Originally Posted by HipToBeSquare
When Paceman gets 250hp+, which isn't that high a bar for a 2.0T anymore...
Every MINI has a 1.6T, though.. despite every new model being heavier than the basic Cooper Hardtop.
The AWD Paceman S is 543lbs (20.3%) heavier than the Cooper S and puts less power to the ground thanks to the extra losses through the AWD system.
I don't get the appeal of the Countryman or Paceman .. they'd be awesome cars with appropriately upsized engines, IMO.