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Old 11-16-2012, 12:16 AM   #245
stevehnm
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Originally Posted by flyboy1100 View Post
I am not confused, none of those cars achieve their epa mileage in independent testing. I don't think you even posted the right epa numbers because I'm pretty sure w/o looking that the Mazda 3 is rated at 40mpg highway.


So I am confused on the point you are trying to make because:

1. Car does get epa at 60-65mph
2. Epa testing is not realistic, especially when they don't account for wind/hills and use a social blend of fuel consumers cannot buy
3. All of the independent testing by CR does almost every vehicle does not achieve epa estimates.
4. Subaru didn't game at the numbers, especially when other manufacturers are in the same boat with estimates vs real world.
5. Estimates are never guarantees, you fall w/in the expected range you were told to expect. I bet if you brought your car to where they do the testing you would get closer to the big bold numbers.
First, the Mazda 3 numbers depend on the engine. Apparently the latest test on the Mazda was not with the "SkyActiv" system but I went with the last test, as I said.

1. Car gets EPA mileage at *under* 60 mph under real driving conditions. That is a dangerous speed to be driving on a highway full of 75 mph traffic.

2. I agree EPA testing is not realistic, however, many brands can in fact achieve their highway EPA test results at 70 to 75 mph - it's just that the Impreza is nowhere close.

3. False

4. Misleading, as other manufacturers exceed EPA estimates when tested *independently* by Consumer Reports. It would take a severe stroke of genius and dishonesty to achieve the EPA results accurately considering the real life mpg figures (again, with the cvt which you don't have so you have no business in this discussion anyway).

5. Over 2 standard deviations below the distribution of the competition, as chosen by you, is much more meaningful in terms of reality than your dogma.

Give it up. You look more and more ridiculous every day. Just admit you were wrong. It's not that big a deal. Everybody is wrong sometimes.
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