When I say crappy engines and drivetrain i mean you are not likely to get it over 100,000. I have a 2001 F150 with 40,000 and the transmission is already acting up. Sure they are good and powerful when they are new, but when they get a few miles on them they become junk. And as far as torque my WRX puts out more torque than my V8 F150, my old V8 Expedition, and my friends 60's mustang with a 350 in it or is it 351 for fords? Whichever my WRX is still better.