View Full Version : Sub install finished w/pics
affinity1 05-01-2006, 06:53 PM I decided to let Tweeter install my components and two amps and i must say they did a wonderful and very clean job. The sub amp is mounted on top of the subs. The amp for the components is mounted on the back of the sub box. The Polk db6500 speakers sound so good. I wanted my car to sound like the inside of a club and now it does. :disco: And now for the pics.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/affinity1/subaru/sub4.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/affinity1/subaru/sub2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/affinity1/subaru/sub1.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/affinity1/subaru/sub3.jpg
what u guys think?
avsmusic1 05-01-2006, 07:34 PM im lovin the old school rockford subs!
what amp are u using with them?
affinity1 05-01-2006, 08:00 PM The subs are 12" HE2's that i had in my grand prix. A Power Acoustik 1200 watt 2 ch Sterling Series powers the subs. The db6500's are powered by a 300 watt 2 ch Aura RPM2 amp.
i love how i can turn the volume up really loud and it still sounds clear! so much better than stock
and there's still room in the trunk for a box of tissues!
:-)
just funning you. looks clean, glad it came out how you wanted it.
enjoy!
thedaddyb 05-02-2006, 06:17 PM hmm . . . they did the complete install?
1. the power wire isn't loomed, and is just hanging there. not zip tied so the fuse holder doesn't rattle around.
2. mounting to the box is usually not the greatest idea, but in your case might have to be done because of the size of the amps, they could have always put a board up behind the back seats to support the amps.
when an amp is mounted to the box and the box shifts it can pull loose wires, and it also makes it easy for would be theives to grab the whole setup and go.
3. are they using the amps to hold together to two boxes? or was any bracing involved? the pressure from the boxes trying to move around could eventually cause damage to the amps.
not any huge issues, but if I was paying what tweeter charges for installs, I would expect some of this stuff to be repaired. those are their own standards on installs, not just mine.
couchflambeau 05-02-2006, 06:21 PM ^^^^ valid points
vroomtiss 05-02-2006, 08:15 PM 3 years of car audio install experience.. says "thedaddyb" is on point. no offence. but that looks like a garage job to me. glad to hear that it sounds nice. but it does look like alot of corners were cut.
vipernj 05-02-2006, 08:45 PM That came from a shop??!! Power wire is loomed and tied down, Amp is on the sub box and really shouldnt be. They should have made a board and put it on the backseat. And the subs look uneven next to each other. The only thing that IS good is that they used the proper connectors from the wire to the amp. They didnt just shove the wires in
vroomtiss 05-02-2006, 09:05 PM +1 for connectors. i wouldnt have it any other way for myself.
vroomtiss 05-02-2006, 09:06 PM affinity1, by the way, which Tweeter did you go to? (i used to live in chicago and i am curious as to who would do this)
affinity1 05-02-2006, 11:54 PM they put one of those metal brace things on the box then the amp on top. i know soetimes the amp circuitry can get messed up from the bass when mounted on the box but Kyle at the Fox Valley Tweeter said it would be best.
i basically just handed him all the equipment needed and he did the labor. i didnt include wire loom because i didnt think it was needed. I think he did a great job running the wires through that little hole in the first pic. (i would have never thought to do that). I have a fused 4 ga to 4ga dist block mountd on the back of the box and also my other amp for my components mounted on the back of the box. He did ask if i wanted a 1/2" thick piece of wood to cover the floor and mount the amps to that but i told him i would need to access the spare tire and wanted Some trunk space. I told him i would see how much the boxes slid around then get some heavy duty velcro action going on.
FNR32 05-03-2006, 12:06 AM Very clean install
Mystic 05-03-2006, 02:01 AM they put one of those metal brace things on the box then the amp on top. i know soetimes the amp circuitry can get messed up from the bass when mounted on the box but Kyle at the Fox Valley Tweeter said it would be best.
i basically just handed him all the equipment needed and he did the labor. i didnt include wire loom because i didnt think it was needed. I think he did a great job running the wires through that little hole in the first pic. (i would have never thought to do that). I have a fused 4 ga to 4ga dist block mountd on the back of the box and also my other amp for my components mounted on the back of the box. He did ask if i wanted a 1/2" thick piece of wood to cover the floor and mount the amps to that but i told him i would need to access the spare tire and wanted Some trunk space. I told him i would see how much the boxes slid around then get some heavy duty velcro action going on.
did i understand this right ....he ran the wires through the hole in the fender ? i cant see that great in the pic but what hole are you talking about ? also just curiuos but what did you pay for that install?
badahab 05-03-2006, 02:11 AM I like running the power wire through the quarter panal. I did it in my se-r and it really turned out well. It can be a little more of a pain in the ass in some cars but I think its worth it. It keeps it away from all moving parts, unless your wheel pushes through your wheel well but then you have much more serious problems. The hard part is getting into the car throuh a really tight bushing... at least really tight in the se-r. I think it just looks nicer too.
affinity1 05-03-2006, 02:13 AM yeah he ran the wire through the fender somewhere.
it was a whopping ~$250 and took him about 4 hours
badahab 05-03-2006, 02:24 AM US dollars? The stereo shop was right next to the Air Force recruiter... I knew I walked in the wrong one!
littlewhitewagon 05-03-2006, 02:41 AM Sorry, after about 10 years in the industry...looks like a novice installer or one without creativity installed the system. Is that two single boxes held together by the amp? The cables in the engine bay should be tied down (moving parts) and protected (vibration and movement). Do the screws for the sub amp penetrate the sub enclosure?
Krmnnghia01 05-03-2006, 06:57 AM What is your address because I would liek to steal your ****! Not really but if a thief gets into your trunk it is payday for them. I made that mistake once and never again will it happen to me. Had 2 12's and 2 amps stolen. It happened so quickly because all they did was clip 20 wires and off they went. Now all my installs have false floors with all amps bolted from underneath. Sub box "L" bracketed with bolts as well. If they are gonna get my stuff they better work hard for it ;).
Now besides that the install doesn't look to bad. I bet it sounds great.
vroomtiss 05-03-2006, 11:37 AM no offence but circuit city or best buy could have done a similar or better of a job for about half as much.
ImprezaRSfan! 05-03-2006, 11:49 AM http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/affinity1/subaru/sub2.jpg
whoa did they cut through the box to run the wires? if they did then damn, that sub must sound like poop when it hits, all the air leaking out. Or does it just look like that?
vroomtiss 05-03-2006, 12:15 PM no thats not through the box. the hole that you see is on the back of the seat.
FNR32 05-03-2006, 12:23 PM Upon second review after much needed rest. I really think you should go back to tweeters and get your cash back. Or have them correct what they half assed. I dont know how i missed that. I guess i was just looking quickly last night. Maybe if someone was giving you a free install then i would expect something like that, but not for the amount of money that you paid
vroomtiss 05-03-2006, 12:27 PM next time i come home to visit. ill fix that **** for you.
Mystic 05-03-2006, 12:58 PM yeah he ran the wire through the fender somewhere.
it was a whopping ~$250 and took him about 4 hours
just whoa .... tweeter running power wire through the fender i been in the biz for 8 years and that is NOT the way to run power wire ...if the installer had half a brain he would have looked under dash and saw the grommet that hits in the face and run the power wire through there a nice safe place instead of through the fender ....but its your car
couchflambeau 05-03-2006, 01:24 PM affinity....
These guys are not flaming the install..... I spent 4-5 years in the install trenches and I see a lot of issues that I would find unacceptable, most of which have already been discussed. Why would you even stitch two boxes together like that vs. either a single prefab box for two drivers, or better yet, get a custom? Even if there were no grommet in the firewall (which was mentioned, the one on the driver's side is big enough for Hellen Keller to find) you drill your own, grommet it and silicone it. Thru the fender? Even your average BBy installer knows better than that. The dangling fuse...... wrong.
It's not a hack job, but for $250 I'd expect better......
affinity1 05-03-2006, 03:04 PM There Are No Holes Cut In The Box. The Wires Are Lead Underneath The Backseat And Alongside The Floor Panel And I Guess Through The Firewall And Somewhere Through The Fender. Ill Get More Pics Of The Wiring Behind The Box Tonite
ALSO, I HAVE TWO BOXES BECAUSE I USED THEM IN MY GRAND PRIX. I WASNT ABOUT TO BUY A NEW BOX WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING WRONG WITH MY CURRENT BOXES
EDIT:caps was on
vroomtiss 05-03-2006, 03:51 PM im not hating. i just think you should demand some money back.
4EVO2NV 05-03-2006, 04:07 PM U G L Y you aint got no alibi, its UGLY!
Krmnnghia01 05-03-2006, 04:25 PM U G L Y you aint got no alibi, its UGLY!
:lol:
affinity1 05-03-2006, 06:53 PM :furious:
....... :banana:
blkwrx02 05-04-2006, 05:09 PM I can understand wanting to use your old stuff so I won't say anything about the truck. It looks like the guy did a decent job with what you gave him.
However, for $250 they should loom or at a minimum wrap the wires in the engine bay, run them through the firewall, and mount the fuse holder. Oh, and bolt down the boxes (unless you had told them not to for some reason).
4EVO2NV 05-04-2006, 06:58 PM For 250 they should made a flush mounted setup on the back of the seat area. For what they did, you shouldn't of paid more than 150. and that includes all wiring and high end rca's.
mikeyg 05-04-2006, 07:54 PM Seeing a fuseholder like that makes me a little sick feeling. I would go back and have the fuse secured properly. A simple piece of wood designed to fasten to the battery tie down bolt makes for a nice location. Main power has a straight shot to the firewall, cut a nice tight slit ( not poon intended there dirtbags) in the grommet and seal with silicone adhesive or caulk. It's not a hack job but some of it is rigged.
REVNU 05-04-2006, 08:09 PM U G L Y you aint got no alibi, its UGLY!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
That was from Wildcats! :lol: :banana:
I would try getting some money back on the install. I would have charged you a hundred bux for that. It's not that it's a bad install, it's just not a $250 install.
~REVNU
clbd39 05-04-2006, 08:36 PM i personally think he shoulda just gone with fiberglassing :) with a flush mount
250 would pay for your supplies and even PAY someone to professionally paint it :P or 40 bucks for a DIY painting ;)
affinity1 05-04-2006, 08:46 PM Tweeter is not a cheap place for install labor especially when i didnt buy anything from them! i just heard bad stories from people going to best buy or circuit city to get their install done. i just wanted my stuff installed properly with no damage to my car. The installer never suggested a piece of wood to mount the amps to on the backseat and i didnt think of doing that either so he didnt do it. Im sure if i wanted him to do that it would have been another 50 some dollars. As far as drilling into the sub box, i asked if that would be ok and he said "it will be fine, i do it all the time" so i told him go ahead.
I will agree that the subs arent lined up. Not sure why the f*ck he wouldnt line them up. Im not gonna go back and make him drill ANOTHER hole into the box and leave one empty. i dont really care about the alignment much unless it would affect the sound enough for me to care. My setup isnt for show. i just wanted something fairly clean and quick. i installed the same subs myself in my grand prix a couple years ago and it took me and some friends way too long with lots of small ass little problems and i wasnt about to go through that again.
The subs are starting to slide around like crazy though. i didnt want him drilling into the floor because i may need to get to my spare one day. i know i could unscrew whatever was bolted in then access the spare but whatever! I dont want that!
I told him i would see how much it would slide around then get some velcro.
That being said.....does anyone know where i can get some heavy duty velcro to keep the trunk carpet from sliding around and taking the subs with it???? :alien:
REVNU 05-04-2006, 08:56 PM Try Home Depot, ACE, etc for some heavy duty velcro.
~REVNU
clbd39 05-04-2006, 09:20 PM Well holes aren't always bad in a box you can always silicone them but then there are TINY gaps still but the gist is gone, but i always get my velcro from a fabric store they have rolls of it in like 4 ft or 10 ft, the lil old ladies are nice to talk to also especially when you start telling them what you're using it for and you see them getting lost, lol, the set up isn't bad, i don't think anyone is telling you that, i think they're just suggesting what would be better lol, in this case it's too late
but before i make a major purchase or install i always get an opinion on here ;)
velcro is great but sometimes your carpet will slide too lol, so more velcro ;)
Mystic 05-04-2006, 11:27 PM just a suggestion , go to tweeter and ask the guy for a backstrap , bend it to the box with one screw and screw into beam that runs across the top of the back seat ... that will stop from moving velcro wont do it .
affinity1 05-04-2006, 11:43 PM just a suggestion , go to tweeter and ask the guy for a backstrap , bend it to the box with one screw and screw into beam that runs across the top of the back seat ... that will stop from moving velcro wont do it .
dooley noted
clbd39 05-05-2006, 11:04 AM /\ /\ /\ I have done that as well and it works pretty well
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