I have an air temp probe about 7 inches in front of the nozzel. on the dyno (car is plenty hot) when we began tuning with the smc 50/50 we would watch the temp go down, alot. Thats with the 50/50 very very warm. Now that the em is fine (thanks to utec, maxed out streeTuner/maf at 15psi/368whp) and I will be trying the ice cube thingy soon as our trany issue get figured out( next weekend !). Ill post various temp/results if anyone is interested.