well a lot more ppl reading and then retyping what they see in a slightly different fashion tends to make that happen. plus many new ppl asking general questions which mostly apply to a ej20 engine and not specifically to ej207. this tread has pretty much lost most of its informative matter and turned into a dialy question/answer discussion. no one is going to read almost 200 pages to figure out what they want. they just ask now and say" well just read the whole thread but still dont knwo what to pick" etc etc. when i first read it there was like 75 pages which only took a few class periods sitting on my lap top in history class. now its too hard to weed through it all. sub threads need to be added to the top of the thread asap including a ej207 newbie question thread so it keeps the bs stuff out.