View Single Post
Old 07-27-2012, 03:58 PM   #342
cueball89
Scooby Specialist
Member Sales Rating: (11)
 
Member#: 90513
Join Date: Jul 2005
Chapter/Region: Tri-State
Location: NY
Vehicle:
2003 wrx wagon
black

Have a Nice Day?

My recent exchange with Clark.

Long story short my stock injectors were too small, I had ID1000's and told Clark twice I was putting on 1000'cc injectors before I sent him a payment. I installed the larger injectors and sent him a payment. He then tells me they wont work. At this point I'm really confused. I ask for a refund as I've found somewhere else to get a break in tune. He refuses to refund me when no map has been exchanged and one hasn't been made to my knowledge. I tell him I've opened a dispute and he says he will email me a 1000cc injector map that I ordered which he already stated wont work.

I asked him why in our email exchanges why he didn't tell me the 1000's wouldn't work, I got no response. I told him twice what I was putting on and only after payment he told me they wouldn't work, I feel like I got robbed.




Quote:

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: hybrid base map / break in
From: cueball89
Date: Thu, July 26, 2012 6:37 am
To: "Clark
Hi Clark,

I am in need of a map for my hybrid that I just put together. The car is a 2003 wrx 5 speed. I have an access port v2. I need a map so that I can drive the car around safely until it's broken in. I was thinking something along the lines of waste gate pressure only?

I have kept the intake and fuel system stock for ease of e-tuning. The car also has a new maf sensor and front O2 sensor.

mod list
sti shortblock
asf chamber matched 2 liter heads with valve job, pocket port and sti cams.
grimmspeed 3 port boost controller
grimmspeed aos
grimmspeed up pipe
td04 turbo
catless tbe
perrin turbo inlet
cobb ap2

thanks
Mike

From: clark
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 1:09 PM
To: cueball89
Subject: RE: hybrid base map / break in

-------------------------------------------------------
Its not possible without larger injectors. The stock ones wont work with the 2.5. Sorry, There is just not enough fuel.

C
Clark Turner Tuning
480-695-2898
TXT message for faster response
www.ClarkTurnertuning.com

----- Reply message -----
From: cueball89
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 11:30 am
Subject: hybrid base map / break in
To: "clark

Hi Clark,
I can't run waste gate pressure with the 2.5 on the tiny stock td04-13t turbo? I dont plan on going over 4000rpm or 50% for 1000miles for break in. I've got a walbro 255 and 1000 cc ID injectors, I was waiting to put those on when I upgraded my turbo and got a pro tune. I can put them on if need be.

thanks
Mike

From: clark
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 2:36 PM
To: cueball89
Subject: Re: hybrid base map / break in


The stock injectors are to small man.

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: RE: hybrid base map / break in
From: cueball89
Date: Thu, July 26, 2012 1:55 pm
To: "clark

Hi Clark,

Just installed the walbro, will install the ID 1000'cc injectors this evening. Where should I send money to and how much?

thanks
Mike

From: clark
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 5:02 PM
To: cueball89
Subject: RE: hybrid base map / break in


You can purchase the custom map on my website.

C


Clark Turner Tuning
480-695-2898
TXT message for faster response
www.ClarkTurnertuning.com

----- Reply message -----
From: "Michael Young" <myoung04@syr.edu>
Date: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 6:42 pm
Subject: hybrid base map / break in
To: "clark@clarkturnertuning.com" <clark@clarkturnertuning.com>

Clark,
Cool, ordered.

thanks
Mike


From: clark
To:cueball89

Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:42 PM
I dint see how 1000 s will work with a tdo4 man.

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!



-----Original Message-----
From: clark
To: cueball89
Sent: Thu, Jul 26, 2012 9:07 pm
Subject: RE: Notification of payment received


How do you propose we get 1000cc injectors to work on a 220whp setup? confused!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Are you looking for an E85 map? The list says 93. The 1000s are not going to work for that low hp setup man. That is why they make different sized injectors. Otherwise, They would just make 2000s.

For this setup, you need some STI 565s and even then, They would be overkill.

C
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Clark,

The plan is put on a larger turbo something 20g sized after the car is broken in. I read on the forums that the 1000 cc injectors scaled somewhat smaller, in the 900 something ish range. Also thought I read that people were getting 1000'cc injectors to idle on pump gas. I was thinking that I'd be up in the higher percentages of Injector duty cycles with the ID 725 injectors? I'm trying to get my hybrid broken in, just installed it. You said the factory injectors were too small for a break in tune with waste gate pressure.

What injectors do you suggest I run, I'll order them.

Sorry for the improper research and product choice,
Mike
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hi Clark,

I found someone who will give me a break in tune on the stock injectors. I'd appreciate it if you refunded me my payment.

thanks
Mike
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There is no refund and its not possible to run the stock 420s man. The 2.5 needs more fuel.

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!

-----Original Message-----
From: clark <clark@clarkturnertuning.com>
To: Michael Young <mudzilla89@netscape.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 9:34 am
Subject: Re: Notification of payment received

Let me know whay u want to do man.

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: Notification of payment received
From: Michael Young <mudzilla89@netscape.net>
Date: Fri, July 27, 2012 7:53 am
To: clark@clarkturnertuning.com

I'm getting a base map from else where. Please refund me my payment. I'm sorry we couldn't do business.
Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: clark <clark@clarkturnertuning.com>
To: Michael Young <mudzilla89@netscape.net>
Sent: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 11:09 am
Subject: RE: Notification of payment received

There are no refunds mike. So decide what map you want from me and I will send it man. Otherwise, By this afternoon, i will send the map for the 1000s which is the last map you ordered. Or I can hold the credit as long as you keep the paypal reciept and emails

C
Clark Turner Tuning
480-695-2898
TXT message for faster response
www.ClarkTurnertuning.com

----- Reply message -----
From: "Michael Young" <mudzilla89@netscape.net>
Date: Fri, Jul 27, 2012 11:10 am
Subject: Notification of payment received
To: <clark@clarkturnertuning.com>

Clark,

I emailed you twice saying I was putting on 1000'cc injectors and you never said anything about it. Only after I had sent money you told me the 1000'cc wouldn't work. If you just told me then that the injectors wouldn't work before I sent you payment, that would have been fine. The exchange of emails is below. I don't want the map and I don't want a credit. I dont understand why you can't refund me my payment. I imagine you looked at the order I placed on your site and saw the injector conflict and it went no further than that. If there is something I'm missing please let me know. I've opened a dispute with my credit card company. I'm sorry.

Mike

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok. I will respond to the dispute. Its not my fault u have 420cc injectors. They wont support the 2.5 and u will probably damage the motor. I will send the last file u orderes for the 1000s.

Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
* Registered users of the site do not see these ads.
cueball89 is offline   Reply With Quote