Originally Posted by skywaffles
Hybrid CVTs are a completely different beast. They're not typically set up in the same way as a IC engine's CVT.
Ford ditched their CVTs due to durability problems. Audi ditched their CVTs due to durability problems. MINI ditched their CVTs due to durability problems. Nissan (the biggest supporter of the tech) extended the warranties (10 year 120k) of eight models over a span of seven years due to a huge number of failures.
Honda going CVT isn't a surprise because they've never managed to make an automatic worth a damn.
Nobody makes transmissions as horrible as the 4EAT anymore. If you're comparing a NEW Impreza with other NEW cars, you'd be comparing the CVT to modern automatics (like Hyundai's 6AT or Ford's PS).
You almost had me, until you mentioned the Hyundai 6AT which is downright dreadful from behind the wheel.
Also Ford's PowerShift is terrible when it can "learn" its way into hard shifts and bucking behavior. Then you need to go to the Ford dealership, get it reset, cross your fingers, and drive away hoping it won't screw up again. Then 5000 miles later you are back at the dealer getting another reset because it's acting like trash again. One of my friends has a new EcoBoost F150 and he is on his third transmission and 5th or 6th reset right now. The dealer is at the point where they have nothing to say except "You are driving it wrong" and they won't work on the truck. The truck is parked while the lawyers work it out.