+1 for Paul@Primitive. I spent a while emailing him and speaking on the phone with him. He is a great guy! We settled on the 1/8" no hole/stinger tail'd front plate, and the 1/8" uparmored mini rear. Damn thing is 1/4" thick!!!!! I was really happy with his CS, and the shipping time was crazy fast. I plan on ordering more from him. I will get some pics and post them up when the car goes up in the air for more parts this weekend.