First of all you guys misunderstood my entire post. And thanks for being jackasses nobody is being sppon fed I dont even know how that supposed apply here. All I was looking for is suggestions and experience of certain types of hangars that work. Seeing how this is supposed friendly forum, im not gettin that at all. Im trying to avoid torching my exhaust to bend it enough to get cleatance. Though im a subie newbie im not a newbie to cars ive been a factory bmw tech for years. So if anybody has any polite suggestions other than kartboys hangars that work and prevent sway frpm exhaust I will kindly take those suggestions thank you.