Originally Posted by chanomatik
Still not paying attention. 2012+ Impreza:
It is lighter.
Also, yes, the FR-S/GT-86/BRZ are considered light. For their size and tech and price, they're light. I refuse to pay the price of the Lotus and I do not like the looks of the Miata. I'm definitely not alone on this, which is why people are enjoying these cars. If they were considered heavy things would be different. You can't compare them to your wagon or any other old Subaru. New Subaru vehicles come with an airbag for the passenger's knees.... KNEES, Caleb! There's so much extra bracing and safety added to these vehicles that, yes, 2700lbs is considered light by today's standards.
Also, the current WRX/STI are considered light for having AWD, turbocharging and four doors. Go do some comparisons against the competition, not the cars of yesteryear. You'll see what I'm talking about.
I don't know if people ever complained about the Forester's weight, but I wouldn't doubt they made it lighter since it's based on the current Impreza and aiming to have better MPG. Same with next WRX/STI. People want more performance, but better MPG. They WILL be lighter. Will they be as light as a 90's Legacy wagon? Most likely not anymore, but that's not a fair comparison.
Trust me. I'm with you on making these vehicles significantly lighter, but they're also making them more powerful to help offset the weight increase.
Lol you arent paying attention I just told you the curb weight of 2012. Sorry if i didnt say 3,378lbs. Also the reason they are heavy isn't because of extra bracing or air bags its because they are twice the size. As I said I'm fine with having a WRX like it is but they need to step it up with the STi. The WRX has the same 1/4 mile as the STi. That's sad. There is no substitute for weight. Yeah it might keep it the same in a straight but in a turn it will show. Oh and the STi still has the same 305hp it started with.
Not gonna argue. Everyone can have their own opinion I'm just saying mine.