This is a great thread, glad I came across it. Based on what you guys are saying, I find that invoice for a 2013 premium hatchback should be around $26,666, at least thats what Edmunds states. Is that the rough price I should aim for, and does it include the $750 destination fee? Basically, living in Portland, whats the total price I am looking at? Thank you, I appreciate it, this is rather helpful.