Didn't realize expressing an opinion was a "DIS" on the group, Jammer. I think Subzero and the other groups are great. That is why I am a member. It is where I choose to compete and support the sport with my dollars. I'm there no matter the rules. It is where the best racers come to compete. I agree with LiLpNoY, it would be hard to regulate. I suppose informing people that there is more than a single way of doing things is a no no.