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Old 01-11-2013, 06:17 PM   #36
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2005 Legacy GT


Originally Posted by gpshumway View Post
Memo to Honda: Quit with the AWD stupidity, it's totally unnecessary in a mid-engine sports car, I don't care what Audi says. Build a mid engine S2000. Take the K20Z3+ 6sp from the 8th gen Civic Si, add direct injection and a good header (like the F20) and you'll have a 250hp, 8,000 RPM engine with a slick shifting transmission. Put it amid ships in a two seater weighing <2,700 lb and you'll have a real winner. A simple, light, direct sports car. The car will share drivetrain with the Civic Si, and should be easy to build in the same plant. Sell it for ~$27-30k, a modest premium over the Si. Trying to beat Porsche at their own game is folly, you don't have the brand.
Originally Posted by DeeezNuuuts83 View Post
In 2000, Toyota (re-)released the MR-2 Spyder with an unentertaining 140 hp engine for just under $24,000, which today is more like $32,000, adjusting for inflation. And remember that they had prior experience with the mid-engine layout with the previous two generations of MR2s. So for Honda to come up with their first mass-produced mid-engined car for this kind of compact application (as the NSX was categorized more as a supercar and also cost multiples more) but give it a higher caliber variant of the K20 and sell for under $30k will definitely not happen.
Mid-engine "budget" car is not new for Honda:
Meet the Honda Beat:

Shared some components with this car(not much, but some):

Had a curb weight of around 1700lbs and people were swapping B16s into them. Never sold in USA but IIRC some people in Canada got a hold of them and a couple were brought down here too(from CAN).
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