion. I would like to think that by choosing your local carefully you could avoid any issues, but I doubt it.

For Mormons in general, again especially those in Zion, their religion is all consuming. And they will never forget that you are a "non-member." This stigma has the ability to interupt all aspects of your life, your livelyhood, your housing, and your family. Once they figure out that you can't be converted you'll be shunned.

Dude I started out in Hawaii, then lived in San Diego for like 8 years. Just stay where you are. Utah is the worst place I have ever lived. I mean don't get me wrong. It has some beautiful country and there is a ton of out doors stuff to do. But the people are something else. Traffic is hell and then some, cause people drive like ****. If your non LDS (mormon) your kinda ****ed, especially if you have kids. People are very up-tight, and there is some sort of drama around every corner. I am currently considering a move back to La Jolla!

I'm wondering how many of you know Mormon history. In its early years in the 1800s, the Mormons were driven out of every city they tried to settle, extermination orders authorized on them by state governors, mobs attacked them and killed their women and children, etc. People were bigoted against them. The only reason they moved to Salt Lake was to get away from all the persecution. A lot of UT Mormons are ancestors of these pioneers that left their homes in the east and came to SLC. I think deep down inside they may still feel 'cautious' around 'non-members'. Not all of them mind you, but maybe some of them? Just a theory.

Not all Mormons are bad (most are great), just look at good ol' Donny: http://youtube.com/watch?v=GWc6QQ9JlMc :lol::lol::lol:

hey thanks for the replies guys. I will be sure to do an intense amount of research and possibly take a trip out in the winter for a snowboarding trip with my wife. But just thinking about it.. i don't think a ski trip would make us decide on relocating. I know for a fact that the snow would suck us in and we would want to move for sure cos its "the greatest snow on earth"... but i think we really wouldn't be able to get a feel for the people cos we would be doing our own thing with each other and wouldn't notice how people live their lives. I am assuming we would have to make a 2 month trip for us to decide and i don't have that many vacation days lol. BTW, we are 30 with no kids, and it would definitely break my wifes heart if she knew we and our kids wouldn't be accepted in the community. That just annoys me.

thanks
jesse

[LEFT]I'm wondering how many of you know Mormon history. In its early years in the 1800s, the Mormons were driven out of every city they tried to settle, extermination orders authorized on them by state governors, mobs attacked them and killed their women and children, etc. People were bigoted against them. The only reason they moved to Salt Lake was to get away from all the persecution. A lot of UT Mormons are ancestors of these pioneers that left their homes in the east and came to SLC. I think deep down inside they may still feel 'cautious' around 'non-members'. Not all of them mind you, but maybe some of them? Just a theory.


Yes, I know the history. But that is no excuse.

hey thanks for the replies guys. I will be sure to do an intense amount of research and possibly take a trip out in the winter for a snowboarding trip with my wife. But just thinking about it.. i don't think a ski trip would make us decide on relocating. I know for a fact that the snow would suck us in and we would want to move for sure cos its "the greatest snow on earth"... but i think we really wouldn't be able to get a feel for the people cos we would be doing our own thing with each other and wouldn't notice how people live their lives. I am assuming we would have to make a 2 month trip for us to decide and i don't have that many vacation days lol. BTW, we are 30 with no kids, and it would definitely break my wifes heart if she knew we and our kids wouldn't be accepted in the community. That just annoys me.

thanks
jesse

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are some great communities out there. Its just that for me I wouldn't take the gamble.

I'm wondering how many of you know Mormon history. In its early years in the 1800s, the Mormons were driven out of every city they tried to settle, extermination orders authorized on them by state governors, mobs attacked them and killed their women and children, etc. People were bigoted against them. The only reason they moved to Salt Lake was to get away from all the persecution. A lot of UT Mormons are ancestors of these pioneers that left their homes in the east and came to SLC. I think deep down inside they may still feel 'cautious' around 'non-members'. Not all of them mind you, but maybe some of them? Just a theory.

Not all Mormons are bad (most are great), just look at good ol' Donny: http://youtube.com/watch?v=GWc6QQ9JlMc :lol::lol::lol:


As the early members of the LDS faith would relocate, they would alienate their new neighbors by saying We are the chosen ones and if you do not believe the way we do you will lose all you have because the lord is going to take your belongings away and give it to us. *note* at the time of the early beginnings of the LDS church this is what they were promised and taught. So the people who had clear cut away their farms would hear this and be pissed off. They would then run off the Mormans to protect their land and farms. Just a FYI.