I am pleased to announce that TiC is now a distributor of the Psi3 data monitors. Tony and I have been playing with these for a couple of weeks now, and we are very happy with them so we have order up a few more. Currently, we have one left in stock from our initial purchase. It's a black face/black buttons with green (nicely matches the WRX gauges) display.

Here's the description we have on our site about them:

The Psi3 ECU monitor is a device designed to monitor the sensors and operation of the vehicle engine management system, and assist the driver with performance information and useful diagnostic information when a fault occurs.

The monitor reads its information directly from the vehcle ECU via a bi-directional serial communications link via the OBD-II connector and updates the display data approximately five times every second. The user is able to customize the data points displayed based upon personal preferences. The data is displayed on a 2x24 character vacuum fluorescent display, and is controlled by four buttons. The unit does not interfere with the operaiton of the vehicle in any way (except ECU reset function).

Here are some of the data points that are monitored by the Psi3 unit.

* Boost Pressure (BAR or PSI)
* Intake air temp (C or F) This is NOT charge temp
* Coolant temp (C or F)
* Engine speed (RPM)
* Battery volts
* Throttle Position % (some cars have limited range EG 5-85%)
* Road speed (KPH or MPH)
* Ignition advance (deg. BTDC)
* Air flow (Grams/sec)
* Lambda Ratio
* Knock correction degrees
* Injector duration (milliseconds)
* Exhuast gas temp (WRX only, stock EGT probe only)
* Time of day
* Oil temp (requires external sensor kit)
* Oil pressure (requires external sensor kit)

Additionally the monitor will display:

* Peak boost
* Peak coolant temp
* Peak RPM
* Peak road speed

In additon to monitoring all that data you also get all sorts of other cool features such as user definable alarms for the following:

* Low battery voltage
* High battery voltage
* Overboost condition
* High coolant temp
* High oil temp
* Low oil pressure

On top of all that you can set the unit up to for a shift light, automatic water/methanol spray control (many folks use this for automatic I/C spray), displaying CEL codes, and resetting the ECU. Shift light and spray control require external relays and parts.

Standard shipping faceplate and buttons are black. Silver and carbon fiber faceplates are available as an upgrade.


Here's a quick pic of one:
http://turninconcepts.com/images/psi3_din_2_big.jpg

Here's the link to the Psi3 area on our site:
http://turninconcepts.com/index.php?cPath=1_126_127

Great product!..I love mine..

holla when you get the cf faces. :banana:

Me too. Guys ask me about it all the time.

What about software upgrades ?

The Simons don't seem to be to eager to answer e-mails.

Also, What about display upgrades ? Mine still has the LCD that gets affected by heat. Once again no answer from the Simons to many e-Mails. And the company that I bought it from is out of business :mad:

CF faceplates will be an extra that you can buy. In fact, we've got three coming in, and one is already spoken for by someone who wants to change their old faceplate out. Oh, wait, I think it's you. Never mind. :lol:

No screen upgrades from the old LCD systems. At least that I'm aware of, but I can certainly ask about it.

The software for the units out now is frozen, and I am not sure about upgrades to it as I believe they have been spending their time on trying to get the new graphical version on the market in a timely manner.

They really need to add support for an external sensor EGT. I've been waiting for that for a long time. It really seems like a pretty glaring omission.

They really need to add support for an external sensor EGT. I've been waiting for that for a long time. It really seems like a pretty glaring omission.The have that on them. http://www.psi3.co.uk/index.php

The standard display will read EGT from the stock ECU and stock EGT on the WRX. It will not read it from an additional EGT probe like one you would install in yoru header.

The new graphical ones will, but they are not released yet.

Tony and I have been thinking about extending and relocating the stock EGT probe into the header to see what that will do as that might be a cheap and easy solution to this without having to add programming.

The standard display will read EGT from the stock ECU and stock EGT on the WRX. It will not read it from an additional EGT probe like one you would install in yoru header.

The new graphical ones will, but they are not released yet.

Tony and I have been thinking about extending and relocating the stock EGT probe into the header to see what that will do as that might be a cheap and easy solution to this without having to add programming.

I don't know if that will work. Since the ECU sees that temp and uses it in its calculations. It might throw CEL's since the temp range may be different. Just a thought.

My questions...

1. Plug and play?
2. 06 STi compatible?
3. Red lighting available to match sti?
4. any way of making it EGT capable on the sti?
5. Do you have what I am asking for in stock?

I don't know if that will work. Since the ECU sees that temp and uses it in its calculations. It might throw CEL's since the temp range may be different. Just a thought.

We were thinking that too. That's why we're going to try it and see what happens. Nice thing is that with the monitor we'll be able to see if it pulls timing, or ups the IDC to try and run more rich to cool things off.

My questions...

1. Plug and play?
2. 06 STi compatible?
3. Red lighting available to match sti?
4. any way of making it EGT capable on the sti?
5. Do you have what I am asking for in stock?

1) Yes. It plugs into your OBD-II port. You can disconnect the connector from the dash housing so it tucks nicely up under there as opposed to having the connector stick out. The only exception to the P-N-P setup is the case of the oil pressure and oil temp sensors. Oil temp sensor goes into the block at the oil galley below the throttlebody. Oil pressure replaces the stock OP sensor below the alternator.
2) Yes.
3) Yes. I went with Blue though to match the stereo.
4) Nope. Not on this model
5) We have a red one on order, and coming from across the pond. It should be here within the next couple of weeks or so.

The new graphical one I guess will have egt capabilities...I guess I dont really need it since I have the TXS tuner with wideband, but I would rather have the oprion then not have it.

When willthe graphical one be available and whats the difference, appearance, price...

There is a price difference, but I'm not allowed to post pricing info in the announcement area. I'll PM it to you.

I'll see if I can dig up the graphical device pics, and post them up here. As for release date - I'm not sure.

ok, cool. This is a way better option to me than gauges, looks cleaner IMO also.

For those of you interested - here's some pics of the upcoming new graphical model. This is the standalone enclosure, but there will be DIN mount and pod mount (both pre-02 and post-02).

I do not know the date of the final release. I do not know the final pricing. I do not know when we will be getting them, but we WILL be getting some in.


http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/DSC_0012.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/DSC_0013.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/DSC_0018.jpg
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/DSC_0017.jpg

SEX...

PURE SEX!!!

I want THAT!

(smokey)damnnnn (smokey)
I like that..I imagine it won't be cheap.

My questions...

1. Plug and play?
2. 06 STi compatible?
3. Red lighting available to match sti?
4. any way of making it EGT capable on the sti?
5. Do you have what I am asking for in stock?

i am not trying to discredit a sale but you should know before you buy

do not get the red--it is awesome at night but you can not see sh#t during the day -- even at the brightest setting

trust me i had it and went with the blue and the blue is 1000% better

tic--
can i trade in my blue unit for money towards the graphic version??

i am not trying to discredit a sale but you should know before you buy

do not get the red--it is awesome at night but you can not see sh#t during the day -- even at the brightest setting

trust me i had it and went with the blue and the blue is 1000% better

tic--
can i trade in my blue unit for money towards the graphic version??

A very good point on the red.

I can't take a trade. What the heck would I do with it? All I could do is throw it up in the private for sale area, and you might just have better luck than I with that than I.

I have gotten some word from Simon as to what the new one will be able to do. I have been talking to him on and off about these for the past couple weeks as I, as well as Clint, am very excited about it.

The new units add the following..
EGT sensor input
Fuel pressure sensor input
Custom bitmap images
Dual signal graphing, e.g boost and rpm
Improved data page layout
larger graphical display
Improved graphics
etc..

Planned upgrades..
Data logging ( up to 30 minutes )
Flash software upgrade
Free bitmap generation and data logging software


Tony

the graphical one looks nice. if that can fit into this (http://www.hotsubarus.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=101). I will be very happy

-patrick
:devil:

the graphical one looks nice. if that can fit into this (http://www.hotsubarus.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=101). I will be very happy

-patrick
:devil:
Actually, there would be no need to buy that pod because they will have a pod version available. It will pop into the same spot.

If it's the same setup as the standard display pod setup then it will be the factory pod, but will have a slightly different faceplate to make for a clean install.

-Clint

When the planned upgrades happen (logging) I'm in. Not going to trade my trusty PSI3 vf in just yet, but you are tempting me.

Ok, it's final.. I am holding off buying any guages and waiting for the graphical version. Any idea when launch will be?

Nope. No idea yet. I'll try and find out.

PSI had mentioned a color display as a future upgrade. Did that die?
Will the logging feature be downloadable or just viewable?

PSI had mentioned a color display as a future upgrade. Did that die?
Will the logging feature be downloadable or just viewable?
no idea. no idea. and no idea. Keep in mind the graphical units have not been released, and as such we won't have any idea of all the capabilities until they are released and there's a full product announcement from Psi3.

I almost got the version 1 and I was going to pull it out of the case and modify it, but given this new one, I have some better plans. What are the chances they are going to have clock feature built into this and a green display option? That would increase WAF, and I could probably get one....

I'll try to answer some questions here as I have been talking to Simon lately more than Clint has.

They are supposed to be ready very soon. We are not sure of a hard date yet, but in all the emails I have had he says they are just finishing up some loose end and eludes to a few weeks.

Simon hasn't mentioned a color upgrade yet, but seeing as he has become a large Kenwood deistributor recently and seems to only be selling the LCD units maybe he is working on something for that. I have no idea though.

We still dont' know much about the logging or when it will be available.

I'm sure the new one will have a clock function as the current models do. The new units are not supposed to lose any functionality over the old units as I understand it. I think to begin with it will just be the Blue unit. I am not sure of the display type and if the color can be changed, but if it's anything like the current display maybe a filter can be applied to change the color.

Tony

let me know if you have any other questions. i will do my best to get an answer.

I have an MY06 STi that is completely stock. I wonder sometimes what all my readings and perimeters are. I’m going to wait for the version 2 to be released for my next purchase. Questions:

1. Does it come with full instructions on how to install, and how to neatly tuck away the unwanted wires? Subaru specific
2. Has there ever been any down falls on these PSI3’s (throw CEL, etc…)
3. After purchase does the maker release upgrade software? If so how would I upload it?

They won't throw any CELs. All these do is read off the factory sensors through the factory OBDII connector. Think of it as a very user friendly/expandable OBDII scanner. Wiring is a snap, it is only one wire (at least mine is) It gets power and signal from the OBDII plug.

The only downside I had with mine is that you can't data-log/custom tune with it on. It slows data transfer way down and messes it up. Not really a problem, if you are data-logging with a laptop, you don't need to see what the PSI3 is doing now do you? ;)

I even have the Oil Temp and Oil Pressure sensors on mine. :banana:

dbrier is correct. it is very easy to wire. Comes with pods or din pockets for easy and professional looking install.

The new unit will hook up like the old. It will read most functions just by plugging into the OBD port. Other readings such as oil temp/press and EGT will require wiring additional sensors and require wires to be run through the car to the unit.

I also have the oil temp and pressure sensors for mine.

.......I even have the Oil Temp and Oil Pressure sensors on mine. :banana:

I want these for mine. Were they easy to hook up ? It doesn't look like much for $300.00 though. :eek:

It really isn't much. Just two Greddy sensors. The pressure sensor is the expensive one.
The two sensors go in the block. One goes in the oil plug under the TMIC. The pressure sensor replaces the stock oil sensor (more of a switch really). Because the PSI3 has alarms, you don't need the factory idiot light anyway. You have to move the Alternator out of the way to install then put it back.
Both sensor plug right into the back in their designated spots.

I don't use the pressure much, but I like the oil temp sensor. You wouldn't believe how long it takes for your car to truly warm up.


Am I earning a discount yet? I can have Ron put in a good word for me.

this looks like a very nice alternative to gauges....only problem i would see, this would only read boost as the ecu sees it correct? and can't the ecu only see a certain cap of boost? otherwise, it looks like it can view it all.

I have seen my boost spike to 19.6 lbs (only once), and I can attest that the overboost alert of the unit does work. Now, what's funny is I also have a normal boost gauge still set up in the car, and it has never ever ever shown boost over 17.1 psi. Kinda makes me wonder about that gauge. I'd trust more what the ECU reports since it's the thing changing parameters for what it sees.

I have seen my boost spike to 19.6 lbs (only once), and I can attest that the overboost alert of the unit does work. Now, what's funny is I also have a normal boost gauge still set up in the car, and it has never ever ever shown boost over 17.1 psi. Kinda makes me wonder about that gauge. I'd trust more what the ECU reports since it's the thing changing parameters for what it sees.
Have you ever compared the boost reading on the gauge and psi3(besides over 17.1psi)?? If so how did they match up?

I have tried, but between the boost gauge in the clock pod, the Psi3 in the dash, and my eyes on the road when I'm getting on it it can get a bit difficult to see them fast enough. What I need to do is get someone to ride shotgun so we can check that out.

I have seen my boost spike to 19.6 lbs (only once), and I can attest that the overboost alert of the unit does work. Now, what's funny is I also have a normal boost gauge still set up in the car, and it has never ever ever shown boost over 17.1 psi. Kinda makes me wonder about that gauge. I'd trust more what the ECU reports since it's the thing changing parameters for what it sees.


i can confirm that -- i have seen that about 2 times on mine and the warnings that you can set on the unit work great

great alternative to buying guages imho

Ron says no discount for dbrier!!!! :(

:lol:

You might get one if you invite TiC to your next meet though! :)

Ok, lots of stuff to say here.

GOOD NEWS!!!!! the graphical displays have been released. We have contact PSI3 and have several on the way. They should be here shortly. One thing I didn't realize is the new ones have a built in shift light with buzzer that also serves to warn you of preset conditions that you control. it will also perform peak functions on any data that it reads instead of just the 4 or 5 functions of the VFD models.

I want these for mine. Were they easy to hook up ? It doesn't look like much for $300.00 though. :eek:

Currently the price is 300, but we are working on driving that down. Believe me though, if you race your car both of them are NECESSARY gauge functions.

It really isn't much. Just two Greddy sensors.

Actually they are Defi sensors. I talked to Simon about the use of other sensors and we determined that they Defi ones are the only ones at this time that we know of that will work given their unique design. Most sensors are one wire that ground through the block. This is not the case for the Defi Sensors.

this looks like a very nice alternative to gauges....only problem i would see, this would only read boost as the ecu sees it correct? and can't the ecu only see a certain cap of boost? otherwise, it looks like it can view it all.

You are correct to a certain extent. The ECU calculates boost based on many factors; it doesn't actually read boost. There are cases where the ecu could calculate boost, but actual manifold pressure could be less; boost leak for example. However, both the older and new graphical units have the ability to read boost from a Defi boost sensor. You would hook this up to manifold vauum line and would read the actual boost the engine is seeing, not what the ECU is calculating.

When I had my Autometer boost gauge installed in my wrx I noticed that it always read high over what the Psi3 unit displayed. I am running stage 2 AP right now and would see almost 17.5 with my boost gauge, but only about 16 with the psi3 unit. I have been thinking of ordering a boost sensor to hook up to see if it is different.

I think that's all for now. Let me know if you guys have any more questions.

Tony

You are correct to a certain extent. The ECU calculates boost based on many factors; it doesn't actually read boost. There are cases where the ecu could calculate boost, but actual manifold pressure could be less; boost leak for example. However, both the older and new graphical units have the ability to read boost from a Defi boost sensor. You would hook this up to manifold vauum line and would read the actual boost the engine is seeing, not what the ECU is calculating.
thats awesome, i like that way much better. I guess i would rather trust actual reading versus a computer semi-guessing. (can only read up so far, isn't as accurate as mechanical gauge)

so let me get this right -- the displays are $300 but the vf version that is out now is $600??

so let me get this right -- the displays are $300 but the vf version that is out now is $600??

I think they are referring to the Defi Oil pressure and Oil temperature sending units.

We currently have them listed for $600 for the din mount, but are going to be adjusting pricing with the release of the graphical displays. Stayed tuned for an official announcement.

Tony

We currently have them listed for $600 for the din mount, but are going to be adjusting pricing with the release of the graphical displays. Stayed tuned for an official announcement.

Tony

GET ON IT THEN! :lol:
I am very curious as to how these come out as far as pricing and what not. Any chance you have more information about the color options of the display?

We are finding out about that today. We are hoping it is just a filter like the VFD units. If so we are ordering blue and green that we know of.

Some clarification -

The pod and din mount graphical displays have the shift light and buzzer. The standalone, suction cup to your window version does not.

We will be releasing pricing with the introduction of them on the site. We will do that when they come in.

-Clint

Keep us up to date. It is between this and the new clarity V2 gauges! I guess it will come down to whoever gets the product first :)

Just to clarify this Ron. This unit is for displaying the engine sensors and operations of the vehicle engine management system throught the ODBII port, and NO tuning or adjusting can take place??

Thank you

correct. This is a data monitor only. no tuning with it.

Do you have any plans of the Psi3 oil pressure and temp sensor kit with a Defi boost sensor also?


*edit*
I found some videos on the PSI3 version 1 operating if anybody wants them.
http://www.scoobyworld.co.uk/movies/SECS.MPG
http://www.scoobyworld.co.uk/movies/secs2.MPG

Why do they call it S.E.C.S. Engine Data Monitor? Does they get theres from a different company?
http://www.scoobyworld.co.uk/catalog/product_info.php?Path=0_62&products_id=430
middle of page.

Simons post
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=501990
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=507294

pictures of the new version as seen in simons post:
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/new2.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/new3.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/new4.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/new5.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/new6.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/new8.jpg

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/new10.jpg

thanks,
Omar

I still think the screen should be bigger and in color, but you guys don't make them, just import them.
The display is WAY better than the old ones though.

Hi All, hopefully i can help Clint and Tony out with some questions.
Answers to a few from this page..

Q. Why were the old units denotoed S.E.C.S.
A. Our previous software engineer made a version of the unit for Fords and called them S.E.C.S. we thought it might be good to keep the same name, we no longer use this name.

Q. Do we manufacture our own product.
A. Using our other company www.auwell.co.uk we design, manufacture and assemble all units including the EcuTeK variant in house.

Q. External Boost sensor.
A. All of our units have the option for a external boost sensor ( Defi ) to be wired up.
Our new graphical monitors shown above currently have inputs for Oil Pressure, Oil Temperature, Fuel Pressure and EGT. Additional inputs are planned and all graphical units will be fully upgradeable as and when new features are released.

Q. Larger / colour screen.
A. We are limited to screen size by the displays currently available, we will always ensure our monitors will fit into a single DIN enclosure and at present with our new graphical monitor we have the best display for the job.
Colour is is potential future project but at present we have our hands full with a Autronic ECU version and VAG group 1.8T engine specific monitor.

Also the new graphical monitor now includes a 5mm led mounted on the front panel to act as a shift / warning light, an additional warning light can still be wired up to mount more in the drivers line of sight.
A sounder / buzzer is not included but preparation has been made for it to be added.

Simon Jarvis

www.psi3.co.uk

How visual is the screen on the new version in direct sunlight?

Not answered
3. After purchase does the maker release upgrade software? If so how would I upload it? USB?

[QUOTE=nxttruck2002]How visual is the screen on the new version in direct sunlight?
The pictures above were taken on a sunny afternoon. But as with any type of display/screen the clarity will be reduced by bright light.

Upgrades will be via RS232.
Simon

Hey Simon -

Thanks for helping out with answering some of these questions. BTW, that is one sweet looking shifter setup in that picture above. :)

Simon (or TIC), I have two questions for you.

1. If I use PSi3(both old and newer version) to control my water/alky injection, how does it work?? Does it control progressively OR work like on/off switch??

2. I currently have Defi EGT gauge. Do I still need to purchase your egt sensor kit to work with PSI3?? or Can i unplug sensor-plug from my EGT gauge and plug into the PSI3??


Thank you very much

1. From what I have seen it sends a signal to kick on a pump. It seems to be an all or nothing sort of thing based on boost pressure. I have never run Alky inj with it before, but have wired it as an auto intercooler sprayer.

2. As long as it is a standard k type thermalcoupler that has two wires it should work fine. Simon has told me that the new unit will work just fine with the standard probes.

Tony

this looks like an awsome system.

Any prices on the new version?

Any prices on the new version?
Not yet. I'm outta town so Tony has been running the show, and we haven't had a chance to figure it out. When I get back he and I are going to sit down and figure all that out.

The first ones we ordered are all pod mount as we figure that would be the more popular seller. If simon has not shipped them yet it should be really soon.

Is the new unit VFD or LCD display?

They are VFD

Can't wait for the shipment to come in!..but I might have to get one of the new units.

Just talked to Simon, shipment is going out in a couple days.

The delay has been spent incorporating a buzzer into the unit for shift and warning purposes. he had to rework one of the boards, but has it finished and is getting ready to ship them.

Tony

I'm pretty sure I will get the version 2 DM from you guys in the summer, but I can't decide if I want the din mount or pod (replaces clock) mount version... any pros and/or cons?

Omar

Omar,

Clint and I both have DIN mounts currently are replacing them with the pod mounts. The biggest problem we have with the DIN mounts is that you have to seirously divert your eyes from the road to read the data. This obviously causes a problem. The pod mount does not require one to ldivert attention from the road like the DIN mount.

Tony

Omar,

Clint and I both have DIN mounts currently are replacing them with the pod mounts. The biggest problem we have with the DIN mounts is that you have to seirously divert your eyes from the road to read the data. This obviously causes a problem. The pod mount does not require one to ldivert attention from the road like the DIN mount.

Tony
Thanks, I now know which one I'm going to purchase. :banana:

What are the approximate dimensions of the basic unit? Height/width/depth? Thanks!

What car is in those pictures? WRB STi Forester?

What car is in those pictures? WRB STi Forester?
yep..

Simons ride
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f229/PSi3/DSC_0028.jpg

Where can I get that DIN housing they're using in the pictures? The only ones I can find for the forester have been the stupidly huge Double Din housings. I can't wait until the price is set for the new Psi3 ECU Display... I want one :) And the housing for our shop project car :)

What are the approximate dimensions of the basic unit? Height/width/depth? Thanks!
The din size is about 6"x2"x5". It comes mounted in a standard subaru din pocket. The pod mount is just a bit larger (actually the footprint is the same size as the clock pod) and is the standard Subaru gauge pod.

Could you tell me a rough estimate of what the version 2 is going to cost, so I know what kind of cash i'm looking at here.

Omar

We actually have the pricing ready to go, but of course I do not have that on this computer. :rolleyes: They are going to be 150 ish more than the current models.

This may be a stupid question, but will this work with a JDM V8 ECU?

Thanks

Yep, will work fine.

Any updates??

Any updates??
I'm glad you asked that - our first order of the graphical units left Psi3 the other day, and we should be seeing them soon.

I was curious if you had any pictures showing the BLUE, GREEN and RED?

-for the newer design, not the old.

We ordered up a couple of blue and a couple of green of the new ones, and they shipped to us on Thursday so we'll be able to get those pics up fairly soon (I hope I hope I hope). We didn't get any red in this round as the blue and green seem to be the more popular choices, but we plan on getting at least one red in the next order so we'll eventually be able to get pics of those up.

*subscribe*

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And what a worthy subscription it is...

WE HAVE THEM!!!!

They arrived today and we installed two, a green and a blue in my wrx and Clint's STI. They are awesome!!! More functionality than the last model, more customibility and a MUCH MUCH nicer display. Clint is uploading pics tonight so we should be able to get them here soon. So far so good. We'll have more news on the release very soon.

Tony

I'm ready for pics. While I can't have one, at least I can drool over what I'm missing.

Is customibility a word? Part of your company's strategery? ;)

Will this plug in to the port under the steering wheel or is there somewhere else that it hooks up to? If it does plug into the port under the steering wheel, will it have any effect on accessport users that plug and unplug from there too?

Yes
Yes, but you can fix it.

I have the old version and an Access Port. I cut the harness on the PSI3 unit and hardwired it into the cars OBDII plug. That left the plug open for the access port.
We did discover that you can't custom tune with the PSI3 unit on, it slows the datalogging down too much. Just turn it off to tune or datalog and you will be set.

Here is an idea for you guys at TIC, how about an OBDII extension cord? It would let us PSI3 users read and clear codes from other cars. 25' should do it. :)

Do you have any of the Psi3 still for sale? The new version?

Do you have any of the Psi3 still for sale? The new version?
Technically, we haven't really had any of them up for sale yet. We're still playing around with them, and working out a few kinks that we'd like to see addressed.

We know you guys are really really eager to get your hands on these, but let's be honest here - they are not cheap. And because they are not cheap I want to deliver something with no surprises on fit and finish, and that we can fully support should you run into any problems.

Technically, we haven't really had any of them up for sale yet. We're still playing around with them, and working out a few kinks that we'd like to see addressed.

We know you guys are really really eager to get your hands on these, but let's be honest here - they are not cheap. And because they are not cheap I want to deliver something with no surprises on fit and finish, and that we can fully support should you run into any problems.


This is reassuring!

Omar,

Clint and I both have DIN mounts currently are replacing them with the pod mounts. The biggest problem we have with the DIN mounts is that you have to seirously divert your eyes from the road to read the data. This obviously causes a problem. The pod mount does not require one to ldivert attention from the road like the DIN mount.

Tony
or you could just have me in the passenger seat reading out peak g in a corner (about 1.2 on the banked dragon corners), but then again my fat butt is weighing you down.

or you could just have me in the passenger seat reading out peak g in a corner (about 1.2 on the banked dragon corners), but then again my fat butt is weighing you down.
Hey, I hit 1.3, what are you talking about. But that was from my radio, not the pis3 unit.

Here is an idea for you guys at TIC, how about an OBDII extension cord? It would let us PSI3 users read and clear codes from other cars. 25' should do it. :)
So what I hear you saying is more people need to buy these.....
I agree!!!!

It is a great feature to have though. Another nicety about the new one is if you reset the ecu while driving it will return to full data monitor mode instead of telling you to turn your car off and back on.

just a heads up - the old style VFD standard DIN units that Tony and I tested on our personal rides is up for sale in the vendor > interior forum.

The new version looks sweet! If these become available I may sell my Defi's and get this!

subscribed and PM'd you about the new graphic units. Would love to know when you feel good about sending them to customers.

I have a question will this unit read all parameters like Ignition Advance multiplier and long term and short term fuel?

Both the standard and graphical version shows advance and knock correction in degrees. when you talk abut fuel, and you talkning about MPG? If so, then no.

Considering it reads injector duty cycle and speed it should be able to calculate mileage. All you would need to do is supply the unit with capacity of your injectors.

It doesn't read the multiplier though.

Well I think WrXwaBBit is asking about long and short term fuel trim adjustments the ECU might make and not actual fuel economy.

I'm will dbrier on this one also, I was thinking about that when I saw this unit. It would be very easy for it to guess average economy.

TiC any updates on this?

On the fuel economy metering? No. The device does not do this. I think you're forgetting - we are not the maker of these. we just distribute them; we do not program them.

As for the overall with the graphical version - we've got one thing I think resolved, and we're waiting for some other things to test for function and compatability. If they work as we expect them too then we're good to go.

*subscribed* this will be my next purchase

me wants one,bad.

I just sent you guys an email through your website...let me know.

We should be getting in the EGT sensors tomorrow, which is the last part we need to check.

Tony

Sounds great, keep us posted

Bump for update.

Looks like a really cool product.

EGT probes we got in did not work. We're looking into what the deal is.

Any luck? =)

We have engineered a small, add on unit to allow the use of the EGT sensor TiC prefer, i mailed Tony yesterday so i'm sure he will be along soon.
Simon
www.psi3.co.uk

^^^^ What he said. We'd love to go with a CNT type probe like what is used for the UP probe (as it wouldn't require a change to the Psi3 unit), but there's the problem of heat when you put it in the header as close to the exhaust ports as possible. It is possible to get a CNT probe made that will withstand the heat, but it won't withstand it for long, and it would be stupidly expensive.

Instead, as Simon said above, they're making a board that will allow a K-type probe to be used. While this gets you the advantage of using any K type probe Tony is working on getting some custom made that will be extremely rugged, really high quality, and very quick reacting. Oh, and this probe will be at a realistic price as opposed to a $300+ CNT that won't last long.

-Clint

bump for an update

Tony talked to Simon on Thursday, and he's sending us some of the new boards to test. On top of that the probes we'll be testing them with should be here either today or tomorrow.

-Clin

Tony talked to Simon on Thursday, and he's sending us some of the new boards to test. On top of that the probes we'll be testing them with should be here either today or tomorrow.

-Clin
Actually they came in on Friday. They look...exactly like the last ones we ordered. I will try to get some pics up later tonight.

They did?! Well, that'll teach me to be out of town.

Do the new units support IAM display like the EcuTek ones do or is there any plan to add this VERY IMPORTANT parameter to the list of things monitored. I don't know why PSI didn't have it supported on the first version. It's certainly nothing that EcuTek can copyright... it's an SSM supported parameter after all.

The unit shows "Ignition advance (deg. BTDC)", does the IAM really change enough to require it?

The unit shows "Ignition advance (deg. BTDC)", does the IAM really change enough to require it?

It's not that it changes all the time. It's more along the lines of knowing whether or not it's at a certain level or not. For instance if I got a bad tank of gas and the IAM drops a few levels I'd like to know. Just knowing your KC values and ignition timing alone is not enough to give an "overall" idea of the ECU's level of timing control. It would be nice to have this as a parameter. After all, you get all the other values... why would you want to bust out a laptop just to tell you the info for one parameter. That's just silly.

I agree with you, but the new version does not list that function. I will check with Simon as to wether or not it can be added.

Tony

^^^ Thanks, when will you get the new versions and what's the price. Your site lists the PSI3, but shows the old version pics. Maybe I'm just misreading something.

Nope, you read it correctly. That is the older version. We haven't put the new one up on the site yet as we haven't released it...but that should change very soon.

The new unit is going to be around 800, but final pricing has yet to be determined.

Here are some pics of the new unit in my wrx. They are crappy, but you can at least get a feel for what it looks like as I think all other pics are in Simon's Forester. This is with the optional pod mount.

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/401000-401999/401644_183_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/401000-401999/401644_184_full.jpg
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http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/401000-401999/401644_186_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/401000-401999/401644_187_full.jpg
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/5/web/401000-401999/401644_188_full.jpg

can this be hardwired? I know it gets it's power from the OBD port. However if your tuner has his laptop plugged in you wouldn't be able to read the External EGT and oil pressure during tuning.

can this be hardwired? I know it gets it's power from the OBD port. However if your tuner has his laptop plugged in you wouldn't be able to read the External EGT and oil pressure during tuning.
I'm sure it's possible, but you wouldn't want to do it. The ECU, more specifically OBD port, has a limited bandwidth for which to send and recieve info. If you try to do live tuning via say the Protuner and try to read data you will have problems. You want your tuner pulling as much info as possible as quickly as possible from the OBD port for tuning.

That being said, last week I had my car tuned by Jorge at PnL (hey, we're suspension guys) and he did not feel the need to have oil temp and pressure. He gauges engine temp off the coolant temp read by the ECU. Oil pressure should hopefully not be much of a concern if your car is put together well enough and the tuner knows what he's doing.

It's not that it changes all the time. It's more along the lines of knowing whether or not it's at a certain level or not. For instance if I got a bad tank of gas and the IAM drops a few levels I'd like to know. Just knowing your KC values and ignition timing alone is not enough to give an "overall" idea of the ECU's level of timing control. It would be nice to have this as a parameter. After all, you get all the other values... why would you want to bust out a laptop just to tell you the info for one parameter. That's just silly.

That makes more sense, thanks.

If you were to disconnect the psi3 unit from the OBD port it would be nice to still have power to see your external sensors (EGT).

If you were to disconnect the psi3 unit from the OBD port it would be nice to still have power to see your external sensors (EGT).
That's a good point. It should be easy to keep power as it is just + and -. Oddly enough it pulls all the ECU data from just one wire. I will try that.

Ummm, didn't the old units pull power from the clock power lead or something like that. I seem to remember reading that in the install instructions... maybe it was EcuTek's version... basically the same thing.

I can answer some of this since I have one that is:
hardwired
protuned and
has external sensors

subieworx is right on this stuff.

Yes, it can be hardwired. The PSI3 unit only has three wires that come from the OBDII port. Just match the wires and splice them in. This leaves the port free for tuning.

No, you cannot tune and run the PSI3 unit at the same time, it uses too much bandwidth. When my car was protuned by PDX, we just turned it off and everything was fine. When we tried to run it and monitor with the Cobb Protune software, PDX could not pull data fast enough.

No the old units did not use power from any other source, they got signal and power from the OBDII port. I don't know about the ECUTEK stuff, maybe they do.

While technically possible to run power from a separate source and still read your external sensors, it would be more pain that it is worth. All your other readings would be 0 and may even set off alarms.


Something useful to have on these would be an input for a wide-band O2. :)

Ummm, didn't the old units pull power from the clock power lead or something like that. I seem to remember reading that in the install instructions... maybe it was EcuTek's version... basically the same thing.
No. They have always drawn power straight from the OBD port. I actually have one of the first generation LCD versions right now in the garage.

Something useful to have on these would be an input for a wide-band O2. :)

Something I just thought of today oddly enough.

http://home.fuse.net/wrxrob513/psi1.jpg
http://home.fuse.net/wrxrob513/psi2.jpg


Just adding another few pictures. :D

enough with the teasing, when can we buy one! =)

http://home.fuse.net/wrxrob513/psi1.jpg
http://home.fuse.net/wrxrob513/psi2.jpg


Just adding another few pictures. :D
I like it and I'm going to buy it. One thing that bothers me though are the gaps between the pod and the dash. Is that going to be fixed when it's released or will we have to live with it?

I like it and I'm going to buy it. One thing that bothers me though are the gaps between the pod and the dash. Is that going to be fixed when it's released or will we have to live with it?
That is the standard Subaru pod straight from the source. Mine fits rather well with no gaps, but lolsti's has a small bulge of the pod in the front. A small piece of double sided tape would fix the problem. We also have new face plates coming that are a hair bigger than the ones in the pics. It will eliminate the gap between the unit and the pod.

That is the standard Subaru pod straight from the source. Mine fits rather well with no gaps, but lolsti's has a small bulge of the pod in the front. A small piece of double sided tape would fix the problem. We also have new face plates coming that are a hair bigger than the ones in the pics. It will eliminate the gap between the unit and the pod.
This is good news!

I've read a few threads about OBDII readers not being able to access information on EcuTek reflashed ECU's. Will this be an issue for the PSI3?

This is good news!

I've read a few threads about OBDII readers not being able to access information on EcuTek reflashed ECU's. Will this be an issue for the PSI3?
Yes. The ECU data will not be able to be read while something else is accessing the OBD port for tuning purposes, but there is wiring directions that will will allow the unit to still read external sensors (oil temp, oil press, fuel press, egt, boost with optional sensor).

Yes. The ECU data will not be able to be read while something else is accessing the OBD port for tuning purposes, but there is wiring directions that will will allow the unit to still read external sensors (oil temp, oil press, fuel press, egt, boost with optional sensor).
I'm referring to EcuTek using some sort of block to deny open source loggers. Give me a few minutes to search for a link.

I already know what you are talking about. The official word from Ecutek is they don't do anything to the ECU that would prevent reading. I have never heard of anyone having a problem with the PSI3 unit and Ecutek tuning software. However, the four of us in the states right now testing them are all tuned on Accessports or with the Protuner.

I already know what you are talking about. The official word from Ecutek is they don't do anything to the ECU that would prevent reading. I have never heard of anyone having a problem with the PSI3 unit and Ecutek tuning software. However, the four of us in the states right now testing them are all tuned on Accessports or with the Protuner.
Got it, thanks.

This is so tempting, I was planning a recent gauge purchase, but have been following this thread to see if I can hold out for this unit. It seems like it's gonna be nice. Keep us posted

Monday bump for info? =)

Sent them a probe for testing with the new circuit on Saturday. I expect it will be good. They have also made a number of updates to the system to improve it, and work out a few things that were bothering them. I expect to hear some news on the probes within a couple of weeks.

They have also made a number of updates to the system to improve it

Any word on what those improvements might be?

Any word on what those improvements might be?

Any word on my Fluke? :furious:

Just the way it operates, the board layout, and a few other things. Mostly things that are transparent to the enduser.

Ron, what fluke are you talking about? It's not coming from us is it?

are you taking orders for the new ones yet??

Any word on my Fluke? :furious:
How about returning my phone calls, ass :)

Ron, what fluke are you talking about? It's not coming from us is it?No, it's coming from me.

are you taking orders for the new ones yet??
No we are not. We will not be taking any pre-orders on these.

How about returning my phone calls, ass :)

I will be calling you later butt shark, I gotta wait until you get off work in the Baby Navy. You know...time difference and all. I tried to call Tom earlier and he didn't pick up. I think he's eating a carbon fiber burrito.

No....the Fluke is something krazyK1371 said he's hook a brother up with. He's my #2 California Tom. #1 Tom hooks me up. #1 Tom = no hook ups + bitching when #1 Tom hooks me up.

I will be calling you later butt shark, I gotta wait until you get off work in the Baby Navy. I'm home right now Sailor boy. I took a few days off of leave...I needed them.

BTW I ate carne asada burritos twice this weekend! I thought about you the whole time as I gorged myself ;)

I will kill you and your whole family! Well....I'll keep your wife and mother in law as they feed me well. :) You on the other hand are a dead man! :furious:

I'll give you a ring in 20 minutes or so.

I will kill you and your whole family! Well....I'll keep your wife and mother in law as they feed me well. :) You on the other hand are a dead man! :furious:

I'll give you a ring in 20 minutes or so.
Big Ron, your going to need to change your sig to sponsored by KrazyK1371!!!!

I will when I get a box containing my toys from San Diego!

Sorry for our thread jack Tony/Clint, we'll be nice and professional from now on!

I will when I get a box containing my toys from San Diego!

Sorry for our thread jack Tony/Clint, we'll be nice and professional from now on!
You? professional? UNPOSSIBLE!!

.......Sorry for our thread jack Tony/Clint, we'll be nice and professional from now on!

:lol: Well, I thought it was funny. It was a lot better than reading eleventybillion " Bump For An Update "

i would like to buy this if they add in IAM parameter to view.

:lol: Well, I thought it was funny. It was a lot better than reading eleventybillion " Bump For An Update "
Bump for an Update!

Really quick - our new K type probe looks to be working after a board update. Tony has been talking to the Psi3 folks so hopefully he'll chime in in the morning and give a full update.

You more or less have it. As soon as I can get the software update done (Clint, we have to build your cable) we will be able to test it and see if it works....which it should. Then we are ready for release!!!

Will the new unit work with the sensor from the old units (the Defi ones)? I already have the Oil pressure and temp sensors in the car.

Will the new unit work with the sensor from the old units (the Defi ones)? I already have the Oil pressure and temp sensors in the car.
Yep, same sensors are used for the new ones.

i would like to buy this if they add in IAM parameter to view.
IAM? Idle Air Mixture? Just want to make sure we're thinking of the same acronym.

Ignition Advance Multiplier.

Ignition Advance Multiplier.
I.E. 1 or 0 on the STi. 1-16 (?) on the WRX.

I.E. 1 or 0 on the STi. 1-16 (?) on the WRX.
Yeah, it's called something else on the STI and doesn't quite work the same way.

I will talk to Simon about it.

Ignition Advance Multiplier.
DOH! yeah, I guess that would be a different IAM than I was thinking.

Ok folks - we believe we have everything ironed out on these. We'll be putting them up as a product soon so you can get an idea of pricing. We'll be placing the initial order soon, but if there's enough interest we can put together a first shipment group buy.

Now, of course, it'll be a GB in teh GB area, and since we're only allowed one GB at a time it'll have to take place after the 6Gun Racing Ball Joint relocator GB.

I'm tracking this thread. IF/When you decide to do a GB could you please put a link here so we can find it easier? Thanks.

so could you add on the IAM?

Good question. Tony was going to ask Simon that. I'll check with him.

Not yet, but he is working on it.

I'm tracking this thread. IF/When you decide to do a GB could you please put a link here so we can find it easier? Thanks.
+1234

Bumpoids..

have a green vf.. would love to pick up the new graphical..

any idea on cost in usd?

Bumpoids..

have a green vf.. would love to pick up the new graphical..

any idea on cost in usd?
We've got a good idea. I need to get them up on the site so you guys can start to budget. I've also got Tony emailing Psi3 to place our initial order.

Units are on the site for an idea of price.
http://turninconcepts.com

so could you add on the IAM?
Update on IAM - no go. Since the WRX and STi do IAM differently, but use the same ECU channel it would require making specific models for the WRX and the STi.

i hope there is a group buy because that price is way high from when i bought my 2 units

i hope there is a group buy because that price is way high from when i bought my 2 units
The price on the graphical units is higher than the older VFD units due to increased fucntionality. I can assure you that these are the calculated prices from RBP to $$ that is set by the parent company.

Looking at it from a different angle though, if you comapre the price and functionality of this unit (with gauge sensors) to say a 3 gauge defi setup with pod (pretty much the same price), you get MANY more options, much more functionality and 10 times the number of gauges.

The price on the graphical units is higher than the older VFD units due to increased fucntionality. I can assure you that these are the calculated prices from RBP to $$ that is set by the parent company.

Looking at it from a different angle though, if you comapre the price and functionality of this unit (with gauge sensors) to say a 3 gauge defi setup with pod (pretty much the same price), you get MANY more options, much more functionality and 10 times the number of gauges.


don't get me wrong i will no doubt end up getting one--i just can't believe how much they went up in price--i do know the benefits with these over conventional guages

That's the price I pretty much expected. Two questions.

1. When can we actually order one

2. Which display color is the easiest to read in all conditions (I don't care if it matches my interior)

That's the price I pretty much expected. Two questions.

1. When can we actually order one

2. Which display color is the easiest to read in all conditions (I don't care if it matches my interior)
Technically, you could order it now, but do us a favor and wait until they arrive (we just ordered 3 blues, and 3 greens)

Green is the easiest color to read. We're also looking into something to replace the gels on it currently to something that would allow more color through. I'm seeking some feedback from a lighting guy at ETC that I know to see if our idea would work.

Yeah that's what I was affraid of. What's the original color? White? Can I get one without gels on it at all? It's not that green is bad, but I prefer something as easy to read as possible.

VF is a greenish blue with no filters.

Yeah that's what I was affraid of. What's the original color? White? Can I get one without gels on it at all? It's not that green is bad, but I prefer something as easy to read as possible.
Blue is not that much different than green viewing wise. Either way (as with all displays of this type including the stock sti gauges) when hit with direct sunlight it becomes a bit more difficult to read. However, even driving around in afternoon soon I have never had a time where it has been blocked out from vision for more than 15 secs or so.

We don't currently have a clear lense for the display, which is what you would want if you were to want a "white" display. I say "white" as it is a greenish white color, not true white.

We are looking into doing a polarized filter on the screen instead of a tint as this will make it much brighter. If anyone has a means of attaining larger sheets of polarizing filters let us know.

What EGT and FP sensors would you use with this as I see they are required to get those functions to work. Also, have you considered a package deal including all the extra sensors, not just the oil pressure/temperature?

A polarized filter would be awsome. Hope you find a good source for one.

Expensive no question about it, but totally worth the cost over conventional gauges. I like the fact that I can get all important info in one unit that will fit inside a DIN sized unit and not look like gauges...helps keep the "low key" factor going. Count me in (maybe after X-Mas hehe).

We have the EGT probes ready to go. They are pretty much the highest end probe I have ever seen. The cableing will withstand up to 1500*F by itself....although, if the outside of your engine gets that hot you are in trouble. Basically though they are over engineered, but should last for a long time.

We are going to be offerring a package deal for everything. We have not tried the fuel pressure sensor yet, but I know it works on other vehicles with the unit. Keep an eye out for the package price.

Cool. Probably will be my first spring project of '07.

Have the fitment issues with the OEM pod been resolved?

Have the fitment issues with the OEM pod been resolved?

We believe so. Heck, we hope so as we just sent a bunch of $$ over to the UK to get some here.

when do you expect them to arrive?

Tony, could you get pic's of the red and green display on the site? :)

Where is the GB?

Where is the GB?

There isn't one.

There isn't one.
I won't argue the issue but you did state in this thread that you were going to have one.

I won't argue the issue but you did state in this thread that you were going to have one.

I can only assume you are referring to this post:
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showpost.php?p=14968818&postcount=174

2 people saying I'd be interested in a group buy does not make a group buy. We've always operated from a stance that there would need to be a minimum of 10 serious buyers needed.

Hey Tom....If I send you pictures of mine, will that make you get off the wallet? :) I'll try to give you a call tonight princess!

Count me in for a serious buyer!!!

Hey Tom....If I send you pictures of mine, will that make you get off the wallet? :) I'll try to give you a call tonight princess!
I already planned on buying one but a GB discount would be tha shizzle.

I will for SURE buy a red one for my 06 STI...

Could you guys actually post pic's of the different types of colors you offer, to know what they really look like? :)

Any updates?

no. :( I'm really getting concerned about this.

i wish those PSi3 guy's would hurry up and send the displays. I already have mine on order (paid). and I’m sure there are others on here that are looking forward to receive theirs as well. so come on guys....please ship these units already.....

Update?

I'm not sure if this thing is ever going to come out. I will probably try and buy it directly from Simon.

I'm not sure if this thing is ever going to come out.

That would be a shame, I'd drop my Autometer Nexus gauges in a heartbeat if the new units came out.

That would be a shame, I'd drop my Autometer Nexus gauges in a heartbeat if the new units came out.
Here's Simon's site:
http://www.psi3.co.uk/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=2

Here's Simon's site:
http://www.psi3.co.uk/index.php?act=viewCat&catId=2

To which he's going to tell you to go through us as we're the US distributor.

We have some of the new units in, but the piggyback circuit for the EGT did not have any leads. I'm assuming that folks would like for EGT to work so I have hired Unabomber to do the leads on the circuit. He should be getting those back to me soon.

We have hit a snafu - while the faceplate does fit better than the tester units we got there is still a small gap at the top and bottom.

Haha!!! I am touching all joor units! :lol:

I'm just messin' what ya guys. I will wait as long as it takes if you guys keep perfecting the unit! :)

Haha!!! I am touching all joor units! :lol:Looks like my old style "unspoiled" version just went up in value. :lol:

So what type of sensor has to be use with the unit?
And what about using it with a wide band 02?
Will you have a package price for Unit w/Oil Pressure, Boost, EGT ?

So what type of sensor has to be use with the unit?
And what about using it with a wide band 02?
Will you have a package price for Unit w/Oil Pressure, Boost, EGT ?

Boost is from the ECU, Oil pressure and temp use defi sensors, and EGT is a K-type probe (we have some nice heavy duty ones we haven't release yet here).

Hey....did you get your package yet so I can throw away the receipt?

Boost is from the ECU, Oil pressure and temp use defi sensors, and EGT is a K-type probe (we have some nice heavy duty ones we haven't release yet here).

can you still run a defi boost sensor like in the old units? Reading boost from the ECU is limited to the ECU's abilty to report over 18.3psi.

Hey....did you get your package yet so I can throw away the receipt?

Yep.5

can you still run a defi boost sensor like in the old units? Reading boost from the ECU is limited to the ECU's abilty to report over 18.3psi.
Wrong. Think absolute boost.

for those that have been waiting for the PSi3 Data Monitor, well...... TiC has them! i've had mine for about 1.5 months now and im extremly happy with it. basically all the data you want to see without the need to fill the car with gauges. its and awesome unit....... i did a semi review of it on iwsti and there is a link to it here on nasioc in the car part review section. took some pics but they are not so great since i took them with my camera phone. i will do a better job with the pics and the review later.........:banana: :disco: :banana:

for those that have been waiting for the PSi3 Data Monitor, well...... TiC has them! i've had mine for about 1.5 months now and im extremly happy with it. basically all the data you want to see without the need to fill the car with gauges. its and awesome unit....... i did a semi review of it on iwsti and there is a link to it here on nasioc in the car part review section. took some pics but they are not so great since i took them with my camera phone. i will do a better job with the pics and the review later.........:banana: :disco: :banana:

That is correct. We have had some for a little while, but we have been trying to work issues with PSI3. Honestly, we're mulling over the idea of dropping them. Not due to the product, we love it, but due to slowness, lack of support, and inablity to reach them via email or phone. I really hate to say that, but that's how it is.

That is correct. We have had some for a little while, but we have been trying to work issues with PSI3. Honestly, we're mulling over the idea of dropping them. Not due to the product, we love it, but due to slowness, lack of support, and inablity to reach them via email or phone. I really hate to say that, but that's how it is.

that seems to be what happened with the other vendors that had these units years ago--i love these units but the lack of support and quality attatchments seems to kill them everytime

their website doesn't even mention the product, and every link directly to the unit seems to be dead.

what's the deal?

their website doesn't even mention the product, and every link directly to the unit seems to be dead.

what's the deal?

Which they are you referring to? Us or Psi3?

If us there's a simple explanation - we did an emergency server move earlier this month, and in the interest of not screwing things up further for the holiday buying season we have not changed the DNS entry yet. Try this link to get to our general PSI3 area:
http://turninconcepts10.chainreactionweb.com/index.php?cPath=1_126_127

if you're talking about PSI3 you have to enter the full host www.psi3.co.uk. They do not have a dns alias entry for the www part.

edit: interesting. Tony just pointed out to me that if you follow that link for psi3 you get their hosting company. either they let their domain expire or they are gone. Tony is going to try and call them in the morning, and find out what's up.

are there any news about psi3 ?

Nope.

on your site i didnt see the pod version. i did see the din version on your site. so is this unit available or not?

is the "02+ Pod Mount Graphical Data Monitor - RED" available ?
if not in red maybe other colors ?

Nope.

interesting.

they seem to offer a nice product, which should have enough demand to keep them going...

so you are unable to get ahold of them?

interesting.

they seem to offer a nice product, which should have enough demand to keep them going...

so you are unable to get ahold of them?

No. We have a couple of green ones, and we will not be getting any more as we will be dropping them as a product we carry (unless they can convince us otherwise). We will support the unit as best we can, but for physical repairs or parts you will need to work directly with PSI3 in the UK.

do you sell your products to germany ?
the price for the units is 845 $ ?

are there other products that work with a 2007 sti and offer the same functions ?

the website is up again ..

No. We have a couple of green ones, and we will not be getting any more as we will be dropping them as a product we carry (unless they can convince us otherwise). We will support the unit as best we can, but for physical repairs or parts you will need to work directly with PSI3 in the UK.
Still have any green ones left? PM me a price shipped to 92078...and I want the Big Ron discount!

Big Ron discount FTW!!!

Guys, what ever happen to this....? :(

Guys, what ever happen to this....? :(

It died a horrible death. :( We weren't happy with a lot of things, and while we really really like the product we just couldn't make things happen fast enough for us to feel that it was something we could offer to our customers due to support issues.

That's too bad. I really would of loved to see this product come to market. Hopefully in the future someone else will fill the demand here.

Looks like I'll be keeping my old version 9

i really wanted a psi3. what else is there? i think hks camp is discontinued as well.

Still nothing?

Still nothing?
I think that this is a dead issue.

See post #241. This is a dead topic for us although I guess you could try getting one direct. We wish you the best of luck though...

:( Such a cool product.

I saw an email sent from PSI3 telling ECUTEK customers that they were selling the same unit direct now. TIC care to share why you decided not to carry the product? Just bad communication or was there something more with the product itself?

I saw an email sent from PSI3 telling ECUTEK customers that they were selling the same unit direct now. TIC care to share why you decided not to carry the product? Just bad communication or was there something more with the product itself?

let this one die man--if you reread the thread you will find the answer to your question

you could always buy direct from the uk company--it was just that tic was looking to resolve some issues so that they could provide a quality tic product and the host company was dragging their feet and being uncooperative

the unit itself is great--i have had 2 of them and loved them--they are a great unit that reads off the the stock ecu but i have to say that actual guages are more acurate especially if you have a flashed ecu unless you have a ecutek and get the specific psi3 unit for it