Originally Posted by Celery GT-5
I wasn't saying it was a better idea to mod an still because they have mostly the same issues I meant both wrxs and stis.
I don't see how this is trolling. I basically said it sucks that our engines can't handle more power which turned into a whole pedantic exchange about HP vs torque when I was just trying to make a general statement. Then you got all defensive about your engine and xluben's tampon fell out. I just made a harmless comment.
When did I get defensive about my engine? I just pointed out that only 2 on your list have a proven track record of holding above the percentage horsepower/torque gain. The rest have a proven track record of not holding that. Are there examples that did hold up over time? Of course. Hell...my motor held up for over 22k miles at 392whp/387 ft lbs. Does that mean that is the norm? Not at all.
The rest of the motors on your "golden list" are in the same boat, and I have PERSONAL experience with them in that respect. Hell...even the VR38DETT motor shows major issues when pushed to that level of percentage increase and that is not even considering the clutch basket. The issue here is that you spout of things that you "read or saw on the internet" which are not true in real life. I have friends that are deeply ingrained in the Honda life that have built multiple Honda's that are complete fanboys...and they wouldn't agree with what you are saying.
Stick to what you have hands on experience with...not what you see in YouTube videos.