Sorry, didn't have a means to PM you :(. I'm considering the Prodrive PFF7's, but they're 8" wide, and +51, so I want 8mm spacers to bring them down to where the Emotions are to fill up the wheel-well a bit more, where should I buy them?

8mm spacers :huh:

Honestly, is 8mm that big? I hear peeps talk about 1" spacers all the time!

1" Spacers :huh: :huh:

h&r makes subaru specific spacers but i think they only come in 5mm, 15mm, and 25mm.

.....the idea of using spacers for this purpose appalls me :rolleyes:

.....the idea of using spacers for this purpose appalls me :rolleyes:

I know, I know, I don't usually do stuff this stupid (nearly, but not as bad usually), but I like the PFF7's and they just don't fill the wheel-well enough for me.

Now if they were made in 18X8.5 +48...

h&r makes subaru specific spacers but i think they only come in 5mm, 15mm, and 25mm.

Link? I found some, but they're for 5X100, not 5X114.3...

what about gc-07c in +44?

Link? I found some, but they're for 5X100, not 5X114.3...

oh yeah, sorry.

I know, I know, I don't usually do stuff this stupid (nearly, but not as bad usually), but I like the PFF7's and they just don't fill the wheel-well enough for me.

Now if they were made in 18X8.5 +48...
You like these wheels enough to do something possibly damaging to your car?

oooook

You like these wheels enough to do something possibly damaging to your car?

oooook

Honestly, how will I damage my car with a 5-8mm hub-centric wheel spacer?

The hub-centric spacer is still sandwiched between your rim and the wheel hub. The wheel itself is actually exerting forces on the wheel studs in an improper way because the rim is not flushed completely against the wheel hub.

Some guy in iwsti.com was running hubcentric wheel spacers to fit his Mille Miglia winter rims, he ended up breaking all 5 wheel studs on the passenger front wheel. You can do a search over there if you want to, with pics and everything.

Get a wheel with the proper offset, especially if you're going to do spirited driving. Wheel spacers are for bling, not performance.

what about gc-07c in +44?

Don't really like the style, they look a little too flat, besides, they're 7.5" wide. I love the GC010E's...

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/Wheelgc101silver2.jpg

But at $635 a wheel they're way outta' my budget.

The hub-centric spacer is still sandwiched between your rim and the wheel hub. The wheel itself is actually exerting forces on the wheel studs in an improper way because the rim is not flushed completely against the wheel hub.

Some guy in iwsti.com was running hubcentric wheel spacers to fit his Mille Miglia winter rims, he ended up breaking all 5 wheel studs on the passenger front wheel. You can do a search over there if you want to, with pics and everything.

Now that I didn't know, off to do a search...

Here, I found it for you
http://www.iwsti.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28875

Post #140 in that thread has the clues, he was using a 1/4" spacer...

Thanks, I'll read-up on it, lot of info in this thread as well...

Linky (http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=885825&page=1&pp=25)

The hub-centric spacer is still sandwiched between your rim and the wheel hub. The wheel itself is actually exerting forces on the wheel studs in an improper way because the rim is not flushed completely against the wheel hub.

Some guy in iwsti.com was running hubcentric wheel spacers to fit his Mille Miglia winter rims, he ended up breaking all 5 wheel studs on the passenger front wheel. You can do a search over there if you want to, with pics and everything.

Get a wheel with the proper offset, especially if you're going to do spirited driving. Wheel spacers are for bling, not performance.
Despite being a well-known Homosexual, Rev is right :p

you won't put Rotas on your car because they are "unsafe" yet you would want to do something this stupid? :lol: you amaze me, really :lol:

you won't put Rotas on your car because they are "unsafe" yet you would want to do something this stupid? :lol: you amaze me, really :lol:
Oh snap, good point! :lol:

you won't put Rotas on your car because they are "unsafe" yet you would want to do something this stupid? :lol: you amaze me, really :lol:

Dude, please, all spacers for all cars aren't bad! I just didn't realize they were bad for Subies... If my research shows that it'll definitely be a bad thing I certainly won't do it, but right now I don't know enough about it.

And don't get me started on Rota's.

Looks like it was a hubcentric ring, not a spacer...

"Looking at your pictures again, that really doesn't look like a spacer, otherwise it would have been obvious from the get go. It is a centering ring that is appears to be stuck on there. Now that would really screw things up."

"My current winter rim (now installed) is Mille Migilia HT3, which requires a hubcentric ring to fit snugly on the STi's hub. Because of my horrendous blunder which started this thread, my rings were slightly mis-shapen. I had to resphape the outer circumference of two rings slightly to fit back inside the MM HT3 rim. Being anal retentive (better late than never), I placed the rims with reshaped rings at the rear of the car."

More info...

The point of "hub-centric" is that the wheel is *supported* by the hub, and the bolts theoretically act only in tension. A lug-centric connection places the vertical load on the studs.

The purpose of a centering ring is to make up the difference in bore between the wheel and the hub, so that the hub-centric relationship is preserved.

So, with a hub-centric ring + spacer I should be fine, right?

Despite being a well-known Homosexual, Rev is right :p

I ****ing hate you :furious: :lol: :cool:

I ****ing hate you :furious: :lol: :cool:

Why, are you really a homosexual? And if so, do you have issues with that?

:lol:

Don't really like the style, they look a little too flat, besides, they're 7.5" wide. I love the GC010E's...

http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/images/Wheelgc101silver2.jpg

But at $635 a wheel they're way outta' my budget.

although the spokes are flatter, i suggested the gc-07c because the pff7s were designed after them.

where did you get the 7.5" width? i was talking about your requested 18x8.5" sizing in a +44 offset which will give you the look you're trying to achieve

http://www.prodrive-japan.com/products/gc_07c/size.html

if not and you decide to go with a 5mm+ spacer, you need to find one that is hubcentric. a hubcentric ring on just the wheel will be pretty much useless because of the spacer. take off a wheel, and see how the hubcentric support works. with a 8mm spacer you'll need to get extended lugs anyway...you want at least 10mm of lug thread engagement.

Cool, thanks for the info. There is a Guru of sorts on IWSTi that I'm talking with as well, I'll see what he has to say before I make any final decision.

not a big fan of spacer use but, if done correctly it's safe and effective but, I can't see where slightly more than 1/4" would make a huge visual difference ....

Thanks for your input Luke, and everyone else here that contributed to my knowledge about spacers. I've contacted a Guru about the matter, and it seems like it can be done, but it's not worth the hassle/possible problems [to me].

Spacers = no go.

I'm glad you came to your senses. I was worried for a minute there. :D