when I bought it. Brand new from the looks of them. Now, two years and 30,000 miles later I am still running them. I live in Wisconsin. Snow is a given. They are VERY good dry road tires. Plenty of grip and quiet. Wet roads? I've driven the freeways at 60 mph and the only problem I had was losing speed due to the fact I was literally plowing my way through 8 inches of water. I've never had them Hydroplane on me, ever. Snow? They were better last year, and 15,000 miles ago, but I drive through 12-18 inches of unplowed snow without a worry. There have been times it's only been me and the snow plows out. I've driven off road for firewood through 6-24 inches of snow. There were a few times I had to back up and hit the drift again, but I NEVER got stuck. Last winter I had to push my wife's Sable out of a 36 inch deep drift. I felt the LSD kick in a couple of times, but no problem. Considering the cost of the tires I can't complain at all.